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Seville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.Can we stop? I agree with the other guy more in his points, but it's clear that this is gonna keep going nowhere if you're gonna be so overly defensive about something that you claim is merely subjective.But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br>======================<br><br><br>Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1. <br><br>So no, "challenging the viewer" is not about Transformers. You chose to focus on these movies. Not me. I was actually reffering to Bay movies like The Island and especially Pain and Gain. <br><br>But I guess you like to talk only about Transformers.....Good for you. But that's not how a discussion works. <br><br><br>===================<br>Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br>===================<br><br><br>So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic? <br><br>Wow! Just wow!<br><br>Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything. For you, that is apparently the normal behavior.<br><br><br>======<br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality.<br>=======<br><br>Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality. Also, a "bad" movie to you is the greatest movie for the guy walking next to you on the street. As Kevin Smith said: "Every movie is someone's favorite movie". <br><br>Let's try to keep that in mind.<br><br><br>============<br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br>============<br><br>Really?<br><br>Then what do you have to say about Pacific Rim 1. I present to you.......the pure numbers:<br><br>Budget: $200 million. And that doesn't include the marketing cost.<br>Worldwide gross: $411,002,906<br><br>So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?<br><br>Wow! Just.....wow!Yeah lol back then only Harold was confirmed.Can you tell me a names of cues, that was been on Klaus website?
Formality indeed. Complicated ! lol<br><br>You can bet Blake Neely didn't need anyone to "write" those 10 seconds !! lolI always found these credits to be a bit confusing. Klaus Badelt is credited on almost every cue, even when his themes don't appear and another additional composer is credited as well. I thought maybe it was just a formality that Zimmer and Badelt were credited everywhere (I mean, how much could they be involved on a cue like "Welcome to the Caribbean"?), but then "No real ship" and "Sword Fight Pt. 2" have no Badelt for some reason. Does someone know a bit more about this?well the composer confirmed he is working on it to be released very soon<br>"It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain."<br><br>I didn't think it was possible for a Bay fan of all people to be this insufferably pretentious.<br><br>I thought that was more Snyder fanboy territory.<br><br>But here we are, calling dog-humping, Decepticon testicles, and mommy-on-pot-brownies "challenging the viewer."<br><br>Kudos, man. Kudos.<br><br>You can hide behind however many fallacies you want. If "Not to me" and "You do you" didn't give it away early on in this thread, I DIDN'T try to treat my opinions as fact.<br><br>But that doesn't mean I'm going to add a little "IMO" at the end of every goddamn sentence just to coddle you. <br><br>On the flip-side, consistently making appeals to authority and popularity, "B-b-but Spielberg said!", "B-b-but the Forbes poll said!" don't make you objective.<br><br>Y'know, it's funny. When I listed off better blockbuster examples, you could've very easily just argued against them on the level of the films themselves, and everything would've been fine.<br><br>Sure, you would've just claimed you can't see the action at night sooner, which is rich when you praise the film series that puts the subjects of its action scenes OUT OF FOCUS every other shot, but hey, that's just honest opinions versus honest opinions.<br><br>But using two belated half-assed sequels from different, less talented directors that lost most of the appeal of the first movies, as some sorta litmus test for how well-liked the first movies were, is the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard. That's not objectivity, that's not even confusing correlation with causation, that's saying 1+2=4.<br><br>That's the real joke here. Instead of accepting that your love of Bay is nothing more than a opinion, just as my claim that he misses the point of what makes action movies fun is, you turn into an overly-defensive nut, desperately quoting every opinion piece under the sun to pretend your opinion is some statistically-backed fact. I've seen you do this every time someone talks shit about Bay around here. It's psychotic.<br><br>Bad movies make money. Everyone knows that, and everyone knows that's not proof of quality. But if that's the kinda road you wanna go down, I guess movies like Avatar, The Force Awakens, or all the Avengers movies, are "objectively" better movies in every conceivable way than anything Bay has made in his entire career. I mean, CLEARLY those films must have a bolder style and push more boundaries.<br><br>Why else would more people watch and rewatch them, right?<br><br>Reasonable causation is for those goshdarn geek journos.<br><br>And by the way, The Last Knight lost money. Period. Almost 100M according to Paramount themselves.<br><br>That's not just a domestic bomb, that's a bomb altogether.<br><br>Have a nice day.Siding with the guy that lied through his teeth to feign objectivity seems like a bad call.