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Yes that Salazar theme does basically take a segment from the Blackbeard theme, lets not be kidding ourselves. But Ill reserve judgment until I hear the full rendition.Thanks Hybrid<br><br>Merci Hybrid &#128512;It is the Black Beard theme with a new arrange. Maybe exist some reason behind thisI'm actually pretty excited by what I'm hearing. Carina's new theme is nice and I love the orchestral energy Geoff brings to this one. The one gripe I have with this so far is that Salazar's theme, at least the beginning, is almost Blackbeard's theme note for note. It even has some of the same instrumentation. Other than that, I tip my hat to Geoff.It sounds very much like the intro motif from Blackbeard theme, not the theme itself, although not the same exact notes neither.<br><br>I think is merely intentional to these have the same "DNA", is not accident. Remember Zanelli was heavily involved in Stranger Tides, much more than the trilogy.
My teenager daugther and I are looking  forward to seing you in  Barcelona.  It would be the nicest gift I could ever give to her for her 18th birthday.I discovered today that Lorne will be scoring/has scored the upcoming movie 'Churchill' Awesome stuff!Hybrid - what did you like/not like about it?Quite the opposite most people (who care) were/are looking forward to seeing what Geoff Zanelli would do after the uninspiring On Stranger Tides.<br><br>Having said that I'm not feeling this one. I'm glad it was composed by someone who wanted to do it but I think Hans' creativity is missed, honestly. For all the talk about ghost-writers (which I've argued about on here a few times), it's telling when you hear the original work of people who've arranged his compositions and compare.<br><br>I will say one thing in defence of it. Last time out (with OST) we got our first exposure to the score back when there was a possibility the film would still be good. Sadly it's been confirmed as shit and I wonder if that biases my view when listening to it and makes me less receptive.The suite brought tears to my eyes. The music I hope is Carina's theme is too beautiful for words.
I imagine some kind of connection between Salazar and Blackbeard. Not that is in the movie, may be conceptual, but I don't think is "accidental" or laziness. It sounds pretty intentionalthis sounds nothing at all like davey jones.  or blackbeard as other people said.  i think many people decided not to like this score before it came out.  that's all i think when i see these comments.  is anyone actually listening?just a recall of the Davy Jones first appearance music : <br>https://youtu.be/Lhb4FccPrOI?t=2m58ssalazar's theme guys : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7vHk9sq3s&ab_channel=disne ymusicJust read that on film music reporter . Lorne has to be the most in demand composer at the moment . Amazing how busy he is and really enjoying his score to Genius
That's not surprising to hear, this series really has become one big cash grab (moreso than it already was)<br><br>I'm really excited to hear the full score on album when it drops, Geoff is enormously talented. Judging by the suite alone there really aren't any new moments that pop out to me or scream <br>memorable. Even On Stranger Tides managed to fit in some pretty solid new ideas, and a decent album presentation outside of the remixes.<br><br>Also, is it just me or is the recording a bit flat?Does ol Hector Barbossa get his own theme or do they use Becketts again?Well I saw the film today as well and I can't express how disappointed I was by it... Such a mess, with a bunch of horrible things and some good ones halas buried in the rest...<br><br>As for the score, it flows better on CD, but Geoff did really good, much better than the 4th.The Suite sounds great and the music from the instagram video the director Joachim Ronning posted is at around the 0:25 second mark I think but Geoff Zanelli did great with this.Eh, I'm not really like Blackbeard's - I mean Salazar's theme. It sounds like a temped mix of the Blackbeard theme and Ramin's Kaiju theme from Pacific Rim.<br><br>The rest sounds pretty good, especially the references to "Marry Me"<br><br>Hybrid, what are your impressions of the full thing?
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon HarperDaniel Pinder
ComposerAdditional MusicConductorMusic Editor
Moana
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 120'06
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CD1
  1. Tulou Tagaloa - Olivia Foa'i (0:52)
  2. An Innocent Warrior - Vai Mahina, Sulata Foai-Amiatu, Matthew Ineleo (1:38)
  3. Where You Are - Christopher Jackson, Rachel House, Nicole Scherzinger, Auli'i Cravalho, Louise Bush (3:31)
  4. How Far I'll Go - Auli'i Cravalho (2:44)
  5. We Know The Way - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (2:22)
  6. How Far I'll Go (Reprise) - Auli'i Cravalho (1:28)
  7. You're Welcome - Dwayne Johnson (2:44)
  8. Shiny - Jemaine Clement (3:06)
  9. Logo Te Pate - Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Talaga Steve Sale (2:11)
  10. I Am Moana (Song Of The Ancestors) - Rachel House, Auli'i Cravalho (2:43)
  11. Know Who You Are - Auli'i Cravalho, Vai Mahina, Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Matthew Ineleo (1:13)
  12. We Know The Way (Finale) - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (1:10)
  13. How Far I'll Go (Alessia Cara Version) - Alessia Cara (2:56)
  14. You're Welcome (Jordan Fisher/Lin-Manuel Miranda Version) - Jordan Fisher, Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:18)
  15. Prologue (2:26)
  16. He Was You (0:51)
  17. Village Crazy Lady (0:46)
  18. Cavern (2:06)
  19. The Ocean Chose You (1:18)
  20. The Hook (1:10)
  21. Tala's Deathbed (2:01)
  22. Battle Of Wills (3:11)
  23. Kakamora (4:34)
  24. Wayfinding (1:53)
  25. Climbing (0:55)
  26. Tamatoa's Lair (2:46)
  27. Great Escape (1:00)
  28. If I Were The Ocean (3:02)
  29. Te Ka Attacks (1:42)
  30. Maui Leaves (2:06)
  31. Heartache (0:40)
  32. Tala Returns (1:02)
  33. Sails To Te Fiti (5:47)
  34. Shiny Heart (0:37)
  35. Te Fiti Restored (1:04)
  36. Hand Of A God (0:31)
  37. Voyager Tagaloa (0:58)
  38. Toe Feiloa'i (1:26)
  39. Navigating Home (0:48)
  40. The Return To Voyaging (1:02)
CD2
  1. Unstoppable (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (4:00)
  2. More (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (3:17)
  3. More (Reprise) (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (2:39)
  4. Warrior Face (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:17)
  5. Where You Are (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:02)
  6. You're Welcome (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:38)
  7. Shiny (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:05)
  8. Prologue (Score Demo) (2:27)
  9. Village Crazy Lady (Score Demo) (0:45)
  10. Cavern (Score Demo) (2:06)
  11. Kakamora (Score Demo) (3:59)
  12. It's Called Wayfinding (Score Demo) (0:54)
  13. Maui Leaves (Score Demo) (2:05)
  14. Sails To Te Fiti (Score Demo) (1:38)
  15. Maui Battles (Score Demo) (1:58)
  16. Sea Monsters (Score Demo) (0:46)
  17. Tala Returns (Score Demo) (1:16)
  18. How Far I'll Go (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:45)
  19. You're Welcome (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:44)
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Bob Smith reply Replies: 2 || 2016-12-12 08:44:47
Is this a complete score Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-12 16:40:12
Nope, far from it, lots of short cues missing here & there, not that much significant material though...


