Soundtrack Produced by Hans Zimmer & Junkie XL Soundtrack Co-Produced by Steve Mazzaro & Alan Meyerson
Additional Music by Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski & Benjamin Wallfisch
Music Editor: Melissa Muik Score Wrangler: Bob Badami Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky Music Conducted by Nick Glennie-Smith & Junkie XL Assistant Music Editor: Navin Seus Technical Score Engineers: Chuck Choi & Stephanie McNally Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry Sampling Team: Tauress Habib, Raul Vega & Drew Jordan Supervising Orchestrator: Bruce Fowler Additional Orchestrators: Walt Fowler, Yvonne S. Moriarty, Carl Rydlund & Kevin Kaska Orchestra Contractor: Peter Rotter Score Recorded & Mixed by Alan Meyerson Additional Engineering by Slamm Andrews Score Mix Assistant: John Witt Chapman
Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Shalini Singh Assistant to Hans Zimmer: Cynthia Park Technical Assistants: Jacqueline Friedberg, Julian Pastorelli, Max Sandler & Lauren Bousfield Technical Assistants to Junkie XL: Stephen Perone, Emad Borjian & Aljoscha Christenhuss Score Mixed at Remote Control Productions, Santa Monica, CA
Album Mastered by Nathaniel Kunkel & Alan Meyerson
Executive Album Producers: Zack Snyder, Deborah Snyder & Charles Roven Executives in Charge of Music for Warner Bros. Pictures: Paul Broucek & Darren Higman Executive in Charge of Music for WaterTower Music: Jason Linn Art Direction & Soundtrack Coordination: Sandeep Sriram Music Business Affairs Executives: Lisa Margolis & Ray Gonzalez
Featured Musicians: Electric Cello: Tina Guo Solo Violin: Ben Powell Drum Orchestra: Curt Bisquera, Bernie Dresel, Sheila E, Peter Erskine, Josh Freese, Jim Keltner, Toss Panos, John "JR" Robinson & Satnam Singh Ramgotra Vocalists: Hila Plitmann, Dominic Lewis & Tori Letzler Synth Programming: Hans Zimmer Score Recorded at The Eastwood Scoring Stage, Warner Bros., Burbank CA & The Streisand Scoring Stage, Sony, Culver City CA
Music Preparation: Booker White ProTools Operators: Kevin Globerman & Larry Mah
Choir: The Eric Whitacre Singers Choirmaster: Eric Whitacre Choir Orchestrated by Eric Whitacre & Gavin Greenaway Choir Conducted by Gavin Greenaway Choir Contractor: Meg Davies, Music Productions Ltd Choir Recorded by Geoff Foster ProTools Operator for Choir: Chris Barrett Assistant Engineer for Choir: Laurence Anslow UK Music Preparation: Jill Streater Choir Recorded at Lyndhurst Hall, Air Studios, London
We would like to thank: Zack Snyder, Wesley Coller, David S. Goyer, Geoff Johns, Curt Kanemoto, Benjamin Melniker, Bruce Moriarty, Christopher Nolan, Charles Roven, Deborah Snyder, Emma Thomas, Michael Uslan, Gregor Wilson, David Brenner, Andrea Wertheim, Paul Broucek, Darren Higman, Lisa Margolis, Ny Lee, Kari Miazek, Joseph Billé, Jason Linn, Sandeep Sriram, Genevieve Morris, Joe Kara, Rocco Carrozza, Kevin Kertes, Peter Axelrad, Robert Zick, Sue Kroll, Blair Rich, John Stanford, Ariadne Chucholowski, Simon McIlroy, Kolette Kleber, John Althouse, Raymond Walden, Jaimie Roberts, Mark Cavell, John F.X. Walsh, Eric John Matthies, Ross Garfield, Zak St John, Urs Heckmann, Candace Carlo, Jillian Abood, Bebe Lerner, Rae Murillo & the ID Team, Michiel Groeneveld, Amos Newman, Stephen Perone, Emad Borjian, Aljoscha Christenhuss, Christian Wenger, Seth Waldmann, Forest Christenson, Alfredo Pasquel, Ryan Ouchida, Edith Mudge, Chris Strong, Stéphane Humez, Maxime Marion, Pierre Futsch, Nicolas Cabarrou, Krisztina Lukácsi, Saskia & Julian, Ben & Elly, Zoë, Jake, Max & Annabel
Release date : 03/18/2016
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Some more, probably still a bunch missing but it gives an idea...
