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final veredict?Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.
Cool insight on POTC 5 !Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-D
Hi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.
I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.Actually, iii, I expressed similar sentiments to yours in a reply below this post. :) Hans' absence is definitely felt. <br><br>As for Jackman vs. Zanelli, I'm not sure the two can be fairly compared. Yes, Henry made interesting arrangements, but most of what he did was the love theme from POTC 3. Zanelli, on the other hand, has worked on all four films and written a couple themes. So I feel like Jackman would have had to work on more for us to really say whether he's the stronger composer for the franchise.'I think they couldn't have picked a better composer than Geoff in Hans' absence'<br><br>I disagree, Mike. The strongest arrangements of Hans' material in the franchise were Henry Jackman. <br><br>'some would argue Geoff wasn't properly credited when Hans was in charge.'<br><br>'some' would be wrong. Geoff Zanelli was credited as an additional music arranger because that's what he did. The weakness of this score's ideas in comparison to particularly the third one speaks to the importance of the primary composer. There is nothing in this score the equivalent of "Marry Me" or "Hoist the Colors" or "Jack Sparrow" or "The Kraken" or even "Mermaids". <br><br>The score misses Zimmer big time, but I suspect if the film had looked interesting he might've been tempted back. The reality is Hans (love it or hate it) has a strong musical voice and you can feel its absence. <br><br>The main new theme is boring and the dreary cello version in the end credits is a completely over-used sound these days. And the mix of the whole score is appalling - even worse than On Stranger Tides flat soundscape. How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library? <br><br>Everything is just another backwards step. <br>Wow! 78 minutes of score! Cool.Man, I loved this movie.
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Benjamin WallfischHans ZimmerChris CrakerGavin Greenaway
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A Cure For Wellness
Label: Milan Records
Length: 50'01
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  1. Hannah And Volmer (4:35)
  2. Nobody Ever Leaves (1:49)
  3. Bicycle (2:00)
  4. The Rite (3:42)
  5. Feuerwalzer (3:44)
  6. Magnificent, Isn't It? (2:11)
  7. Actually I'm Feeling Much Better (1:59)
  8. Clearly He's Lost His Mind (2:49)
  9. Our Thoughts Exactly (1:03)
  10. Volmer Institut (3:02)
  11. Terrible Darkness (3:18)
  12. Lipstick (4:21)
  13. Waiting (0:55)
  14. Zutritt Verboten (3:38)
  15. There's Nothing Wrong With You People (1:25)
  16. Lockhart's Letter (2:12)
  17. Volmer's Lab (3:32)
  18. I Wanna Be Sedated - Mirel Wagner (3:38)
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mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-08 20:31:33
A little late to the game but I just wanted to praise this score a bit. When I first heard Hans wasn't going to be working on this project my heart immediately sank. Anytime Zimmer works with Verbinski, the end result is always spectacular (even Rango is very enjoyable, despite being a huge mess). I'm so glad I took the time to listen to this one though, Wallfisch delivered in HUGE spades!

Both themes introduced are marvelous, and it definitely speaks to Wallfisch's talent that he is able to utilize each idea without getting repetitive. One of the biggest bonuses is the variety of instrumentation and styles, ranging from the more traditional horror tropes to incorporating some beautiful vocals and even a waltz. If I had any complaints in regards to the album, its that it is far too short. By the time it ended I was hungry for more.

Hearing that he is going to score IT and Annabelle 2, I'm both intensely interested and a little nervous that he might get pigeonholed in horror. If you haven't heard his music for the Peter Pan stageplay (on Apple Music) definitely check it out, the man can write fantasy pretty damn good!

trent easton navarro reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-18 16:24:42
I read on Facebook that Wallfisch will score the new It film. Hope it turns out to be true, he'd be a great choice

Leo reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-08 06:21:30
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can feel Hans' fingerprints all over the "Feuerwalzer" cue. ;)

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-02-26 01:08:00
After I saw the movie I can explain a little bit:

Hannad & Volmer (Like the Opening Title)
Our Thoughts Exactly
Waiting
Volmer Institut
Nobody Ever Leaves
Terrible Darkness
Lockhart's Letter
Magnicifent, Isnt It?
Bicycle
Lipstick
Zutritt Verboten
Volmer's Lab
There is Nothing Wrong With You People
Clearly He's Lost His Mind
The Rite
Feuerwalzer
Actually I'm Feeling Much Better (End Credits)

So I think it would be the chronological order :)


Tim2017-02-26 05:41:10
No really original . Gore should have used Zanelli or Balfe


Felix2017-02-26 09:56:35
Why?! Wallfisch did a really good job


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-05 00:27:17
The final correct order is =>

Clearly He's Lost His Mind
Our Thoughts Exactly
Nobody Ever Leaves
Volmet Institut
Waiting
Terrible Darkness
Bicycle
Lipstick
Zutritt Verboten
Lockhart's Letter
There's Nothing Wrong With You People
The Rite
Feuerwaltzer
Magnificent, Isn't It?
Actually I'm Feeling Much Better
Hannah & Volmer

The only mix of "unchronological cues" is "Terrible Darkness", which has short parts from later in the film. "Hannah & Volmer" is the end credits piece.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-05 01:29:32
Funny, the chronological order is almost the exact reverse of the album order! Now all the horror stuff comes first and the action and thematic cues are more towards the second half, whereas on the album it was more the other way around. I think I prefer it this way, that way the score builds up to the good stuff rather than shooting its wad before the album is halfway over (so to speak...). It's a good score with some great material, but a lot if it is VERY hard listening, especially "Lipstick".