Bob Smith2016-12-13 07:33:47
Thanks a lot man. It's really cool to have someone who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-11-26 18:22:02
Would welcome any attempt at putting the tracks in chronological order for this one.


Carly2016-11-28 03:12:20
After seeing the movie, this is how I would order CD 1 chronologically:

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
How Far I'll Go
He Was You
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills [this one might go before "You're Welcome"]
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)

I'm not positive, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!


Carly2016-11-28 03:37:08
Actually, I think "He Was You" comes before "How Far I'll Go."


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-03 17:51:40
I confirm your correct order Carly, with a couple of corrections ! :)

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
He Was You
How Far I'll Go
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed (after 1:15 seems unused)
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
If I Were the Ocean (first 2:07)
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean (after 2:07)
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)


0-^-02016-12-04 18:23:46
Thank You all for your contributions!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-11-21 11:57:38
I just had a listen to this (the score portion at least), and while it's nice and the Hawaiian elements (a beautiful flute and chanting choir) are worked in pretty well, I can't help but be a little disappointed. The many short tracks make it feel very fragmented and there's hardly any thematic material to hold it together. Definitely the best tracks are the long action cues "Kakamora" and "Sails to Te Fiti", but even they change rhythm every ten seconds and are a little frustrating. You can definitely tell that the score is composed to fit in between a lot of songs because it seems to lack a narrative of its own.

It's still worth listening to, but don't expect anything on the level of Planes.


rockhound2016-11-21 14:29:34
with the songs it is the same. mancina did co-write the music for a couple of them and produced almost all of them and you can hear that. all the songs have melodies, but none of them shines out as a theme song like for example in Tarzan or The Lion King. none of the songs has a very strong melody, but they capture the hawaiian feeling perfectly as the score does. if you listen to the album as a whole, the concept works.


Arose2016-11-29 07:12:15
Just FYI, not everything Polynesian is Hawaiian. There are like numerous other cultures (much older, approx 3000yrs old) than the Hawaiian culture (which is only about 900-1300yrs old). So the story and the music of Moana is actually based and from those older cultures (I.e Tulou Tagaloa is entirely Samoan).

JB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-17 18:51:44
The album structure is very similar to the Frozen soundtrack. Fisrts disc original songs followed by the original score. Second disc outtakes, demos and instrumentals from the original songs and the score.

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-19 10:18:01
Mark needs to properly return to the scoring game. Seriously, it's long overdue. I feel like I've been waiting for Moana for centuries and I'm really excited.


Peter2016-11-04 21:36:36
totally agree, why he is scoring so rarely?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-18 14:11:58
2CD !!! :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-18 12:07:53
New Mancina to come !


isildur2016-10-18 12:49:08
Really excited about this. Mark writes some beautiful melodies. Just like Atli, he doesn't get as much as he deserves.

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