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Richter is a conceptual artist, I love his Leftovers score, but come one, scoring to picture ?<br><br>He writes pieces that are used in scenes, not the other way around...<br><br>Richter scoring a moon buggy chase ? Hell no... lol you could see from day one it was gonna be replaced...^ Yeah the edit floating around matches Felix’s almost to a T. Only major difference is <br><br>“Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale”<br><br>Which is broken up into four separate cues. Realistically you could edit it anyway you want if you prefer the smaller cues. Personally, I like the long suite-like format of this release. Kinda like the album release for “Event Horizon” lol.I hope they at least release Richter's score.My Edit:<br><br>01. Rise Of An Empire - Marathon - King Darius - Artemisia - Man To God - War (13:36)<br>= <br><br>M1A Rise of An Empire (09:48)<br>M1B From Man to God King (03:44)<br><br>02. Greek Council - Persian War Plan - Spartan Fight Training - Greek Conversation - Your Commander Is Greek (10:47) <br>=<br><br>M2 Greek Council (03:39)<br>M3 Greek Conversation (07:06)<br><br>05. Suicide - General Bandari - Circle Battle (7:30) <br>=<br><br>M6 Suicide/General Bandari (02:10)<br>M7 Circle Battle (05:16)<br><br>06. Sex - Fire Battle (12:04) <br>=<br><br>M10 Sex (05:36)<br>M11 Fire Battle (06:21)<br><br>11. Our Final Stand - Showdown - United Greece - Finale (16:08) <br>=<br><br>M15-17A Our Final Stand/Showdown Pt.1 (08:19)<br>M17B-19 Showdown Pt.2/Finale (07:37)I'm not really interested in Balfe's part of work, but it would be a big disappointment if Richter's work wouldn't released.<br><br>But I think there's a good chance that movie (and music in particular) get an Oscar nominations, so let's just hope for the best.
@mpolonest123 any idea how to break up the really long cues on the complete? it’s a lot of tracks that are made up of several cuesArtemisia Suite = History of Artemisia <br>Greek Action Suite = Marathon <br>Xerxes Rebirth Suite = From Man to God King<br>Greek Sacrifice Suite = ???<br>Artemisia’s Childhood Suite = Artemisia’s Childhood<br>Greek Attack Suite = Greeks on Attack<br>Queen Gorgo Suite = Queen Gorgo<br>Xerxes Thoughts Suite = Xerxes Thoughts<br>Greek History Suite = History of the Greeks<br>Greek Victory Suite = Greeks Are Winning<br><br>Hope this helps! :-)Hybrid can you tell us what album cues are the suites ?!well, from what Lorne wrote on Twitter, it should be releasedCool thanks for getting back! I am still a little bit confused though. Do any Basil Poledouris cues go somewhere in that list? It’s been a very very long time since I have seen the film.
The Hans cues used are :<br><br>1M1 OPENING CREDITS / MAIN TITLE (USED FROM 2:18 TO 3:03)<br>1M2 GOLDEN STAIRCASE (USED FROM 0:00 TO 1:56)<br>2M2 JACK SEES WOLVES<br>2M3 BLACK WOLF<br>2M6 THE TREK CONTINUES (USED FROM 0:28 TO 1:15)<br>3M1 THIN ICE<br>3M2 SKUNKER'S DEATH<br>3M3 FULL MOON WOLF ATTACK<br>3M3A MORNING WOLF ATTACK<br>6M4 THE BEAR<br>6M4A THE BEAR ATTACK<br>7M3 IN THE STABLE<br>7M5 WHITE FANG FIGHTS SATAN<br>8M1 FIGHT MONTAGE (FIRST HALF USED)<br>8M3 PIT FIGHT (FINAL 20 SEC USED)<br><br>All the rest, by definition, is Basil's score...Hey hybrid soldier! You mentioned on the ghost in the shell page about white fang so I came here! Can you give us a list of the cues as they appear in the film please? The Basil Poledouris cues and the Hans Zimmer cues pleaseI imagined it ... hopefully this time Max Ritcher does not give him a lollipop and refuses to launch his musicYes Unbreakable.
<br>Exactly like White Fang. Have Poledouris write a score, then HZ do another, then pick what you want from both.
<br>Ghost In The Shell was kinda different...In the credits of the movie, Max Ritcher appears as the Main Composer, meanwhile, Lorne appears as Additional Music
I find that it would be best to accredit both and launch the two soundtracks and all happy.Hybrid implies that Max Ritcher's score was rejected, and that Lorne made a new one and in the end, the best of both has been used.  I am right?ANd now apparently another guy is scoring it as well lmaoTechnically he's a little under 50% used so there's no obligation. But he wrote a whole score for it.but if Lorne has written 50% of the score you should have a credit like in Ghost in the shell

