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Maybe because it is IDENTICAL the another theme of the same series?I haven't seen the movie yet, but I will soon, but I've heard the soundtrack and I have only one thing to say. This is the best score of the franchise since At World's End. I had tears in my eyes every time an old theme played. I liked the score for On Stranger Tides, but I didn't like how it relied too much on older themes. I appreciate this score for not using the Ship battle theme and the rolling cage chase motif which I'm kinda tired of hearing them. I love the clever use of One Day as a theme for Henry Turner. Of course, everytime Jack's Themes (both the intro theme, the cello theme, and his DMC theme) and He's A Pirate show up, I can't help but smile and jump up and down. What about the new stuff? A lot of people have criticized Salazar's Theme for sounding like Blackbeard. It does don't get me wrong, but Zanelli isn't the first person to do this. The Winter Soldier is derived from Why So Serious. Optimus Prime's theme is IDENTICAL to the Knights March from King Arthur. Discombobulate from Sherlock Holmes, Absurdity from The Lone Ranger, and The Red Capes Are Coming from Batman v. Superman ALL SOUND THE SAME. They're awesome, but similar. Why is it so bad now? I like the rock elements in Salazar's theme and it makes it quite scary. Carina's Theme (The Brightest Star in the North) is also the main theme of the movie and it is perfect beyond belief. Her theme very much resembles past love themes, but it has a sense of herorism to it. I always gravitate to composer's themes for female characters (John Williams with my girls from Star Wars). The new adventure theme is epic! It does sound like He's A Pirate, but it is very catchy. I don't know what the score sounds like in the movie, but it sounds really good on the official soundtrack. To end this, all the action music is incredibly fun. Hans should be proud. Here are my top  5 favorite tracks:<br><br>1. Beyond My Beloved Horizon<br>2. The Brightest Star in the North<br>3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel<br>4. My Name is Barbossa<br>5. The Dying GullThe orchestrators are the same.<br><br>You really think the other composers aren't busy enough these days ? It was 10 YEARS ago ! lol*necessary (sorry about my english)This composing lacks on every important aspect that make a film music score so nessesary to the movie itself. This music has no evolution, has no entity or identity.<br><br>You only know that you are listening the "WONDER WOMAN" ost when you listen the references to the now mythical (Zimmer) theme from Batman v Superman. And when this theme sounds in this composing it feels totaly out of place, really a shame.<br><br>Beyond, this music could easily work with another summer blockbuster like Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean or a generic action flick.<br>For years Iíve been defending "DC" music works against the  Marvelís (MCU) soul-less soundtracks. And now after three awesome ost (DCEU) I have to eat my words.<br>Is not necessary to talk about how great are Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad (ok, this last less, but with a epic main theme). You only need to listen Rupert Gregson-Williams Wonder Woman, and then play one of this three compositions.<br><br>But the most disappointing thing, is the great missed oportunity with the Wonder Woman Theme last year. That exotic tone, that woman strengh that you feel when you are listen this epic theme. Here all this feelings are lost. At the end, another Zimmer-Like Šlbum. <br>But like always in the "Zimmer-Like" longtime Šlbum library, not that height, not that quality, because if Wonder Womanís score remebers us something, is one and clear truth: Only Exists One Hans Zimmer.<br>
What I don't understand is why couldn't they at least aim for the best soundscape this franchise have had by bringing the rest of the team from AWE of composers, arrangers and orchestrators back. If we look at AWE, apart from Zimmer, there was Zanelli, Jackman, Glennie-Smith, Balfe, ÷rvarsson, Gire and Sponsler on board. If they could choose one lead composer in Zimmer's absence, then whatever some dude wrote would at least sound interesting because of the colorful instrumentation and big, fresh orchestral sound AWE had. Or maybe, just rearrange old themes from the other movies in true AWE style would work just as well. There's plenty of material from POTC 1 that hasn't been used in the other films, and much of it would shine if orchestrated and performed in AWE's sonic fashion rather than the cheap sound the first film had.Fantastic album, particularly HGW's Metal Gear Solid and HZ's Call of Duty! Highly recommendedZanelli made a wonderful job with Zimmer's themes.<br>The new themes are great too, but he really did Zimmer's themes justice. I like the continuity.<br>Track 9.El Matador Del Mar, my favorite on the album.Maybe it's the end credits after the songI also love the appearence of the theme in the end of Trafalgar Celebartion. Does anybody know what Action Reaction exactly is? It sounds a bit like a remix from the main theme but it could also be a part of the movie soundtrack. i don't know but it sounds cool.