BAT LIGHT HZ SM BRANDING HZ JXL AK BULLET HZ AK BW CAPITAL MONTAGE HZ BW CHASE HZ JXL AK DAWN OF JUSTICE HZ SM DAY OF THE DEAD HZ DEVELOPING STORY HZ SM DO YOU BLEED HZ SM DO YOU BLEED (CON’T) HZ SM DREAMS HZ JXL SM END CREDITS 2 HZ SM END CREDITS 3 HZ JXL AK END CREDITS 4 HZ JXL AK END CREDITS 5 HZ BW END CREDITS 6 HZ EVERYTHING’S CHANGED HZ SM FALLING HZ SM FUNDRAISER INVITATION HZ SM HALF A MAN HZ SM HERO FIGHT HZ JXL HERO FIGHT (CON’T) HZ JXL HERO’S PARK HZ SM KIDNAPPING HZ BW MAIN TITLES PT 1 HZ MAIN TITLES PT 2 HZ SM MEN ARE STILL GOOD HZ JXL AK METROPOLIS LIBRARY FUNDRAISER HZ SM BW MONUMENT VENDALISM HZ SM MY BLOOD HZ SM OUR HERO HZ SM OUR HERO (CON’T) HZ SM OUT OF TIME HZ SM OW MY BALLS HZ SM OW MY BALLS (CON’T) HZ SM PAST MEMORIES HZ SM PHOTOGRAPH HZ AK POST APOCALYPSE HZ AK PREPARATION MONTAGE HZ JXL AK PROBLEMS UP HERE HZ JXL QUAKER, STEAK & LUBE HZ SM RED CAPES ARE COMING HZ BW ROOFTOP (CON’T) HZ BW ROOFTOP HZ BW THE DESERT HZ AK THE DESERT (CON’T) HZ AK THE GIRL HZ SM THE GIRL (CON’T) HZ SM THE RETURN HZ SM THE WARDEN HZ SM THE WHITE PORTUGUESE HZ SM THUG FIGHT HZ JXL AK TICK TOCK HZ SM TIME IS RUNNING OUT HZ SM TIME IS RUNNING OUT (CON’T) HZ SM TOWER FALLS HZ JXL TRANSFER COMPLETE HZ SM BW TUESDAY HZ WISHLIST HZ BW WRECKAGE HZ AK
And thanks for the credits!
so junkie xl only did 12 cues if i counted correctly ... huh. lol. SM and AK have more credits than him.
Even less than that. On the cue Dreams he's credited technically for 1% of the track, where a sample of his World Engine sound from MOS is used... lol
Heh, maybe we should be glad Zimmer handled the Batman theme... His "BAHM....BAHM BAHM BAHM BAHHHHHHHM" may sound a bit dated, but if Junkie XL's idea would have been some screechy thing, I think we lucked out.
Hybrid, don't know if you can answer or even know about but, the track Dawn of Justice here, what track is that in the film?
And for that matter: Quaker, Steak, and Lube/Ow My Balls 0.0
It was actually a surprise for me that Zimmer did most of the Batman theme, it always sounded to me like a JXL-one.
I don't know about Dawn of Justice...
And HZ didn't do "most" of the Batman theme... He did all of the Batman theme lol...
Huh, interesting. I'm gonna say it's the part of Men Are Still Good before the end credits. Only place I can place it with that title
No, Men Are Still Good is.... Men Are Still Good. :P I have to say, the Batman theme does sound quite Zimmerish to me, EXCEPT the loud self-important choir stuff at the end. I never thought Zimmer would write stuff like that for Batman.
Here's a question: are there any other examples of a composer doing two different versions of the same character?
Off the top of my head...David Arnold wrote scores for both the Daniel Craig and Pierce Brosnan Bonds; ditto John Barry with Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton. Oh, and Alan Menken is writing music for the upcoming Beauty and the Beast "remake" (which looks more like a shot-for-shot recreation of the original Disney animateed movie in live-action (and craptons of CGI), but whatever).
Could be wrong but I think the track Dawn of Justice might be the trailer music demo Hans did for the comic-con trailer. Otherwise I really can't place it with any scene...
These are some of the unreleased cues/music? Part of the complete score?
Hybrid, out of curiosity, do you ever get a chance to listen to these recording sessions?
You obviously have some connections to Zimmer and his crew, so I'm wondering if you maybe have access to some of this stuff?
Thanks as always for the inside news ;) Im surprised that JXL does not appear that much on these credits given he is credited co-composer.
Little correction from ASCAP update, I forgot a cue :
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE HZ SM
And actually Problems Up Here was a mistake, there's no cue in the cuesheet called like that... :P
okay, based on all the insider info provided by Hybrid, i am seriously thinking we were all too harsh on JXL. i didn't even know his work well. just read what others were saying.
i am happy to know he did the work with HZ on Black and Blue and not on Do You Bleed.
Do we have absolute confirmation that Junkie XL didn't handle the dramatic choir arrangement at the end of the Batman suite? 2 reasons for asking: 1. that doesn't strike me as something Zimmer would do himself for a character like this; 2. Junkie XL is credited on Do You Bleed, Their War Here, and Men Are Still Good, and conveniently enough, the loud dramatic choir stuff shows up in all of those.
am i reading something wrong? Do you Bleed is HZ and SM.
i personally think the choir thing has a HZ touch. ever since Lion King, i can name many titles with choirs. now i haven't heard it be so dramatic, except for Chappie. Chappie is pretty close.
let's say both JXL and HZ and SM and AK did it : ) they all deserve credit.
