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Shame like every other Jablonsky release, the recording sessions have no credits whatsoever.Accurate?<br><br>01. 1m01 Opening – Meet Mickey (2:29)<br>02. 1m01s The Hills Of California (2:35)<br>03. 1m02 Save the Blonde (3:13)<br>04. 1m03 Bathtub Oath (0:52)<br>05. 1m04 Fire – You’re Talking To God (1:39)<br>06. 1m05s No Baby, Nobody But You (2:48)<br>07. 1m06s Mr Five By Five (3:13)<br>08. 1m07s Perdido (3:20)<br>09. 1m08s Early Autumn (3:30)<br>10. 2m09 War for the Soul of LA (1:22)<br>11. 2m11 Going After Mickey (0:56)<br>12. 2m12s Mr. Fool (2:57)<br>13. 2m13s Chicken Shack Boogie (Part 2) (2:56)<br>14. 2m13s Jelly Wiggle Boogie (Part 3) (2:29)<br>15. 2m13s Kiss Kiss (Part 1) (2:16)<br>16. 2m14 Choosing The Squad (2:47)<br>17. 2m18 Cohen Threatens Reporter (0:22)<br>18. 2m19s Amado Mio (2:38)<br>19. 2m20 Cohen and Dragna (1:35)<br>20. 2m21 When Do We Start (1:01)<br>21. 2m21a When Do We Start (0:29)<br>22. 2m22s Bull Fiddle Boogie (2:37)<br>23. 2m23 Crashing the Casino (1:13)<br>24. 2m25s So Tired (2:58)<br>25. 3m26 Pete Killed (3:53)<br>26. 3m28 Burbank Jail Breakout (2:29)<br>27. 3m29 Dragna Killed (0:54)<br>28. 3m30 Planting the Wire (2:15)<br>29. 3m32 Car Chase (3:20)<br>30. 4m33 You Know the Drill (1:05)<br>31. 4m35s A Little Bird Told Me (2:40)<br>32. 4m37s Route 66 (2:36)<br>33. 4m38s Big Jay’s Hop (2:55)<br>34. 4m39s Blow Blow Blow (2:06)<br>35. 4m41 Don’t Go (1:31)<br>36. 4m41a Boxing Video (0:55)<br>37. 4m42 Identifying the Wire (0:59)<br>38. 4m43 Chica Boom Chic Score Insert (Part 2) (0:37)<br>39. 4m43a Everybody Out (0:25)<br>40. 4m43s Chica Chica Boom Chic (Part 1) (3:01)<br>41. 4m44 Boogie In the Front (2:33)<br>42. 4m44a Cohen Beats the Cop (0:34)<br>43. 4m46 Coordinating The Response (2:21)<br>44. 4m46a I Need You On the Wire Tonight (0:34)<br>45. 4m47 Cliftons (1:10)<br>46. 4m48s Apricot Flowers Blossoming (Part 1) (2:52)<br>47. 4m48s The Evening Primrose (Part 2) (3:20)<br>48. 5m49 Keeler Killed (0:42)<br>49. 5m49a Chinatown (4:23)<br>50. 5m49b Drive By – Grace – Jack’s Escape – Keeler’s Dead (3:05)<br>51. 5m50 Connie Lives (1:56)<br>52. 5m51 Train Station Goodbye (1:34)<br>53. 5m52 Grace Is Alive (1:07)<br>54. 5m53 Let’s Finish It (1:41)<br>55. 6m55 Ole Buttermilk Sky (2:17)<br>56. 6m57 Serving the Warrant (7:36)<br>57. 6m58 Fist Fight – The End (4:13)<br>58. 6m59 Bless You (For the Good That’s In You) (2:55)<br>59. 6m61 End Credit Score Suite (5:22)Where can I find this?been listening to this score for a week now and i am going to wait a little more before putting a comment on it here... but there's something else i have been saying for a while now. let's stop associating scores with movies and start seeing them as a work of art in their own rights. (albeit inspired by movies)<br><br>people are here complaining about the movie that it didn't speak to them. and then i have the feeling that they project their disappointment on the soundtrack. but both pieces of art co-exist and not depend on each other. i, for example, seldom watch any of these movies. but i have listened to their soundtracks and love them.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before... but we need one for this one. it's very clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.<br><br>also i never asked for an extended CD before but we need one for DP. it's clear that tracks like gap and coda were definitely shortened.There's nothing unique about those choirs, standard East European chorus stuff mixed with Johansson. Check out Debbie Wiseman's Warriors from 2000 and you'll get a much more elaborate version of this music.
I cant say that this chorus reminds me of anything I have heard Zimmer done before. And I have played all his scores to death.I agree that Gap is the best track. My main complain with this score is that it feels that Zimmer composed it on autopilot. For me those choirs sounded too much to Electro's Theme in TASM. Is too standard and has very few remarkable moments. The movie itself lacks of personality and the score is part of that problem. I think they just wanted "dark" and hired Zimmer for making his dark ostitatos.I thought I read somewhere Armageddon was the last bay film that hgw was a part of<br>===============================<br><br><br>Well, Bay and HGW were not exactly best friends during Armageddon. Bay is very demanding and tough. HGW is also not a shy dude. He is an opinionated guy who stands his ground, as you can tell by his interviews. He reminds me of Mancina…..He's not afraid to speak up and have his opinion heard. And just like Mancina, his relationship with the Bay/Bruckheimer family seemed to be...….a bit complicated. Yet, he worked on Bad Boys 2 and Deja Vu. Now, it is possible - tho not likely - that Bay didn't even know that HGW did some work on BB2. Maybe it was just a favor for Steve and Trevor. Under the table, so to speak..... Personally, I don't believe that's the case. Whatever the truth, this is a great example of how different those composers are. Trevor and Steve work great with Bay/Bruckheimer and they always deliver great results. While composers like HGW and Mancina have problems with more demanding filmmakers. And apparently they don't even like action cinema. I don't necessary blame them, even though Mancina certainly didn't do himself any favors by trashing the genre and the people who back in the 90's gave him a shot to prove himself as a composer.Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.<br><br>Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.<br><br>Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams. <br><br>You fools, the tracklist was but a scam. The tracks simply wanted to EAT you.
Yeah, while this does have a great deal more substance than most of the work Hans has done the past few years, I struggle to say it's a genuinely *good* score.<br><br>I mean, within the first minute I'm reminded of Dunkirk, then we get a pretty standard Zimmer/Balfe buildup we've heard a million times since Inception... and it doesn't get hugely better from there.<br><br>I will definitely give Zimmer credit for the unique and genuinely creative use of female choir in some of the cues, though.Not to disagree for its own sake, but I think Powell has been up there with the greatest film composers since the first HTTYD score. I just wish he'd take on more projects.Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.I got confirmation HGW only wrote Haitian House Shootout (with the help of Mel Wesson). The same ideas were edited into the shorter cue Zoepound, so I'd say you can add this one to his credits.<br><br>Credits on IMDB mentions Paul Linford on the Main Titles.<br><br>Trevor Morris helped Jablonsky on the Ferrari Causeway Chase.<br>Jablonsky worked, for sure, on the Hallway and Helicopter Inserts.<br><br>100% sure Rabin worked on Tapia, Tapia Pissed Off, The Stuff, Wiretap Results, Ocean, Dead Bodies #2, Heart to Heart, Breaking Into Mortuary, Syd's Cover Is Blown, Tapia Has Syd (without Inserts), Prep for Tapia Sneak, Cuba Chase, Guantanamo (those tracks are on the Rabin only-bootleg).
Hoping for the Rocketman score to get a release. Loved the score in the movie. Any updates on this ?Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.<br><br>HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid<br><br>HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief<br><br>HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers<br><br>A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!Just finished watching the movie, and while it's not much more than fine, it's sure as hell better than every other Star Wars movie that's come out since The Force Awakens (minus the ugly fucking visuals). <br><br>However the score is absolutely amazing. Powell's adaptation and development of the new Han Solo theme from Williams is flawless, the callbacks to other themes from the series are mostly appropriate (and good on him for not using the Force theme once!) and Powell's original material is fresh and exciting in a way that even Williams himself hasn't been able to pull off with the new films. <br><br>Powell might very well be up there with the greatest film composers if he continues to produce work like this from now on (which from HTTYD 3 seems very possible!)Some of the synth work throughout is definitely like Spirit. The first couple minutes of Coda are one example.It's only suggestions based on about few dozen listened scores of those composers.<br>By the way known that HGW was part of it.