<br>==================<br><br>Kinda ironic, coming from you....but I'll take it as a compliment. Thank you! <br><br>And yes, he sides with me because what I say is common sense. For whatever reason, you have these strong negative feelings toward Bay films and those feelings blind you to some pretty obvious truths. <br><br>Have to say tho - for a 'hater' you sure know A LOT about him, his style and his movies. <br><br>Just admit it - you are a huge Bay fan but you just want to score some points with the snobbish internet crowd. <br><br><br><br>============<br>In any case, modern Bay and Snyder don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Fury Road.<br>============<br><br>Oh, you're one of THOSE people......"Fury Roaaaaaaaaad is DA BEST FILM EVAAAAAAAA".<br><br>Let me guess: you also think that Nolan is the greatest director/person of all time. On par with Jesus himself. <br><br><br><br>==========<br>What DOES matter is scripts with razor focus, sharp pacing, witty and/or charming humor (if it wants humor, that is), and characters likable enough to carry us through the narrative.<br>==========<br><br>Which is what Transformers 1 is. <br><br>Which is why the movie connected with audiences. It was - at its heart - a story about a boy and his car. Even the most jaded critics enjoyed that aspect.<br><br><br>=============<br>And again, the likes of Pacific Rim, or 300, or the first Pirates of the Caribbean, or the first Kingsmen, or John Wick, or most Guy Ritchie films, or the better fourth of superhero films, illustrate that Bay and Snyder have no excuse.<br>=============<br><br>Excuse? For what?<br><br>My friend, you do realize that Bay in particular is one of the most powerful and successful filmmakers of all time, right? He is the second highest-grossing director of all time (domestically), only behind Spielberg. You can dismiss box office success all you want but you don't get to where Bay is if you're not good at your job. <br><br>Snyder is nowhere near Bay, in terms of success and influence. Personally, I don't care much about him. <br><br><br>P.S. Guy Ritchie (and Edgar Wright) are huge Bay fans. Ask yourself why. <br><br><br>===============<br>They just aren't very good filmmakers on the whole<br>===============<br><br>Your opinion.<br><br>I disagree.
Bay walks the lines between being self-serious and comical, but his films aren't well=written enough to serve the former, or witty enough to serve the latter, and the end-result is droll and annoying.<br>====================<br><br>You sure you're not a "writer" for one of those ridiculous geek sites like Collider, Screen Rant or Slash Film? Because you sound a lot like one of those "beloved" writers. <br><br>Anyway......Yes, Bay's movies always walk that line but whether that works or not is........Yes! a matter of opinion. For me, Pain and Gain is one of the best modern satires while for you it is - I'm guessing - "droll and annoying".<br><br>It's funny tho......people always complain how Hollywood plays it safe and how movies don't take chances..........but when a movie with tonal shifts that challenge the viewer and offer something bold shows up, people bitch and complain. <br><br>Some of you folks are indeed very hard to please. <br><br><br>===============<br>The first POTC earns it. The Bad Boys 2 doesn't. Infinity War earns it. TF 1/2/3/4/5 doesn't.<br>==============<br><br>Okay, now that statement is the best joke of the year! Thank you for the good laugh! Really! Oh, and I've definitely argued with you before, my friend. You are clearly one of those ten Bay haters from the IMDb forums who claim to hate everything the man does, yet they have seen EVERYTHING he had done. Why is that, I wonder?<br><br><br>===========<br>Fitting, as Synder and Bay are cut from a very similar cloth. Difference is, unless we're talking Man of Steel, I'd sooner rely on Snyder for consistently good action sequences<br>===========<br><br>Well, I would trust Spielberg on this. Because it was Spielberg who said, and I quote: "Michael (Bay) is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." Spielberg works with a lot of directors. But he never said anything like that about any other director. So clearly he means what he says about Bay. And....you know......unlike most people, Speilberg actually knows a thing or two about filmmaking. <br><br><br>================<br>300 didn't try to start a franchise. It was a one-off adaptation of a graphic novel in the same vein as Sin City, and was successful. They tried to make a cash-grab sequel almost a decade later, without Snyder, and it failed. That's hardly the first film's fault.<br>================<br><br>It is a clear proof that people weren't that excited to visit this world again. And mind you, that happened with the first sequel! Talk about a one-time thing, huh?<br><br>At the same time, Bay made FOUR Transformers movies - with different casts - before there were any signs of audience fatigue. <br><br>That speaks for itself.<br><br>===========<br>Pacific Rim suffered from lackluster marketing, and yet still managed to turn a profit and attract a strong following.<br>==========<br><br>Excuses, excuses, excuses.....So you can display all the excuses in the world for Pac Rim but when it comes to Transformers, you don't accept anything. <br><br>Double standard much?<br><br>P.S. That "strong following" is on the internet. The same following that was supposed to make Scott Pillgrim a huge hit. Everyone knows that internet hype is not real-world hype. I know very well the type of people who act as if Pac Rim is the best thing since sliced bread. Total geeks who are angry that Transformers is much more popular and much more successful than Del Toro's "let's shoot all the robot fights in pitch black so audiences can't see shit" movie. <br><br>Also, let's not pretend that Pac Rim is a universally beloved film. You know very well that there are A LOT of detractors as well. That's what you get when people can't tell what's going on during the movie because you shot it all at night. Just like that Godzilla movie. <br><br><br>============<br>Versus something like Transformers, which has piggybacked on an established IP, relentless marketing campaigns and tie-ins, and a fairly consistent release schedule. And even then, recycling the same bullshit eventually took its toll.