Meant the album Do You Bleed... which is "Chase - HZ, JXL, AK"
Hi Hybrid, I recall the complete MOS score streaming on this site at some point. What was the nature of that release? Was is a leak or did you secure some official permission for that?
Question: would it be possible to listen to these unreleased tracks privately through ASCAP or BMI?
I know you need a license to obtain and publicly play music but where would private listening stand with that? Forgive me for not knowing how it works, I just wanted some clarification
Instead of asking when the complete score might be leaked, I'm going to ask, why Hans, won't release the complete score himself. So why doesn't he release the complete score after the film's dvd release? I know he can't release it because of the studio, and he can't officially release it even afterwards, but why? It's his music.
I love Hans Zimmer, but there are only a two reasons why he won't release the score. Either he can't because of the studio owns the rights (which is bullshit), and he won't release because he feels the need not to. Which is also bullshit. If he is aloud to release it, but for some odd reason he won't and someone has to leak, I don't understand. I will happily pay 100 dollars for a complete score. Even 200. I mean c'mon, it's Hans Zimmer. I'm sorry for the rant, I just don't understand either why he won't release his complete scores, or why the studios won;t let him because of money.
It's all legal mumbo-jumbo.
The scores do eventually leak, which is better than nothing.
One day he might push WB or Columbia to do a big release of something like the Batman trilogy, the POTC trilogy, or the Dan Brown trilogy (TDVC, A&D, Inferno)
It's not bullshit. Composing for film is work-for-hire; they hire you to provide a product, you do, and that product is then theirs to do whatever the hell they want with. The composer no longer has a say, legally speaking. Maybe they get royalties, maybe not. So no, it's not Zimmer's call to release or not release the complete score (assuming that he would do it, which to be honest doesn't seem like him anyway). It's the studio's - and the market just isn't really big enough for that sort of thing to be profitable, I bet.
I'm hoping that one day complete score releases become the norm from the beginning, rather than collecting dust for a decade or two before some specialty label like La-La Land rediscovers it. Or, better yet, a double release: a physical album that's been edited for good listening, and a complete score, perhaps released only digitally if costs make that necessary. A few years ago the Oblivion score did that exact thing really well, for example, and I'm disappointed that we haven't seen more of it. But the reality is that most people probably prefer a nicely edited single-disk album to a lengthy complete score where the highlights are a lot further apart.
And look, at the end of the day Zimmer has much bigger priorities than leaking out scores. With all the projects he continually is working on, I highly doubt he spends much time thinking about his past scores. Finish one and move on.....
It is great when composers do put out unreleased music on their sites (Zanelli, Balfe, Beltrami), but the reality is that Zimmer is far too busy to be thinking of things like this.
If anyone is to blame, it's the labels that put out all of these redundant "extended editions" of scores like TDKR or BvS. That's why albums like Sherlock Holmes and KFP2 have never bothered me; they may not be complete but they sure as hell are great presentations of the music within the film; all of the highlights covered.
Jack, HZ doesn't own the score once he writes it and gets paid for it. The studio owns everything. If they hire Edmund to write the script, it's now theirs and no longer his. Yes, he wrote it - but he doesn't own the right to it.
Same thing with the score. HZ writes it, but he doesn't own it. It's not his anymore, it's the studios'. They own EVERYTHING. The sets, the costumes, the props, the script, the score - all of it.
howard shore, mark isham and klaus badelt are able to release some of their scores over their own label, even complete ones. why is this possible?
Because those composers probably make a point of it to retain release rights to the music in their contracts. Also, Isham, Badelt and everything Shore writes that isn't based on Tolkien tends to be for much, much smaller-scale movies than what Zimmer works on, so maybe they're a bit more lenient than the big big studios.
you can listen on badelts website to Pirates 1, The Time Machine, 16 Blocks, TMNT etc. all kind of big studio movies and all of them complete or expanded. the point is, it is possible. at least in some cases. but the first thing you always have to do is ....try it.
He has all those up?? I didn't actually know that. I thought it was just all those random French movies he used to do (and these days he doesn't even do those :/ ). Might have to go check that out, thanks.
very welcome. klaus has alot of good stuff uploaded. also his smaller stuff and dtv films.
Also, with the popularity of the isolated scores/5.1 bonus tracks on dvd's/blu-ray's like with Inception, Lotr, Oblivion etc. Why won't they at least continue this trend and release the most popular tracks or an isolated score as extra's with the dvd's/blu-ray's.. Hans always talks about the surround experience in his studio and how he wants people to experience the same at their home (the reason he releases those apps with dts headphone-x, which is only stereo-surround) yet he can't get them to release the real surround tracks on at least 1 format.