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  1. Siberian Overture (2:56)
    Henry Jackman
  2. Lagos (2:10)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery, Alex Belcher, Jack Dolman
  3. Consequences (2:22)
    Henry Jackman
  4. Ancestral Call (2:37)
    Henry Jackman
  5. Zemo (3:09)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  6. The Tunnel (3:51)
    Henry Jackman
  7. Celestial Bodies (1:44)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  8. Boot Up (5:16)
    Henry Jackman
  9. A New Recruit (1:47)
    Henry Jackman
  10. Stepping Up (1:59)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  11. Standoff (4:01)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  12. Civil War (4:26)
    Henry Jackman
  13. Larger Than Life (3:40)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  14. Catastrophe (2:36)
    Henry Jackman
  15. Revealed (5:38)
    Henry Jackman
  16. Making Amends (1:34)
    Henry Jackman
  17. Fracture (4:00)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  18. Clash (3:54)
    Henry Jackman
  19. Closure (5:32)
    Henry Jackman, Halli Cauthery
  20. Cap's Promise (3:46)
    Henry Jackman
  21. Adagio (2:18)
    Henry Jackman
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Michael Baker reply Replies: 0 || 2019-04-29 09:55:29
I liked Henry Jackman's Captain America scores for what they were and how they worked in the film. Especially Civil War. But I can't say I was mad when Alan Silvestri definitively brought his own Cap theme back for Endgame, even if it was a copy and paste job in its big appearances.

