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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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Justin BurnettHarry Gregson-WilliamsHarry Gregson-WilliamsAl Clay
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Metal Gear Solid V (VG)
Label: Konami Digital Entertainment
Length: 157'26
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    CD1

  1. The Man Who Sold The World (5:42)
    Midge Ure, David Bowie
  2. V Has Come To (3:08)
    Ludvig Forssell
  3. You Can Call Me Ishmael (2:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  4. A Burning Escape (9:05)
    Justin Burnett, Ludvig Forssell
  5. Afghanistan's A Big Place (2:16)
    Ludvig Forssell
  6. Unforgiving Sands (2:47)
    Ludvig Forssell
  7. Kept You Waiting Huh? (3:25)
    Ludvig Forssell
  8. Parasites (3:20)
    Ludvig Forssell
  9. Allegiance Defined (2:56)
    Justin Burnett
  10. Exfiltrate The Hotzone (1:30)
    Ludvig Forssell
  11. I Am Skull Face (3:31)
    Ludvig Forssell
  12. Hals's Child Unchained (3:01)
    Justin Burnett
  13. Introduction To Africa (2:30)
    Ludvig Forssell
  14. Encounter On The Plains (1:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  15. A Factory Of Death (1:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  16. The Code Talker (4:07)
    Ludvig Forssell
  17. Metallic Archaea (2:08)
    Ludvig Forssell
  18. OKB Zero (2:10)
    Ludvig Forssell
  19. Angering Mantis (7:01)
    Justin Burnett
  20. Sahelanthropus Dominion (6:19)
    Justin Burnett
  21. Return (2:57)
    Ludvig Forssell
  22. Sins Of The Father (4:54)
    Donna Burke, Akihiro Honda, Ludvig Forssell
    CD2

  1. Quiet's Theme (2:53)
    Stefanie Joosten, Akihiro Honda, Ludvig Forssell
  2. Here's To You (3:09)
    Ennio Morricone, Joan Baez
  3. Not Your Kind Of People (4:59)
    Garbage
  4. Nuclear (4:59)
    Mike Oldfield
  5. Ground Zeroes (1:50)
    Ludvig Forssell
  6. Camp Omega (1:28)
    Ludvig Forssell
  7. Withered Peace (2:22)
    Ludvig Forssell
  8. The Girl's Gone (2:44)
    Ludvig Forssell
  9. Bloodstained Anthem (1:23)
    Ludvig Forssell
  10. She's Rigged (3:01)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  11. The Fall Of Mother Base (3:32)
    Harry Gregson-Williams
  12. Drop Off (1:19)
    Ludvig Forssell
  13. Beautiful Mirage - An Unexpected Visitor (4:18)
    Ludvig Forssell
  14. On The Trail (2:02)
    Ludvig Forssell
  15. Steel Embers (2:03)
    Daniel James
  16. Infected (4:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  17. Battling Armor (5:26)
    Justin Burnett
  18. Shining Lights, Even In Death (4:03)
    Ludvig Forssell
  19. Fortress (2:05)
    Ludvig Forssell
  20. Disarmament (1:37)
    Ludvig Forssell
  21. Swift Judgement (1:53)
    Ludvig Forssell
  22. Darkness Roars (3:31)
    Ludvig Forssell
  23. Beautiful Mirage - The Vision Fades (1:52)
    Ludvig Forssell
  24. Objective Complete (1:52)
    Ludvig Forssell
  25. African Battlecry (2:07)
    Ludvig Forssell
  26. Metal Gear Online (3:26)
    Daniel James
  27. A Phantom Pain (3:59)
    Ludvig Forssell
  28. Various Jingles (0:53)
    Ludvig Forssell
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Evan reply Replies: 3 || 2015-10-16 14:46:20
I recently bought this album, and I quite enjoy it.. But there's one big problem I have with it, along with most video game scores, it's the lack of thematic development. The biggest thing that frustrates me is that a composer will write a fantastic theme, only to have it pop up two or three times, or less. A lot of the assassin's creed scores suffer from this (aside from III and Unity). Ludvig composed an amazing main theme for Snake, first heard in "V Has Come To" and I was very excited on the first listen because I had been playing the game religiously in recognized the theme from the gameplay. As expected, the theme only appears a few times after the mentioned track. Its only appearances after track 2 are a brief moment in "You Can Call Me Ishmael", "Return", a very patriotic rendition in. "Shining Lights, Even In Death" and a final statement in the refrain during "Metal Gear Online. " regardless, I'd recommend for fans of Harry Gregson Williams's prior MSG scores. If anyone knows where I can locate some of the missing tracks, please share!


Anon2016-01-22 15:30:00
Even, you might want to check out the expanded soundtrack that was just put out digitally a couple of weeks ago.

I'll admit, I originally struggled a bit with this score, but with the recent release of that album, (which added over five hours of music), I decided to more thoroughly give it a go.

Its sound is fairly different compared to the past Metal Gear games, but after taking a while to adjust, I found it to be pretty brilliant. Thematically, I think it's actually very solid. The theme for Venom Snake is subtlety interwoven throughout most of the score. It just requires a bit of listening in some instances. It's definitely quoted a lot more than the tracks you pointed to.

Beyond the main theme though, there are some secondary themes that that really tighten things together, with the most illuminating being the numerous quotes of the Peacewalker theme from the past games that the first album mostly left out. It adds a ton of continuity that some people may find the first two disc set lacking.

I would definitely recommend though to anyone who might have found this to be a lukewarm listen to combine it with the second release, and take some time to digest the material. There's also supposed to be a third album coming out in March with the last few remaining tracks, so that should hopefully be pretty interesting too.


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-22 17:40:16
By great Annutseba, devourer of stars, ADDED FIVE HOURS OF MUSIC and they still want to put out a third release?

Jesus. Howard Shore would blush!


Anon2016-01-23 08:44:48
I was surprised by the release as well, given the length of the original album already put out, but some of the material on the extended set is absolutely essential if you're at all interested in the music here.

"We are Diamond Dogs"
"Regret and Acceptance"
"Paz is Dead"

Some of these tracks, after listening to them, left me absolutely flabbergasted that the first album didn't include them.

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2015-09-23 06:32:29
The cover dude looks like a cross-over between Ron Perlman and Tom Cruise lol


Felix2015-09-23 15:52:25
haha yes anonymous


Anonymous2015-10-16 15:28:29
Looked at the credits above. They specially thanked "Korean Food" on this one?

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