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See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.
I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!
Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.La La-Land is going to release the scorePowell adapted ideas from Williams (i think in one interview, he saids the new themes come from tunes by Williams)Music providen by additional composers, mean like, diferent version or re-arranged parts from a cue
Sorry about my lack of knowledge on this...but somebody can explain me what means "Additional Music"?.<br><br>I know somebody composed the score, sometimes the same person is the arranger or orchestrator (like ussually do John Williams), but "Additional Music"??? I'm lost like always...Anyone else think the credits are too complicated? Why not just have "Han Solo theme by John Williams" and "Score by John Powell"? I know that Powell directly quotes some Williams cues, but I dunno. That's an overly complicated cover, in my opinion.I saw it in Paris, amazing show, my favourite after Zimmer's oneI think that credit connected with John Williams's music from the original Star Wars movies. So, Herbert Spencer was the original orchstrator on the first three movies (New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi). More of that, he's been credited on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story as orchestrator. All other people usually works with John Williams, except Mark Graham, who's heading music preparation in almost every Hollywood movies now (Jo Ann Kane Music Services)I am increasingly seeing two separate credits for the orchestration role: one being the usual "Orchestrated By" and the other is this "Additional Orchestrations" credit. I can understand what one might mean by "additional music" but what differentiates these two orchestration roles from one another?
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Harry Gregson-WilliamsJustin BurnettHeitor PereiraStephen Barton
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Man On Fire (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 121'29
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  1. Main Titles - Opening Kidnap (3:39)
  2. El Paso Taxi (0:53)
  3. Prelude In B Minor (2:06)
  4. Creasy Settles In (0:34)
  5. Goodnight Creasy Bear (2:33)
  6. Pita Gets In The Back Seat (1:22)
  7. Hallucinations (1:08)
  8. Clair De Lune (0:38)
  9. Creasy Calls Rayburn (1:46)
  10. Bonding With Pita (0:51)
  11. Swim Meet - More Bonding (1:47)
  12. Suspicious Car - Shootout - Kidnap (3:11)
  13. A Sad Household (0:58)
  14. Rayburn Checks On Creasy (0:44)
  15. The Voice Makes His First Call (1:28)
  16. Instructions For The Drop - Ambush (2:51)
  17. The Voice Makes His Second Call (1:33)
  18. Nocturne N°4 In F (1:36)
  19. Revisiting Crime Scene (0:57)
  20. You're Talking About All Out War (1:32)
  21. Creasy Finds Pita's Diary (1:52)
  22. Mom's Breakdown (0:44)
  23. Shotgun To The Temple (1:07)
  24. Interrogation Overlays (2:06)
  25. Off To The Next Life (1:04)
  26. The Rave (4:25)
  27. Blowing Up The Club (1:04)
  28. Another Clue - Detective Fuentes (0:51)
  29. Creasy's Art Is Death (0:56)
  30. Walking Into Town (0:24)
  31. Creasy's Rocket Launcher (2:12)
  32. Grabbing Fuentes From Car (0:54)
  33. Bomb In Your Ass Goes Off In Five Minutes (4:13)
  34. Dead Kalfus - Fax Clue (2:15)
  35. Confronting Pita's Parents (5:24)
  36. Some Info On The Voice (3:02)
  37. Break-In (0:26)
  38. Kicking Down The Door (2:12)
  39. I Want To Talk To Him (2:48)
  40. Her Life For Yours (5:09)
  41. Bridge Reunion - Going Home (9:36)
  42. Una Palabra - Carlos Varela (1:14)
  43. Overlay Suite (0:56)
  44. Angel Vengador - Gabriel Gonzalez (1:22)
  45. Man On Fire (Remix) - Hybrid (3:41)
  46. Main Titles - Opening Kidnap (Alternate) (3:07)
  47. El Paso Taxi (Alternate) (1:03)
  48. Pita Gets In The Back Seat (Alternate) (1:49)
  49. Rayburn Checks On Creasy (Alternate) (0:44)
  50. Instructions For The Drop - Ambush (Alternate) (3:01)
  51. Revisiting Crime Scene (Alternate) (0:57)
  52. Shotgun To The Temple (Alternate) (1:58)
  53. Dead Kalfus - Fax Clue (Alternate) (2:07)
  54. Confronting Pita's Parents (Alternate) (5:22)
  55. Bridge Reunion - Going Home (Alternate) (9:37)
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CalendarMan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-06 11:17:38
When will this tracklist be leaked?

sam reply Replies: 10 || 2017-09-29 15:52:17
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JR2017-09-29 16:42:03
IT has been released some week ago :p


dannyXXL2017-09-29 22:46:19
@JR: haha good one x) but we need this one here to be available for everybody. but unfortunately there isn't much of an interest for this one, or am i understanding it wrong?

McNulty reply Replies: 2 || 2016-09-09 12:26:23
finally having my hands on this. so much better listening experience than the score release.


Anonymous2016-09-09 17:50:04
Prove it then. What's the length without the alternates?


roccodocco2017-08-07 09:50:33
@mcnulty: any chance to put at least some tracks on youtube? :(

Creasy reply Replies: 1 || 2016-04-20 12:41:58
Hybrid, is it possible you can put the cue "Goodnight Creasy Bear" to hear here? Would be so nice :)


Creasy2016-07-14 20:07:43
please...? :(

Hero reply Replies: 0 || 2016-04-05 15:12:46
so, has this one leaked yet?

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2015-10-24 08:19:39
"El Pasi Taxi"?! LOL it's "El Paso* Taxi"

clearly the guy who made this track list has not seen the movie


Edmund Meinerts2015-10-24 09:37:27
That, and he has no knowledge whatsoever of Texan geography.

madmartigan reply Replies: 1 || 2015-10-23 09:51:06
Excellent !!! I want this one, it's one of my favorite Gregson Williams's score !
Thanks Hybrid for this track list


rockhound2015-10-23 10:59:31
I love this score. One of Harrys best. and also a great cd cover.

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