I still think Jackman should have modernized Alan Silvestri's theme while keeping the tune. At any rate, to me, the return to the original theme for Endgame gave everything a sense of closure, and it was well done.

Meta reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-19 16:26:22
May I?

With the exception of the 2-note "Aliens" theme for Zemo,

the entire score's themes can be heard in the actual "Cap's Promise" track. That little ditty pieces together all the different themes used throughout out the movie. Just have a listen yourself and you can hear them.

is it brilliant? Meh...I dont care for the simple themes - they dont gel with me - but hey its effective AND compartmentalized.

Maggs2016-12-26 19:55:14
I heard the 2 note. Kept humming it through the movie trying to figure it out. The scene with the other assassin's in tubes reminded me of Aliens and it all clicked!

Frank reply Replies: 3 || 2016-10-02 01:36:36
Hybrid, will they release Henry's score for The Birth of A Nation?

Hybrid Soldier2016-10-02 10:07:24
I talked to Henry's team, since Birth & Jack Reacher 2 are getting out very soon and still no word on releases, and apparently it's in the works right now for both... :)

Frank2016-10-03 06:22:05
I asked cuz I saw a sneak screening and the music is very different from Henry's usual style. Hope the release won't be another 12 Years A Slave.

Hybrid Soldier2016-10-11 00:30:20
From what I gathered both scores are supposed to come out digitally at the end of the week...

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-04 03:32:35
Hybrid, is Jackman in discussion for any other Marvel projects? And is there any reason why the Russos didn't pick him for Infinity War? Was he even asked?

Brent2016-10-04 05:04:19
Good question... I've been wondering this myself...

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 2 || 2016-09-11 21:20:20
Anything on the complete score yet?

Cameron2016-09-12 04:27:09
Nothing yet. These things usually never come within a year of the film's release.

Joseph Solano2016-09-26 00:29:34
@Camerone SHIT!!!

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 3 || 2016-09-20 17:32:31
Very glad he is composing the score for Kong:Skull Island.

Macejko2016-09-20 22:44:35
I'm not.

Everan2016-09-21 17:27:08
You never are lol

Edmund Meinerts2016-09-21 18:07:38
Only for Djawadi.

Chimmy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-08-07 18:42:36
Can anyone have a solo of the theme played during black panther scene and also at the very end of post credits showing wakanda

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-28 13:04:13
Composers details !

Mike2016-06-28 15:36:15
As I suspected, a lot more "solo Jackman" credits here than in Winter Soldier.

Aman reply Replies: 3 || 2016-05-24 23:38:21
Hey guys what's the song when Steve and Nat are hugging??

Jay the Dinosaur2016-05-27 02:44:52
It's apart of the complete score.

Brent2016-05-27 04:21:11
It's very similar to "An Old Friend" from the Winter Soldier soundtrack.

Aman2016-06-19 15:36:42
And it's pat of which score. I've heard the soundtrack a million times and I'm still having trouble figuring it out

Brent reply Replies: 5 || 2016-06-07 04:12:25
So, it's been reported by "" that he'll return for the Avengers: Infinity War movies. Does anyone know if this is this true, or simply a hoax? Because, I may be in the absolute minority here, but I'd love to see Jackman get the gig.

Saurabh2016-06-07 08:13:46
I think Jackman did ok but Silvestri's return is exciting.

trent easton navarro2016-06-07 20:52:22
Considering it's Silvesti's official website, it's obviously not a hoax. I'm a big Silvestri fan, but besides the main theme, I wasn't that impressed with his score for The Avengers. But the same goes for Brian Tyler, love his work, but didn't like his score for AoU.

Everan2016-06-07 22:28:51
It's gonna be a whopper!! Can't wait, the Avengers theme and the action music is one of my all-time faves.

Edmund Meinerts2016-06-07 23:35:32
It is Silvestri's site, but the source they quote is nothing more or less than good ol' trusty IMDB, so I don't consider this "confirmed" yet or anything. Wait and see what happens I'd suggest.

Still, I wouldn't mind Silvestri returning. His Avengers score isn't the best, but he's been kind of MIA for a while, at least on large-scale projects, and I miss his voice.

Mike2016-06-08 16:43:46
Thematic consistency within the Avengers movies? I'll take it! I wasn't the biggest fan of the first Avengers score either, but hey, if Marvel is finally taking steps to at least cement the Avengers films together musically, that's good by me.

Johnny reply Replies: 7 || 2016-05-15 22:27:08
Everyone who is reviewing this thing factually, who pretends to know what they're talking about makes me and many others cringe.

I mean for Christs sake, just say whether you like it or not. Maybe mention a few tracks and what you sections of it you like. Don't try to analytically deconstruct the compositions down using big musical terms you looked up on google. Cringe level is beyond 10 right now.

