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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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Benjamin WallfischHans ZimmerChris CrakerGavin Greenaway
ComposerAdditional MusicScore ProducerConductor
A Cure For Wellness
Label: Milan Records
Length: 50'01
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  1. Hannah And Volmer (4:35)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  2. Nobody Ever Leaves (1:49)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  3. Bicycle (2:00)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  4. The Rite (3:42)
    Benjamin Wallfisch, Hans Zimmer
  5. Feuerwalzer (3:44)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  6. Magnificent, Isn't It? (2:11)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  7. Actually I'm Feeling Much Better (1:59)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  8. Clearly He's Lost His Mind (2:49)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  9. Our Thoughts Exactly (1:03)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  10. Volmer Institut (3:02)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  11. Terrible Darkness (3:18)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  12. Lipstick (4:21)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  13. Waiting (0:55)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  14. Zutritt Verboten (3:38)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  15. There's Nothing Wrong With You People (1:25)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  16. Lockhart's Letter (2:12)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  17. Volmer's Lab (3:32)
    Benjamin Wallfisch
  18. I Wanna Be Sedated - Mirel Wagner (3:38)
    The Ramones, Benjamin Wallfisch
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isildur reply Replies: 2 || 2018-07-21 22:11:53
Wallfisch just Retweeted the Shazam! trailer. Does that mean he is scoring it then? Hybrid can you say anything about this?


ThePhantasm2018-07-21 22:50:00
i don't doubt it, he and the director are good frineds and fans of each other, also they worked together on Annabelle so I'm willing to bet money he's the composer which is AWESOME


Hybrid Soldier2018-07-21 22:53:31
He is.

... reply Replies: 5 || 2018-01-26 02:05:13
ASCAP:

A Terrible Darkness
Actually I’m Feeling Much Better
Ambition
Ballerina Sting
Ballroom
Bar Fight
Bike To Town
Blue Dress/Volmers Vitamins
Bridge Flashback
Caretaker Gurney
Church Remains
Constabulary
Cow Foetus
Crayon Picture
Dead Morris
Deer Crash
Drive
Drive To Castle/Arrival
Elevator - Boardroom
Embryonic Chamber
End Roller Pts. 1 & 2
Exploring The Spa
Fire Waltz
Grotto Fight
Hannah Bedroom Nightmare
Hannah Hums
Hannah Pond
Isolation Tank
Laptop Battery
Lipstick
Lockhart’s Letter
Logos - Buildings
Lower Corridors
Main On Ends
Monk Chant
Mother Crematorium
Mother Flashback Pulse
Mother’s Music Box
Nosebleed Bend
Not Much, But Enough
OS Orchestra
P&L Sounds
Pembroke’s Letter
Photo Sting
Pool & Stairs
Pulse
Someone More Senior
Steam Room
Tampon
The Rite
There’s Something In The Water
Toilet Eels
Tooth Pull
Train - Helicopter
Trolly To Infusion
Underground
Unmasked
Urine Sample
Vent Pulse
Volmers Diagnosis
Volmers Lab
Waiting
Water Glass
Where You Began
Zombies


JBSO992018-02-01 13:15:28
Has anyone managed to order this tracks in chronological order? I'm trying to do it myself but there are a lot of track that I can't place, so any help would be great. Thanks


mpolonest123 2018-03-26 00:20:14
I want to second this. Probably one of my favorite scores of the past 5 years


mpolonest123 2018-06-23 21:35:25
This was such a nightmare to try and break down. Much like IT, there are dozens of short cues that bleed into each other. Not 100% Complete (missing 5 or 6 cues) but for the most part in correct order...

Logos - Buildings
Dead Morris
Elevator - Boardroom
Pembroke’s Letter
Someone More Senior
Train
Laptop Battery
Mother’s Music Box
Drive To Castle - Arrival
Vent Pulse
Water Glass
Drive
Mother Flashback Pulse
Mother Crematorium
Deer Crash
Exploring The Spa
Steam Room
Hannah Hums
Waiting
Nosebleed Bend
Volmers Diagnosis
Urine Sample
Isolation Tank
Bridge Flashback
There’s Something In The Water
Caretaker Gurney
Terrible Darkness
Church Remains
Hannah Pond
Ballerina Sting
Bike To Town
Crayon Picture
Tampon
Cow Fetus
Bar Fight
Lipstick
Hannah Bedroom Nightmare
Tooth Pull
Lower Corridors
Embryonic Chamber
Constabulary
Toilet Eels
Lockhart’s Letter
Underground
Volmer’s Lab
Grotto Fight
Zombies
OS Orchestra
Blue Dress - Volmer’s Vitamins
Monk Chant
Ballroom
The Rite
Pulse
Photo Sting
Unmasked
Fire Waltz
Actually I’m Feeling Much Better
Main On Ends
End Roller Pts. 1 & 2


Gore2018-06-24 01:37:18
Are you using the OST to break this down or all cues


mpolonest123 2018-06-24 02:28:26
I’m using the ASCAP titles in conjunction with the film. Certain cues on the OST are stitched together with several shorter cues (Lipstick and Terrible Darkness for example) and are out of order. I think Hybrid posted the film order.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-08-02 22:50:15
Hey Guys, Benjamin Wallfisch Has Released The Soundtrack Details Of Annabelle Creation In Film Music Reporter With The Track list And The Soundtrack Photos plus In Cd Version Will Be Released At Silva Screen Records & Digital Version At WaterTower Music.


