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So Hybrid, care to tell us why you randomly deleted comments talking about the leaked recording sessions?Yes! That piano part is amazing! <br>„when charles and jean stand in front of the school“Saw the movie. Great score and it really fits the movie.<br><br>Missing stuff:<br>- 25 seconds of a piano version of Gap without the brass and bells<br>- a 30 second badass version of the main theme during the mageneto/jean helicopter stand off<br>- 1.5 minute end credits suite. Typical Zimmer to leave the best and most epic track and best main theme version off the album. I hope it will be on CD2, but knowing Zimmer the best tracks always remain unreleased. This is another escape from ship...after listening and listening...this score is truly amazing! i love it so much! i want the suites and ideas NOW! :DWhere can I find this?
been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)<br><br>people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of<br>===============================<br><br><br>Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.
Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.<br><br>Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.<br><br>Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams. <br><br>You fools, the tracklist was but a scam. The tracks simply wanted to EAT you.Yeah, while this does have a great deal more substance than most of the work Hans has done the past few years, I struggle to say it's a genuinely *good* score.<br><br>I mean, within the first minute I'm reminded of Dunkirk, then we get a pretty standard Zimmer/Balfe buildup we've heard a million times since Inception... and it doesn't get hugely better from there.<br><br>I will definitely give Zimmer credit for the unique and genuinely creative use of female choir in some of the cues, though.Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).
There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.<br><br>Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.<br><br>Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.<br>Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.<br><br>100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).Hoping for the Rocketman score to get a release. Loved the score in the movie. Any updates on this ?Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.<br><br>HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid<br><br>HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief<br><br>HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers<br><br>A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals). <br><br>However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films. <br><br>Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)
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Lorne BalfeHans ZimmerKelly JohnsonSteven Kofsky
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13 Hours - The Secret Soldiers Of Benghazi
Label: Paramount Pictures (Digital Download Only)
Length: 52'23
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  1. Hero (4:21)
  2. Welcome To Benghazi (6:31)
  3. Downtime's The Worst (1:45)
  4. Burn Them Out (2:45)
  5. Calling Home (4:18)
  6. Engage Direct (4:02)
  7. The Last Resort (3:20)
  8. All The Gods (4:42)
  9. The Teams (3:32)
  10. Forgotten (9:11)
  11. All The Hells (3:49)
  12. Going Home (2:17)
  13. 13 Hours (2:09)
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Mike reply Replies: 3 || 2019-02-12 05:29:01
I've gotta ask this question, cause I've been unable to ignore it since I first heard this soundtrack... Does Going Home remind anyone else of Apologize by One Republic, for some reason?


George2019-02-12 12:22:16
Yes!! I just made a study playlist for my girlfriend and this was on it, and that’s the first thing she said haha


Ds2019-02-12 19:22:09
Yes, every single time I play this track I think of this song :-p


Mike2019-02-13 07:59:13
Glad I'm not the only one lol.... I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if there's actually a story there... I've never heard of a director pop music as temp music for a score, but I guess anything is possible. Maybe Lorne had been listening to it on the radio or something and the ideas stuck. Haha.

Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2019-01-03 17:25:35
Since I can't post the link here, you folks should head to wearemoviegeeks.com and check out a pretty cool new interview with Lorne. He talks about 'MI','13 Hours', how Bay inspired him, the upcoming 'Six Underground' and much, much more. "Composer Lorne Balfe Discusses MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE – FALLOUT, The Game Awards And SIX UNDERGROUND"


George2019-01-03 19:32:00
Thanks! I’ll check it out now!


Matrine2019-01-06 19:15:22
Cheers Bayhem for that.Cool to see Balfe is working with Bay again on 6 Underground


Sam Whitacre2019-01-25 00:44:05
Damn. Lorne Balfe's scoring Six Underground? That'd be awesome.

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2018-08-27 16:05:40
I figure asking here is easier than spending 50 minutes listening through the album to find it... Is the music when Rone is washing at the sink and preparing to go back out on the album? It's a cool percussive track.