Paul2016-05-15 22:29:56
I actually agree with this

John2016-05-15 22:30:47
its the internet man, what do you expect? lol it is kinda cringe though

Anonymous2016-05-15 22:41:53
LOL, you're not wrong, but some people feel the need to just make huge reviews on a comments page where you don't need to log on also when they say thing is objectively bad and they dont realize that its all opinions lol

mi2016-05-16 05:46:43
"I mean for Christs sake, just say whether you like it or not."

Why do you get to set the terms for the discussion?

It'd be a pretty boring comments section if we all just said "I like it" or "I don't like it" - which is ultimately, sure, all it comes down to.

Okay, you can't "reason" someone into liking or disliking a piece of music. That doesn't mean it's impossible to de-construct a score. Believe it or not, not all opinions are equal, even when discussing subjective topics.

No one cares about our opinions on a stupid comments section and that's the way it should be. So what's the point in taking these stupid moral high ground positions - "it's all just opinions!!" - and?????? Why not actually offer something to the discussion.

I found the score, and the film, fairly forgettable for the record. I might be getting Marvel'd-out because I did enjoy the last one.

Juanito2016-05-17 02:21:31
@mi I feel like your entire paragraph was a straw man argument

The person who wrote the top wrote you can write about the sections you like. I think he was more talking about people who try to sound like they've majored in music theory.

anyways, i personally found the soundtrack, pretty bad imo, only track i enjoyed was clash because of its connection to the scene. the movie was pretty bad too tbh fam.

Spence922016-05-20 03:55:15
Sorry, Johnny. As a musician/composer I personally find simple "like it/dislike it" to be summaries that don't quite do justice to the heart of the music. Music is more than emotional expression, there is technical prowess and thought that goes into it, especially in film scoring where the music is specifically designed to influences the audiences emotions in parallel to the visual story. It's fun to analysis why a composer did this or that, what he thinking was. Besides just, "I liked this part because I felt things."

I would argue that to simply say, "I like it/I dislike it" while fine as an opinion, doesn't totally get into the nitty gritty about what about the music makes you enjoy it. Thus eliminating any kind of friendly conversation of debate.
For example, I did like this score, but I personally found Zemo's theme didn't quite fit the character, to me. Someone will no doubt disagree, thus allowing a conversation to begin about whether or not they thought the theme fit Zemo. This will then build each of our knowledge and understanding about themes for a villian or antihero and the musicality to apply to each. I also would have loved to hear more themes from previous MCU films, but having had conversations about that with people, I've actually learned more about the business/legal end of the Marvel/Disney music spectrum that I didn't know and have applied into my own work and musical knowledge.

Friendly conversation and debate is healthy. It makes you think about your own opinions and lets you empathize with someone else's opinions. Something a simple "I like it/dislike it" can't quite achieve, because it doesn't dig deep enough. Am I saying, one should feel shame for saying "I like it/diskile it?" Not at all. But you shouldn't make those who do want to have these debates, feel bad about having those debates. Some people like simple analysis, some like deeper. Unfortunately, on the internet, debate turns into mud slinging arguments very easily, but if the debaters verbalizes their opinions properly, then you might find less aggression and more learning through shared experience. Which I personally quite enjoy and grow from.

Edmund Meinerts2016-05-20 14:18:37
Great post, Spence. I concur 100%.

Captain Deadpool reply Replies: 2 || 2016-05-18 17:52:50
Am I the only one who noticed a musical cue for Ant-Man ?
It can be heard at 1:54 in "Standoff", at 2:17 and 4:06 in "Civil War" and at the beginning of "Larger than Life"

ZekeWars0102016-05-19 02:17:47
I hear it slightly. But the cue at the beginning of "Larger Than Life" is a variation of Spider-Man's Theme.

Edmund Meinerts2016-05-19 12:28:45
Isn't that just this score's new Cap theme?

ZekeWars010 reply Replies: 6 || 2016-05-02 17:58:54
I heard the entire soundtrack and I have a lot of things to say.
The Positives:
1. Jackman cutting down on the electronic elements and focusing more on a good old-fashioned orchestral style. It resembles his work in X-Men: First Class than The Winter Soldier.

2. The new themes are pretty damn good. The themes for Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Zemo are fantastic. I have complaints, but I’ll save that for later.

3. The Civil War Theme is borderline perfection.

4. The action cues don’t drag on, nor do they go by very quickly.

5. Even if they don’t appear often, I love the little nods to the Winter Soldier and Cap themes.

The Negatives:
1. Tracks such as “Consequences” “Revealed” and “Fracture” don’t add much for me.

2. Despite not seeing the film, the track “The Tunnel” sounds 100% different then the clip I saw. And it isn’t as good.

3. A severe lack of musical coherency. But then again, I should have expected this. Ignoring the fact that Brian Tyler’s Iron Man 3 theme, Christophe Beck’s Ant Man theme, and Alan Silvestri’s Captain America theme are not used, Jackman sparingly uses his own themes (Winter Soldier and Cap) and doesn’t even bring back his own themes for Black Widow and Falcon. Seriously, that Falcon theme was awesome.