It's all about the money. We only get certain isolated scores for certain films because not every studio wants to do it. Like I said, they own the music. It's theirs. They keep it locked up tight and wait until years down the line so they can release via La-La Land or Intrada. I guess we got lucky Universal was kind enough to give us Oblivion.
As far as Hans releasing the music in 5.1 via the apps, I think he does it for 2 reasons:
1.) To stay up to date with today's technology. Everything is done digitally now and he's hip by being up to date, releasing music via an app.
2.) Because he knows the studio won't do an isolated score (there has NEVER been an HZ iso score as far as I know), so he at least releases it in 5.1 to somewhat please the fans.
Any news on Balfe's new score being released for War On Evertone ?heard some bits on his Twitter ????
It won't have an OST release. Best thing will be Lorne putting cues on his site or Youtube I think...
Thank for the feedback. Sucks that Zimmer owns none of his own work. I just think the studio should release complete scores. But they're all about the money. Igues it's just how it works nowadays
Remember, it's not just HZ - it's every composer. They don't own the music they write, the screenwriters don't own the scripts they write.
I've got my hopes up that Zimmer will release the complete score at some point, but the overwhelming question for everyone is, "When?" It took two years for him to officially release the complete score for Man of Steel, and for many people that shows we'll have to wait for some time until BvS's complete score is released.
Look at it like this - Zimmer released the complete score for The Dark Knight Rises towards the end of 2012, within several months of the film's release in July. I don't know why the score was released so soon - perhaps it was due to popular demand, or maybe Zimmer had more time to organize and release it, which could be why the MoS complete score took so long to come out.
If anyone has any thoughts on this, feel free to share them. This has been on my mind lately and I've had my fingers crossed for the complete score to be released in the near future.
Hz doesn't release any complete scores.
Hans didn't release any complete score (beside The Lion King, took him 20 years lol).
And if you ask me, maybe he will get to this in the future, but not anytime soon...
You're an idiot. HZ didn't release the complete scores. Certain people go have contacts within the industry sell them to people online. It's called the black market.
It has nothing to do with the age or when a film is released. TDKR was leaked in October of 2012, but it had been passed around long before then. Inside people had it. October is just when someone decided to leak it to the public. The same goes with MOS.
That down-talking wasn't necessary. Not everyone knows those facts you stated. So leave and come back when you learn some manners.
Welcome to the internet Cameron
Yeah, I know. But I gotta try.
I didn't appreciate the down-talking either. Obviously there's people here like you who know much more about this than I do, which is great, but understand that there's people like me who don't know much about how the music gets out.
Anyhow, thanks for filling me in on this. Is there anyone hanging around this website that has ties with Zimmer or his crew?
@LS100, Hybrid Soldier, above, regularly corresponds with Hans and RCP people.
Don't expect to get a complete score from him, though. If I recall, he's never leaked anything in the past.
After watching the movie a couple of times, I'm still having a hard time putting the tracks in chronological order. Can anybody help out with that??
Here's a note i have from April 3rd
1. A Beautiful Lie (first 10 seconds can probably be placed after "their war here") 2. Their War Here 3. Blood of my blood 4. Vigilante (0:00-1:00 is Lois in her apartment; 1:00-end is the Batman scene) 5. The Red Capes Are Coming (need to split for senator finch scene later on) 6. There were hunters (0:00-0:28 Bruce "man-bat" nightmare wake) 7. May I Help You, Mr. Wayne? (Party scene) 8. Day of the dead (intro is when superman talks to his mom before the court scene; 1:07ish-end is the rescue montage) 9. Must There Be A Superman? (Knightmare scene) 10. New Rules (second half sounds a lot like vigilante so idk where the second half would go exactly) 11. Do You Bleed? 12. There were hunters (0:28-end or 1:12-end.. I'm not entirely sure because 0:28-1:12 is the MoS piano) 13. Problems Up Here 14. Black and Blue 15. Fight Night 16. Tuesday 17. Is She With You? 18. This Is My World 19. Men Are Still Good (0:00-4:30) End Credits: 20. Rendition of "1m01f The Launch" from MoS Complete Score 21. End of Beautiful Lie 22. Some of Bruce's theme 23. Do You Bleed? (End part) 24. The Red Capes Are Coming (part of) 25. Beautiful Lie (part of)
Awesome! Thank you. I love how generous these HZ/Junkie XL official releases are getting recently, in terms of content.
Awesome work, thanks!
I'm not a fan from bootleg unnoficial releases, but I would love one of this score. The OST Special Edition is indeed very generous, but there's two cues I would love to get. The first one is the music that plays on the first part of the Capitol scene, before Superman arrives - when he lands among the protesters, the cue that plays is the final part of Day of the Dead (probably tracked from the earlier montage scene), but it fits incredibly well on the scene.