Bayhem2018-08-28 14:05:36
I love that part. Powerful. Sadly, this particular piece of music is not included in the album. At least I couldn't pinpoint it. I looked for it right after seeing the movie for the first time and couldn't find anything. Shame....


Mike2018-11-02 03:29:27
I didn't realize when I posted this that Lorne has that cue on his website! Called "5m29 Preparations." I love that he lets us listen to unreleased stuff like that.

Bayhem reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-08 22:36:46
I just saw 12 Strong and then listened to the score.......And honestly, I think it's definitely NOT as good as the 13 Hours score. Lorne did fine, but what he did for 13 Hours is IMO heads and tails above the music in 12 Strong.

Exactly because of the great job he did on 13 Hours, I had really high hopes for 12 Strong. But at least to me, it was a letdown. In my book, 13 Hours is not only way better than 12 Strong, I actually consider it to be one of Lorne's best scores.


But that's me. What do you guys think? Which Balfe do you prefer - 13 Hours or 12 Strong?

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 7 || 2017-11-26 21:07:42
"Forgotten" is some nice not-Zimmer Zimmer music. lol.


Bayhem2017-11-26 21:32:36
Maybe Zimmer did more than just being a producer of this score......lol.


Andrew2017-11-26 22:05:32
Haha !!! Next people will be saying that Balfe is doing the new Season of the Crown !!!!!!


James2017-11-26 22:55:15
Well, his return or RGW is good news.

Off topic: Not wonder so many comments from me. I spent Sunday alone with nothing to do but sleep, walk in the park and watch TV.


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-26 23:03:53
Actually that score has one cue (not in the release) credited to Hans... He had some idea for it, so Lorne credited him... :)


Myles2017-11-27 07:36:20
Balfe is doing season 2 of the Crown ? Did he work on 1 ?


Bayhem2017-11-27 10:10:53
Actually that score has one cue (not in the release) credited to Hans
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Not surprised. Aside from the Bad Boys movies, Hans was always involved, one way or another, with Michael's films. After all, when it comes to the "Bay sound", no one knows it better than Hans.


Mike (OTM)2018-01-25 18:26:14
Hybrid, interesting! Do you know if Hans did any cues in Terminator: Genisys?

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-16 01:31:33
1. Hero (4:19)
2. Welcome To Benghazi (6:29)
3. Downtime’s the Worst (1:43)
4. Burn Them Out (2:44)
5. Calling Home (4:17)
6. Engage Direct (4:00)
7. The Last Resort (3:20)
8. All the Gods (4:41)
9. The Teams (3:30)
10. Forgotten (9:09)
11. All The Hells (3:47)
12. Going Home (2:15)
13. 13 Hours (2:09)
14. Tempest / Buy Back 1 (2:54) ( bonus track )
15. Dive To Oupost (1:34) ( bonus track )
16. First Wave Off The Tower (5:48) ( bonus track )
17. Morning Breaks (2:22) ( bonus track )
18. Preparations (2:40) ( bonus track )
19. Rooftop Conversation (2:00) ( bonus track )
20. Shootout Go Left (5:10) ( bonus track )
21. They’re Coming Back (3:20) ( bonus track )

Anyone know if those bonus tracks are from the score/movie??


Bayhem2018-01-16 10:34:14
Yes, I would like to know too......


1232018-01-16 15:01:54
yes of course they are...

123 reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-08 22:34:00
any news about 12 strong score release?


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-08 23:03:33
WaterTower is gonna release it.

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2017-12-23 02:23:22
@Hybrid, do you know why Lorne and not Steve wrote the score???
And how was the relation between Bay and Lorne, considering Bay is very special about the music of his movies?


Hybrid Soldier2017-12-23 08:56:37
Simple, Steve said that for this one Bay wanted Hans, plain & simple.

He got Hans producing & Lorne scoring.


Scorefan2017-12-23 17:22:18
@Hybrid, thanks. By the way, merry christmas and happy new year to you and all the team.

