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Smoothly done soundtrack. IGN - 10/10what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-
Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.
After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.
Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.
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Mark MancinaDon HarperJohn Van TongerenBruce Fowler
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicOrchestrator
Twister (Expanded Archival Collection)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 64'07
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  1. Wheatfield (Film Version)** (1:26)
  2. The Hunt Begins** (3:51)
  3. The Sky** (1:03)
  4. Dorothy IV (Film Version) (1:56)
  5. The First Twister* (0:49)
  6. In The Ditch - Where's My Truck? (2:00)
  7. Waterspouts** (2:49)
  8. Cow (5:42)
  9. Walk In The Woods* (2:05)
  10. Bob's Road (2:13)
  11. Hail No! (2:43)
  12. Futility (Film Version) (2:17)
  13. Drive-In Twister** (2:57)
  14. Wakita (Film Version)** (5:19)
  15. Sculptures (Film Version) (3:06)
  16. House Visit (4:47)
  17. The Big Suck (Film Version)** (1:47)
  18. End Title** (2:20)

    ADDITIONAL MUSIC
  19. Wheatfield (Alternate) (1:33)
  20. Waterspouts (Alternate)** (2:50)
  21. The Big Suck (Alternate) (1:13)
  22. End Title - Respect The Wind§ (9:21)

*Previously Unreleased
**Contains Previously Unreleased Material
§Written & Performed by Edward & Alex Van Halen
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Bayhem reply Replies: 4 || 2018-06-28 12:41:11
IMO, easily one of the best action-adventure scores. Mancina and his team knocked it out of the park. There's not a single track that I don't like. Love them all.

Compare this score to the scores we have today and you'll see how messed up a lot of modern scores are. What happened to THAT type of music? Adventurous, exciting, beautiful.....Seems to be gone nowadays.


P.S. I still don't know why they didn't include the "Leaving Wakita" track in any of the official releases of the Twister score. I think it's only available on YouTube....ripped from the movie. Not a great quality, but I'm glad someone did it. It's an awesome track. Pure Mancina.

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Mr Tweedy2018-06-28 13:26:24
The "Leaving Wakita" track is featured on this release (the "La La Land" one).
It's track 9 "Walk in the Woods".


superultramegaa2018-06-28 16:25:11
"What happened to THAT type of music? Adventurous, exciting, beautiful.....Seems to be gone nowadays."

Lost in Space, Transformers 5, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2, most animated films, the Destiny videogame soundtracks, The Hobbit films, Pirates of the Caribbean 5, Blue Planet II, Solo: A Star Wars Story, the final 2 Harry Potter films, Most John Powell works...

If you're speaking purely for RCP and generic action films, the answer is Hans Zimmer devolved and the industry devolved with him. If you're speaking for artful, obscure films, those scores have almost always had little substance besides sounding nice aesthetically.


Bayhem2018-06-29 10:23:06
Mr Tweedy,

Oh, wow! Had no idea. So much for my research then......lol.

Thanks!


Bayhem2018-06-29 10:37:41
superultramegaa,


Good examples, but - as much as I love them - they're just not the same as Twister and say, Jumanji. Hell, put Braveheart in there as well. Fact is, the 90's were an AMAZING decade for adventurous, melodic, exciting, beautiful scores. Scores that "lift you up". The only recent ones that can come close, IMO, are the Hobbit scores.

The recent MV/RC scores you mentioned are solid, but they're nowhere near Twister. With Twister, there's just more meat to the bones. The music fills you up. It's very hard to explain with words. And it's something that rarely happens nowadays, at least from my perspective. Most similar modern scores just feel......emptier. And yes, I talk mainly about mainstream big Hollywood scores. I think Zimmer's Inception was the point where things kinda changed. Sound design, crazy electronics and VROOOOOOOM, BROOOOOOOM play too much of a part nowadays. You rarely get something truly melodic. A real theme. Jablosnky gets really close, Powell gets really close, but still......a lot of it feels too artificial.

Yes, I get it - things change and we can't be stuck with the 90's scores forever, but I don't think things got better with film music. It's really sad actually - Horner (one of the great melodic composers) left us way too soon, Mancina is pretty much gone from mainstream Hollywood, Rabin rarely scores......It's like most of the great "melodic composers" are gone. It's really sad.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2016-12-30 23:09:59
Yes!!! :D

One of my holy grails, I'm especially looking forward to the orchestral lead-in for Humans Being.


Angelos2017-01-17 20:22:27
Finally, LaLaLand has done it! Many kudos to them!!!! One my holy grails as well. I've been waiting for this for ages!
Take my money LaLaLand Records! Just take it!


Kusi2017-01-17 21:06:44
There's a sample of this cue on their site :)


mpolonest1232017-01-17 23:54:49
And it sounds great! It also seems like the original end titles are included as well.

One interesting thing, the mix sounds a bit different in the samples. The percussion and brass are both more pronounced I think.

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