The other one is the first part of the End Credits, which I'm not entirely sure if it is tracked from the Man of Steel score. Anyway, it is a nice, dramatic rendition of the Launch theme.
Does anyone know who is composing Wonder Woman? They used Hans theme in the new trailer, which was pretty sweet!
It's actually Tina Guo. There's a featurette on YouTube and you see her playing it
@ei18 on imdb is nothing listed
@Anonymous he mean who compose the Wonder Woman Movie
I think Tom Holkenborg will do it, maybe with Hans together again, that would be great :)
I do not think that "playing it" and "composing it" are the same thing. btw i think WW theme comes from Hans
All the themes are originally written by Hans here. Hybrid said that below.
True. But every video I've seen of HZ and co performing an RCP score, HZ is always doing his parts. She is listed as "musician" in the details and she is seen playing it but yeah that doesn't mean she wrote it
This just gives me hope that the theme will actually be present in the movie
I have to admit that Zimmer's new Batman theme has really grown on me since we first heard it. I used to hate the percussion pounding and the massive choir, but now that I've listened to it more, the main tune is really cool. It sounds like an intentional homage to the themes from the 80's/90's film series (kinda like the one second of the Dark Knight suite in TDK) and even with the "cheesy" percussion and choir, it still epitomizes Batman. Perhaps even more than his 2-note stuff with Nolan.
And, the theme actually has a hummable tune! It isn't just 2 or 3 notes repeated! So between the Batfleck theme's "tune" part and the TASM 2 fanfare, Zimmer actually HAS written 2 more "traditional" superhero themes. :)
Hybrid, are you able to comment on this? We may have complete credits for the Batman Suite, based on an interview Hans and Junkie gave with Warner Bros. Zimmer said:
--he spent 8 weeks working on the Batman theme --he needed a second opinion but Junkie was away working on Mad Max, so he gave it to Steve Mazzaro "clarified" Hans' work a bit --Junkie XL returned from Mad Max and they gave it to him to finish off
So can we safely say that "The Batman Suite" = Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Junkie XL?
First rule, you can't trust official interviews ! lol
Hahaha, I was going to add, "After what you say about the Po Tune, I'm cautious here," but decided against it. lol.
No I mean seriously I'm not just saying this based on the cuesheet, I talked with enough people who worked on the score ! lol
MacArthur, if you're lurking, I hope you get the satisfaction of reading what Hybrid has been saying about BvS.... In this case, "most of it was Zimmer" appears to be right! :P
Damn, Mike, don't summon that asshole :D
surely Junkie XL did something on the Batman theme? it's even on his page here...
I'm gonna correct that...
"Tower Falls" seems appropriate for JXL...what do you think? ;)
Hey btw Mike how do I get in touch with you ?
You should drop an email to Nicolas (in the About section) and just tell him to transfer to me. :)
I'm still praying that's not true, Mike. The Dark Tower deserves so much better than Junkie XL... :(
Don't worry, Edmund, I was referring to "Tower Falls," aka the main part of "Their War Here," as being a suitable replacement cue to put on Junkie XL's page, since he obviously did that cue.
And okay, Hybrid, I'll do that when I get the chance. :)
MAIN TITLES (PT 1) => HZ MAIN TITLES (PT 2) => HZ SM TOWER FALLS => HZ JXL GIRL => HZ SM WRECKAGE => HZ AK DESERT => HZ AK BRANDING => HZ JXL AK BULLET => HZ AK BW EVERYTHING'S CHANGED => HZ SM WISHLIST => HZ BW DREAMS => HZ JXL SM FUNDRAISER INVITATION => HZ SM METROPOLIS LIBRARY FUNDRAISER => HZ SM BW DAY OF THE DEAD => HZ POST APOCALYPSE => HZ AK CHASE => HZ JXL AK DO YOU BLEED => HZ SM PREPARATION MONTAGE => HZ JXL AK PHOTOGRAPH => HZ AK ROOFTOP => HZ BW PROBLEMS UP HERE => HZ JXL HERO FIGHT => HZ JXL THUG FIGHT => HZ JXL AK TIME IS RUNNING OUT => HZ SM TUESDAY => HZ OUR HERO => HZ SM MEN ARE STILL GOOD => HZ JXL AK
Still not the full thing but we're slowly getting there... lol
Cool! Somehow I was right about all the solo HZ cues (Beautiful Lie, Day of the Dead, Tuesday). :P Funny how much less Junkie XL ended up doing than you might expect. I thought his name would be on most cues before you started sharing credits, but it's missing from several of them.
Is Red Capes are Coming a suite or 2 cues edited together?
If I recall correctly, it's 2 cues, one as Luthor enters the Kryptonian ship wreckage, the other as he discusses the painting to the Senator. (Is one of those cues "Wreckage," above?)
No Wreckage is at the beginning, when they find the Kryptonite out of the World Engine wreck... I think...
