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Bayhem - why are you so worked up about him working or not working on the film ?the fact he did seems to annoy youLorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!<br>========================<br><br><br>Correct.Oh if you liked this one, you should see the one way below with Bayhem, Meta and Macejko going at it like crazy<br><br>Pretty sure saying this will make another situation like that.I like how this debate about Lorne Balfe started from me politely asking for artist credits. This is a cool place.Lorne Balfe didnt work at this score!!!!
Exactly Solomon !<br>THe use of the krypton theme in the spaceship scene made this moment more intense and it felt... natural... as if the rest of the music doesnt blend in the atmosphere we were used to with the previous movies.@scarecrow9: Wikipedia says that filming originally wrapped in October 2016, and that Zack was taken off the project in May 2017. That's at least 6 months of post-production, so hopefully yes.<br>@Leonard Dante: You don't think it's disrespect to Snyder that the film bears his name but Whedon cut it up and redid his story with terrible reshoots and replaced his nominated composer?<br><br>Lastly, I will say that I watched the film earlier today and thought it was absolutely terrible. The best part was the few seconds where Zimmer's "Krypton" theme was playing in the scoutship!Hybrid, do you think that the Snyder´s Cut could really exist somewhere? Let alone with Tom´s score, do you think that he even began scoring the film? I would love to see that version. Thank you for your answerBalfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers<br>=================================<br><br><br>Even composers who do one or two movies a year receive help. So it's very, very hard for me to believe that Balfe - with the amount of movies he works on now - is out there by himself, scoring it all by himself. It's simply not possible. And this is the MV/RC world after all. Composers help each other all the time. And many of these collaborations don't even make it to this site. It's very hard to keep track of everything.imo whedon and elfman screwed up the movie, i'd say Zacks original cut would be better, then again thats just me tho
Perhaps. But it would be a disrespect to Whedon and Elfman. Okay. If that means more money on the table, they will.HOPE NEVER DIES.<br><br>Sources confirm this days on social media that Zack Snyder Original Cut of Justice League not only exists, but have VFX's work and Junkie XL's score on it.<br><br>That could be really EPIC.<br><br>The Fight for this can happens is bigger every minute passes, dont lose the faith, not now.Cannot freaking wait!"Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers"<br><br>As if. Just look through this site and you'll see additional guys credited for lots of his scores. Max Aruj, Steffen Thum, Thomas Farnon, Andrew Kawczynski on some projects...he's a very busy guy but I promise you he doesn't do every single second of his 15 scores a year on his own.Bayhem - Balfe is one of the few that hasn’t got additional writers though.which films has this small army of ghostwriters ???!!!!!!
You say Balfe worked on the last Transformers(2017). Okay. He may have been called by the Paramount. However, his involvement with the franchise in 2005 and in the following years happened because of the RCP and Zimmer's direct involvement in the project. There in 2005, 2007, 2011, 2014 he was a guest of RCP/MV and no received no call for help of the Paramount. There is no other way.he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter .<br>.....................................<br><br><br>I've asked him a lot of stuff. We're Facebook friends. And yes, I know he worked on the first one. I clearly said it a couple of times in my replies here. He worked on the first one and the second one as well. But if you try to imply that Balfe deserves the credit for these scores, you are way, way off the mark. And it's very disrespectful to Jablonsky. Very.