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Yeah, Mazzaro and AK would be more interesting choices, even Balfe.<br><br>Maybe Zimmer has more confidence in Wallfisch? He delivered Verbinsky's "Cure" gratuitously for him and then tied him up on two of his major projects last year.<br><br>When I refer to security, I talk about the "assurance of delivering a good job".Olive - wrong.Balfe has said it is used in the film on Twitter.Geostorm is fun, with a nostalgic nods to the old MV scores.<br><br>And much better than 12 StrongI know this story... It would be good if JP were like HZ in his public promises. xD<br><br>Well, the fact that Djawadi was not mentioned in the credits confirms that Balfe had not used the theme written by him, right?
About the score: Dunkirk's unimaginative copy (regardless of who is the lead author of the Nolan movie score).<br><br>Lego, really, was one of the best scores for animation last year. Churchill is a good accompaniment to the film and Genius is a fun listening with many moments that catch the ear.<br><br>Unfortunately, 12 strong and Geostorm were disappointing, but it is normal for any composer's career to have ups and downs, especially when working with so many numbers in a single year.<br><br>I agree with Mike that there is a very clear difference from when Hans is on a project and when one of his assistants goes to work alone. Pirates, WW and even Tarzan are there as more recent examples, all excellent scores, but you know there's something missing there.<br><br>On the problem with "hate" for Balfe, it is not unwarranted. It is a reaction to the exaggerated attention he has received over the past year, which overlaps with that received by other composers who work with universes with fan platforms far superior to those in which Balfe works. Jablonsky has the billion dollar franchise of the Transformers, Djawadi GoT and Henry Jackman has worked with the Marvel movies. Even Powell's entrance to SW might have made some noise, but nothing. None of these projects received such warm reception from the members of this site as Balfe's latest projects (with the exception of HZ, of course). That bothers me a little.<br><br>Curious to know what he will do with "Pacific Rim".<br><br>A lot of the time when a score's final action/battle sequence is split up among several tracks I edit them together into one track myself in Audacity. The most recent example was Black Panther with "The Great Mound Battle/Glory to Bast/The Jabari, Pt II". And my edit of the final battle music from King Arthur runs nearly 15 minutes. Maybe something similar will be possible for the last few tracks of this score.yeah that's just one though. We'll see!! no info on a release date, on lornes twitter it says it's coming out very soon."Shatterdome Attacked", at least we'll get one 7-minute action cue...<br><br>Also. TRACKLIST YOU GET DID WHERE???An agent isn't the problem. Powell is choosing to work less, and only on certain types of movies.
Damn the tracks are really short, i was hoping for some long epic music. Hopefully he'll deliver on the epic (I'm sure he will)Giacchino has some points about Powell because of the variety of his work. The man works on several beloved franchises through the pubic and every year makes some score for Pixar. From Powell, so far we've only had Bourne and the animated films from Dreamworks and Blue Sky. That's the only problem with him. The lack of a good agent to get projects beyond the territory conquered by him in the mid-00's.where got you did tracklist have been?Where did you get the tracklist ???????Where you get the tracklist?<br><br>;)
Ian<br>I would rather choose Giacchino over Powell any day.<br>Don't get me wrong, Powell is great but always found Giacchino's Scores much more memorable.<br>The only score made by Powell that i keep listening is Bourne's Supremacy.Ian<br>I would rather choose Giacchino over Powell any day.<br>Don't get me wrong, Powell is great but always found Giacchino's Scores much more memorable.<br>The only score made by Powell that i keep listening is Bourne's Supremacy.And @Ian, re: talent of assistants, to add to your point... Kick It was, according to Hybrid, Hansí theme turned into a suite by Balfe...so even there, with his interesting stuff, the nucleus of it is still Zimmer. If youíre talking about Training from Begins for Djawadi, ditto there. Hans said that was the first theme he (Hans) wrote for the movie. So in both cases, these guys kinda sound best when expanding on Hansí ideas.His KPM and Extreme library tracks are excellentOh I know! I'd say I've heard maybe 20 scores or so by him, so not totally useless, but he's definitely someone I still need to explore more.
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Ramin DjawadiBrandon CampbellGavin GreenawayStephen Coleman
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The Great Wall
Label: Milan Records
Length: 62'07
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  1. Nameless Order (4:27)
  2. Prologue (1:49)
  3. What A Wall (3:46)
  4. The Great Wall (4:30)
  5. First Battle (7:39)
  6. Captive Heroes (1:38)
  7. A Clean Start (2:27)
  8. We Are Not The Same (3:17)
  9. Funeral Song (3:01)
  10. Foggy Loyalty (3:02)
  11. Fog And Fire (3:01)
  12. The Greed Of Man (1:57)
  13. Fools And Thieves (3:16)
  14. The Great Experiment (2:54)
  15. Bianling Boogie (3:43)
  16. Tower Tactics (4:20)
  17. Powder Rangers (3:27)
  18. Xin Ren (3:55)
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Joseph Solano reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-23 01:55:37
Can anybody give me a list of the names of themes and motifs in the movie. I would appreciate it.


Macejko2017-03-23 08:27:55
Sure, pal.

