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Cool Hybrid! Been at the concert in Oberhausen last Saturday. A lot better then expected to be honest. Pedro's Oogway's Ascend was very good, Pedro outdid himself there (at the 2nd Zimmer concerts I thought he wasnt that great compared to Richard).<br><br>Yeah! The hell are the other comments about though? The Last Stand is miles ahead of X2. You weren't even saying TLS was the best X-men score, you were just saying it's Powell's best score. Man people are dumbHi, I want to add some seconds of 8 track for the background of my small documentary about races, my first one, is it possibile to ask for copyright? Should I write to some email addresses?<br>I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I don’t personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.<br><br>The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I can’t wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049.... <br><br>Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well. <br><br>Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things. <br><br>I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them. <br><br>Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.Come to Bratislava, Slovakia too.I wonder with all of the Easter eggs if Jackman will incorporate some character themes like possibly the Imperial March for Storm Troopers Or Disney themed for the Disney characters@Anonymous on the Blu-ray it should have surround sound. Just that it's out on iTunes in Australia already - which is how I got it - and iTunes bonus features are obviously only in stereo.<br><br>@Ahmad - the benefit here is really all the film version edits of the cues we already have on the album. And some of them are quite different from the album ones....<br><br>The tracklist I came up with for now for the iso score. Total runtime is 2:08:16.<br><br>A Storm Is Coming (Logos) / Julia / Good Evening, Mr. Hunt	4:51			<br>Self-Destruct	0:23			<br>Plutonium Trade / A Terrible Choice	6:14			<br>The Manifesto	1:46			<br>Fallout (Main Titles) / Your Mission (Part 1)	2:07			<br>Your Mission (Part 2)	2:21			<br>Free Fall (Part 1)	1:57			<br>Free Fall (Part 2)	2:14			<br>Grand Palais / Consequences Of Love	2:01			<br>Bathroom	6:12			<br>No Pain, No Gain (Outro) / As Ugly As They Come 	2:09			<br>I'll See You In My Dreams / Widow Bar	2:33			<br>The White Widow / Should You Choose To Accept...	5:38			<br>Busy Day Tomorrow	0:41			<br>Framing Ethan / The Exchange	6:37			<br>Escape Through Paris	6:11			<br>Steps Ahead	1:11			<br>Je Suis Désolé	1:04			<br>Unfinished Business	0:34			<br>Did You Ever Choose Not To?	1:51			<br>You're Mine Now	0:30			<br>We Are Never Free	4:52			<br>Widow In London	1:45				<br>Trapped	3:14				<br>The Mission Is Terminated	2:02			<br>No Hard Feelings / The Exhortation	6:46			<br>Stairs & Rooftops	6:25			<br>Kashmir	7:10				<br>Julia (Reprise) / Fate Whispers To The Warrior	5:06			<br>And The Warrior Whispers Back	8:20			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 1)	4:12			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 2)	1:21			<br>Scalpel & Hammer	3:47			<br>Cutting On One	1:25			<br>The Last Resort 1:48			<br>There's No Reason To Be Sorry / Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call)	4:51	<br>End Credits	6:28
I wonder what the quality on the disc will be like but definitely not expecting lossless. Three commentaries and the isolated score and language tracks. That's a lot and the movie is not short lol. <br><br>In general, I don't think we're missing much to begin with (but it's really cool and should be done more often). There's a cool bit where the "Syndicate" theme was used I think in the film version of "Escape Through Paris" and the album version doesn't have that bit.ur kidding. is it like the last jedi? why cant it be in surround soundI believe it's stereo at around 160kbps (since it's a stream from iTunes Extras)What quality does the isolated score from iTunes have?Have any of the slate titles surfaced for this? Would be useful when dividing up that (brilliant!) isolated score into tracks. Got it off iTunes earlier this week and pretty much been on repeat all week, so awesome.
I wish. I live like 15 miles away from Golden 1 Center.come to Sacremento,california!!!No, you lying...The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.I always wanted to know why that is? when you hear music in the movie composed by Hans or company they sometimessound different, or are not in the soundtrack. Perfect example the Batman trilogy and specially Man of steel. John powell has a lot of missing music as well.
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon HarperDaniel Pinder
ComposerAdditional MusicConductorMusic Editor
Moana
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 120'06
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CD1
  1. Tulou Tagaloa - Olivia Foa'i (0:52)
  2. An Innocent Warrior - Vai Mahina, Sulata Foai-Amiatu, Matthew Ineleo (1:38)
  3. Where You Are - Christopher Jackson, Rachel House, Nicole Scherzinger, Auli'i Cravalho, Louise Bush (3:31)
  4. How Far I'll Go - Auli'i Cravalho (2:44)
  5. We Know The Way - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (2:22)
  6. How Far I'll Go (Reprise) - Auli'i Cravalho (1:28)
  7. You're Welcome - Dwayne Johnson (2:44)
  8. Shiny - Jemaine Clement (3:06)
  9. Logo Te Pate - Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Talaga Steve Sale (2:11)
  10. I Am Moana (Song Of The Ancestors) - Rachel House, Auli'i Cravalho (2:43)
  11. Know Who You Are - Auli'i Cravalho, Vai Mahina, Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Matthew Ineleo (1:13)
  12. We Know The Way (Finale) - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (1:10)
  13. How Far I'll Go (Alessia Cara Version) - Alessia Cara (2:56)
  14. You're Welcome (Jordan Fisher/Lin-Manuel Miranda Version) - Jordan Fisher, Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:18)
  15. Prologue (2:26)
  16. He Was You (0:51)
  17. Village Crazy Lady (0:46)
  18. Cavern (2:06)
  19. The Ocean Chose You (1:18)
  20. The Hook (1:10)
  21. Tala's Deathbed (2:01)
  22. Battle Of Wills (3:11)
  23. Kakamora (4:34)
  24. Wayfinding (1:53)
  25. Climbing (0:55)
  26. Tamatoa's Lair (2:46)
  27. Great Escape (1:00)
  28. If I Were The Ocean (3:02)
  29. Te Ka Attacks (1:42)
  30. Maui Leaves (2:06)
  31. Heartache (0:40)
  32. Tala Returns (1:02)
  33. Sails To Te Fiti (5:47)
  34. Shiny Heart (0:37)
  35. Te Fiti Restored (1:04)
  36. Hand Of A God (0:31)
  37. Voyager Tagaloa (0:58)
  38. Toe Feiloa'i (1:26)
  39. Navigating Home (0:48)
  40. The Return To Voyaging (1:02)
CD2
  1. Unstoppable (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (4:00)
  2. More (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (3:17)
  3. More (Reprise) (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (2:39)
  4. Warrior Face (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:17)
  5. Where You Are (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:02)
  6. You're Welcome (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:38)
  7. Shiny (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:05)
  8. Prologue (Score Demo) (2:27)
  9. Village Crazy Lady (Score Demo) (0:45)
  10. Cavern (Score Demo) (2:06)
  11. Kakamora (Score Demo) (3:59)
  12. It's Called Wayfinding (Score Demo) (0:54)
  13. Maui Leaves (Score Demo) (2:05)
  14. Sails To Te Fiti (Score Demo) (1:38)
  15. Maui Battles (Score Demo) (1:58)
  16. Sea Monsters (Score Demo) (0:46)
  17. Tala Returns (Score Demo) (1:16)
  18. How Far I'll Go (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:45)
  19. You're Welcome (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:44)
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Bob Smith reply Replies: 2 || 2016-12-12 08:44:47
Is this a complete score Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-12 16:40:12
Nope, far from it, lots of short cues missing here & there, not that much significant material though...


