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For those of you disappointed in this score...remember...This is Bad Boys 3 lol....Have you heard Bad Boys 1+2? Cmon now...relax and take it for what it isI'd be surprised if we don't see some Wallfisch scores this year. He has been so prolific lately, would be weird to suddenly go an entire year without a single assignment.CD coming from LLL!Really liked this score, and the movie wasn't as bad as people claim as well... Benjamin Wallfisch does some very nice stuff, his horror scores are always on point like It 1 & 2, Annabelle: Creation, A Cure for Wellness...<br><br>I know he's gonna deliver it with Mortal Kombat even if the movie isn't that good. But kind of a bummer that his next scheduled project comes out in 2021 LOL'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessions
I like this music!The #balfeness !!!! Has outdone himself on Bad Boys for Life.<br>A nod to the last but brought it up to date.<br>This and 6 Underground has blown me away with Balfe’s musici can't understand, when someone is saying "it REMINDS of mw2" when those mentioned cues are completely re-used 1:1. it's identical, sometimes layered with mancinas themes. it doesn't just remind you of mw2 when lorne seriously uses the identical tracks or parts from mw2 -_-<br><br>@bayhem: then listen to it. i'm not a fan of lorne, but his work there is real fun and some real good action cues. with the themes of Zimmer, it's crazy that it's just a game. one of or maybe THE best work of lorne!Colleague of mine (a film score fan too) asked me which new Balfe score is better in my opinion - Bad Boys for Life or 6 Underground?<br><br>Honestly - and as much as I praised BB3 - I couldn't decide......<br><br><br>Both movies have a lot of songs, which is something I don't like. Look at Transformers. There are songs too but they don't overshadow the score. The score is still the star and that's why people flood Steve's Twitter with praise. Day after day. <br><br>But sadly for Lorne, his recent work in film WAS indeed overshadowed by the random songs. If they didn't rely on songs so much, I'm sure that 6 Underground would've been the crown jewel for Lorne. It's a big, big movie that begs for equally big and memorable score (though we can't really expect Transformners-syze score). <br><br>At the end of the day, Lorne did good on 6 Underground but it was just a small sign of what COULD have been.....Some of the action bits, yeah......
This right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...<br>....................<br><br><br>It's bigger than that.....<br><br>After all, this is a Bruckheimer production. His movies established Hans and the entire MV/RC sound. His movies are known for their awesome scores. Scores that are populrar with the ordinary viewers as well.  But 2008 onward, things changed.....Back in the 90's and early 2000's every single Bruckheimer film had a spectacular score. Powerful, melodic themes, cues that stayed with you, scores that attracted the attention of the average Joe. <br><br>Nowadays tho, we don't have that. Hell, when was the last time a (newer) action score from MV/RC-related composer was praised the way 'The Rock' was praised?<br><br>Lorne's Mission Impossible? No. Not even close. <br><br><br>Personally, I like what Lorne did with BB3, especially with the emotional cues. But put it next to Mancina's work. I mean it's not even a contest. The Mancina score is one memorable, melodic track after another. There's not a single boring track. Every track is a banger. <br><br>But the newer scores? They have two or three tracks that are  good and everything else is.......utterly forgettable.<br><br>I blame it on the lack of themes. Orchestra or not, more scores need to have actual themes.Some cues sound like Speed 2Guess I'm the only person around here who hasn't listened to the Modern Warfare 2 score. So I can't really have an opinion on this matter..... lolThis right here is my single biggest issue with Balfe as a composer. And with the recording sessions clips he posts it is truly a mystery. Tinfoil hat on I'd say he skimps on the budget and hires those musicians just for a couple hours to shoot those clips for PR and the actual score is all synth but that's a baseless claim of course lol...Everyone keep mentionning mw2 but those drums reminded me of...skylanders giants lol! Just listen to the track « Arena battle » and let me know
The clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
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Pan
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  1. Opening Overture (2:41)
    John Powell
  2. Air Raid - Office Raid (1:40)
    John Powell
  3. Kidnapped - Galleon Dog Fight (5:09)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  4. Floating - Neverland Ahoy! (2:29)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  5. Smells Like Teen Spirit (Perf. Cast From Pan) (2:11)
    John Powell, Matthew Margeson, Dario Marianelli
  6. Blitzkrieg Bop (Perf. Cast From Pan) (0:58)
    John Powell, Matthew Margeson, Dario Marianelli
  7. Murmurs Of Love And Death (3:27)
    John Powell
  8. Mine Escape (5:01)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  9. Inverted Galleon (1:56)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  10. Neverbirds (1:54)
    John Powell
  11. Something's Not Right (Perf. Lily Allen) (3:20)
    John Powell, Matthew Margeson
  12. Tramp Stamp (2:33)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  13. Origin Story (3:57)
    John Powell
  14. Pirates Vs Natives Vs Heroes Vs Chickens (4:21)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  15. Crocodiles And Mermaids (3:24)
    John Powell, Anthony B. Willis
  16. A Warrior's Fate (4:10)
    John Powell
  17. Flying Ship Fight (7:23)
    John Powell
  18. A Boy Who Could Fly (5:10)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  19. Transfiguration (2:18)
    John Powell
  20. Fetching The Boys (3:10)
    John Powell
  21. Little Soldier (Perf. Lily Allen) (2:37)
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Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 1 || 2017-11-16 20:35:30
John Powell is doing open messaging on Facebook for another hour or so. (He had to clarify - send him a message on his page, don't comment on his post. And no, he can't say a word about Han Solo....I already asked a general question. No surprise. :P)


