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For everyone that's heard it, is the Deluxe Edition worth a double dip?@Hybrid is this the combination of FYC promotional score + official release by LLL?Use your hybrid skills to unravel the mysteries of the score.Cuesheet is blank.oh yes please, including Balfe - dont start yelling, Im just really curious who did what
Finally! It would be nice to have composers credits@DT<br>Disney definitely tries to put quality into their projects, which is why I admire them. As youve said, WDAS and Pixar are both churning out some excellent and original films. Even Marvel, despite its formula and flaws, tries new things with the films and stick closely to the source material. <br><br>The problem with the remakes is that they seem to be nothing more than cash-grabs that prey on nostalgia. If you are going to retell a beloved story at least try something different and exciting, instead of trying to copy/paste what everyone has seen.This is where I wish we could edit our comments.<br><br>Not only do you have WDAS doing mostly-new movies (I hesitate to say 'original') but you have Pixar doing them as well. Toy Story 4 was their last sequel for the foreseeable future, with them even eschewing the popular option of doing an Inside Out sequel for original projects.I feel like people are overreacting in a way that suggests these remakes have far more power than they actually do. The studio that makes them is separate from every other studio. WDAS is still creating new content and will be for many, many years to come, long after the remakes have had their heyday.<br><br>If anything, the proliferation of superhero films is far more likely to drown out originality on that front: there are multiple studios doing it.Order I went with for the album<br><br>Everything I Need (Film Version)<br>Arthur		<br>Home Invasion (Bonus Track)<br>It Wasn't Meant To Be<br>Permission To Come Aboard<br>Ask the&#8239;Sea (Bonus Track)<br>Atlantean Soldiers<br>Ahab Waves (Bonus Track)<br>Saving Pops (Bonus Track)	Soundtrack	0	1<br>Swimming Lessons	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis<br>The Legend of Atlan	<br>The Ring of Fire	<br>What Does That Even Mean?Soundtrack	0	<br>Obligation (Bonus Track)	<br>Dunes (Bonus Track)	<br>Map In a Bottle<br>Mera&#8239;Montage	<br>The Black Manta	<br>Trench Engaged (From Kingdom of the Trench)	Soundtrack	0	<br>Reunited		<br>What Could Be Greater Than a King?<br>Suited and Booted		<br>Between Land and Sea		<br>He Commands the Sea	<br>Ocean To Ocean (feat. Rhea)	<br>Everything I Need		<br>Suited & Booted (Our Empire Remix)<br>The Black Manta (feat. Jim Davies) [Future Funk Squad Remix]<br>Atlantean Soldiers (Glen Nicholls 'March In Formation' Remix)	<br>Kingdom of Atlantis (Glen Nicholls 'Escape to Atlantis' Remix)
Same here. The cue I want the most is We Strike First.@Edmund<br>I cant agree enough. These remakes suffer from the issue of being inferior to the original source material, mainly because they rely so heavily on copying the originals so heavily. Im not necessarily against Disney updating their classics if they are willing to do new takes on the material. Take Jungle Book for example; they were able to do something fresh with the concept while keeping elements of the animated film. Even Maleficent, which Im not crazy about, tried something new. <br><br>Another BIG issue Ive noticed is the fact that they lean towards hiring actors who cannot sing, or at least cannot sing on the level required. Emma Watson, Will Smith, Chiwetel Ejiofor, etc.Best shot <br>It wasnt meant to be<br>Home invasion<br>Ahab waves (0:39-end)<br>Permission to come aboard?<br>Ask the sea<br>Ahab waves (0:00-0:38)<br>Saving pops<br>Swimming lessons<br>Kingdom of atlantis<br>Legend of atlan<br>Ring of fire<br>What does that even mean?<br>Ocean to ocean<br>Obligation<br>Dunes<br>Map in a bottle<br>Black manta<br>Mera montage<br>Between land and sea<br>Trench engaged<br>What could be greater than a king?<br>Suited and booted<br>He commands the sea<br>Reunited<br>Everything i need<br><br>"Arthur" and "Atlantean Soldiers" are probably suitesJust want shrike death cue!I feel as though Menken did a bit more to differentiate his 2017 Beauty and the Beast from the 1991 one. The major pieces like "Prologue" and "Transformation" were left relatively intact but otherwise the rewrite was a bit more substantial than what Zimmer and crew did here. Compare the final battle music from the original (which consists to a large degree of upbeat instrumental versions of "Be Our Guest") to the remake (which is largely serious, straightforward orchestral action music). I haven't heard his new Aladdin so I'm not sure what the old:new ratio was there.<br><br>I'm not necessarily complaining, this is basically what I expected the score would be from the moment it was announced. The problem lies deeper, with the entire premise of these pointless remakes that allow very little wiggle room for freshness or creativity. Of course, I have no doubt this movie will make north of a billion dollars and give the Disney execs further license to print money. Maybe by the time they've remade every single film in their vault enough time will have passed that they can just start from the beginning again and nobody need ever be subject to the indignity of an original story ever again.
It's a variation of the theme Anthem from the first Top Gun film by Harold Faltermeyer.whats the name of the song being played in this trailer?<br>is it available onlineThis is the perfect companion piece to the original. It is like the high level concert version that Zimmer never did with the original Lion King.Is there any form of chronological order to the original with the deluxe tracks?Looks like your wish was granted ;)<br>
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Ramin DjawadiBrandon CampbellGavin GreenawayStephen Coleman
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The Great Wall
Label: Milan Records
Length: 62'07
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  1. Nameless Order (4:27)
  2. Prologue (1:49)
  3. What A Wall (3:46)
  4. The Great Wall (4:30)
  5. First Battle (7:39)
  6. Captive Heroes (1:38)
  7. A Clean Start (2:27)
  8. We Are Not The Same (3:17)
  9. Funeral Song (3:01)
  10. Foggy Loyalty (3:02)
  11. Fog And Fire (3:01)
  12. The Greed Of Man (1:57)
  13. Fools And Thieves (3:16)
  14. The Great Experiment (2:54)
  15. Bianling Boogie (3:43)
  16. Tower Tactics (4:20)
  17. Powder Rangers (3:27)
  18. Xin Ren (3:55)
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tito reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-19 12:42:07
good music