Also, Hybrid, where does "Volmer's Lab" go?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-05 10:03:29
Ha ! Forgot it !

It's between Lockhart's Letter & There's Nothing Wrong with You People.


Also, fun fact, in the End Credits of the movie there's a credit :

"Ribbons"
Composed by Hans Zimmer
Arranged by Benjamin Wallfisch
Performed by the Chamber Orchestra of London, Conducted by Gavin Greenaway

Some early ideas Hans wrote did end up in the score. Ribbons is basically the beginning of the waltz in "The Rite", at 2:08.


isildur2017-03-06 06:22:43
Interesting. So, it's just the beginning of the Waltz? How long is this "Ribbons" cue? Do you think we'll get to listen to it anytime soon?

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 12:59:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xEA6kwonEo

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James Strauss reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-19 04:39:56
Its the Full Score Avaliable?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2017-02-07 00:26:47
Suite added ! A good one ! :)


Ds2017-02-07 16:16:21
Oh yeah that suite is just amazing. Really impatient to hear the full thing, and above all to watch the movie!


Felix2017-02-07 21:43:13
Wow, great Suite, can't wait to listen to the complete album :)


Felix2017-02-07 23:04:20
It's on Spotify!! So a good album!!


JBSO992017-02-11 14:35:30
Wow, just when the girl's voice started to sing I got chills. It sounds awesome and creepy. I cannot wait to watch the movie and hear these in context.


Kalvin Koskela2017-02-11 18:23:30
You do not lie; this music is absolutely beautiful!


isildur2017-02-14 10:42:35
Listened to the score. Splendid work by Ben. Liked how it is beautiful yet creepy. Now, I don't mind much that Hans missed out on this :)


Michael Poleschuck2017-02-14 10:47:58
It's a life! Relax and enjoy the music of amazing Benjamin Wallfisch!


James Strauss2017-02-19 01:28:50
Its the Full Score Avaliable?

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-07 22:59:07
Benjamin Wallfisch Has Made Another Best Orchestral Score Better Than Lights Out Score. I Didn't Know That Soloist Voice Was From The Trailer
And Then I Hear It In This Soundtrack

I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

ei18 reply Replies: 2 || 2017-02-07 04:21:33
7:15 and onward reminds me of something, but I can't pinpoint it. Does anyone else hear a similarity to another score? It feels like Pirates and maybe something else?


Patrick2017-02-07 06:58:42
The Brass at 7:19 is very similar to Broken Arrow, but I guess you are talking about the staccato parts?


Edmund Meinerts2017-02-07 15:47:08
The rhythm and low brass both remind me a little bit of Dark Knight Rises (some parts of Bane's music).

Daniel reply Replies: 1 || 2017-02-05 21:39:50
So. What do you say?


Anonymous2017-02-05 22:54:08
I saw what are you on about

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-27 00:37:07
This Score Is Now Release Eariler in ITunes But i Found The Soundtrack Details Of A Cure For Wellness

1.Hannah And Volmer
2.Nobody Ever Leaves
3.Bicycle
4.The Rite
5.Feuerwalzer
6.Magnificent,Isn't It
7.Actually I'm Feeling Much Better
8.Clearly He's Lost His Mind
9.Our Thought Exactly
10.Volmer Institu
11.Terrible Darkness
12.Lipstick
13.Waiting
14.Zuttrit Verbotten
15.There's Nothing Wrong With You People
16.Lockhart's Letter
17.Volmer's Lab
18.I Wanna Be Sedated(Feat.Mirel Wagner)

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-20 17:02:30
I See The 2nd Trailer A Cure For Wellness And The Music Will Be Composed By Benjamin Wallfisch
Also I Think Is An Psychological Thriller Movie


Jack Afrogarrix 2016-12-20 17:03:37
And This Movie & The Soundtrack Is Going Freak Out

Everan reply Replies: 0 || 2016-12-15 00:12:21
Hoping this creeps me out completely

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-10 13:33:47
An new movie for 2017 by benjamin wallfisch. I hope it will be same or different like the music of lights out.


Macejko2016-12-10 16:09:19
Shut the hell up already, Astérix.


trent easton navarro2016-12-11 15:46:06
So you hope it's the same... Yet, you also hope it's different?
So which is it, mate?


Edmund Meinerts2016-12-11 21:56:52
He's just trolling us now. :p

isildur reply Replies: 1 || 2016-12-10 16:50:55
Hey Hybrid, is Hans overseeing this or completely Ben's project?. Am I mistaken or wasn't this the horror film Hans was supposed to do?


Hybrid Soldier2016-12-10 16:52:45
Hans was going to score it but the score production happened exactly at the moment of the tour so Hans let Ben do it.

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