<br>============<br><br><br>Wrong.<br><br>Do you read Forbes? You should. Because it's a place where objective people write. It ain't a stupid militant film geek site like Ain't it Cool News or Screen Rant.<br><br>Forbes published multiple articles explaining in great detail why the Transformers movies were successful EXACTLY because they were directed by Bay. Whether you like it or not, my friend, Bay is a brand. He is an auteur. There were multiple polls before the first two Transformers movies and Bay being the director was one of the main reasons for people to watch the movies. <br><br>But I guess you missed all of that, huh?<br><br>How convenient.<br><br><br>==============<br>Friendly reminder that AoE also relied on China (more pathetically then even Pacific Rim did) to compensate for diminishing domestic returns. To say nothing of TLK outright bombing.<br>==============<br><br>First: according to ACTUAL real data, the only TF movie that was saved by China is.......Bumblebee! Yeah, you better believe it. Go to Deadline and Forbes and read it for yourself.<br><br>Second: TLK bombed domestically, yes. <br>But not internationally. No one with actual knowledge of the situation refers to that movie as an international "bomb". Besides, there were 4 super successful TF movies before TLK. So Bay got nothing to prove. He already created one of the biggfest film franchises in history. <br><br>How many directors can say that?<br><br><br><br>==================<br>I know you like debunking Bay naysayers with "facts and logic," but it helps to not be grossly disingenuous while doing it<br>==================<br><br><br>Goes both ways, my friend. But unlike most naysayers, I don't treat my own personal opinions as facts. And if I'm being "disingenuous" then I don't even know what to say about some Bay haters who refuse to accept even the most obvious facts and truths.nopeYou realize there is a very easy and free method to get the music from that site, dont you?Random thought but this got me thinking about Zanelli's history with fantasy.<br><br>Whatever happened to his score for Delgo? I know it's been accused of being super derivative of his other works anyways but still, it's weird to see a RCP score just drop off the face of the Earth like that.There's just something really charming about seeing a prototype for a famous future theme showing up in an old score.<br><br>Or in PotC's case, SCORES.
The only ones I've seen properly confirmed are the cues Badelt had listed on his website. The issue with everything else is that there's certain themes that's been associated with certain people, but aren't credited for every appearance. Not to mention that I've never really seen much official credits elsewhere, so I take any that I've seen with a grain of salt.This comment was made before that was properly confirmed, so he was likely going to do it solo at the time.I thought Hans was collaborating with Faltermayer For Top Gun 2From both ASCAP and GEMACan these be accessed anywhere?
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Westworld (TV Series - Season 1)
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 108'56(Score:100'18)
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  1. Main Title Theme - Westworld (1:41)
    Ramin Djawadi
  2. Sweetwater (2:53)
    Ramin Djawadi
  3. Black Hole Sun (2:29)
    Ramin Djawadi (Soundgarden)
  4. Paint It, Black (5:44)
    Ramin Djawadi (The Rolling Stones)
  5. This World (2:29)
    Ramin Djawadi
  6. Online (4:19)
    Ramin Djawadi
  7. No Surprises (4:02)
    Ramin Djawadi (Radiohead)
  8. Dr. Ford (5:30)
    Ramin Djawadi
  9. A Forest (2:48)
    Ramin Djawadi (The Cure)
  10. Reveries (3:00)
    Ramin Djawadi
  11. Nitro Heist (3:32)
    Ramin Djawadi
  12. Motion Picture Soundtrack - Radiohead by Vitamin String Quartet (2:42)
  13. Freeze All Motor Functions (3:03)
    Ramin Djawadi
  14. Pariah (3:08)
    Ramin Djawadi
  15. Fake Plastic Trees (2:14)
    Ramin Djawadi (Radiohead)
  16. MIB (3:06)
    Ramin Djawadi
CD2
  1. The Maze (4:05)
    Ramin Djawadi
  2. House Of The Rising Sun (1:24)
    Ramin Djawadi (The Animals)
  3. Trompe L'Oeil (5:04)
    Ramin Djawadi
  4. What Does This Mean (3:04)
    Ramin Djawadi
  5. Something I Can Never Have - Nine Inch Nails by Vitamin String Quartet (5:56)
  6. White Hats (2:27)
    Ramin Djawadi
  7. Back To Black (1:58)
    Ramin Djawadi (Amy Winehouse)
  8. No One's Controlling Me (1:59)
    Ramin Djawadi
  9. Memories (3:44)
    Ramin Djawadi
  10. No Surprises (Stride Piano) (2:37)
    Ramin Djawadi (Radiohead)
  11. Violent Delights (4:58)
    Ramin Djawadi
  12. Someday (3:40)
    Ramin Djawadi
  13. Sweetwater Stride (0:41)
    Ramin Djawadi
  14. Do They Dream (1:48)
    Ramin Djawadi
  15. The Stray (2:18)
    Ramin Djawadi
  16. Bicameral Mind (4:25)
    Ramin Djawadi
  17. Exit Music (For A Film) (4:26)
    Ramin Djawadi (Radiohead)
  18. Reverie (1:42)
    Ramin Djawadi (Claude Debussy)
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JBSO99 reply Replies: 2 || 2018-04-10 19:24:31
I have revisited this score and I have to say that it has grown on me a lot. It has many themes that are developed during the different tracks and in the show the develop of this themes is even better.
I noticed there are several interesting pieces missing, but I suppose we can't have all of it on the first release.