Compatto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-11-28 01:15:52
Dear Hybrid. Do you have any news about Lineage Eternal score by Lorne Balfe? Thank You


Pandro2017-11-30 04:25:20
I can seem some music for it on YouTube but no official release ?it sounds BIG

AndeMartin reply Replies: 10 || 2017-07-11 11:20:59
I think it is a tasteful score . The themes are subtle . If the themes were over the top it would have ruined it . Hope Bay and Balfe work again


Bayhem2017-07-11 11:57:27
I agree completely.


Philip2017-07-12 06:15:43
Not sure why Balfe gets a bashing ! 13 Hours proves why Bay used him . He didn't want something generic . I was just listening to Genius and see exactly why everyone is wanting to work with Balfe at the moment. He has matured and his music is unique to RCP. Probably the best composer single Powell to have come from Zimmer


JexMus82017-07-12 07:13:01
It was the first time a score felt real to me . Loved it and constantly listen to it whilst I work.


Edmund Meinerts2017-07-12 07:57:33
" the first time a score felt real to me"

What does that even mean?


JexMus82017-07-12 09:53:47
What that means is the soundtrack didn't make the visual experience seem over glorified like most Hollywood movies . If your a soundtrack fan then this may annoy you !! But in regards to the actual purpose , it was an equal part of the story telling .balfe has said in interviews that Bay did not want a big "Ra Ra" sounding score. Sorry you found that confusing Edmund. A subtle score was requested and it was achieved .


Andros2017-07-12 10:00:18
Totally agree with you . It has. It got BIG themes but then I'm glad it does not . If it did then it would be a bit old fashioned


rockhound2017-07-12 12:51:52
balfes score for 13 Hours is typical music for this kind of film. bay asked for nothing special. the action music is typical for bay and for this kind of war film. a unique score for this kind of film is Lone Survivor by Explosions In The Sky and Steve Jablonsky. EITS created a unique prominent sound for that film and steve delivered a prominent intense theme, that sounds not too hollywood. as i said, 13 Hours worked good in the film, but is nothing special on cd, at least for this kind of film. Lone Survivor is an interesting experience in the film and on cd, at least for my taste.


James2017-07-12 14:09:32
The goal of the score is overglorify the movie, even when it is subtle.



Peter2017-07-12 22:59:38
I really like this score and loved the film .


Bayhem2017-07-13 14:04:43
The goal of the score is overglorify the movie, even when it is subtle.
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Not sure what you mean. You mean "overglorifying" the movie as a movie (a piece of mainstream art) or "overglorifying" the story the movie tells? Whatever the case, I personally don't see anything over-the-top. Both the movie and the score are quite contained and minimalistic. Direct, to the point. Nothing bloated.

MichaelB reply Replies: 1 || 2017-07-13 05:16:02
Anybody know about Balfe's' Oats ???????? Something to do with Neill Blomkamp.


Bayhem2017-07-13 13:57:38
What is that, a movie project? First time I'm hearing about it.

Bayhem reply Replies: 23 || 2017-07-07 21:12:18
For me, this was the moment when I realized that when it comes to Balfe there's certainly more than meets the eye. He absolutely nailed it with this score. At first, I admit, I was quite skeptical...I mean Jablonsky and Bay work so well together - and the results are always great - that the idea of another composer "breaking them up" was kind of a downer for me. But in this case I was happy to be wrong. I love not only the movie, but Balfe' score as well. "Forgotten" is a freakin' masterpice. Also, it's nice to see that the score is ALL Lorne Balfe. I don't think there were additional composers. But then again, it's MV/RC so who knows.....Bottom line is: the score is awesome. Well done, Balfe.