Blue female troops theme (heard in "Nameless Order")
Great Wall theme ("What a Wall")
William's theme ("The Great Wall")
Tao Tei (monsters) theme (first heard in "First Battle")
Tovar's guitar motif (briefly heard in "First Battle")

These are the most prominent/identifiable ones.


Joseph Solano2017-03-25 18:06:14
Thanks. Would the Blue Female Troops theme be considered Lin Mai's theme as well? And does Damon's character have a theme?


Macejko2017-03-25 21:46:35
I would need to rewatch the movie to be absolutely sure she doesn't have a separate theme. And the name of Damon's character is William, his theme is listed above :)


Joseph Solano2017-03-28 02:08:15
I wanted to see the movie and never did. Now I know what to listen for when I see it. Thanks for the help!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-05 01:32:39
This score is a lot of fun, honestly. Ramin has written better individual pieces than anything here but I'd say this is his most consistently entertaining album, never really gets boring (although sometimes I feel like he does sort of run out of ideas for action music rhythms and falls back on the same type of percussion a lot). Especially the first five tracks are great stuff, just very fun and entertaining. Love the Chinese choir additions.

Macejko, Mr. Djawadi Fanboy, you've been uncharacteristically quiet about this one, what did you think?


Macejko2017-03-05 10:14:35
Well Edmund my man, I obviously loved this album as well and I think that if we take GoT 6 out of the equation, this is Ramin's best score of the last year.
The first half of the album is a pure bliss for me, and although the second half doesn't pack that powerful of a punch, it's still great. After seeing the movie itself I was pleasently surprised of how many elements of the film were actually given a theme (like Pedro Pascal's character for example), albeit a small one.
When compared to Warcraft (which I also adored), that movie had sort of a primal, brute-force thing going on (obviously related to the nature of the Orcs). On the other hand, TGW is much more sweeping and adventurous and albeit a also fantasy film from the same year, I'd say those two scores are not interchangable at all. It just goes to show that Ramin puts a lot of serious thought into a movie, even if it's not a cinematic masterpiece (which, let's be honest, neither of those films were).

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 13:01:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmlThSrdiQ&index=3&list=PLf zW_wEeYxk49mJ4kq_YIeYYzybMGSHz0

And here's a little one behind-the-scenes!

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-18 00:09:37
Epic score.
A favorite together with Warcraft and Gears of War 4.


Adam Krysinski (Soundtracks.pl)2016-12-23 08:57:21
Expanded European CD Edition (with two more tracks & different cover) will be relased on January 13, 2017.


jjluffy2017-01-15 11:05:00
It would seem that it is the digital version that contains 20 tracks. There seems to be only one cd version with 18 tracks.


rockhound2017-01-16 13:44:33
i really like that end song. very nice melody. would be cool to have it on cd.

Adam Krysinski (Soundtracks.pl) reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-23 08:57:43
Expanded European CD Edition (with two more tracks & different cover) will be relased on January 13, 2017.


Macejko2016-12-23 16:27:32
Thanks for the info, pal! I absolutely adore this score. Although it seems that there is only one track composed by Ramin, the other two appear to be songs by some chinese artists.

MB reply Replies: 5 || 2016-12-16 17:18:11
I've already listened to it. So what can I say? Nothing special. Yes, there are some interestings moments like flute and good choir. But... The main theme reminds me Backdraft and Beyond rangoon (this is not good), but in sum the score is 3 stars from 5. Badelt's Promise alot better.

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Per2016-12-16 17:32:12
I hardly check out new scores anymore.. but Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon ? .. two of my favorite scores .. maybe I should try this then.

Btw. MB, do you mean the result is not good (even though Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon are), or that Beyond Rangoon (and/or Backdraft) is not good (the themes) ? Certainly Beyond Rangoon have one of the best theme(s) ever imho.


MB2016-12-16 17:42:37
Yes, I mean the result is not good (even though Backdraft and Beyond Rangoon are, which I love very much). Maybe the others don't hear the influence of Backdraft and Beyond rangoon, but I can hear it. The result is like I said, nothing special. But the other side this score hasn't the underscore crap, thats the good side. Strange thoughts))


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-16 17:46:11
It honestly sounds nothing like those scores... lol

It just sounds like Ramin, a more "actiony" Game of Thrones and less "darky" Warcraft, closer to Clash of The Titans...


MB2016-12-16 17:50:05
I mean that there are some elements in main theme which reminds these scores. That's it. I agree that its closer to clash of the titans, but more asian style.


Anonymous2016-12-17 12:57:38
I like it. Esp after the terrible Gears score this is a nice surprise.

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-16 10:14:53
Damn, track 4 The Great Wall is amazing!

MB reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 22:05:04
This flute in Nameless order (1st half) reminds me Beyond Rangoon. This is cool)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 21:01:19
It's sounds really good :)

Waymann reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-14 21:41:19
First tracks is here! It's amazing. https://soundcloud.com/milanrecords/ramin-djawadi-nameless-o rder-from-the-great-wall-ost


mpolonest1232016-12-14 22:15:12
Wow, honestly didn't expect this. The string writing and percussion are 100% Ramin but the instrumentation and vocals are incredible. Really looking forward to this now.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-04 10:15:01
Thanks Frank for finding this !


Waymann2016-12-05 13:27:04
Comes out december 16 I read...

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