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  2. Their War Here (4:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro
  3. The Red Capes Are Coming (Lex Luthor Theme) (3:31)
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  4. Day Of The Dead (4:01)
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  5. Must There Be A Superman? (3:58)
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  6. New Rules (4:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Tom Holkenborg, Steve Mazzaro, Andrew Kawczynski
  7. Do You Bleed? (4:36)
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  8. Problems Up Here (4:25)
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  9. Black And Blue (8:30)
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  10. Tuesday (4:00)
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  11. Is She With You? (Wonder Woman Theme) (5:46)
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  12. This Is My World (6:23)
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  13. Men Are Still Good (The Batman Suite) (14:03)
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  1. Blood Of My Blood (4:25)
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  3. May I Help You, Mr. Wayne? (3:27)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Benjamin Wallfisch
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GreenRain reply Replies: 1 || 2016-09-12 21:30:14
Guys, what's the name of the song, where Bruce is watching files about metahumans, it is right after his training scene and before Wonder Woman picture.

Felix2016-09-12 22:07:35
it's unreleased

Gus reply Replies: 3 || 2016-08-19 06:50:27
Hey guys,

After watching the movie a couple of times, I'm still having a hard time putting the tracks in chronological order. Can anybody help out with that??

theeaglesfan0052016-08-20 17:07:00
Here's a note i have from April 3rd

1. A Beautiful Lie (first 10 seconds can probably be placed after "their war here")
2. Their War Here
3. Blood of my blood
4. Vigilante (0:00-1:00 is Lois in her apartment; 1:00-end is the Batman scene)
5. The Red Capes Are Coming (need to split for senator finch scene later on)
6. There were hunters (0:00-0:28 Bruce "man-bat" nightmare wake)
7. May I Help You, Mr. Wayne? (Party scene)
8. Day of the dead (intro is when superman talks to his mom before the court scene; 1:07ish-end is the rescue montage)
9. Must There Be A Superman? (Knightmare scene)
10. New Rules (second half sounds a lot like vigilante so idk where the second half would go exactly)
11. Do You Bleed?
12. There were hunters (0:28-end or 1:12-end.. I'm not entirely sure because 0:28-1:12 is the MoS piano)
13. Problems Up Here
14. Black and Blue
15. Fight Night
16. Tuesday
17. Is She With You?
18. This Is My World
19. Men Are Still Good (0:00-4:30)
End Credits:
20. Rendition of "1m01f The Launch" from MoS Complete Score
21. End of Beautiful Lie
22. Some of Bruce's theme
23. Do You Bleed? (End part)
24. The Red Capes Are Coming (part of)
25. Beautiful Lie (part of)

Gus2016-08-20 20:14:30
Awesome! Thank you. I love how generous these HZ/Junkie XL official releases are getting recently, in terms of content.

josimar2016-08-21 19:16:05
Awesome work, thanks!

I'm not a fan from bootleg unnoficial releases, but I would love one of this score. The OST Special Edition is indeed very generous, but there's two cues I would love to get. The first one is the music that plays on the first part of the Capitol scene, before Superman arrives - when he lands among the protesters, the cue that plays is the final part of Day of the Dead (probably tracked from the earlier montage scene), but it fits incredibly well on the scene.

The other one is the first part of the End Credits, which I'm not entirely sure if it is tracked from the Man of Steel score. Anyway, it is a nice, dramatic rendition of the Launch theme.

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2016-08-16 12:02:36
Hey there's another felix :D

ei18 reply Replies: 5 || 2016-07-23 23:46:24
Does anyone know who is composing Wonder Woman? They used Hans theme in the new trailer, which was pretty sweet!

Anonymous2016-07-24 15:50:04
It's actually Tina Guo. There's a featurette on YouTube and you see her playing it

Felix2016-07-24 15:58:44
@ei18 on imdb is nothing listed

@Anonymous he mean who compose the Wonder Woman Movie

I think Tom Holkenborg will do it, maybe with Hans together again, that would be great :)

Lejti2016-07-24 15:59:15
I do not think that "playing it" and "composing it" are the same thing.
btw i think WW theme comes from Hans

Mike2016-07-24 17:51:44
All the themes are originally written by Hans here. Hybrid said that below.