4. A massive lack of development of new themes. With the exception of the Civil War and Zemo themes, the new themes, as much as I love them, are not developed. They’re pretty much motifs. I was hoping to get tracks completely dedicated to Spider-Man and Black Panther, but sadly, I didn’t. Once again, I like them, but they aren’t developed enough.

5. The Spider-Man theme is good, but it sounds a lot like Han Zimmer’s. Still good though.

Overall, I really like this soundtrack. It has its ups and it has its downs, but it is still very well made. Despite the underdeveloped themes, and the lack of returning ones, Jackman has delivered an intense, heroic, and surprisingly emotional musical score. I can’t whether or not where it ranks with all of the scores in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I enjoy better than the scores for Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers: Age of Ultron, and Ant Man. So far, it’s under The Avengers, Captain America, and The Winter Soldier. Hopefully after I see the film, I will find a larger appreciation for it. Overall, A-

Favorite Tracks:
1. Standoff
2. Civil War
3. Cap’s Promise
4. Lagos
5. Larger Than Life
6. New Recruit
7. Clash
8. Zemo
9. The Tunnel
10. Ancestral Call

*Note: Can someone tell me what the hell the Iron Man theme is?

jewen2016-05-03 19:36:31

Wich track of the album have the Spider Theme?

ZekeWars0102016-05-03 20:10:25

The tracks that the Spider-Man theme appears on are:

1. New Recruit
2. Standoff
3. Civil War
4. Larger Than Life

It's six notes. Bum bum bum! Bum bum bum! You'll know it when you hear it.

Saurabh2016-05-03 20:48:36
The new Iron Man theme is in Making Amends I believe. Wonderful track btw, only should've been longer. That's my gripe with this one. The new themes are pretty solid but too short. It was the same problem I had with TWS.

Tom2016-05-07 02:46:05
Iron Man's theme is in Making Amends. And the Spidey theme appears at 1:02 in Larger Than Life.

Jake2016-05-15 22:15:18
Zeke, I like your opinion on the soundtrack.

However, not to be rude, I'm not sure "musical coherency" was a good choice of words. Other than that, good stuff.

ZekeWars0102016-05-16 20:17:45
+Jake Thanks man.

Paul reply Replies: 10 || 2016-04-27 05:01:35
Are any of Silvestri's themes used?

Talon2016-04-27 07:06:08
Why are you so annoying people? Silvestri score for the first movie is shit.

Spence2016-04-27 09:08:11
On the contrary, it's the best MCU score still to date. Harkens back to classic superhero and patriotic war scores, combining them with modern cinematic flairs. The orchestration is beyond anything the other MCU scores have come close to achieving (followed closely by Elfman's Avengers stuff and Criag Armstrongs Hulk). The theme is the most iconic of all the Marvel themes (behind maybe the Avengers) and works in patriotic form, action form, emotional form, and all and in between. While all things evolve with time - and film music is no stranger to that - there's a reason why certain scores span the test of time and why certain themes outlive others. Silvestri's scores do exactly that. By the sample music above, you can tell Jackman feels the same. This music is a wonderful blend of Silvestri and Jackman's Cap scores from the previous two films, interwoven with the harmonic and melodic phrasings of Silvestri and Elfman's Avengers themes and orchestration that nearly captures the magic of Silvestri and Horner, infused with the modern "rockestration" popularized with the Remote Control team. By the way, Silvestri's Predator score is the reason Jackman decided to become a film composer, making the sound heard in this score all the more poetic. No, sir, Silvestri's score does not, as you so basically put it, "suck." It is one of the greatest superhero scores of the 21st century, you might need to take a few more listens or views to fully appreciate it

Macejko2016-04-27 10:49:15
No, Silvestri's score is really bad and his Cap theme is annoying to listen to. Best MCU score by far is Patrick Doyle's Thor.

Miralsice2016-04-27 11:44:17
I wish that Doyle return in Thor: Ragnarok and create most dark soundtrack of all Marvel soundtrack's. Because, come on it is Ragnarok - the darkest event in Norse mythology. Destruction of Asgard, death of the gods and all like this. The most dark movie in Marvel histroy.
But then Marvel said that there will be more humor, because of the story, that's too dark, and I lost all my hopes(

Edmardo Meinerts2016-04-28 00:01:30
Silvestri's Cap score is decent, but everything pales compared to ANT-MAN!

Edmund Meinerts2016-04-28 10:44:26
I love this exchange. Spence puts up a spirited, well-reasoned defense of Silvestri's Cap score, Macejko responds with "nope, it's bad and annoying to listen to." Gold. :P

And Miralsice, seriously, who needs more "dark" these days?

Mike2016-04-28 15:41:24
Even if I hated Silvestri's theme (which I don't, I really like it), I would want to hear it incorporated to demonstrate music consistency. If another composer were to have taken over for Civil War, I'd have wanted Jackman's less-than-inspired themes used, too. These themes *should* represent the musical DNA of the characters to me, and while characters may mature and evolve, they certainly don't completely become someone else (which a totally new musical identity seems to suggest).