AndrewM2017-07-08 07:09:31
I have to agree - Bay took a risk and employed Balfe and it laid off . For once , he didn't end up with temp music . I hope Bay works with Balfe more often . They made a great soundtrack the same way zimmer and Nolan has done


LRusjas2017-07-08 10:21:16
I'm freshly listening to it again after a year and it was a pretty good score . bay should work with Balfe more often for an original score


Bayhem2017-07-09 09:28:43
I agree with both of you. Bay should indeed work more with Balfe. And I think he will, considering that he is officially done with Transformers (and according to recent interviews he wants to go back to more grounded, R-rated material). While we're at it, I just wanna say I still have hopes that we will see another Bay/Rabin collaboration. I know Rabin is touring and doesn't do much scoring these days, but it would be really, really cool if he gets to work with Bay at least one more time.


nfo2017-07-09 10:34:17
Bay and Jablonsky the better Team. Lorne Balfe is one of the worst composer. only good for additional music. a hans zimmer minion not more!


Hybrid Soldier2017-07-09 10:41:33
If you know what Lorne actually wrote for the Transformers movies, I wonder what you would say lol...


Bayhem2017-07-09 11:14:57
Lorne Balfe is one of the worst composer. only good for additional music
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So, he's one of the worst, yet he's good for additional music. You do know that "additional music" might mean some amazing cues, right? Wouldn't surprise me if some of your favorite MV/RC tracks are actually done by Balfe and you don't even know it. Look, you have an opinion on Balfe and that's fine. You don't like him, that's fine. But learn to express your opinions properly. For example, I don't like Michael Giacchino as a composer, but I never just go 'He's a hack, one of the worst'. No, I can actually explain respectfully and in a normal way why I don't like his work. But simply spewing stuff like "He's da worst, he sucks..' without providing a more detailed explanation gets you really, really close to troll-land, my friend.


James2017-07-09 14:45:25
"Back up" of Batman Begins and maybe Inception's "Dream within a dream" are my faves.


Mike (OTM)2017-07-09 16:15:57
The Moody Bruce suites from TDKR tell me Back Up wasn't really Lorne Balfe...not in any substantial way. Hans re-used the entire cue in those suites, telling me that one was 99% him.


James2017-07-09 17:25:29
Yes. I know.
All these ideas are primarily by Hans. Only the new arranges and some or many additions are provided by Balfe. But it's half still his.


rockhound2017-07-09 18:34:23
even if jablonsky would have composed the score for this movie, the final result would have been the same, just with a typical jablonsky theme instead of a balfe theme. this music style is typical michael bay style since Bad Boys II. it doesnt matter which rcp composer he hires, the score would sound as always. the score was effective and the theme was nice, but all in all a cliché melody. bay should hire marco beltrami next time, just to see how this music will work with bays visual style and action direction. i can imagine, the Die Hard 5 sound would work perfectly.


Meta2017-07-09 19:34:24
Decent score. Bay should do war films instead of Transformers films from now on...


Bayhem2017-07-10 09:05:18
it doesnt matter which rcp composer he hires, the score would sound as always.
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Not true. The Pain and Gain score certainly doesn't sound like previous Bay-MV/RC collaborations. It is quite experimental, and I bet that some people will never even guess that it's done by an MV/RC composer.

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bay should hire marco beltrami
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I was a huge fan of Beltrami when he started with Scream in '96. His first few scores were amazing. But after that I honestly lost interest. With few exceptions - like Logan - I find his newer scores quite bland and certainly not memorable. But that's me.


Miguel2017-07-10 14:14:49
Bayhem I don't agree with the versatile comment. I have not heard Steve write anything like Churchill, Penguins or Genius ?


Bayhem2017-07-10 16:02:52
Miguel, I respectfully disagree. I have the entire Jablonsky-composed Desperate Housewives score. Play any track from that score right after a Transformers track for example, and you will never guess that both scores are done by the same composer. That says a lot, and Jablonsky deserves major credit for these types of accomplishments. And that's what I meant by a "versatile composer". It's a fact, not my opinion. People often make the mistake of focusing only on his big, blockbuster scores, while he displays his talent in other, smaller, but equally effective scores. Also, Steve did The Sims 3 score which is a lovely album that really has nothing to do with his bigger, more popular scores. So the fact that he jumps so successfuly from smaller-scale, more intimate and experimental scores to some of the biggest, most bombastic scores in Hollywood......well, there's nothing else to add really. It all speaks for itself. And I get it, Balfe is the "hot composer" right now, it's cool to like him (and hate him, judging by some of the comments here), but at the same time we have to be realistic and we don't have to knock other composers down just because we want to pimp out the "hottest" composer at the moment. Besides, Jablonsky's got nothing to prove. He's much more experienced than Balfe, he works a lot, he has a pretty solid fanbase, his music is everywhere (Olympics, trailers, 4th of July celebrations...) and for some people, incuding me, he is without a doubt the new Hans Zimmer. So he's doing just fine. And when people talk about a certain composer - doesn't matter who - they have to take into consideration all of his scores, not just the biggest and most popular ones. Because very often it's the smallest creation that really displays the talent.