Anonymous2016-07-24 17:52:15
True. But every video I've seen of HZ and co performing an RCP score, HZ is always doing his parts. She is listed as "musician" in the details and she is seen playing it but yeah that doesn't mean she wrote it

This just gives me hope that the theme will actually be present in the movie

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2016-08-09 23:27:04
I have to admit that Zimmer's new Batman theme has really grown on me since we first heard it. I used to hate the percussion pounding and the massive choir, but now that I've listened to it more, the main tune is really cool. It sounds like an intentional homage to the themes from the 80's/90's film series (kinda like the one second of the Dark Knight suite in TDK) and even with the "cheesy" percussion and choir, it still epitomizes Batman. Perhaps even more than his 2-note stuff with Nolan.

Anonymous2016-08-09 23:28:55
And, the theme actually has a hummable tune! It isn't just 2 or 3 notes repeated! So between the Batfleck theme's "tune" part and the TASM 2 fanfare, Zimmer actually HAS written 2 more "traditional" superhero themes. :)

Mike reply Replies: 11 || 2016-08-03 16:15:29
Hybrid, are you able to comment on this? We may have complete credits for the Batman Suite, based on an interview Hans and Junkie gave with Warner Bros. Zimmer said:

--he spent 8 weeks working on the Batman theme
--he needed a second opinion but Junkie was away working on Mad Max, so he gave it to Steve Mazzaro "clarified" Hans' work a bit
--Junkie XL returned from Mad Max and they gave it to him to finish off

So can we safely say that "The Batman Suite" = Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Junkie XL?

Hybrid Soldier2016-08-03 16:36:52
First rule, you can't trust official interviews ! lol

Mike2016-08-03 16:40:51
Hahaha, I was going to add, "After what you say about the Po Tune, I'm cautious here," but decided against it. lol.

Hybrid Soldier2016-08-03 16:42:09
No I mean seriously I'm not just saying this based on the cuesheet, I talked with enough people who worked on the score ! lol

Mike2016-08-03 17:17:00
MacArthur, if you're lurking, I hope you get the satisfaction of reading what Hybrid has been saying about BvS.... In this case, "most of it was Zimmer" appears to be right! :P

Macejko2016-08-03 19:07:34
Damn, Mike, don't summon that asshole :D

Anonymous2016-08-06 00:47:47
surely Junkie XL did something on the Batman theme? it's even on his page here...

Hybrid Soldier2016-08-06 00:59:59
I'm gonna correct that...

Mike2016-08-06 18:44:37
"Tower Falls" seems appropriate for JXL...what do you think? ;)

Hybrid Soldier2016-08-06 18:51:16
Hey btw Mike how do I get in touch with you ?

You should drop an email to Nicolas (in the About section) and just tell him to transfer to me. :)

Edmund Meinerts2016-08-07 11:58:55
I'm still praying that's not true, Mike. The Dark Tower deserves so much better than Junkie XL... :(

Mike2016-08-07 19:48:00
Don't worry, Edmund, I was referring to "Tower Falls," aka the main part of "Their War Here," as being a suitable replacement cue to put on Junkie XL's page, since he obviously did that cue.

And okay, Hybrid, I'll do that when I get the chance. :)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 13 || 2016-07-24 19:48:24
Found some more cue credits from the cuesheet :


Still not the full thing but we're slowly getting there... lol

Mike2016-07-24 20:47:26
Cool! Somehow I was right about all the solo HZ cues (Beautiful Lie, Day of the Dead, Tuesday). :P Funny how much less Junkie XL ended up doing than you might expect. I thought his name would be on most cues before you started sharing credits, but it's missing from several of them.

Anonymous2016-07-24 20:54:35
Is Red Capes are Coming a suite or 2 cues edited together?

Mike2016-07-24 20:57:49
If I recall correctly, it's 2 cues, one as Luthor enters the Kryptonian ship wreckage, the other as he discusses the painting to the Senator. (Is one of those cues "Wreckage," above?)

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-24 21:13:45
No Wreckage is at the beginning, when they find the Kryptonite out of the World Engine wreck... I think...

If you try to make it match with the OST =>

IS SHE WITH YOU => ?? (But it's HZ lol)
THIS IS MY WORLD => ?? (Maybe it's OUR HERO (HZ SM)

THEY WERE HUNTERS => ?? (Ending part of DREAMS ?) + ??

Something like that... :P

Mike2016-07-24 21:24:29
Got it. It's kinda funny, Hans really did most of this one by the sound of things, but he really seemed unsure about it / unenthusiastic in the early stages.

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-24 21:29:28
You mean sometimes Hans writes his music ? Unbelievable huh ?? lol

Mike2016-07-24 21:31:32
lol. No, but the amount he did shows that his view of the movie changed as things went. Which you can also tell from interviews. He seems to really like the film. I wonder how he felt about the negative reactions people gave it.

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-24 21:34:41
Yeah he liked it...