After listening to it the first time I thought this was a very good Zimmer score, but suddenly realized it was Rupert Gregson-Williams and that's a very good thing because he has been able to bring this Zimmer classic sound but with his own voice, as they said above here, with Last Samurai-like anthems and also remind me a bit of the second half of Hacksaw Ridge score, and that's great.<br>I specially liked No Man's Land, Wrath of Wonder Woman, Hell Hath No Fury and Lightning Strikes (well, in general, the second half is pretty awesome with many action heroic themes).<br>Cannot wait to hear it in the context of the movie.Love Maestro in The Holiday! The music keeps bringing me back to the movie. Something delightful about it!This is "One day" theme of the third soundtrack xDListen to 12:38 above and then also Main Title or Top of the World from Last of the Mohicans. Trevor Jones should have a listen.I swear I heard Last of the Mohicans in the movie twice. Maybe it was the slowing of the classic pirate theme. I will figure it out next time I watch.
@ mpolonest123 except the Sia song is played during the end creditsThanks!!Of memory I think is it the order of the movie, but I think some tracks are mixed in one, for exemple el matador del mar (like At Wit's End in potc3)  :-)Does anyone know if the score is in the same order it is played in the movie??I agree - why didn't they include Tina's version of the theme . More of the Zimmer would have made the score much effective
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon HarperDaniel Pinder
ComposerAdditional MusicConductorMusic Editor
Moana
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 120'06
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CD1
  1. Tulou Tagaloa - Olivia Foa'i (0:52)
  2. An Innocent Warrior - Vai Mahina, Sulata Foai-Amiatu, Matthew Ineleo (1:38)
  3. Where You Are - Christopher Jackson, Rachel House, Nicole Scherzinger, Auli'i Cravalho, Louise Bush (3:31)
  4. How Far I'll Go - Auli'i Cravalho (2:44)
  5. We Know The Way - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (2:22)
  6. How Far I'll Go (Reprise) - Auli'i Cravalho (1:28)
  7. You're Welcome - Dwayne Johnson (2:44)
  8. Shiny - Jemaine Clement (3:06)
  9. Logo Te Pate - Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Talaga Steve Sale (2:11)
  10. I Am Moana (Song Of The Ancestors) - Rachel House, Auli'i Cravalho (2:43)
  11. Know Who You Are - Auli'i Cravalho, Vai Mahina, Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Matthew Ineleo (1:13)
  12. We Know The Way (Finale) - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (1:10)
  13. How Far I'll Go (Alessia Cara Version) - Alessia Cara (2:56)
  14. You're Welcome (Jordan Fisher/Lin-Manuel Miranda Version) - Jordan Fisher, Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:18)
  15. Prologue (2:26)
  16. He Was You (0:51)
  17. Village Crazy Lady (0:46)
  18. Cavern (2:06)
  19. The Ocean Chose You (1:18)
  20. The Hook (1:10)
  21. Tala's Deathbed (2:01)
  22. Battle Of Wills (3:11)
  23. Kakamora (4:34)
  24. Wayfinding (1:53)
  25. Climbing (0:55)
  26. Tamatoa's Lair (2:46)
  27. Great Escape (1:00)
  28. If I Were The Ocean (3:02)
  29. Te Ka Attacks (1:42)
  30. Maui Leaves (2:06)
  31. Heartache (0:40)
  32. Tala Returns (1:02)
  33. Sails To Te Fiti (5:47)
  34. Shiny Heart (0:37)
  35. Te Fiti Restored (1:04)
  36. Hand Of A God (0:31)
  37. Voyager Tagaloa (0:58)
  38. Toe Feiloa'i (1:26)
  39. Navigating Home (0:48)
  40. The Return To Voyaging (1:02)
CD2
  1. Unstoppable (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (4:00)
  2. More (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (3:17)
  3. More (Reprise) (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (2:39)
  4. Warrior Face (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:17)
  5. Where You Are (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:02)
  6. You're Welcome (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:38)
  7. Shiny (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:05)
  8. Prologue (Score Demo) (2:27)
  9. Village Crazy Lady (Score Demo) (0:45)
  10. Cavern (Score Demo) (2:06)
  11. Kakamora (Score Demo) (3:59)
  12. It's Called Wayfinding (Score Demo) (0:54)
  13. Maui Leaves (Score Demo) (2:05)
  14. Sails To Te Fiti (Score Demo) (1:38)
  15. Maui Battles (Score Demo) (1:58)
  16. Sea Monsters (Score Demo) (0:46)
  17. Tala Returns (Score Demo) (1:16)
  18. How Far I'll Go (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:45)
  19. You're Welcome (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:44)
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Bob Smith reply Replies: 2 || 2016-12-12 08:44:47
Is this a complete score Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-12 16:40:12
Nope, far from it, lots of short cues missing here & there, not that much significant material though...