Miralsice2016-04-30 19:19:58
Apparently Marvel don't like dark, but nevertheless they have created the Winter Soldier, which was darker than all their previous films. Hope the Civil War will be the same.

Jake2016-05-15 22:22:16
I love how you idiots argue over taste, which is by the way, subjective! Can you believe that? People can like different things? I also love how @Macejko tries to come off as factual, as if his opinion suddenly makes him the all mighty god of music. I'm sure your internet credentials make you veerry credible. Point is, make your opinions sound like opinions so you don't come across sounding ignorant!

Oh and just for the record,personally,I don't really enjoy either.

Macejko2016-05-16 09:21:39
Actually, I am God. Alpha and Omega and all that jazz. Now calm down, my son.

Jetinha reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-16 08:29:53
Here I come deconstructing the score, try not to cringe.

Henry Jackman's 8 note descending Civil War theme is actually a continuation of a 4 note segment of Danny Elfman's Age of Ultron theme.

Listen to New Avengers - Avengers: Age of Ultron 1:31, then listen to Cap's Promise 2:24. Also compare New Avengers - Avengers: Age of Ultron 2:29 to Cap's Promise 3:11.

I find that quite clever.

Macejko reply Replies: 5 || 2016-05-09 14:04:57
I've heard this score three times... and I am completely unable to identify any of the themes you guys are mentioning here. Spidey's theme? Black Panther theme? New Iron Man theme? Where? There is nothing in the entire score distinctive enough to warrant a "theme-status", except for the stuff (as bland as it may be) we already know from Winter Soldier.

This score is a mess. An unfocused mess, a mishmash of brief melodies that go nowhere. It's Jackman just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping that something'll stick. But it doesnt't. There is nothing. Not even the Winter Soldier theme is there, which was arguably the most recognizable part of the previous score.

I don't care if he uses a rich orchestration - there are no strong melodies/themes to attach the orchestra to. It's like having a bunch of strong muscles... but without a proper skeleton to support it.

Meta2016-05-09 15:35:25
Caps Promise and Zemo's theme are the only two prominent memorable themes on the score.

Pity Cap's Promise only lasts 2 minutes long (end credits theme), is the best cue on the entire album, and is never used throughout the movie.

Edmund Meinerts2016-05-09 15:46:17
I think of all the motifs here, the Civil War theme is the most distinctive. The one that gets a big dramatic statement about a minute into the track of that name (or 5:50 of the suite provided here). That moment is great in the film, too.

Other than that, I agree that most of the other motifs struggle very much to distinguish themselves from each other, though. You hear the phrase "style over substance" used a lot, but I'd say this score is the opposite - substance over style. I can't hear anything for Black Panther other than some vague ethnic wtoodwind textures. Spidey's theme I think is the one that sounds like Kingsman. I can't hear anything for Iron Man whatsoever.

MB2016-05-10 18:20:22
The new Civil War theme (5:50 of the suite provided here) sounds exactly like Basil Poledouris's Under Siege 2 Dark Territory main theme. For example track Casey On War I (01:47 - 01:57).

tomPoland2016-05-11 07:18:32
Agree. Such an opportunity wasted. HJ didn't use any of heroes theme outside of CA and WS. Ant-Man, Iron Man, Avengers - their themes are already there, all he needed is just to reach and embed them in the score. Shame.

ZekeWars0102016-05-13 15:24:36
+Macejko Spider-Man's Theme was pretty spectacular. His theme is 6 notes. It stands out to me. You can hear it in tracks New Recruit, Standoff, Civil War, Larger Than Life, and, Catastrophe. Bum bum bum, bum bum bum! You can't miss it. But I agree with you on Black Panther's Theme, it's barley there. Iron Man's is in Civil War, Making Amends, Clash, and Cap's Promise.

FC117 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-10 11:56:26
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FC117 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-10 11:54:01
I have to agree with macejko.

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 2 || 2016-05-07 03:14:10
Orchestral + Electronic Again Is Cool With Civil War Theme,Thanks For Returning The Soundtrack Henry Jackman

meta2016-05-07 15:10:42
i only have this to say:

"Adagio" is the music played when Stark views the tape

and its also played on the track "revealed"

i dont see whats so significant about this basic tension piece when clearly the best track of the score is cap's promise, which has the best theme of the score: the final 2 minutes.

why this piece wasnt used throughout the movie, or expanded on album is beyond me, considering Adagio.....

Medigo2016-05-07 15:42:13
I thought "fractured" was the theme that played for the tape scene
allthough as I mentioned below, the movie version was edited a little

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-05 21:22:48
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Cameron2016-05-06 16:56:35
Somebody had their energy drinks.

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-05 21:22:47
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AnaelFrenchGuy reply Replies: 1 || 2016-05-03 22:40:32
A lot of missing parts :/ The staircase fight scene, the actual tunnel chase (check the clip on youtube...), the helicopter scene...important pieces however.