The problem is he trapped himself telling so early that Junkie would do Batman that he couldn't turn back when that actually didn't happen... lol

Mike2016-07-24 21:38:31
One of the reasons I'm thankful for this site is that we get to know better than all the people on Youtube saying things like, "Actually guys this is Junkie XL, Zimmer only did the Superman and Wonder Woman stuff."

Ironic, Zimmer scores...people don't give him credit when it's actually due, and they sometimes give him a bit too much if other composers were involved. :P

Megalith2016-07-30 03:30:42
So Hans is responsible for the DUN, DUN DUN DUN DUN?

Mike2016-07-30 04:56:30
Most of the Batman theme, apparently!

Anonymous2016-08-06 18:51:54
Looking at the credits, it seems like Steve Mazzaro handled the more "brooding" arrangements of the Batman theme, while Andrew Kawcynski did the more action-oriented versions (Do You Bleed, Thug Fight) and action / sound-design-based cues in general (Desert, Post-Apocalypse. Branding....).

Hybrid Soldier2016-08-06 19:58:42
Yeah actually the very creepy ambient part of Batman, in Branding or Men Are Still Good (with Dom Lewis' "scream") is Junkie. But that's all his Batman input lol...

Megalith reply Replies: 6 || 2016-07-24 04:13:01
The best Batman track plays when he's lifting the weights and cutting the Kryptonite, and it's not on the soundtrack.

The Pale King2016-07-24 04:32:27
^^ THIS.

Gilvane Cezar2016-07-31 02:44:56

Mike2016-07-31 03:01:03

Hope I'm playing the game like I'm supposed to. :P

Gilvane Cezar2016-07-31 03:16:47
Lol :D

Anonymous2016-07-31 03:58:27
You mean when the best version of Wonder Woman's theme is heard?

Gilvane Cezar2016-07-31 04:10:48
Yes, and the part played before that too.

mr luis zimmer reply Replies: 9 || 2016-07-21 16:02:48
can I post youtube links here? because I'm editing some unreleased tracks and I would like to share.

bro2016-07-21 16:26:23
just post them. If they get deleted, who cares

Damien, Moderator2016-07-22 14:19:16
So, they've been deleted

Anonymous2016-07-22 15:38:40
You can post them some place else where people can ran them ;)

Ds2016-07-22 17:28:54
Since when is it forbidden to post a link to a youtube video of a fan-made edit of an unreleased music? :o

Cameron2016-07-22 17:41:19
I think it's pretty obvious. They don't want us to hear anything outside the less-than-80 minutes they put on the soundtrack album. Which is, of course, very selfish of them. They don't understand our appreciation of this music. I wouldn't be surprised if they thought we just do it for kicks. But no, we do it because we CARE about this material.

Anonymous2016-07-22 21:10:45
I don´t know why they didn´t release complete score, so they could let us at least to hear ripped music...

bro2016-07-23 00:08:16
The website owner is a belligerent french cuck who thinks he is entitled to having access to complete scores, and you aren't.

Damien, Moderator2016-07-23 00:17:20
The explanation is at begin of most of the DVD/BD you buy...
And for your information, I have NO complete score.

mr luis zimmer2016-07-23 22:05:55
I'm sorry moderator! ### EDITED ###

JamesGordon reply Replies: 1 || 2016-07-20 00:57:52
I think the trilogy from "The Dark Knight" with Cristian Bale as batman are the best soundtracks ever,of course appreciate the job of mr.Hans Zimmer but Ben Affleck cant touch Crirstian Bale as bataman.I hope the Cristian Bale starred &#964;&#959; onother movie as Batman and not Ben Affleck.

Radik2016-07-20 08:02:25
Keep Dreaming ;)

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-18 01:46:58
Junkie XL:Cocomposer
Hans Zimmer:Cocomposer
Andrew Kawczynski:Additional Music
Steve Mazzaro:Additional Music
Benjamin Wallfisch:Additional Music
Nick Glennie-Smith:Conductor

Like This Soundtrack Of Batman V.Superman,But I Like The New Theme From Batman By Junkie XL.With Orchestral Music+Electronic Music

nvictor reply Replies: 3 || 2016-07-15 21:34:51

Mike2016-07-17 22:03:01

The album presentation does like to make that part noticed, doesn't it? They should have just let "Beautiful Lie" enter quietly, as it does in the film. I'm still not sure why they needed to add that intro.

Edmund Meinerts2016-07-17 22:48:47
I'm still not sure why they went with that choice, period. For such a blatantly cheap-sounding horn-of-doom idea to exist so prominently in a film score half a decade down the road from Inception is, frankly, something I expect of far lesser RC composers than Zimmer himself. Perhaps an indication that his heart wasn't really in this least, that's how it feels to me. Don't blame him really.