Miguel2017-07-10 16:16:52
Bayhem, you make some good points . BUT The fact you can play transformers track then a Despirate housewife's track and not know it was the same composer isn't actually a good thing !!! Shows that there is no connecting tissue. Balfe's music definatly has a style and class . Churchill and Genius have been some of the best scores this year . Regarding steve being the new Hans Zimmer.... not sure about that....there is ONLY ONE Hans Zimmer !!!


Bayhem2017-07-10 16:59:20
BUT The fact you can play transformers track then a Despirate housewife's track and not know it was the same composer isn't actually a good thing !!! Shows that there is no connecting tissue
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Well, I don't know...on one hand there are people who say that it is certainly not good when a composer sounds the same. Some are harsher and call these composers "hacks". On the other hand, there are people like you, who say that there is nothing wrong with having a "connectiong tissue", a similar sound. I guess it's true: we people, are hard to please. Still, fact is that Jablonsky is not just Mister Big, Bombastic Score. He's just as good with smaller, more contained scores. And that was my point. By the way, just for the record I'm saying it yet again, I like Lorne Balfe and I like him a lot. Just because I like Jablonsky more doesn't mean I'm underestimating Balfe and his talent.


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Regarding steve being the new Hans Zimmer.... not sure about that....there is ONLY ONE Hans Zimmer !!!
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I didn't mean it literally of course. You know what I mean. Let's put it this way: the guy, aside from Hans, who very successfuly provides the classic MV/RC sound we all love, the guy who can develop that sound even more in the future, and the guy who can best represent Remote Control if Hans retires.....is, in my opinion, Steve Jablonsky. Hell, on this very site Steve has more Facebook likes than any other MV/RC composer (aside from Hans of course). Not that this is the most important thing, but still, the guy is without a doubt one of the biggest and most well-known MV/RC composers. And even if most people don't agree that he is "the next Zimmer" I'm sure they can agree that he is, at least, a strong candidate.


rockhound2017-07-10 18:19:12
my opinion still is, that it doesnt matter, which rcp composer would have scored this specific movie. its an michael bay action movie and these movies have the same sound since Bad Boys II. Pain And Gain is no action movie and no typical bay movie, although it has some typical bay aspects like cinematography. 13 Hours could have been also composed by jablonsky. except the theme there would have been no difference between balfe and jablonsky. i like balfe and jablonsky, but this score is no masterpiece. its a functional score in the movie, but nothing more. the theme could have been way more intense and dramatic. listen to zimmers Leave No Behind Theme and djawadis Medal Of Honor Theme or elfmans The Kingdom theme. these are themes, which have an impact to the audience. these themes move me as an audience and these themes are the heart of Black Hawk Down, Medal Of Honor and The Kingdom. 13 Hours has no such strong theme. it doesnt move me. i dont need a tear jerker theme, but the theme should at least tell something. also the action is not exciting enough. its functional, but adds not much to the scenes. for me its an ok score, but i find scores like Black Hawk Down, Medal Of Honor (i know its a game) and also The Kingdom are way more interesting and intense than 13 Hours.