<br><br>Now, clearly you like Balfe a lot. Fine. But please don't undermine a far more experienced and successful composer like Jablonsky, just because Balfe is the "hot MV/RC composer" at the moment. We, the Jablonsky fans, certainly didn't act that way in 2007 when Jablonsky's name was everywhere and people were going crazy for the Transformers score. No one denies that Balfe worked hard on the Transformers films. But he's not the "main guy". Just like a lot of MV/RC composers have worked on HIS scores and they're not the main composers. You think Balfe scores all of his movies alone? Nope. Like any other successful and busy composer out there, he's supported by a small army of ghostwriters.Studio = Paramount and he worked on the first transformers . And did a lot. Why not ask him on twitter . I did !!!!!!Balfe never worked for Jablonsky =========================================<br><br>By "worked for Jablonsky" I meant he worked ON Jablonsky scores. And as James said, it's all MV/RC anyway. They all know each other and help each other. The first Transformers movie started post-production at the end of 2006. Back then no one knew who Balfe was (aside from the biggest MV/RC fans). His big break arguably came in 2009-2010. Years after the first Transformers movie. So no matter how we spin it, he still came after Jablonsky. Jablonsky is his senior and obviously has much more experience. And we have to respect that. <br><br>That was my point.Should have gotten one for Interstellar, not this.
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Mark MancinaDave MetzgerDon HarperDaniel Pinder
ComposerAdditional MusicConductorMusic Editor
Moana
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 120'06
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CD1
  1. Tulou Tagaloa - Olivia Foa'i (0:52)
  2. An Innocent Warrior - Vai Mahina, Sulata Foai-Amiatu, Matthew Ineleo (1:38)
  3. Where You Are - Christopher Jackson, Rachel House, Nicole Scherzinger, Auli'i Cravalho, Louise Bush (3:31)
  4. How Far I'll Go - Auli'i Cravalho (2:44)
  5. We Know The Way - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (2:22)
  6. How Far I'll Go (Reprise) - Auli'i Cravalho (1:28)
  7. You're Welcome - Dwayne Johnson (2:44)
  8. Shiny - Jemaine Clement (3:06)
  9. Logo Te Pate - Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Talaga Steve Sale (2:11)
  10. I Am Moana (Song Of The Ancestors) - Rachel House, Auli'i Cravalho (2:43)
  11. Know Who You Are - Auli'i Cravalho, Vai Mahina, Olivia Foa'i, Opetaia Foa'i, Matthew Ineleo (1:13)
  12. We Know The Way (Finale) - Lin-Manuel Miranda, Opetaia Foa'i (1:10)
  13. How Far I'll Go (Alessia Cara Version) - Alessia Cara (2:56)
  14. You're Welcome (Jordan Fisher/Lin-Manuel Miranda Version) - Jordan Fisher, Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:18)
  15. Prologue (2:26)
  16. He Was You (0:51)
  17. Village Crazy Lady (0:46)
  18. Cavern (2:06)
  19. The Ocean Chose You (1:18)
  20. The Hook (1:10)
  21. Tala's Deathbed (2:01)
  22. Battle Of Wills (3:11)
  23. Kakamora (4:34)
  24. Wayfinding (1:53)
  25. Climbing (0:55)
  26. Tamatoa's Lair (2:46)
  27. Great Escape (1:00)
  28. If I Were The Ocean (3:02)
  29. Te Ka Attacks (1:42)
  30. Maui Leaves (2:06)
  31. Heartache (0:40)
  32. Tala Returns (1:02)
  33. Sails To Te Fiti (5:47)
  34. Shiny Heart (0:37)
  35. Te Fiti Restored (1:04)
  36. Hand Of A God (0:31)
  37. Voyager Tagaloa (0:58)
  38. Toe Feiloa'i (1:26)
  39. Navigating Home (0:48)
  40. The Return To Voyaging (1:02)
CD2
  1. Unstoppable (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (4:00)
  2. More (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (3:17)
  3. More (Reprise) (Outtake) - Marcy Harriell (2:39)
  4. Warrior Face (Outtake) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:17)
  5. Where You Are (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:02)
  6. You're Welcome (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (2:38)
  7. Shiny (Demo) - Lin-Manuel Miranda (3:05)
  8. Prologue (Score Demo) (2:27)
  9. Village Crazy Lady (Score Demo) (0:45)
  10. Cavern (Score Demo) (2:06)
  11. Kakamora (Score Demo) (3:59)
  12. It's Called Wayfinding (Score Demo) (0:54)
  13. Maui Leaves (Score Demo) (2:05)
  14. Sails To Te Fiti (Score Demo) (1:38)
  15. Maui Battles (Score Demo) (1:58)
  16. Sea Monsters (Score Demo) (0:46)
  17. Tala Returns (Score Demo) (1:16)
  18. How Far I'll Go (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:45)
  19. You're Welcome (Instrumental Karaoke) (2:44)
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Bob Smith reply Replies: 2 || 2016-12-12 08:44:47
Is this a complete score Hybrid?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-12 16:40:12
Nope, far from it, lots of short cues missing here & there, not that much significant material though...