Mike2016-07-18 00:44:45
Mhmm... if Zimmer wanted people to stop thinking of him as the BWAAAAAMMMMM guy, he certainly hasn't aided his cause. :P

Also, looks like Hybrid added a Mazzaro credit onto "Their War Here" (Main Titles pt. 2) at some point. Nifty.

Sam reply Replies: 16 || 2016-06-15 23:57:45
Does anyone know how to get the tracks that were left out from the soundtrack? Any websites or torrents? Or do we have to wait until the complete score? When does that come out?

Everan2016-06-16 00:06:18
Right now, nothing, nada. If that ever comes out, it will be some day, there's no dates for that sort of thing,

Anonymous2016-06-16 00:09:55
...and by then, everybody would know lol

Sam2016-06-16 00:11:32
Ugh that sucks so much. I really want the music when Superman took Doomsday to space. It was an amazing track that they never released

Mike2016-06-16 00:12:47
That's not "Tuesday"?

Sam2016-06-16 00:14:24
No it isn't. I thought it was, but after listening to it multiple times, it features the violin cues from Their War Here and some alternate Day of the Dead, but more emotional and dramatic

Mike2016-06-16 00:18:41
Hmmm... Well, as with all of these scores, it's bound to surface eventually. ;)

Sam2016-06-16 00:24:02
Yeah maybe, I'm hoping it is apart of the complete soundtrack and that they release the complete score soon

NotSoAnonymous2016-06-16 01:09:57
This is the one track I want as well! Hugely powerful!

Anonymous2016-06-17 05:22:50
anyone else notice "problems up here" isn't the complete film version? they "conveniently" cut the whole part with the piano / romantic theme when superman saves lois from falling and the heroic tune as flies back up to luthor. -_-

Sam2016-06-27 00:56:01
Yep I noticed that too, that's what I'm saying, there has to be a complete score that Hans has up his sleeve with the full version of that track, and the rest. I really need them to release it

Anonymous2016-06-27 11:00:55
Complete scores are not released. They're leaked. And that sucks in some cases.

Sam2016-06-29 20:38:06
Oh dang I didn't even know that. I hope someone leaks it within the next year or something somehow. And yeah it does

Anonymous2016-06-29 22:20:43
Well, you see, Sam... There's a legend about the ''score trading mafia circle'' - people who have that rare (in their eyes) stuff, that everybody would like to have, but they keep it locked tightly like it's their own product, their creation and those complete scores / recording sessions (whatever you name them) float around until someone decides to show enough generosity and ''leak'' it. Sometimes it happens after a year or two... Sometimes it can take 10 years or more... However, only by buying the authentic copy of CD you truly support the composer and all the people involved in the process. Of course, some composers don't care if their music is spread all over the internet, some aren't happy at all. However, that is illegal and everybody silently agrees with it. Yes, sometimes original albums lack ''that one precious cue'' everybody loves, but if we talk quality - we should stick to the original releases. Because anyway - once you get that ''precious track'', it suddenly becomes not that precious anymore. Talking about BvS - I bought a physical copy of the deluxe version and I'm very happy with it, unlike most people. It's just my opinion. But the legend... continues to live on.

To sum it all up: if you're lucky enough to get the complete score - fine. But please, consider buying the original first. That's the least we can do to support those, who create masterpieces we all love so much.

Bill2016-06-30 03:57:39
Actually mister anonymous, you don't support the composer. The composer doesn't own the rights. The studio does. So you're supporting the studio. And WB has more money than bill gates, Donald trump and the sultan of Saudi Arabia combined.

Anonymous2016-06-30 13:26:36
Really? Damn, Bill... You've just destroyed my idealistic world.

Sam2016-07-15 08:02:31
Oh I own the soundtrack on disc and vinyl. But it'd be nice if they release the complete score for money, I'd gladly pay 50 bucks for it especially for BvS

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2016-07-14 19:27:04
Was the additional music for the Ultimate Edition recorded after the fact?

Hybrid Soldier2016-07-14 23:49:15
No the music editor used previous unused material.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2016-07-02 18:05:47
hybrid would you be willing to add the known credits to the tracklist?

Michael reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-29 21:01:50
someone needs to leak the complete score

Macejko2016-06-29 21:35:20
I would say that it much rather needs to be completely forgotten, but to each his own.

Ds2016-06-29 22:07:07
It looks like the haters from the filmmusicreporter forums are using Macejko's name to write insanities...
Looking at you, Lindword and BB!

Macejko2016-06-30 18:07:08
No, Ds, this is really me, I'm afraid...