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-23 01:55:37
Can anybody give me a list of the names of themes and motifs in the movie. I would appreciate it.


Macejko2017-03-23 08:27:55
Sure, pal.

Blue female troops theme (heard in "Nameless Order")
Great Wall theme ("What a Wall")
William's theme ("The Great Wall")
Tao Tei (monsters) theme (first heard in "First Battle")
Tovar's guitar motif (briefly heard in "First Battle")

These are the most prominent/identifiable ones.


Joseph Solano2017-03-25 18:06:14
Thanks. Would the Blue Female Troops theme be considered Lin Mai's theme as well? And does Damon's character have a theme?


Macejko2017-03-25 21:46:35
I would need to rewatch the movie to be absolutely sure she doesn't have a separate theme. And the name of Damon's character is William, his theme is listed above :)


Joseph Solano2017-03-28 02:08:15
I wanted to see the movie and never did. Now I know what to listen for when I see it. Thanks for the help!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-05 01:32:39
This score is a lot of fun, honestly. Ramin has written better individual pieces than anything here but I'd say this is his most consistently entertaining album, never really gets boring (although sometimes I feel like he does sort of run out of ideas for action music rhythms and falls back on the same type of percussion a lot). Especially the first five tracks are great stuff, just very fun and entertaining. Love the Chinese choir additions.

Macejko, Mr. Djawadi Fanboy, you've been uncharacteristically quiet about this one, what did you think?