Bob Smith2016-12-13 07:33:47
Thanks a lot man. It's really cool to have someone who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 4 || 2016-11-26 18:22:02
Would welcome any attempt at putting the tracks in chronological order for this one.


Carly2016-11-28 03:12:20
After seeing the movie, this is how I would order CD 1 chronologically:

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
How Far I'll Go
He Was You
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills [this one might go before "You're Welcome"]
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)

I'm not positive, though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!


Carly2016-11-28 03:37:08
Actually, I think "He Was You" comes before "How Far I'll Go."


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-03 17:51:40
I confirm your correct order Carly, with a couple of corrections ! :)

Tulou Tagaloa
Prologue
An Innocent Warrior
Where You Are
He Was You
How Far I'll Go
Village Crazy Lady
Cavern
We Know the Way
The Ocean Chose You
The Hook
Tala's Deathbed (after 1:15 seems unused)
How Far I'll Go (Reprise)
You're Welcome
Battle of Wills
Kakamora
Wayfinding
Climbing
Tamatoa's Lair
Shiny
Great Escape
If I Were the Ocean (first 2:07)
Logo Te Pate
If I Were the Ocean (after 2:07)
Te Ka Attacks
Maui Leaves
Heartache
Tala Returns
I Am Moana (Song of the Ancestors)
Sails to Te Fiti
Shiny Heart
Know Who You Are
Te Fiti Restored
Hand of a God
Voyager Tagaloa
Toe Feiloa'i
Navigating Home
The Return to Voyaging
We Know the Way (Reprise)


0-^-02016-12-04 18:23:46
Thank You all for your contributions!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2016-11-21 11:57:38
I just had a listen to this (the score portion at least), and while it's nice and the Hawaiian elements (a beautiful flute and chanting choir) are worked in pretty well, I can't help but be a little disappointed. The many short tracks make it feel very fragmented and there's hardly any thematic material to hold it together. Definitely the best tracks are the long action cues "Kakamora" and "Sails to Te Fiti", but even they change rhythm every ten seconds and are a little frustrating. You can definitely tell that the score is composed to fit in between a lot of songs because it seems to lack a narrative of its own.

It's still worth listening to, but don't expect anything on the level of Planes.

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rockhound2016-11-21 14:29:34
with the songs it is the same. mancina did co-write the music for a couple of them and produced almost all of them and you can hear that. all the songs have melodies, but none of them shines out as a theme song like for example in Tarzan or The Lion King. none of the songs has a very strong melody, but they capture the hawaiian feeling perfectly as the score does. if you listen to the album as a whole, the concept works.


Arose2016-11-29 07:12:15
Just FYI, not everything Polynesian is Hawaiian. There are like numerous other cultures (much older, approx 3000yrs old) than the Hawaiian culture (which is only about 900-1300yrs old). So the story and the music of Moana is actually based and from those older cultures (I.e Tulou Tagaloa is entirely Samoan).

JB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-17 18:51:44
The album structure is very similar to the Frozen soundtrack. Fisrts disc original songs followed by the original score. Second disc outtakes, demos and instrumentals from the original songs and the score.

Macejko reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-19 10:18:01
Mark needs to properly return to the scoring game. Seriously, it's long overdue. I feel like I've been waiting for Moana for centuries and I'm really excited.


Peter2016-11-04 21:36:36
totally agree, why he is scoring so rarely?

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 0 || 2016-10-18 14:11:58
2CD !!! :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-10-18 12:07:53
New Mancina to come !


isildur2016-10-18 12:49:08
Really excited about this. Mark writes some beautiful melodies. Just like Atli, he doesn't get as much as he deserves.

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