Everan2016-07-01 16:20:31
Well you can completely forget about it, while those who enjoy it can enjoy it.
Live and let live, the score's existence shouldn't affect yours.

anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2016-06-30 02:58:33
Hybrid, did Hans and Junkie write any suites outside of the Batman theme suite?

Watching the ultimate edition there are some interesting variations on the Africa theme and the "Flight/love" theme

Robert Rojas reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-29 09:28:22
Okay so when Bruce is in bed and wakes up in his house with a girl at about minute 44 after the dream of the hat attacking him what is the melodic piano that plays when he walks around his house and enjoys the view ?

peter2016-06-29 10:32:17
They Were Hunters

ZekeWars010 reply Replies: 2 || 2016-06-26 21:38:11
I love this soundtrack. I love the new themes for Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lex Luthor. I also like the nods to Man of Steel. BUT, I have some questions.

1. What is that motif that sounds like The Winter Soldier's Theme from Cap 2 and Civil War?

2. Does it bug anybody else that the "Flight" motif from the last movie doesn't make a single appearance in this score?

3. Am I the only person is pissed that Alfred doesn't get his own theme?

4. Does Doomsday have a theme? If so, where?

5. Anything on the Complete score?

Mortifer V.2016-06-26 21:55:05
1. That's part of the Batman themes.

2. The movie didn't really leave any room for that theme to be used.

3. I don't think Alfred should have a theme here. Maybe in the solo Batman movie.

4. 'Tuesday'. Maybe it's not actually his theme, but it's the only musical cue directly describing him.

ZekeWars0102016-06-28 02:02:52
+Mortifier V. Thanks friend.

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2016-06-27 02:15:04
Was the version of "Amazing Grace" at the end of the film handled by the score team? I didn't think anything of it when I first watched the movie, but after watching the scene again, I noticed it sounded "arranged."

scarecrow9 reply Replies: 6 || 2016-06-21 15:34:06
So news broke today that Junkie XL is scoring the Justice League

Anonymous2016-06-21 15:45:37
Come on, Hans... please come back and do Superman some real justice in this film!!!

Mike2016-06-21 15:51:38
Hybrid, do you think Hans could be prevailed upon between now and the film's release? He was on Batman v Superman, and I can't believe that Junkie XL wouldn't try to discuss it...

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-21 19:06:52
Honestly, why would they need Hans ? I think he wrote enough themes for this saga already, it'll be mostly rearrangements of it... lol

Mike2016-06-21 20:09:10
True enough, but if you ask me, Hans has a certain musical touch that none of his colleagues do. If he were to work on the score directly, I feel nearly certain the end result would be better and more striking than if Junkie, Mazzaro, Kawcynski, et al just did arrangements. Even in the scores where a "ghostwriter" does half the job, Hans' influence still means a lot for the final product IMO. You can tell when he's there and when he isn't, even if his themes are used by other people. His hands-on vision and contributions do come through in the final product.

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-21 20:26:47
Well I think Hans will be around anyway, one way or another. Despite what he said about super hero movies, he'll keep an eye on them. ;)

smizzy2016-06-22 20:12:02
hybrid, you've forgotten your "lol".

Mike reply Replies: 4 || 2016-06-17 00:35:42
Some of you may appreciate this interesting theme tidbit... I didn't realize this, but the Krypton motif from MoS (used for Kryptonite in BvS) did indeed make it onto the OST release here. Listen closely at 1:00 in "Black and Blue," the moment in the film when Batman first gases Superman with Kryptonite, and that actually is the Krypton / Kryptonite motif in distorted form. I hadn't caught that until now!

mpolonest1232016-06-17 01:14:13
And additionally.....
The second half of "Tuesday" is a combination of the Krypton motif and Luthor's piano theme. Makes sense considering the combination of Lex's blood with the Kryptonian technology.

Mike2016-06-17 02:16:18
Interesting. I hadn't caught that. Wasn't there also something about Luthor's theme being the Superman theme backwards?

I feel like this movie had pretty strong theme use overall, even if none of the ideas play off each other like one might expect. But I mean, there are distinct themes for everything (Superman, Batman, Doomsday, Lex, Wonder Woman, Kryptonite), and they're easy to pick out. Unlike, say, Civil War, which has 5 or 6 themes that all sound the same. :P

mpolonest1232016-06-17 04:04:30
But this is a case where the album really didn't capture the development of the themes. Both Bruce Wayne and WW's themes receive a fair amount of treatment in the film. Same with Supes, there are plenty of interesting variations that expand the ideas.