Bob Smith2016-12-13 07:33:47
Thanks a lot man. It's really cool to have someone who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-11-26 18:22:02
Would welcome any attempt at putting the tracks in chronological order for this one.


Carly2016-11-28 03:12:20
After seeing the movie, this is how I would order CD 1 chronologically:

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
How Far I'll Go
He Was You
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills [this one might go before "You're Welcome"]
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)

I'm not positive, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!


Carly2016-11-28 03:37:08
Actually, I think "He Was You" comes before "How Far I'll Go."


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-03 17:51:40
I confirm your correct order Carly, with a couple of corrections ! :)

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
He Was You
How Far I'll Go
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed (after 1:15 seems unused)
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
If I Were the Ocean (first 2:07)
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean (after 2:07)
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)


0-^-02016-12-04 18:23:46
Thank You all for your contributions!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-11-21 11:57:38
I just had a listen to this (the score portion at least), and while it's nice and the Hawaiian elements (a beautiful flute and chanting choir) are worked in pretty well, I can't help but be a little disappointed. The many short tracks make it feel very fragmented and there's hardly any thematic material to hold it together. Definitely the best tracks are the long action cues "Kakamora" and "Sails to Te Fiti", but even they change rhythm every ten seconds and are a little frustrating. You can definitely tell that the score is composed to fit in between a lot of songs because it seems to lack a narrative of its own.

It's still worth listening to, but don't expect anything on the level of Planes.

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rockhound2016-11-21 14:29:34
with the songs it is the same. mancina did co-write the music for a couple of them and produced almost all of them and you can hear that. all the songs have melodies, but none of them shines out as a theme song like for example in Tarzan or The Lion King. none of the songs has a very strong melody, but they capture the hawaiian feeling perfectly as the score does. if you listen to the album as a whole, the concept works.


Arose2016-11-29 07:12:15
Just FYI, not everything Polynesian is Hawaiian. There are like numerous other cultures (much older, approx 3000yrs old) than the Hawaiian culture (which is only about 900-1300yrs old). So the story and the music of Moana is actually based and from those older cultures (I.e Tulou Tagaloa is entirely Samoan).

JB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-17 18:51:44
The album structure is very similar to the Frozen soundtrack. Fisrts disc original songs followed by the original score. Second disc outtakes, demos and instrumentals from the original songs and the score.

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-19 10:18:01
Mark needs to properly return to the scoring game. Seriously, it's long overdue. I feel like I've been waiting for Moana for centuries and I'm really excited.


Peter2016-11-04 21:36:36
totally agree, why he is scoring so rarely?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-18 14:11:58
2CD !!! :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-18 12:07:53
New Mancina to come !


isildur2016-10-18 12:49:08
Really excited about this. Mark writes some beautiful melodies. Just like Atli, he doesn't get as much as he deserves.

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