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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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Lorne BalfeMax ArujThomas FarnonQueenie Li
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The Lego Batman Movie
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 94'18 (Score: 60'08)
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CD 1 - SONGS
  1. Who's The (Bat)Man - Patrick Stump (3:03)
  2. Forever - DNCE (3:48)
  3. (I Just) Died In Your Arms - Cutting Crew (4:35)
  4. Invincible - Kirsten Arian (2:59)
  5. One - Harry Nilsson (2:22)
  6. Heroes (We Could Be) (Hard Rock Sofa & Skidka Remix) - Alesso Feat. Tove Lo (6:35)
  7. Man In The Mirror - Alex Aiono (2:23)
  8. Friends Are Family - Oh, Hush! Feat. Will Arnett & Jeff Lewis (3:49)
  9. I Found You - Fraser Murray & Lorne Balfe (3:34)
  10. Forever - Justin Tranter (3:49)
  11. Man In The Mirror - Richard Cheese & Lounge Against The Machine (1:49)
  12. Everything Is Awesome - Richard Cheese & Lounge Against The Machine (2:02)
CD 2 - SCORE
  1. Black (7:32)
  2. Your Greatest Enemy (2:42)
  3. The Arrival Of Robin (2:52)
  4. Joker Crashes The Party (1:33)
  5. No Seat Belts Required (2:17)
  6. To Cage The Joker (1:59)
  7. The Phantom Zone (3:37)
  8. Open For Business (1:09)
  9. Chaos In Gotham (3:20)
  10. Lava Attack (7:40)
  11. For Your Own Good (1:45)
  12. Joker Manor (2:29)
  13. Batman's In The Zone (4:40)
  14. The Babs Signal (2:25)
  15. Battle Royale (4:54)
  16. A Long Farewell (2:49)
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Miguel reply Replies: 1 || 2017-02-07 00:50:50
I can't find a physical release ? Doesn't anyone know were to get it


Jordan2017-02-07 10:07:43
It's only available as CD-R on amazon.com :(

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-07 00:47:15
Can't wait to see this . 97% on tomatoes ! Got the score on Saturday and listen 5 times already . AMAZING

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-07 00:47:15
Can't wait to see this . 97% on tomatoes ! Got the score on Saturday and listen 5 times already . AMAZING

Anonymous reply Replies: 2 || 2017-02-05 12:29:19
Usually I am not into animation movie music because they are way too cheerful happy adventure style. But this one is amaaaaaaazing. I can hear a lot of stuff from other RCP scores but I don't mind.

This is really well orchestrated and badass. Lorne his best score.

I can only hope they will do a "superman lego movie" and he can do the score too


MusicWi2017-02-05 19:02:14
Totally agree . It great to get themes back again with super heroes !
10/10


Andrew772017-02-06 03:53:29
I saw the film over the weekend . Brilliant . Better the the Lego movie . Music is amazing . He has taken super hero music to another level .

Migeal reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-04 08:46:47
Arrival of Robin is my best

Tim80 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-02-04 07:39:23
Order of amazing tracks :

1) Battle Royals - amazing theme and orchestration
2) The Babs Signal - great theme . Exactly how superhero movies should have a theme .
3) Chaoes in Gotham - totally crazy !
4) A Long Farewell

The rest : just as good but theses are amazing .

Ando4 reply Replies: 4 || 2017-02-03 06:03:57
Just downloaded the album . Already listened to it three times .
It's excellent . Lorns best score yet . Fun and series .


Brent2017-02-03 07:06:47
I absolutely love this score! Perhaps Lorne's best. Though, at the same time, I'm a little annoyed that Junkie's Mad Max descending action pattern keeps showing up at every possible moment.


Ando42017-02-03 18:11:21
I thought that to but then that line is also in Megamind ! So not really junkies!


Hybrid Soldier2017-02-03 19:48:42
Yeah that's funny I asked if there was Mad Max temp but it was rather Megamind ! ;)


The Pale King2017-02-03 20:56:56
That descending action theme is a bit annoying, but I'll forgive it for just how much fun this score is; a real treat.

Basically sounds like putting the score(s) for the Lego Movie, Batman '66, and Batman '89 / TAS in a blender, with a lot of fun, unexpcted surprises along the way.

Not to be that guy, but after the muddled disappointing Batman stuff in BvS, hats off to Lorne for creating something that sounds so quintessentially Batman.

Oh, and the Robin cue / theme might be one of my favorites in a long time :)

AndyM reply Replies: 1 || 2017-01-31 10:59:01
Just saw a screening of the film . Defiantly Lorne's best score yet .its nothing like I've heard in an animation . Can't wait for the album now and great songs


Anonymous2017-01-31 16:34:50
whats defiant about the score?

Kevin reply Replies: 2 || 2017-01-28 00:56:13
6:58 . Amazing . he has the original TV Batman theme !


Krosos792017-01-29 00:09:39
That was very funny. it sounds like the ultimate batman soundtrack to me. Has everythiung.fun and comedy and sadness.


MusizTom2017-01-30 21:37:19
Lorne has posted his writing method on his Facebook and it's great to see how
He writes music on the computer . Can not wait for the album

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 8 || 2017-01-27 20:05:27
Suite added !


Mike2017-01-27 20:43:25
You've gotta be kidding me! The "deshi deshi basara" percussion again? :P Lorne already used it in 13 Hours.


Musiz2017-01-27 21:37:39
This is crazy !!! Brilliant . feels in the world of Superheroes and Batman
But fun . Great start to the year for amazing soundtracks


David2017-01-28 04:51:14
@Mike where did he use it in 13hrs? Track plz


Mike822017-01-28 05:13:46
It's a drum pattern !! So what ! The robin song is so beautiful


Bou2017-01-28 12:53:58
1:45 totally Powell-ish :)


Bou2017-01-28 12:56:18
2:05 sounds like, no kidding, some Don Davis stuff from Matrix :)


Miguel2017-01-28 13:57:29
More John Barry I think than Powell . Great sounding score so far .


Mike2017-01-28 15:57:53
@David, it plays during "Welcome to Benghazi"

PeteMusic reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-27 22:36:00
Sounding great . Really want to see the film now .

Versus reply Replies: 1 || 2017-01-27 20:28:10
Another Work of this overrated Composer


Mike822017-01-27 21:51:27
You must be deaf !!! Can't get over how emotional this score is sounding. Any more clips available ?

Waymann reply Replies: 4 || 2017-01-27 09:41:47
Do we really have to buy the album with all those awful pop songs included?


ZioMusic2017-01-27 14:15:13
It was on Amazon but now gone ????


Petro872017-01-27 16:22:51
There seems to be a vinyl of just the score being released in May


jrej35552017-01-27 17:34:26
Hey, no dissin' on "Man in the Mirror!" ;)


Anonymous2017-01-27 18:17:41
@jrej3555,

I sampled it last night. It's not what you think it is. It's it's own song. And it sucks.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 2 || 2017-01-27 01:41:28
The samples for this sound really cool, and it's great seeing Lorne Balfe tackle it given his history with Batman.


Tomas362017-01-27 03:38:31
This is Balfes best score yet ! So many colors . Bravo


peter2017-01-27 17:23:34
where can I find those samples please?

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-27 17:17:01
Seeing as Lorne worked on all three movies of the TDK trilogy with Zimmer, Howard, et al... Anyone think we'll find any easter eggs here? ;)

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2017-01-26 23:58:57
Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! :)

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