If you try to make it match with the OST =>
BEAUTIFUL LIE => MAIN TITLES 1 (HZ) THEIR WAR HERE => MAIN TITLES 2 (HZ SM) + TOWER FALLS (HZ JXL) THE RED CAPES ARE COMING => WISHLIST (HZ BW) + ? DAY OF THE DEAD => DAY OF THE DEAD (HZ) MUST THERE BE A SUPERMAN => POST APOCALYPSE (HZ AK) NEW RULES => EVERYTHING'S CHANGED (HZ SM) + BRANDING (HZ JXL AK) DO YOU BLEED => CHASE (HZ JXL AK) PROBLEMS UP HERE => ROOFTOP (HZ BW) ?? + PROBLEMS UP HERE (HZ JXL) BLACK AND BLUE => HERO FIGHT (HZ JXL) TUESDAY => TUESDAY (HZ) IS SHE WITH YOU => ?? (But it's HZ lol) THIS IS MY WORLD => ?? (Maybe it's OUR HERO (HZ SM) MEN ARE STILL GOOD => MEN ARE STILL GOOD (HZ JXL AK) THE BATMAN SUITE => definitely some BATMAN SUITE (HZ)
BLOOD OF MY BLOOD => DESERT (HZ AK) VIGILANTE => BULLET (HZ AK BW) + BRANDING (HZ JXL AK) MAY I HELP YOU, MR WAYNE => METROPOLIS LIBRARY FUNDRAISER (HZ SM BW) THEY WERE HUNTERS => ?? (Ending part of DREAMS ?) + ?? FIGHT NIGHT => THUG FIGHT (HZ JXL AK)
Something like that... :P
Got it. It's kinda funny, Hans really did most of this one by the sound of things, but he really seemed unsure about it / unenthusiastic in the early stages.
You mean sometimes Hans writes his music ? Unbelievable huh ?? lol
lol. No, but the amount he did shows that his view of the movie changed as things went. Which you can also tell from interviews. He seems to really like the film. I wonder how he felt about the negative reactions people gave it.
Yeah he liked it...
The problem is he trapped himself telling so early that Junkie would do Batman that he couldn't turn back when that actually didn't happen... lol
One of the reasons I'm thankful for this site is that we get to know better than all the people on Youtube saying things like, "Actually guys this is Junkie XL, Zimmer only did the Superman and Wonder Woman stuff."
Ironic, Zimmer scores...people don't give him credit when it's actually due, and they sometimes give him a bit too much if other composers were involved. :P
So Hans is responsible for the DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN?
Most of the Batman theme, apparently!
Looking at the credits, it seems like Steve Mazzaro handled the more "brooding" arrangements of the Batman theme, while Andrew Kawcynski did the more action-oriented versions (Do You Bleed, Thug Fight) and action / sound-design-based cues in general (Desert, Post-Apocalypse. Branding....).
Yeah actually the very creepy ambient part of Batman, in Branding or Men Are Still Good (with Dom Lewis' "scream") is Junkie. But that's all his Batman input lol...
can I post youtube links here? because I'm editing some unreleased tracks and I would like to share.
just post them. If they get deleted, who cares
So, they've been deleted
You can post them some place else where people can ran them ;)
Since when is it forbidden to post a link to a youtube video of a fan-made edit of an unreleased music? :o
I think it's pretty obvious. They don't want us to hear anything outside the less-than-80 minutes they put on the soundtrack album. Which is, of course, very selfish of them. They don't understand our appreciation of this music. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought we just do it for kicks. But no, we do it because we CARE about this material.
I don´t know why they didn´t release complete score, so they could let us at least to hear ripped music...
The website owner is a belligerent french cuck who thinks he is entitled to having access to complete scores, and you aren't.
The explanation is at begin of most of the DVD/BD you buy... And for your information, I have NO complete score.
I think the trilogy from "The Dark Knight" with Cristian Bale as batman are the best soundtracks ever,of course appreciate the job of mr.Hans Zimmer but Ben Affleck cant touch Crirstian Bale as bataman.I hope the Cristian Bale starred το onother movie as Batman and not Ben Affleck.
The album presentation does like to make that part noticed, doesn't it? They should have just let "Beautiful Lie" enter quietly, as it does in the film. I'm still not sure why they needed to add that intro.
I'm still not sure why they went with that choice, period. For such a blatantly cheap-sounding horn-of-doom idea to exist so prominently in a film score half a decade down the road from Inception is, frankly, something I expect of far lesser RC composers than Zimmer himself. Perhaps an indication that his heart wasn't really in this project...at least, that's how it feels to me. Don't blame him really.
Mhmm... if Zimmer wanted people to stop thinking of him as the BWAAAAAMMMMM guy, he certainly hasn't aided his cause. :P
Also, looks like Hybrid added a Mazzaro credit onto "Their War Here" (Main Titles pt. 2) at some point. Nifty.