James2017-11-17 00:42:20
Thanks!

Frank reply Replies: 13 || 2017-07-26 21:21:27
The official Star Wars website just confirmed that John Powell will score the untitled Han Solo movie! Since the day Ron Howard took over, I've anticipated Hans Zimmer to do it but John Powell is definitely next to him on the list. What an exciting news!


Anton2017-07-26 21:41:29
What shame Balfe didn't get the opportunity especially after Genius


Macejko2017-07-26 21:42:34
Edmund, be sure to tell us you're OK after all those cumshots.


Vivien2017-07-26 23:00:01
Star wars finally turns to the Zimmerian's style then !


...2017-07-26 23:24:28
This is great news! I really wanted Hans to do this but if not him then Powell is a great choice which I am sure Hans somehow was involved in.

I just hope this doesn't mean that Hans and Ron Howard won't work together in the future.


Hybrid Soldier2017-07-26 23:57:21
No way !

Hans was dining with Ron like 3 days before Ron was announced as director. But first, Powell was hired before Ron was in, and second I doubt Hans had 0,001 % interest in it, and probably rather pushed Ron towards JP !


vced2017-07-27 00:24:28
"Star wars finally turns to the Zimmerian's style then !"

John Powell isn't Hans Zimmer.

When has Zimmer (or Balfe for that matter) ever written a score that remotely sounds like Star Wars - who seriously thought that was going to happen LOL.

Much as I like Hans, this is a job for educated composers.



Vivien2017-07-27 00:46:09
It's RCP's style and it's pretty much different of William's LOL


Andrew 2017-07-27 01:09:20
Vced - balfes score to Home for example clearly shows he can write music like that .


James D.2017-07-27 01:34:57
Powell's reception as composer of the new SW has been excellently welcomed! Wonderful!

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@Andrew

Let's face it: SW is still a very distant star for Balfe. Not just for him, for many others. Even John Powell. Achieving that score is an event in his career.


Brent2017-07-27 07:59:41
@ James D

I don't disagree that Star Wars is the tip-of-the-iceberg when it comes to film music projects. However, you have to remember Powell has been in the game far longer than Giacchino has. I don't believe it has to do with how long you've been in the business, but if you're "sound" can carry the movie.


isildur2017-07-27 08:09:24
LOL @Macejko. I think Edmund is completely exhausted now. It'll take two to three days regain all the fluids he lost.


FORZA2017-07-27 20:37:18
Well this is... fuck YES


James2017-07-27 20:42:46
Yes. I know. But Giacchino has always worked with the Disney.John, on the other hand, is his equivalent in the Blue Sky and Dreamworks.

Aaron Christian reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-02 19:02:51
Pan is one of those killer John Powell scores I can listen to a million times and never get sick of it. Can't wait for HTTYD3!


Aaron Christian2017-03-02 19:04:02
And I'm excited to see what comes next for him. Some epic fantasy movie I hope. I also hope the rumors that he'll be done after HTTYD3 are completely false. The world needs you JOHN POWELL!!!


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-02 22:13:04
Where did you hear those rumors? I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of terrified...

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2016-07-30 14:49:27
Composers details !


Anonymous2016-07-30 16:21:34
I assume Dario Marionelli wrote those two songs he's credited for?