Mike2016-06-17 05:30:23
I thought Batman got okay treatment on album (with cues like "Their War Here", "May I Help You, Mr. Wayne?", "Do You Bleed?", and "The Batman Suite", we get pretty much all the prominent variations for that theme). I do agree that we could have used more Superman and Wonder Woman music though (I liked the "Day of the Dead" variation when the guy in the wheelchair spray painted on the statue, and the music that played during the Justice League cameos).

But the biggest thing that bothered me was the lack of the Kryptonite motif on album (aside from the short snippet mentioned above). It had some cool variations when Lex utilized General Zod's corpse in the ship wreckage and in the scene following the Batmobile chase, for example.

Everan reply Replies: 7 || 2016-06-13 19:46:56
So, the Ultimate Cut leaked, and althought it's not really available to pirate, there's a lot of descriptions scenes.
Won't spoil anything of course, but if there's more music around, it will only be Lex's theme variations, and underscore of it, and maybe more underscore of Bats and Supes.
The Africa scene however, will probably have more action stuff.

Gilvane Cezar2016-06-13 20:09:29
The music played when Bruce acces the Meta-Human files is so good too! Waiting for the Complete Score.

Mike 2016-06-13 21:21:25
You know, I would welcome - if it fits - a reprise of "What Are You Going to Do..." or the end of "Flight," even if it's just tracked in from MoS. But something tells me that the extended edition probably doesn't have any new Superman material worthy of such an inclusion.

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-13 21:51:05
Hans would have liked that too, but there was no scene for that...

Mike 2016-06-13 22:49:28
"Hans would have liked that too, but there was no scene for that..."

Whoa, for real?! That actually makes me feel a bit bad for placing some of the blame on Zimmer for under-using the heroic stuff... Now, granted, I don't know why they couldn't have included a snippet of it when Superman flies to the rescue in the Africa scene. But in the end, yeah, this movie didn't particularly lend itself to stuff like that.

Everan2016-06-15 20:34:43
So, there are some clips of the new scenes, and there's a very sad piano track this time around, you will love it.

Mike2016-06-15 23:45:26
*potential spoilers!!!!*

As Everan points out, there's a nice sad, slow piano version of the "If You Love These People" tune as Superman helps people following the extended Senate hearing scene. Maybe an early demo by Hans or something?

Everan2016-06-15 23:49:01
Could be.

Also, the Africa bit has no new music, just rehashes of Blood of my Blood.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2016-06-15 19:01:45
things really seem to have evened out by now as far as opinions of this one. when it first came out, everyone lambasted the ambient cues and the crushing seriousness and the uninspired character of the batman theme. and everyone insisted there must be great unreleased music (before seeing the film). but now... this album is a solid representation of the music and the score makes way more sense with the movie.

Cameron reply Replies: 10 || 2016-06-13 23:44:30
I'm really itching to find out which tracks are more than one piece, with their original titles. I know Hybrid said it's not all available, but I'm still curious.

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-14 13:13:00
Alright alright... lol


Mike2016-06-14 15:14:36
"Girl - HZ SM"

Well, there ya go, everyone. If you found the BAM...BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAAAAM section of the Batman theme obnoxious, you can blame Zimmer, not Junkie XL (like people were originally doing). :P

Granted, Hybrid says as much below, but this just solidifies it. Thanks for sharing what credits are available, by the way. Is it fair to say that Junkie XL really did as much on this score as he did on MoS, not much more? Cause if he didn't really pen any themes, then he's basically brought back to the standard Zimmer "additional music / arrangements" category, right?

Anonymous2016-06-14 15:23:52
well he may not have done much more than on man of steel, but i still appreciate him getting front cover credit on this one. he deserved it on man of steel anyways so it's nice he got it here.

Cameron2016-06-14 15:56:15
Very nice, thank you. I always like knowing the original titles.

Mike 2016-06-14 16:24:40
Just thought about this... the only credits on Black & Blue are Hans and Junkie. In a funny way, that makes me happy. Cause the idea Hans and Junkie were touting early on was a Hans vs. Junkie type of thing, and although that didn't really materialize, it was Hans vs. Junkie on that namesake cue. :P

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-14 17:24:43
I'd say Junkie had a bigger influence on MOS than on this one...

Anonymous2016-06-14 18:04:59
Wait, which track is "Girl"?

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-14 18:54:33
Girl is not in the OST. It's the cue when Bruce saves the little girl during the Zod/Superman mayhem.

It's basically an arrangement of the very first 15 secs of the OST.

Anonymous2016-06-14 19:00:43
Ahh ok thanks. I thought maybe it was short for "Is She With You?" lol

Mike 2016-06-14 20:34:26
Huh. These scores really can defy expectations, can't they? You go into a Hans score with a usual "ghostwriter" listed as a co-composer and expect to hear a lot of that co-composer's contributions. Nope. You go into a score with no front-cover co-composer and learn he did half the project! :P

Zimmer's scores can be so unpredictable. lol.