Waymann2017-08-03 16:06:34
The score will be released digital tomorrow. The samples sound like a mix of orchestral sad/mysterious music en typical horror underscore.

Felix reply Replies: 8 || 2017-02-26 01:08:00
After I saw the movie I can explain a little bit:

Hannad & Volmer (Like the Opening Title)
Our Thoughts Exactly
Waiting
Volmer Institut
Nobody Ever Leaves
Terrible Darkness
Lockhart's Letter
Magnicifent, Isnt It?
Bicycle
Lipstick
Zutritt Verboten
Volmer's Lab
There is Nothing Wrong With You People
Clearly He's Lost His Mind
The Rite
Feuerwalzer
Actually I'm Feeling Much Better (End Credits)

So I think it would be the chronological order :)


Tim2017-02-26 05:41:10
No really original . Gore should have used Zanelli or Balfe


Felix2017-02-26 09:56:35
Why?! Wallfisch did a really good job


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-05 00:27:17
The final correct order is =>

Clearly He's Lost His Mind
Our Thoughts Exactly
Nobody Ever Leaves
Volmet Institut
Waiting
Terrible Darkness
Bicycle
Lipstick
Zutritt Verboten
Lockhart's Letter
There's Nothing Wrong With You People
The Rite
Feuerwaltzer
Magnificent, Isn't It?
Actually I'm Feeling Much Better
Hannah & Volmer

The only mix of "unchronological cues" is "Terrible Darkness", which has short parts from later in the film. "Hannah & Volmer" is the end credits piece.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-05 01:29:32
Funny, the chronological order is almost the exact reverse of the album order! Now all the horror stuff comes first and the action and thematic cues are more towards the second half, whereas on the album it was more the other way around. I think I prefer it this way, that way the score builds up to the good stuff rather than shooting its wad before the album is halfway over (so to speak...). It's a good score with some great material, but a lot if it is VERY hard listening, especially "Lipstick".

Also, Hybrid, where does "Volmer's Lab" go?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-05 10:03:29
Ha ! Forgot it !

It's between Lockhart's Letter & There's Nothing Wrong with You People.


Also, fun fact, in the End Credits of the movie there's a credit :

"Ribbons"
Composed by Hans Zimmer
Arranged by Benjamin Wallfisch
Performed by the Chamber Orchestra of London, Conducted by Gavin Greenaway

Some early ideas Hans wrote did end up in the score. Ribbons is basically the beginning of the waltz in "The Rite", at 2:08.


isildur2017-03-06 06:22:43
Interesting. So, it's just the beginning of the Waltz? How long is this "Ribbons" cue? Do you think we'll get to listen to it anytime soon?


FunnyML2017-06-04 11:26:35
My analysis goes like this:
56 cues in total, only released cues are mentioned here

02 Clearly He's Lost His Mind 3 1:55-End
04 Clearly He's Lost His Mind 1 0:00-1:10
06 Our Thoughts Exactly
10 Nobody Ever Leaves
14 Volmer Institut 2 1:18-End
18 Waiting
27 Terrible Darkness 1 0:00-1:46
28 Volmer Institut 1 0:00-1:18
30 Bicycle
32 Lipstick 1 0:00-2:08
33 Lipstick 2 2:08-End
37 Zutritt Verboten
42 Lockhart's Letter
44 Volmer's Lab
45 Terrible Darkness 2 1:46-End
46 Clearly He's Lost His Mind 2 1:10-1:55
48 There Is Nothing Wrong With You People
50 The Rite
53 Feuerwalzer
54 Magnificent, Isn't It
55 Actually I'm Feeling Much Better
56 Hannah And Volmer


JBSO992017-06-04 16:37:00
@FunnyML That new tracklist made me revisit the score and I realized (again) it's so amazing. I haven't watched the movie but I want to listen to the complete score to hear more of these beautiful melodies

Hideo reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-28 18:03:39
What's the name of that celestial music when Volmer gives Hannah a new dress and says to her "You're a woman now" ?


FunnyML2017-06-04 11:29:36
One of many unreleased cues, so we don't know (yet).

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-08 20:31:33
A little late to the game but I just wanted to praise this score a bit. When I first heard Hans wasn't going to be working on this project my heart immediately sank. Anytime Zimmer works with Verbinski, the end result is always spectacular (even Rango is very enjoyable, despite being a huge mess). I'm so glad I took the time to listen to this one though, Wallfisch delivered in HUGE spades!