Hybrid Soldier2016-07-30 16:42:12
Margeson arranged them. He started working with Dario, then JP took over scoring. Matthew worked on many songs that didn't all end up in the film.


Edmund Meinerts2016-07-30 22:26:21
Well, I can't pretend it doesn't hurt a tiny bit to see that my favorite cue of 2015 ("A Boy Who Could Fly") isn't by Powell and Powell alone. But at the same time, I was kind of afraid it would be much worse considering time was probably pretty short on this score. If you look at it that way it's quite impressive just how little help Powell gets. And I imagine an additional composer on a Powell score is much closer to being just an orchestrator/arranger than, say, an additional composer on a Zimmer score (but that could just be my bias shining through...).

Hybrid, do you have details for any other Powell scores since 2010? Other than KFP2 (and Ice Age 4 now since you put up the complete score page) we know hardly anything about that period of his career.


Hybrid Soldier2016-07-30 22:40:48
Yes it's pretty much detailed, I'm catching up with all this, takes quite some time to handle each score lol...

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 5 || 2016-03-08 23:08:13
Wasn't sure where to post this, so I figured his most recent score would do.

John Powell's wife, Melinda Lerner, has died at age 41.

slipped isc. com/ 2016/03/ the-composers-wife -died-30-minutes-after-world -premiere/

What awful news. If she's been ill for a while (and it kind of sounds like it), that would put his comments recently about "spending more time with my son/family" in a very different light indeed.


Ds2016-03-09 00:20:26
Sad news. My thoughts go to John & his son.


Scorefan2016-03-09 02:29:50
I read the post 1 hour ago. I don't know if this is true, but it is, so sad. My condolences to John and his entire family.


Hybrid Soldier2016-03-09 08:38:20
It is, unfortunately, true...


Marco Rea2016-03-09 13:08:27
Very sad news. She took a picture for me with John Powell at the Pandamonium event in Northampton uk. She even passed my her Chinese hat to put on for the picture in which John gave her a very unimpressed (in a playful way) look. She was Very chirpy and smiley. My thoughts go to him his son and the family.


Berkian Warior 2016-03-10 23:07:06
This is so sad!! John and Oliver are in my Prayers.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2016-02-15 21:06:54
I felt like the Album started out a little bit slow, but by the time I got to track 16 (A Warrior's Fate), I was obsessed. I love the complexity of John Powell's music.
John Powell, Howard Shore, and John Williams are the only composers I can listen to over and over without getting bored. I listened to the How to train your Dragon 2 Soundtrack every other day for a whole year after it came out and I never got sick of it.


Powell Lover #12016-02-15 21:08:16
I so agree


Edmund Meinerts2016-02-16 10:09:07
Tracks 16-18 are, in my opinion, the best chunk of film music anybody wrote in 2015 (including John Williams). I've played those three tracks over and over again like nothing else. I agree the rest of the score doesn't quite hold up to it but there are some gems in there, I like the unique flair in "Kidnapped/Galleon Dog Fight" for example.


Ds2016-02-16 10:18:23
I agree, these 3 tracks (plus "Kidnapped - Galleon Dog Fight") are incredible. It's funny, "Pan", "The Martian" and "Steve Jobs" all came out pretty much at the same time and are probably my 3 favorite scores of 2015, still listen to those frequently.


Anonymous2016-02-17 19:20:53
I remember when I saw the trailer for Pan, and I said to my sister, 'boy, wouldn't it be great if John Powell could do the Soundtrack for that?'
So I checked on Wikipedia, and it said someone else was doing it.
A week later, while looking for John Powell Soundtracks on Amazon, i see Pan listed. I almost flipped.
I bought the Soundtrack the day it came out and loved every second of it. My favorite theme is the Fairy Kingdom Theme heard in 'A Warriors Fate'

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 7 || 2015-10-05 10:06:03
An excellent score indeed! A little chaotic and "overstuffed" at times, but I'll always take a score that's too complicated over one that's too simplistic, and I just love how much stuff Powell throws at you. "Flying Ship Fight" and "A Boy Who Could Fly" are some of the best action music of the year.


DeerLord2015-10-07 14:33:15
I agree. You don't find such scores a lot anymore these days.

I has it all: epic, fun, chaotic, quiet, bombastic, cover song gone cinematic, great diverse instrumentation, themes, ...

Aaaah. I am getting nostalgic here. How I miss the early 2000s.