I cannot wait for the Season 2 to discover what Djawadi has created. I hope he is able to develop his old themes as well as creating some new interesting ones. Cannot wait!

Backbiter2018-04-10 23:29:31
Yeah, my favourite has to be The Maze Theme.

JBSO992018-04-11 16:10:19
My personal favourite it's the theme of This World, that I think is like the Dolores theme. I also like a lot the Dr Ford theme and all of its variations.

RaminFan reply Replies: 3 || 2017-02-05 11:02:01
Can someone explain witch cue is from witch episode ?

Felix2017-07-15 19:03:53
Nobody???

Iamtommie2017-12-17 21:08:26
Does anybody know a chronological order?? I tried myself but I can't work it out.

Max Potcats2017-12-17 23:05:15
I just rewatch the show and i think this is mostly chronological, but there is some suites like Dr Ford we can ear in episode 3,4 6 9 etc.
So this is hard to say chronological or not. By the way, lots of variations of Dr Ford aren't on the album, but obviously we can have the whole score on a CD.
Did you know if Ramin even release a complete score from his tv show?

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-07 10:12:12
Still amazed by this brilliant score by Ramin Djawadi. Such great themes, looking forward to hear wat he is going to bring in season 2.

But I was wondering, in Episode 2 there is a scene in which we see Maeve run away with a child through a field... Does anyone know what track on the score is being used in this scene ? Thanks.

0-^-0 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-08 06:21:08
What an amazing score. Djawadi is really pushing his game up. Bravo!

Frenchans reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-07 13:14:58
Where is the track that we can hear during the "Anthony Hopkins Show" at the end of the 7th episode ???!!

TPM007 reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-07 12:28:57
Anyone know if there'll be a physical release of this at all?

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-05 13:28:48
Wow the score is amazing. Thought Ramin had outdone himself this year with season 6 of GoT but this is another brilliant score!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-03 11:56:52
Full OST details ! Out in 2 days !

Waymann2016-12-03 14:05:40
I was just wondering when the full ost would be available and look there's good news. Can't wait!

Anonymous2016-12-04 01:30:49
I see "Black Hole Sun", "Paint It, Black" and "House of the Rising Sun" made it over from the EP. I also see a track called "Back to Black". Is that Back to Black as in Amy Winehouse's Back to Black??

Anonymous2016-12-05 01:12:58
Samples are up on Amazon.

Frank reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-04 06:45:07
Here's the album for The Great Wall: www.musicbox-records.com/ en/ cd-soundtracks/ 4247-the-great-wall.html

OKKU reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-01 21:06:44
03-Paint It Black Wonderful!!!! Thanks Ramin Djawadi

MasterZPrime reply Replies: 0 || 2016-11-02 04:13:52
Been excited for a soundtrack release since the first episode. Ramin is amazing with TV scores, glad to see his Paint It Black arrangement won't be hidden and locked away in a vault never to be heard on its own, can't wait for the full thing.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2016-10-31 19:28:03
Surprise preview EP release of Westworld !
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Mephariel2016-10-31 19:35:54
Awesome. The Main Title Theme is one of my favorites from Djawadi.

Waymann2016-10-31 20:40:10
Nice to have the main theme already on my ipad!
But will there be a full album release of the score ?

Hybrid Soldier2016-10-31 21:22:01
Of course !

Anonymous2016-10-31 23:38:37
Are "Black Hole Sun" and "Paint It, Black" pieces by Djawadi or are they the actual songs?

Hybrid Soldier2016-11-01 10:53:26
They are the Ramin arrangements of the songs !

youl2016-11-01 12:15:41
any news on the original ost release date

Anonymous2016-11-01 12:54:43
That's awesome! Thank you :)
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