Meta reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-14 17:44:37

Batman theme -

I guess that was the Batman theme that was earned, Zimmer?

Jesus, should have stuck with your original theme instead...

Mike2016-06-14 19:08:05
Well, to be fair, it looks like the earned theme was "A Dark Knight". I am curious if this was a discarded idea from the Nolan films, though.

Ds reply Replies: 13 || 2016-06-11 11:24:11
They've changed some track names in the iTunes release:

Track 3 becomes "The Red Capes Are Coming (Lex Luthor's Theme)"

Track 11 becomes "Is She With You? (Wonder Woman's Theme)"

Wondering WHO the hell is being paid to make such decisions :-p

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-12 19:40:47
Yeah interesting...

Doesn't change the fact that all this film's themes are Hans anyway... :P

Mike2016-06-12 22:42:22
"Doesn't change the fact that all this film's themes are Hans anyway... :P"

I'm still a little surprised that Hans did end up writing all the main themes in this score (granted, with Junkie contributing on Batman, too). But I really felt before it's release and from Hans' "tone" about it earlier on that he'd be passing most of the work onto Junkie. Thankfully, that didn't happen! He even seemed pretty enthusiastic about it in the interviews, despite his comments that finding a new angle for writing was difficult.

Also, unrelated: Hybrid, do you have the cue sheet for this? I'm just curious what the original track names are (don't like the OST titles, for some reason. lol).

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-12 22:54:30
Some of it appeared yes. I'll post it when all of it is available. This time everyone is credited when it's due, unlike MOS which was empty. Some indications of what's available :

BEAUTIFUL LIE (from 0:15 to the end) => Zimmer

THEIR WAR HERE (from 1:00 to the end) => Zimmer, JXL


VIGILANTE (from beginning to 1:00) => Zimmer, Kawczynski, Wallfisch

VIGILANTE (from 1:00 to the end) => Zimmer, JXL, Kawczynski

MUST THERE BE A SUPERMAN? => Zimmer, Kawczynski

DO YOU BLEED? => Zimmer, JXL, Kawczynski


FIGHT NIGHT => Zimmer, JXL, Kawczynski

MEN ARE STILL GOOD (from beginning to 4:32) => HZ, JXL, Kawczynski

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-12 22:55:41
Oups I screwed up, Blood of my Blood is HZ & Kawczynski, not JXL... :P

Mike2016-06-12 23:09:46
Cool, thanks! So I guess "Their War Here" is really two cues then, the first part in the Bat Cave and then the rest?

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-12 23:11:07
The first part is the Main Title pt 2, don't have the credit for that yet.

Russel2016-06-12 23:22:37
Really Hybrid? :P

(Woman Woman Theme) (5:46)

mpolonest123 2016-06-13 02:05:24
@hybrid Do you know if any other suites were written?

And do you have the complete cue list at all?

Mike2016-06-13 02:13:35
@mpolonest: I'm pretty sure more suites were indeed written... As I said below, Hans specifically mentioned a bunch of suites they wrote as being potential "filler" for the extended version of the film.

@Hybrid: I take it that what's been made available so far has been all the tracks with Andrew Kawcynski credits? Cause he appears on several of those cues, and this would mean we still need Mazzaro...

Anonymous2016-06-13 02:21:14
interesting that there's no junkie xl credit on "must there be a superman..." also i suppose the "bahm bahm bahm bahm BAHHHHM BAHHHHM" of the batman theme is a zimmer creation, cause it's in beautiful lie (much more subtly) with no junkie credit.

mpolonest1232016-06-13 06:08:17
@mike That's interesting, where did he say that? Perhaps the suites might round out the score a bit better.

Hybrid Soldier2016-06-13 08:42:40
Most of Batman's theme is HZ.

Mike2016-06-13 16:20:43
Check the interview Hans and Junkie did with Collider... The interviewer asked whether Snyder had enlisted them to write more music for the extended edition, and Hans' response was something like, "Well, we always begin by writing all these different suites, and there was enough extra material here that Zack could easily use that to fill out the new scenes."

The Pale King reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-02 23:39:29
Any chance of getting any additional officially released soundtrack material with the extended cut?

Mike2016-06-10 16:58:45
Zimmer did say they wrote a few suites for this score and that there would be no shortage of extra material for them to put into the extended cut to fill the removed scenes. But I don't know if that music will be released or not.

asaa reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-27 21:44:42
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Edmund Meinerts2016-05-28 06:39:45
I couldn't have put it better myself.

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