Bayhem2017-07-10 18:49:06
rockhound, fair enough. I see your point. Yes, the 13 Hours score could've been more intense and dramatic, but from what I've seen and read about the movie as a whole, Bay went out with a different approach. He kept it all real, raw, street-level, to the point. And it's the same thing with the score. He could've easily said: "I want an epic, sweeping score", but clearly he wanted something much more subtle and contained. Kinda like the Bourne franchise. And I like that they did that. Plus, Bay already did a big war movie with a big, sweeping score - Pearl Harbor. I love the Pearl Harbor score, I think it's one of Hans' best scores - and it's certainly intense and dramatic. There are some great themes that definitely move (emotionally) the audience. But clearly he didn't want to do the same thing with 13 Hours. That's why we have a much more measured and subtle score. So it's not that Balfe can't create a military score with really powerful and strong themes, it's just what Bay wanted. And the composer listens to the director.


rockhound2017-07-10 19:29:41
i agree with you, that we got a score, which michael bay wanted and balfe had to deliver, although i also know, that balfe can do better. especially themes. in my opinion a more prominent, intense theme could have made a better connection between audience and characters, at least for my taste. because that helped in BHD and The Kingdom. i know bay wanted to focus on the attack, but a more intense music could have made the audience to care more about the characters. thats what made elfmans guitar theme in The Kingdom so great. i think bay made a good choice with not using a patriotic hollywood score, but a better theme could have made the difference and could have also hide bays lack of characterization.


James2017-07-10 22:12:22
Since you mentioned...

Jablonsky 27,000 likes
Balfe 30,000 likes
Zimmer 2,000,000 likes

Lol


James2017-07-10 22:15:48
Junkie Xl 125,000
Ramin 46,000

Xl is the next Hans Zimmer

*Just kidding*


Bayhem2017-07-11 08:55:40
James, I said "on this very site Steve has more Facebook likes than any other MV/RC composer (aside from Hans of course)." Clearly I meant the hans-zimmer.com site, not the actual Facebook site. Look at the composers profiles here. Steve has 40 likes, Lorne has 26. I used this site as an examples, because its users are MV/RC fans and, as one could expect, they more or less represent what the entire MV/RC fandom thinks. Again, this was just an example that I used in connection to my opinion about Steve's popularity among fans. No one is forced to agree with my opinion. By the way, just for the record, Steve has more likes on IMDb as well. Junkie XL has 51 likes, Balfe has 34 likes and Jablonsky has 213 likes. And IMDb is actually a film-related site. Just like hans-zimmer.com is a film score/film composer site. While Facebook is a social media and in many cases being popular there has little to do with actual talent. Example: Kim Kardashian has 30 million likes.


Bayhem2017-07-11 09:03:46
rockhound, fair enough. But hey, better theme or not, people seem to like the 13 Hours score overall. Which is what matters at the end of the day. Come to think of it, I haven't heard or read a strictly negative opinion on that score. Which is good news for Balfe and his fans.

PedMendos reply Replies: 1 || 2017-07-10 05:59:26
Rockhound - no offensive - but this score is far more intellectual and sophisticated than anything Jablonsky has ever written. I totally see why Bat used used Balfe. He doesn't want the usual generic music. Really hope they work together on more movies


Bayhem2017-07-10 08:54:54
Can't say I agree with that. Balfe is good and I like his work. But in my opinion Steve is overall a better, and certainly more established composer. He's been in the business for a longer period of time, he's more experienced, he actually has a distinctive style of his own, and we should be thanking him for using Balfe as an additional composer on the first two Transformers films, which in turn introduced him to Bay. Now, as I already said, I like the 13 Hours score and I like it a lot. But come on: it's not exactly, as you put it, "intellectual". That is praising it a bit too much. And again, I'm saying that as a huge fan of the score. Balfe is delivering and I'm glad he gets to work on projects with big directors like Bay. But I don't think he's better than Jablonsky. For one, Jablonsky is - at least at this point - a more versatile composer: he scores horror films, broad comedies, documentaries, TV shows and huge blockbusters. Even Zimmer pointed that out in an interview from few years ago. Not a lot composers can so easily score both Desperate Housewives and Transformers. But Jablonsky did it and he did great. And by the way, I still think that his Pain and Gain score is one of the best MV/RC scores of the last few years. Yes, it's not a popular opinion, but that's how I feel. Steve clearly wanted to do something different and he was willing to experiment. And he did a solid job.