Medigo2016-05-03 23:29:37
when you have only one CD to work with
you put in what you can get
and clearly they decided the airport fight deserved most of the attention

Not sure what the Tunnel music is all about
some last minute reworking?
the Fractured Theme also seems to have been given more 'heartbeats' in the movie

MB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-03 12:47:57
This new theme in Clash, Cap's Promise and some others sounds exactly like Basil Poledouris's Under Siege 2 Dark Territory main theme. For example track Casey On War I (01:47 - 01:57).

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2016-04-30 01:13:48
My initial impressions after one listen:

I really love that Jackman took the opportunity to distinguish this score from TWS (which I do enjoy). Instead of completely rehashing the style/themes, or fully abandoning the concepts, he managed to find a perfect middle ground which feels like a natural progression of the music. Both The Winter Soldier and Cap's themes actually get development, something I was initially worried about.

In regards to the orchestrations and themes, the bombastic approach works really well! While there is nothing as powerful as The Causeway or Taking a Stand, the action cues shine. Kudos for the interplay between themes! The end result is a score that is far more varied in style than TWS was. Even the new themes introduced are pretty strong.

Now the bullshit; Why the FUCK can Marvel not understand thematic consistency? One of the better things about Age of Ultron was the integration and development of the existing themes in the universe. Here, neither Iron Man's nor The Avengers themes get any mention at all (outside of a few small hints here and there). This is what kills the score for me. Hopefully the film tracks in some music to fill in the gaps.

So yeah, this is a mixed bag. On one hand it's a pretty heroic and developed score. On the other, it's a HUGELY missed opportunity. Oh well, here's hoping Infinity Wars fixes this issue.

*Side Note: Is it just me or does the orchestrated version of Winter Soldiers theme (Overture, Adagio) sound like Morricone's The Thing?

Edmund Meinerts2016-04-30 01:31:54
So that's two people so far describing "The Causeway" as "powerful", for me that was one of the worst cues from TWS!

mpolonest1232016-04-30 03:25:11
@Edmund The album version sure. The film version however... :D

I will say Into the Fray is the best cue from that score. Falcon's theme is just badass, I don't think Jackman brought it back here.

KL2016-04-30 14:20:26
@Edmund Meinerts, because you are a closed minded and you only accept music in orchestral style.

If you don't like The Causeway stop listening music please, you know NOTHING about composition secuences.

Ah, and by the way, I assume you are a person who thinks that metalcore, industrial, deathmetal and similar genres are just noise. Like I said, you know nothing, and this is why the "amateur critic" is so irrelevant.

Edmund Meinerts2016-04-30 14:34:15
Thanks for making a bunch of bullshit assumptions about me based on exactly nothing at all.

Some of my absolute favorite film music is heavily electronic. I adore Daft Punk's Tron Legacy score. I love what John Powell has done with the Bourne series, and in general, anything he does with electronics works. I think the techno-influenced stuff in the Matrix scores (Reloaded in particular) is phenomenal. So is the electronica in David Arnold's Bond scores. So is the opening action cue ("Touge") from Brian Tyler's third Fast and Furious score. Those scores work for me, not because they are either electronic or orchestral, but because they combine the two brilliantly to create something totally new, unique and memorable.

When I listen to The Causeway I don't hear anything like that. I hear a wailing screech effect, off-the-shelf drum loops, bland ostinatos and tired Inception-style foghorn blasts. It's as unpleasant and generic a modern action cue as you could possibly hope never to hear. With the possible exception of the screech, you could transpose it into pretty much any other modern action movie without anybody noticing the difference. Electronic, orchestral, it doesn't matter - I don't like The Causeway because it's simply not good music to me.

Edmardo Meinerts2016-05-01 23:49:29

The Causeway is a waste of sonic space and I'm sorry for your ears.
Although Falcon's theme is solid. It actually does appear in little snips in Civil War.

Medigo2016-05-02 14:10:47
again, are you talking about the album version? because that (annoyingly) gutted the full track
Maybe its just that recurring motif in The Causeway that I like so much(which is IMO pretty unique and I wish it came back to Civil War somehow), or that it works so well for the scene
But I too think its one of the more powerful pieces on the full soundtrack

However I will admit that its not easily accessible and that I understand why some cant stand to listen to it
But that doesnt make it objectively bad

Jetinha reply Replies: 6 || 2016-05-01 11:39:02
After watching the movie and listening to the soundtrack, I was initially disappointed that only the electronic Winter Soldier theme returned.

However, after a few repeated listens, I suspect that the Captain America 3 theme (as heard in Cap's Promise) is the major key version of the minor key Captain America 2 theme (as heard in Taking A Stand).

Miralsice2016-05-01 11:57:29
What about the theme of Spider Man? Is it good or bad? Is it on soundtrack or it appears only in the movie?

Jetinha2016-05-01 16:00:47
There is a Spiderman theme, but it's a short snippet, sounds distantly like the Danny Elfman string arrangement combined with the Hans Zimmer horn motif.

...2016-05-01 22:49:20
You mean the last part New Recruit?