Macejko2017-03-05 10:14:35
Well Edmund my man, I obviously loved this album as well and I think that if we take GoT 6 out of the equation, this is Ramin's best score of the last year.
The first half of the album is a pure bliss for me, and although the second half doesn't pack that powerful of a punch, it's still great. After seeing the movie itself I was pleasently surprised of how many elements of the film were actually given a theme (like Pedro Pascal's character for example), albeit a small one.
When compared to Warcraft (which I also adored), that movie had sort of a primal, brute-force thing going on (obviously related to the nature of the Orcs). On the other hand, TGW is much more sweeping and adventurous and albeit a also fantasy film from the same year, I'd say those two scores are not interchangable at all. It just goes to show that Ramin puts a lot of serious thought into a movie, even if it's not a cinematic masterpiece (which, let's be honest, neither of those films were).

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 13:01:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmlThSrdiQ&index=3&list=PLf zW_wEeYxk49mJ4kq_YIeYYzybMGSHz0

And here's a little one behind-the-scenes!

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-18 00:09:37
Epic score.
A favorite together with Warcraft and Gears of War 4.


Adam Krysinski (Soundtracks.pl)2016-12-23 08:57:21
Expanded European CD Edition (with two more tracks & different cover) will be relased on January 13, 2017.


jjluffy2017-01-15 11:05:00
It would seem that it is the digital version that contains 20 tracks. There seems to be only one cd version with 18 tracks.


rockhound2017-01-16 13:44:33
i really like that end song. very nice melody. would be cool to have it on cd.

Adam Krysinski (Soundtracks.pl) reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-23 08:57:43
Expanded European CD Edition (with two more tracks & different cover) will be relased on January 13, 2017.


Macejko2016-12-23 16:27:32
Thanks for the info, pal! I absolutely adore this score. Although it seems that there is only one track composed by Ramin, the other two appear to be songs by some chinese artists.

MB reply Replies: 5 || 2016-12-16 17:18:11
I've already listened to it. So what can I say? Nothing special. Yes, there are some interestings moments like flute and good choir. But... The main theme reminds me Backdraft and Beyond rangoon (this is not good), but in sum the score is 3 stars from 5. Badelt's Promise alot better.


Per2016-12-16 17:32:12
I hardly check out new scores anymore.. but Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon ? .. two of my favorite scores .. maybe I should try this then.

Btw. MB, do you mean the result is not good (even though Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon are), or that Beyond Rangoon (and/or Backdraft) is not good (the themes) ? Certainly Beyond Rangoon have one of the best theme(s) ever imho.


MB2016-12-16 17:42:37
Yes, I mean the result is not good (even though Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon are, which I love very much). Maybe the others don't hear the influence of Backdraft and Beyond rangoon, but I can hear it. The result is like I said, nothing special. But the other side this score hasn't the underscore crap, thats the good side. Strange thoughts))


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-16 17:46:11
It honestly sounds nothing like those scores... lol

It just sounds like Ramin, a more "actiony" Game of Thrones and less "darky" Warcraft, closer to Clash of The Titans...


MB2016-12-16 17:50:05
I mean that there are some elements in main theme which reminds these scores. That's it. I agree that its closer to clash of the titans, but more asian style.


Anonymous2016-12-17 12:57:38
I like it. Esp after the terrible Gears score this is a nice surprise.

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-16 10:14:53
Damn, track 4 The Great Wall is amazing!

MB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 22:05:04
This flute in Nameless order (1st half) reminds me Beyond Rangoon. This is cool)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 21:01:19
It's sounds really good :)

Waymann reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-14 21:41:19
First tracks is here! It's amazing. https://soundcloud.com/milanrecords/ramin-djawadi-nameless-o rder-from-the-great-wall-ost


mpolonest1232016-12-14 22:15:12
Wow, honestly didn't expect this. The string writing and percussion are 100% Ramin but the instrumentation and vocals are incredible. Really looking forward to this now.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-04 10:15:01
Thanks Frank for finding this !


Waymann2016-12-05 13:27:04
Comes out december 16 I read...

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