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Yeah, 30-ish seconds into Do You Bleed?"Reminiscent Therapy" is amazing in the way it incorporates a lot of Williams' classic stuff making it feel very natural and organic, like it's part Powell's themes, like he does with "The Adentures of Han".<br><br>This is a really great scoreHe is the chosen one, the one who will bring balance to the film music world...Thats just 'do you bleed?' with a small insert?Haha, It's as the prophecy foretold.
John Powell, the great uniter of film music fans@MrZimmerFan<br><br>I actually like Rogue One, and I do understand why it leans so heavily on the original themes. Here the themes are incorporated more as fan service, but Powell is able to do wonders with interpolating them with his material. <br><br>And something I forgot to mention, this score reminds me so much of Pan in the action sequences. The percussion and brass writing is great lolim surprised how Powell uses his ANTZ percussion in this!<br><br>The track Train Heist, Into The Maw is good example of it.<br><br>This is the only score that will please the gang at JW and HZ alike.When JWFan and HZ.com are discussing the same score....'but not as heavily as Rogue One'<br><br>Because Rogue One have conections with certain aspects or characters from the OT?<br><br>An here you have a track with three themes (or cues) with no conections with the OT, Rogue One have more sense... but the score is fricking awesome :)
So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, it’s basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poe’s theme from Force Awakens.Let’s just say “Reminiscience Therapy”.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that I’m guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally I’ve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of “Time” I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
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Man On A Ledge (Complete Score)
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Length: 86'13
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  1. The Roosevelt Hotel (2:14)
    Henry Jackman
  2. Small Step For Man (1:48)
    Henry Jackman
  3. 25-Year Sentence (1:27)
    Henry Jackman
  4. The Funeral (2:47)
    Henry Jackman
  5. The Gataway (2:55)
    Henry Jackman
  6. Man On A Ledge (2:30)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Little Miss Grim Reaper (2:29)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  8. My Scene, My Room (1:56)
    Henry Jackman, Stephen Hilton
  9. Mike Digs Deeper (0:36)
    Henry Jackman
  10. Thanks For The Watch (0:28)
    Henry Jackman
  11. Not A Normal Suicide (1:03)
    Henry Jackman
  12. Enter Joey & Angie (1:01)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  13. Lydia's Lamentations (1:08)
    Henry Jackman
  14. Shaky Leg (0:47)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  15. A Very Ballsy Diversion (2:50)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  16. Get In The Hole (1:17)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  17. Have A Puff (2:02)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  18. Elevator Munching (2:16)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  19. Danger Allsorts (2:03)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  20. Camera Gibbon - Wire Tappin' (3:59)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  21. Make Files (0:51)
    Henry Jackman
  22. The Diamond Thief (1:57)
    Henry Jackman, Dominic Lewis
  23. Make It Rain (5:06)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  24. Tactical Threats (2:29)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  25. Mid-Film Transition (0:52)
    Henry Jackman
  26. Trust Me (1:00)
    Henry Jackman, Stephen Hilton
  27. Be Mad In The Vent (1:38)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  28. Ledge Burger (1:50)
    Henry Jackman
  29. Trust Your Instincts (4:28)
    Henry Jackman, Stephen Hilton
  30. A Girl's Best Friend (3:08)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson, Dominic Lewis
  31. Ain't In The Vault (1:46)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  32. Monarch Stowage (2:35)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  33. Tactical Ambush (3:25)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
  34. Good Cop Bad Cop (4:44)
    Henry Jackman
  35. Standoff On The Roof (4:10)
    Henry Jackman
  36. Standdown On The Street (1:21)
    Henry Jackman
  37. Dog Day Afternoon (1:05)
    Henry Jackman
  38. A Family Heirloom (0:48)
    Henry Jackman
  39. Make It Rain (Alternate) (5:05)
    Henry Jackman, Matthew Margeson
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Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2017-10-11 14:47:18
In my opinion, one of Jackman's most underrated and intense scores. It's also one of those scores that fits the movie perfectly. Doesn't feel out of place, it's not over-the-top. Certain cues are definitely influenced by Harry Gregson-Williams. Anyway, I definitely recommend it.

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