This one can join my 'Best adventure score' playlist joining the likes of How To Train Your Dragon, Lair, Outcast, Killzone 2, Cutthroat Island, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, LOTR, Hobbit, ...


Edmund Meinerts2015-10-10 14:47:48
The more I listen to this one the more I like it. Powell always puts so much into his scores that you have to go over it multiple times and you'll still be catching things you didn't notice before. I think "A Boy Who Could Fly" might be my favorite cue of the year, period. Although if there was a longer version of "Neverland Ahoy!", I'd say that. Those 40 seconds between 1:15 and 1:55 are so beautiful, and so short... :/


Ds2015-10-10 21:24:24
Agree with Edmund, I listened only once and it was pretty heavy to digest... I will see the movie when it is released and then give the score a few more chances to grow on me. And I m 100% sure it will, in Powell I trust!!


Ds2015-10-20 22:13:01
I just saw the movie and now I am forced to recognize that this is an absolutely exquisite score. A pleasure from start to finish. Combined with Joe Wright's masterful visuals, it felt like heaven. Powell and Wright are amongst the most talented artists working in Hollywood, it's a shame the movie flopped so hard, it felt refreshing in so many ways. But yeah, probably too artsy for kids, too crazy for cynic grown ups... Sad, but at least it got made! :-)


Edmund Meinerts2015-10-20 22:59:58
I'm on the fence about whether to see the movie or not. It looks like a bit of a mess and hasn't gotten great reviews, but I want to support Powell and any big adventure movie in general that feels a bit different, which this does. I can kind of see it falling into the same category of unsuccessful adventure movies that didn't deserve to do as badly as they did and which have great scores, along with Lone Ranger and John Carter. Do you recommend it, Ds?

Also, I'm curious to know whether there is much score in the movie that didn't make the album. With an 111-minute running time and 60 minutes of score (plus ten or so of songs), it feels as though there could be...


Ds2015-10-21 13:21:14
Edmund, I didn't know the album release well enough to detect unreleased material in the movie. I think the main cues are all there, all the best moments I noticed during the movie are definitely present. In particular, "Flying Ship Fight" and "A Boy Who Could Fly" are masterfully used in the movie. Also, the music playing all over the end credits piece is utterly fantastic, and I think that one is not on the album (but I may be wrong).

I would definitely recommend it, yeah. It's a big, generous adventure movie. It's like a kid's dream, it's crazy and all over the place but it feels fresh, natural. It felt like the labour of authentic artists, rather than producers trying to get easy cash.

If you like Joe Wright's visual marvels, go see it because his signature style is all over the film. Every scene is wonderfully shot, a delight for the eyes. If you like John Powell's music (I know you do), go see it because his score is prominent throughout the whole movie and sounds amazing in a theatre. If you like adventure movies with a big heart, which require a lack of cynicism from their audience, go see it. If you're more attracted by modern sci-fi or superhero movies, maybe you should avoid it.


Edmund Meinerts2015-10-21 21:03:01
Ooh. I'm curious now about that end credits piece. I feel like the one thing missing from the Pan score is a cue that really just lets the themes breathe - was it anything like that? If so, it's criminal they left it off the album (who needs Lily Allen anyway?).

Maybe I really will go see this, after The Martian.

Leo reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-03 23:02:08
Great score, I'm not dissapointed. :D

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2015-09-21 10:08:50
Ooh, track times. Take out the songs (Blitzkrieg Bop...bleurgh) and it's still over an hour of score! An overture! And track 17 looks like it could be a particular treat... :)


Hybrid Soldier2015-09-21 10:10:19
The songs are arranged by Matthew Margeson (and one with John Powell)... ;)


Edmund Meinerts2015-09-21 10:24:10
Dang it, that means I'll actually have to listen to them. D:

Nathan Tarrant reply Replies: 2 || 2015-09-13 15:49:03
Simply can't wait for the score!!!

New sample...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeHMcQWG3k


Pablo Reyes2015-09-14 00:25:49
There's also another one here ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeDtfaozGko

Sounds great so far. Can't wait!


Anonymous2015-09-17 07:43:42
Watertower has this listed for October 2nd, not 9th. I wonder if the former date is tentative.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2015-09-13 15:28:19
What an AWFUL cover!!


Mike2015-09-13 16:43:37
Yeah. That one could have been better.


Anonymous2015-09-13 20:08:48
The teaser poster with the Jolly Roger flying above London looked better.

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