Both themes introduced are marvelous, and it definitely speaks to Wallfisch's talent that he is able to utilize each idea without getting repetitive. One of the biggest bonuses is the variety of instrumentation and styles, ranging from the more traditional horror tropes to incorporating some beautiful vocals and even a waltz. If I had any complaints in regards to the album, its that it is far too short. By the time it ended I was hungry for more.

Hearing that he is going to score IT and Annabelle 2, I'm both intensely interested and a little nervous that he might get pigeonholed in horror. If you haven't heard his music for the Peter Pan stageplay (on Apple Music) definitely check it out, the man can write fantasy pretty damn good!

trent easton navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-18 16:24:42
I read on Facebook that Wallfisch will score the new It film. Hope it turns out to be true, he'd be a great choice

Leo reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-08 06:21:30
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can feel Hans' fingerprints all over the "Feuerwalzer" cue. ;)

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 12:59:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xEA6kwonEo

Here's a little behind-the-scenes!

James Strauss reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 04:39:56
Its the Full Score Avaliable?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2017-02-07 00:26:47
Suite added ! A good one ! :)


Ds2017-02-07 16:16:21
Oh yeah that suite is just amazing. Really impatient to hear the full thing, and above all to watch the movie!


Felix2017-02-07 21:43:13
Wow, great Suite, can't wait to listen to the complete album :)


Felix2017-02-07 23:04:20
It's on Spotify!! So a good album!!


JBSO992017-02-11 14:35:30
Wow, just when the girl's voice started to sing I got chills. It sounds awesome and creepy. I cannot wait to watch the movie and hear these in context.


Kalvin Koskela2017-02-11 18:23:30
You do not lie; this music is absolutely beautiful!


isildur2017-02-14 10:42:35
Listened to the score. Splendid work by Ben. Liked how it is beautiful yet creepy. Now, I don't mind much that Hans missed out on this :)


Michael Poleschuck2017-02-14 10:47:58
It's a life! Relax and enjoy the music of amazing Benjamin Wallfisch!


James Strauss2017-02-19 01:28:50
Its the Full Score Avaliable?

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-07 22:59:07
Benjamin Wallfisch Has Made Another Best Orchestral Score Better Than Lights Out Score. I Didn't Know That Soloist Voice Was From The Trailer
And Then I Hear It In This Soundtrack

I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

ei18 reply Replies: 2 || 2017-02-07 04:21:33
7:15 and onward reminds me of something, but I can't pinpoint it. Does anyone else hear a similarity to another score? It feels like Pirates and maybe something else?


Patrick2017-02-07 06:58:42
The Brass at 7:19 is very similar to Broken Arrow, but I guess you are talking about the staccato parts?


Edmund Meinerts2017-02-07 15:47:08
The rhythm and low brass both remind me a little bit of Dark Knight Rises (some parts of Bane's music).

Daniel reply Replies: 1 || 2017-02-05 21:39:50
So. What do you say?


Anonymous2017-02-05 22:54:08
I saw what are you on about

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-27 00:37:07
This Score Is Now Release Eariler in ITunes But i Found The Soundtrack Details Of A Cure For Wellness

1.Hannah And Volmer
2.Nobody Ever Leaves
3.Bicycle
4.The Rite
5.Feuerwalzer
6.Magnificent,Isn't It
7.Actually I'm Feeling Much Better
8.Clearly He's Lost His Mind
9.Our Thought Exactly
10.Volmer Institu
11.Terrible Darkness
12.Lipstick
13.Waiting
14.Zuttrit Verbotten
15.There's Nothing Wrong With You People
16.Lockhart's Letter
17.Volmer's Lab
18.I Wanna Be Sedated(Feat.Mirel Wagner)

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-20 17:02:30
I See The 2nd Trailer A Cure For Wellness And The Music Will Be Composed By Benjamin Wallfisch
Also I Think Is An Psychological Thriller Movie


Jack Afrogarrix 2016-12-20 17:03:37
And This Movie & The Soundtrack Is Going Freak Out

Everan reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 00:12:21
Hoping this creeps me out completely

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Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-10 13:33:47
An new movie for 2017 by benjamin wallfisch. I hope it will be same or different like the music of lights out.


Macejko2016-12-10 16:09:19
Shut the hell up already, Astérix.


trent easton navarro2016-12-11 15:46:06
So you hope it's the same... Yet, you also hope it's different?
So which is it, mate?


Edmund Meinerts2016-12-11 21:56:52
He's just trolling us now. :p

isildur reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-10 16:50:55
Hey Hybrid, is Hans overseeing this or completely Ben's project?. Am I mistaken or wasn't this the horror film Hans was supposed to do?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-10 16:52:45
Hans was going to score it but the score production happened exactly at the moment of the tour so Hans let Ben do it.

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