-O.so reply Replies: 7 || 2016-01-20 21:46:33
Just all the titles on Youtube belongs. I really have to say: Waste of time! Lorne Balfe copies only! The worst RC Composer! I hope this loser not composed the music for Transformers 5 or another movie. This man can do nothing! A title sounds good the rest is crap!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-20 21:53:21
"A title sounds good" !


IMPROVEMENT ! lol


-O.so2016-01-20 21:55:43
Shut Up! Website Loserboy


Solidsnoke2016-01-20 22:17:36
Cute


-O.so2016-01-20 22:22:19
Thank You *-*


Brent2016-01-21 03:36:16
Okay, this is now just down right getting ridiculous. You really don't have anything else to do but waste time complaining on a website without giving any reason as to why said composer is the "worst?" Get a life bro...


Prott2016-01-21 23:38:17
Obvious troll is obvious. Let's not feed it ... :-)


Bayhem2017-07-09 09:20:25
It eventually happens to all successful artists. Once you reach a certain level of success, the haters and the trolls show up. It's inevitable. Whether you are director, actor, composer, writer, it doesn't matter. If you succeed and you succeed big, you gonna attract haters and trolls. Good news is that most of the people who hate and troll are really not that smart or educated. As is the case with this Balfe "hater" here.

Scorefan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-01-31 16:24:06
@Hybrid, how was the work between Michael Bay and Lorne Balfe? I mean, for what i read before, Bay is hard in terms of music. Lorne knew how to create the music? Or Bay gave him directions about the musical direction? Thanks


Trumus2017-02-01 07:47:51
@Hybrid also - why did he use Lorne and not Steve? Either way it was a great choice and ended up not be generic


David2017-02-01 08:19:44
Probably busy with Ninja Turtles 2 and Deepwater Horizon?


Andres2017-02-01 09:57:09
Glad he didn't use Steve: the music was better and better fitting the film
Than generic music


Bayhem2017-07-09 09:11:52
Steve was indeed busy with a couple of other projects. If he was available I'm 100% sure that Bay would've used him instead of Balfe. Having said that, Balfe did an awesome job with the score, so it's a win-win for all.

Clint reply Replies: 2 || 2016-05-30 03:39:03
The soundtrack is missing the main theme.
In the movie, GRS is fastly approaching the embassy while this song plays in the background.
That song is also played at other key moments, but it's not on the soundtrack.
It's a huge disappointment that this soundtrack is incomplete.


Kevin2016-09-02 08:46:13
Thank you!! Someone else who noticed this


Bioscope2016-09-04 06:07:58
i am starting to worry that lorne is becoming a lazy jingle writer and refraining from tying strings together thematically, and it's a pity.

Mathew89 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-04-12 18:11:33
When will you update Lorne´s site here? I would like to know on what he is working

vin reply Replies: 2 || 2016-03-24 16:52:22
I cannot find the trailer (#2) track, maybe is it unreleased or made for the trailer only?


Ds2016-03-24 17:43:46
The track is a bit different, but the main theme is heard in the middle section of "Forgotten" :-)


vin2016-03-24 20:44:32
As i imagined... many thanks!

jjluffy reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-29 10:39:00
Hello, can we hope a CD version?


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-29 10:44:03
Nope....

Paul reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-26 10:10:19
On Lorne's website there is some unreleased music from this score...


Lejti2016-01-26 16:31:19
Thanks for the tip!

-O.so reply Replies: 8 || 2016-01-16 11:43:30
As you all noticed! No one wants to publish this poor score.


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-16 12:55:51
SHUT...UP...!!!