Bob Smith2016-12-13 07:33:47
Thanks a lot man. It's really cool to have someone who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-11-26 18:22:02
Would welcome any attempt at putting the tracks in chronological order for this one.


Carly2016-11-28 03:12:20
After seeing the movie, this is how I would order CD 1 chronologically:

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
How Far I'll Go
He Was You
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills [this one might go before "You're Welcome"]
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)

I'm not positive, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!


Carly2016-11-28 03:37:08
Actually, I think "He Was You" comes before "How Far I'll Go."


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-03 17:51:40
I confirm your correct order Carly, with a couple of corrections ! :)

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
He Was You
How Far I'll Go
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed (after 1:15 seems unused)
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
If I Were the Ocean (first 2:07)
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean (after 2:07)
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)


0-^-02016-12-04 18:23:46
Thank You all for your contributions!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-11-21 11:57:38
I just had a listen to this (the score portion at least), and while it's nice and the Hawaiian elements (a beautiful flute and chanting choir) are worked in pretty well, I can't help but be a little disappointed. The many short tracks make it feel very fragmented and there's hardly any thematic material to hold it together. Definitely the best tracks are the long action cues "Kakamora" and "Sails to Te Fiti", but even they change rhythm every ten seconds and are a little frustrating. You can definitely tell that the score is composed to fit in between a lot of songs because it seems to lack a narrative of its own.

It's still worth listening to, but don't expect anything on the level of Planes.


rockhound2016-11-21 14:29:34
with the songs it is the same. mancina did co-write the music for a couple of them and produced almost all of them and you can hear that. all the songs have melodies, but none of them shines out as a theme song like for example in Tarzan or The Lion King. none of the songs has a very strong melody, but they capture the hawaiian feeling perfectly as the score does. if you listen to the album as a whole, the concept works.


Arose2016-11-29 07:12:15
Just FYI, not everything Polynesian is Hawaiian. There are like numerous other cultures (much older, approx 3000yrs old) than the Hawaiian culture (which is only about 900-1300yrs old). So the story and the music of Moana is actually based and from those older cultures (I.e Tulou Tagaloa is entirely Samoan).

JB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-17 18:51:44
The album structure is very similar to the Frozen soundtrack. Fisrts disc original songs followed by the original score. Second disc outtakes, demos and instrumentals from the original songs and the score.

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-19 10:18:01
Mark needs to properly return to the scoring game. Seriously, it's long overdue. I feel like I've been waiting for Moana for centuries and I'm really excited.


Peter2016-11-04 21:36:36
totally agree, why he is scoring so rarely?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-18 14:11:58
2CD !!! :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-18 12:07:53
New Mancina to come !


isildur2016-10-18 12:49:08
Really excited about this. Mark writes some beautiful melodies. Just like Atli, he doesn't get as much as he deserves.

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