Does anyone know how to get the tracks that were left out from the soundtrack? Any websites or torrents? Or do we have to wait until the complete score? When does that come out?
Right now, nothing, nada. If that ever comes out, it will be some day, there's no dates for that sort of thing,
...and by then, everybody would know lol
Ugh that sucks so much. I really want the music when Superman took Doomsday to space. It was an amazing track that they never released
That's not "Tuesday"?
No it isn't. I thought it was, but after listening to it multiple times, it features the violin cues from Their War Here and some alternate Day of the Dead, but more emotional and dramatic
Hmmm... Well, as with all of these scores, it's bound to surface eventually. ;)
Yeah maybe, I'm hoping it is apart of the complete soundtrack and that they release the complete score soon
This is the one track I want as well! Hugely powerful!
anyone else notice "problems up here" isn't the complete film version? they "conveniently" cut the whole part with the piano / romantic theme when superman saves lois from falling and the heroic tune as flies back up to luthor. -_-
Yep I noticed that too, that's what I'm saying, there has to be a complete score that Hans has up his sleeve with the full version of that track, and the rest. I really need them to release it
Complete scores are not released. They're leaked. And that sucks in some cases.
Oh dang I didn't even know that. I hope someone leaks it within the next year or something somehow. And yeah it does
Well, you see, Sam... There's a legend about the ''score trading mafia circle'' - people who have that rare (in their eyes) stuff, that everybody would like to have, but they keep it locked tightly like it's their own product, their creation and those complete scores / recording sessions (whatever you name them) float around until someone decides to show enough generosity and ''leak'' it. Sometimes it happens after a year or two... Sometimes it can take 10 years or more... However, only by buying the authentic copy of CD you truly support the composer and all the people involved in the process. Of course, some composers don't care if their music is spread all over the internet, some aren't happy at all. However, that is illegal and everybody silently agrees with it. Yes, sometimes original albums lack ''that one precious cue'' everybody loves, but if we talk quality - we should stick to the original releases. Because anyway - once you get that ''precious track'', it suddenly becomes not that precious anymore. Talking about BvS - I bought a physical copy of the deluxe version and I'm very happy with it, unlike most people. It's just my opinion. But the legend... continues to live on.
To sum it all up: if you're lucky enough to get the complete score - fine. But please, consider buying the original first. That's the least we can do to support those, who create masterpieces we all love so much.
Actually mister anonymous, you don't support the composer. The composer doesn't own the rights. The studio does. So you're supporting the studio. And WB has more money than bill gates, Donald trump and the sultan of Saudi Arabia combined.
Really? Damn, Bill... You've just destroyed my idealistic world.
Oh I own the soundtrack on disc and vinyl. But it'd be nice if they release the complete score for money, I'd gladly pay 50 bucks for it especially for BvS
Okay so when Bruce is in bed and wakes up in his house with a girl at about minute 44 after the dream of the hat attacking him what is the melodic piano that plays when he walks around his house and enjoys the view ?
Was the version of "Amazing Grace" at the end of the film handled by the score team? I didn't think anything of it when I first watched the movie, but after watching the scene again, I noticed it sounded "arranged."
So news broke today that Junkie XL is scoring the Justice League
Come on, Hans... please come back and do Superman some real justice in this film!!!
Hybrid, do you think Hans could be prevailed upon between now and the film's release? He was on Batman v Superman, and I can't believe that Junkie XL wouldn't try to discuss it...
Honestly, why would they need Hans ? I think he wrote enough themes for this saga already, it'll be mostly rearrangements of it... lol
True enough, but if you ask me, Hans has a certain musical touch that none of his colleagues do. If he were to work on the score directly, I feel nearly certain the end result would be better and more striking than if Junkie, Mazzaro, Kawcynski, et al just did arrangements. Even in the scores where a "ghostwriter" does half the job, Hans' influence still means a lot for the final product IMO. You can tell when he's there and when he isn't, even if his themes are used by other people. His hands-on vision and contributions do come through in the final product.
Well I think Hans will be around anyway, one way or another. Despite what he said about super hero movies, he'll keep an eye on them. ;)
Some of you may appreciate this interesting theme tidbit... I didn't realize this, but the Krypton motif from MoS (used for Kryptonite in BvS) did indeed make it onto the OST release here. Listen closely at 1:00 in "Black and Blue," the moment in the film when Batman first gases Superman with Kryptonite, and that actually is the Krypton / Kryptonite motif in distorted form. I hadn't caught that until now!
And additionally..... The second half of "Tuesday" is a combination of the Krypton motif and Luthor's piano theme. Makes sense considering the combination of Lex's blood with the Kryptonian technology.
Interesting. I hadn't caught that. Wasn't there also something about Luthor's theme being the Superman theme backwards?