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-16 16:16:34
Yeah you see he says he's objective & all, but he has never ever commented on something that wasn't a LB score... :D


Filip2016-01-16 16:29:22
Are you serious? -O.so stop with that shit. You probably don´t have ears, did you listen at least one track from Lorne? Go and listen AC 3 score now or get out


-O.so2016-01-17 00:34:52
I know for what L.B. still stands!
Loser Boy

The truth hurts, Lorne Balfe

:-))))


rtiger2016-01-17 05:45:32
I loved the score. Saw the movie.
Gives honor where honor is due,
AND the Score is perfect.


-O.so2016-01-17 16:02:53
The Score is perfect????

Please clean out the ears


Edmund Meinerts2016-01-17 22:26:12
-O.so...here's an idea...why don't you tell us WHY you don't like the music? That way you're actually contributing to the discussion and don't come across as quite so much of a petulant child.


Solidsnoke2016-01-20 22:20:10
O.so this is an Hans Zimmer fansite and not Kanye West's fansite, don't click anywhere dude ;)

unnamed reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-20 02:44:28
And Spotify too.


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-20 16:58:37
And Amazon !

zclub3 reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-19 15:46:12
Where can you actually buy the soundtrack?


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-19 19:49:14
It's on iTunes now !

marty reply Replies: 0 || 2016-01-18 15:56:20
wonderful score, good job, Lorne! 4 stars

Frenchans reply Replies: 1 || 2016-01-18 12:40:42
Good job from Lorne Balfe even if he has still a lack of inspiration. Maybe he should take a break :D

Best tracks in my opinion:
-Hero (similar to "The Burning Bush")
-Calling Home
-Forgotten
-Going Home

Hybrid, what does it mean that Hans Zimmer is the score producer? I thought he has overseen everything.


Hero2016-01-18 14:46:02
my thought aswell. but i have to say, that the "action" cues are truly horrible. sorry to say, but it's just noises. action cues can have some melodies aswell.

the other tracks, which are silent, are very beautiful and emotional. best tracks for me:

- Hero
- Downtime's The Worst
- Calling Home
- Forgotten
- All The Hells
- Going Home

The cue "Hero" is really a shameful copy of "Burning Bush" ^^. That's why i can enjoy it as a melody, but copying it in that way is not a good move.

CardosoNaval reply Replies: 0 || 2016-01-18 12:34:15

I didn't identify the song playing at the beginning of the trailer. Anyone know if it is part of the soundtrack or is like Dean Vallentine or something like that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPcle0WZF5A&ab_channel=Param ountPicturesInternational

mac reply Replies: 6 || 2016-01-18 03:15:34
Sooooo...When does this come out on iTunes?


JamesT2016-01-18 04:21:03
Have not seen the film yet. Despite the ongoing exhausting, unwelcome, and continuous rating on another individual, this score is two things:

1) One of Lorne's best, period
2) One of my favorites

Can only image how well it serves the film! Curious how much stuff is absent from the release.


JamesT2016-01-18 04:21:42
I meant ranting, lol


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-18 08:46:49
A lot, there's basically around 2 hours of music in the film, plus like half an hour of suites, which are featured in this release...


Hybrid Soldier2016-01-18 08:49:13
As for the big retailers like iTunes, Amazon & co, it'll come...


Brent2016-01-18 08:50:40
Just came back from a showing. The score actually serves the film very well, much better than I anticipated. Other than the final action scene (which in this case, could be a short film in of itself, as it's extremely long), is more suspenseful and emotional than typical Michael Bay bombast. Don't get me wrong, though. There is still giant drums and brass, which in this case, is a good thing. ;)


Brent2016-01-18 08:59:44
And, I will add, even though I still wish Jablonsky had gotten the job, Lorne did a fantastic job!

Ds reply Replies: 0 || 2016-01-17 16:26:35
I'm impressed by this soundtrack. Very detailed, subtle even in the mayhem tracks. Beautiful mix as well. I feel I'll be listening to that one for a long time. Congrats to Lorne Balfe!

Munchowsky reply Replies: 0 || 2016-01-17 09:50:17
After 2 listenings on Deezer, I find this score very pleasant. Nice themes. Nice Sounds. It seems to fit well with the kind of motion pictures Michael Bay did. Isn't that the main point of a motion picture soundtrack ?

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