I don't really hear Zimmer's trumpet theme but I agree about the elfman strings. However I kind of hear an avengers 2 motif

Edmardo Meinerts2016-05-01 23:50:54
It's literally a combination of the Zimmer trumpet fanfare, the closing measure of Brian Tyler's Iron Man Theme, and the Elfman swirly strings. It kind of works. It's ALL OVER the middle section of the soundtrack, introduced in "New Recruit."

Miralsice2016-05-02 01:54:55
Thanks for the answer Jetinha. Although I expect that the Spider Man theme will stand out of soundtrack, just like "The Smithsonian" on The Winter Soldier soundtrack. Anyway, I hope that in the film it would sound interesting.

Jetinha2016-05-02 13:46:53
Now that I listen again, the Spiderman theme does get a lot of highlight in the airport fight cue "Standoff".

Miralsice reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-01 12:04:59
By the way, i listen suite and i like it. There are some realy great moments. Particularly at 5:50 in the suite; very old fashioned - a four note descending motif that goes through some modulations I don't think we've heard from a mainstream Hollywood score in twenty years. Hope it will be great not only in the context of the film but also separately.

Medigo reply Replies: 0 || 2016-05-01 09:53:53
just like last time
having seen the movie and comparing it to the score
I can tell a lot of tracks have been chopped to pieces

Cameron reply Replies: 2 || 2016-04-30 03:58:48
I like that Jackman took a more orchestral approach, but it sounds like he completely ditched the Taking A Stand theme, which sucks. I would have loved to hear an orchestral version of that theme.

Hybrid Soldier2016-04-30 09:10:11
This ! But here again, most of the great orchestral work on the first was Dom...

Cameron2016-04-30 18:11:59
Hmm. I really can't say I've heard the theme in this score. Either I haven't listened enough, or I'm going deaf. I'll listen again.

jewen reply Replies: 5 || 2016-04-30 12:25:25
Ok, it is true. This OST sounds better than The Winter Soldier score, more coherent with the tone of the rest of MCU's film.
The problem again, in spite of the fact that the music sounds nice is that it is generic music, without soul, without emotion.
Presencial music, simply of landfill and not to give personality to the film.
In this particular, DC/Warner demonstrates more respect for the way of doing cinema, respecting the function of the OST in the movie.
In only 2 movies already we have musical themes for Superman, Zod, Batman, Wonder Woman and Lex Luthor.
And not only they sound well but it has personality, represent excellently his respective character and in the movie they use as narrator and give power to the images.
It is a shame that after a notable OST like Age of Ultron again Marvel returns to this musical emptiness that he accustoms.
And I do not hate Marvel's OST.
I love Tyler Bates's Guardians, Silvestri's First Avenger and Avengers or the nices duo Elfman/Tyler in Ultron. All fenomenal scores whit great and memorable main themes and good musical script. Something that Civil War completely forgotten.

Edmund Meinerts2016-04-30 13:15:17
So I guess our choices these days are between decent themes poorly used (Marvel) or lame themes that slap you over the head until you're sick of them (DC). What a world...

jewen2016-04-30 13:50:27
And I don't think that Henry Jackman is the main problem, after X:Men First Class and Kingsman he demostrated that he know how to aproach a comic book film....
Maybe the problem is the directors or the production process. Maybe they dont gave Henry time or ideas to make something great.

Ds2016-04-30 16:54:09
Edmund, you're being a bit harsch here... Do you really find Cark Kent's theme to be "lame" or "slapping you over the head until you're sick of it"? And what about most of the segments of the new Batman theme (I mean everything exept the duuuum-dum-dum-dum-dum, which sounds admittedly a bit cheap)? And the cello riff for Wonder Woman? I could go on, but just those 3 simple examples had a bigger emotional impact on me than anything I heard in any Avengers movies (including this one).

Edmund Meinerts2016-04-30 17:06:55
I was thinking of both the old two-note Nolan Batman motif and the new pounding one when I said that, and also of the low two-note rising pairs you hear all over Man of Steel. I'd have a bit more tolerance for the Clark Kent theme if you didn't hear it in the exact same sparse piano rendition every single time it's played, as well. Sadly I feel like the elements of those themes that are referenced ad nauseam in the DC scores are the least interesting ones, while the more melodic longer-lined stuff that I personally find more interesting and more moving ("Like a Dog Chasing Cars", "If You Love These People", "What Are You...", "Beautiful Lie") usually only gets one or two renditions per score and is not developed nearly as much.

But yeah, I was probably being too harsh. :p

Ds2016-04-30 18:01:03
I cannot really disagree on this, the very best cues are indeed sparsely used (but when they are used, man, they sound absolutely phenomenal).

My gripe with the MCU is that they don't even have such phenomenal moments, it's just by-the-meter entertainement with a random score, sometimes pretty fun (Ant-Man, Iron Man 3), sometimes really forgettable (the rest). The only time they almost reached greatness was with Doyle's Thor... and we never heard about that one again :-p

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