I feel like this movie had pretty strong theme use overall, even if none of the ideas play off each other like one might expect. But I mean, there are distinct themes for everything (Superman, Batman, Doomsday, Lex, Wonder Woman, Kryptonite), and they're easy to pick out. Unlike, say, Civil War, which has 5 or 6 themes that all sound the same. :P
Agreed, But this is a case where the album really didn't capture the development of the themes. Both Bruce Wayne and WW's themes receive a fair amount of treatment in the film. Same with Supes, there are plenty of interesting variations that expand the ideas.
I thought Batman got okay treatment on album (with cues like "Their War Here", "May I Help You, Mr. Wayne?", "Do You Bleed?", and "The Batman Suite", we get pretty much all the prominent variations for that theme). I do agree that we could have used more Superman and Wonder Woman music though (I liked the "Day of the Dead" variation when the guy in the wheelchair spray painted on the statue, and the music that played during the Justice League cameos).
But the biggest thing that bothered me was the lack of the Kryptonite motif on album (aside from the short snippet mentioned above). It had some cool variations when Lex utilized General Zod's corpse in the ship wreckage and in the scene following the Batmobile chase, for example.
So, the Ultimate Cut leaked, and althought it's not really available to pirate, there's a lot of descriptions scenes. Won't spoil anything of course, but if there's more music around, it will only be Lex's theme variations, and underscore of it, and maybe more underscore of Bats and Supes. The Africa scene however, will probably have more action stuff.
The music played when Bruce acces the Meta-Human files is so good too! Waiting for the Complete Score.
You know, I would welcome - if it fits - a reprise of "What Are You Going to Do..." or the end of "Flight," even if it's just tracked in from MoS. But something tells me that the extended edition probably doesn't have any new Superman material worthy of such an inclusion.
Hans would have liked that too, but there was no scene for that...
"Hans would have liked that too, but there was no scene for that..."
Whoa, for real?! That actually makes me feel a bit bad for placing some of the blame on Zimmer for under-using the heroic stuff... Now, granted, I don't know why they couldn't have included a snippet of it when Superman flies to the rescue in the Africa scene. But in the end, yeah, this movie didn't particularly lend itself to stuff like that.
So, there are some clips of the new scenes, and there's a very sad piano track this time around, you will love it.
As Everan points out, there's a nice sad, slow piano version of the "If You Love These People" tune as Superman helps people following the extended Senate hearing scene. Maybe an early demo by Hans or something?
Also, the Africa bit has no new music, just rehashes of Blood of my Blood.
things really seem to have evened out by now as far as opinions of this one. when it first came out, everyone lambasted the ambient cues and the crushing seriousness and the uninspired character of the batman theme. and everyone insisted there must be great unreleased music (before seeing the film). but now... this album is a solid representation of the music and the score makes way more sense with the movie.
I'm really itching to find out which tracks are more than one piece, with their original titles. I know Hybrid said it's not all available, but I'm still curious.
Alright alright... lol
MAIN TITLES PT 1 => HZ TOWER FALLS => HZ JXL GIRL => HZ SM DESERT => HZ AK BULLET => HZ AK BW BRANDING => HZ JXL AK POST APOCALYPSE => HZ AK CHASE => HZ JXL AK PREPARATION MONTAGE => HZ JXL AK HERO FIGHT => HZ JXL THUG FIGHT => HZ JXL AK MEN ARE STILL GOOD => HZ JXL AK
"Girl - HZ SM"
Well, there ya go, everyone. If you found the BAM...BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAAAAM section of the Batman theme obnoxious, you can blame Zimmer, not Junkie XL (like people were originally doing). :P
Granted, Hybrid says as much below, but this just solidifies it. Thanks for sharing what credits are available, by the way. Is it fair to say that Junkie XL really did as much on this score as he did on MoS, not much more? Cause if he didn't really pen any themes, then he's basically brought back to the standard Zimmer "additional music / arrangements" category, right?
well he may not have done much more than on man of steel, but i still appreciate him getting front cover credit on this one. he deserved it on man of steel anyways so it's nice he got it here.
Very nice, thank you. I always like knowing the original titles.
Just thought about this... the only credits on Black & Blue are Hans and Junkie. In a funny way, that makes me happy. Cause the idea Hans and Junkie were touting early on was a Hans vs. Junkie type of thing, and although that didn't really materialize, it was Hans vs. Junkie on that namesake cue. :P
I'd say Junkie had a bigger influence on MOS than on this one...
Wait, which track is "Girl"?
Girl is not in the OST. It's the cue when Bruce saves the little girl during the Zod/Superman mayhem.
It's basically an arrangement of the very first 15 secs of the OST.
Ahh ok thanks. I thought maybe it was short for "Is She With You?" lol
Huh. These scores really can defy expectations, can't they? You go into a Hans score with a usual "ghostwriter" listed as a co-composer and expect to hear a lot of that co-composer's contributions. Nope. You go into a score with no front-cover co-composer and learn he did half the project! :P