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Probably the only reason Goldsmith isn't in my top 3 is I haven't heard enough of his music. :pWallfisch is a good composer indeed, but BR2049 (and Dunkirk) were absolutely the wrong place for him. He's not a synth guy. He was originally a protege of Dario Marianelli, for heaven's sake - he's got a far more classical/orchestral sensibility. A score like Cure for Wellness is a much better fit for him. I'm not sure why Hans thought it was best to bring him of all people in on BR2049 when the more electronically-inclined Mazzaro/Kawczynski duo would have made more sense for a Blade Runner score (I say this based mostly on Chappie).Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesnít harm saying someone else can be good <br><br>Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that donít think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!! <br><br><br><br>Edmund - given the rationality you've displayed in your comments, I'm disappointed Goldsmith isn't in your top three. ;)<br><br>In all seriousness, I'd put money on Powell fucking nailing the integration of Williams's theme. While Giacchino did a solid job on Jurassic World and Rogue One (I tend to think my assessment of the latter is a bit more positive than most), frankly I just think Powell is a far better composer - a genuine A-level guy, whereas Giacchino is moreso very competent without that spark of pure talent seen in Williams, Goldsmith, Elfman, Zimmer etcI think it's worth noting that Zimmer's popularity at this point is largely under his direct control - meaning that if he were to decide to stop touring, go back to writing full-time, and return to his 'epic' thematic style, I think we'd see a surge in his popularity of the sort we saw from Batman Begins through til Interstellar. However, I just don't think he's interested, which is totally his right.<br><br>I certainly agree that the RCP proteges at this point are, frankly, shit compared to how they used to be. I mean, even a guy like Steve Mazzaro (who I genuinely like and who wrote some of the coolest cues in Chappie, and basically co-wrote BvS - a score I actually like) just utterly pales in comparison to the Powell era.<br><br>Actually, I have to take that back a bit; Wallfisch is a very, very talented guy, honestly so much better than someone like Junkie that I weirdly tend to forget he's under the RCP roof now.
@HunterTech<br><br>"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."<br><br>Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.<br><br>Edmund - much appreciated.<br><br>Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.<br><br>And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.I agree. His Justice League theme is just a deconstruct of his Batman theme. Clever, yeah sure - he's done similar things with the Men In Black sequels and I'm sure there's others I can't think of right now - but I personally dont consider Elfman's involvement in this new DCEU to be very welcome. Zimmer paints a different canvas than Elfman, and I love both their works.It was a missed opportunity.<br>Yeah... I'm not sure about Elfman's wave. The guy decided to bring back his old Batman theme instead of actually writing a new one. He has to re-invent himself. <br>
Seven with ZimmerYeah, Silvestri, Newman, Goldenthal and JNH too. The six most popular "new" composers, along with Horner, of the  80's and 90's.I saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitI saw a few clips from the movie on youtube. The score sounded really good. Very unlike Djawadi and very beautiful fantasy music! Can't waitHonestly, I do feel bad for Elfman, because for Chrissakes hes been doing 50 Shades of Grey these days, and the last memorable scores I have of him are from 2012. But I don't think Zimmer or even Elfman for that matter are done as yet. I predict by the end of this decade Zimmer will have a new wave in popularity wash in. I'm just waiting for Elfman's wave right now...not quite seeing it yet.
Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.Zimmer got X-Men: Dark Phoenix this year. And I have a hard time believing he is only scoring that film this year. Zimmer always does more than 1 film a year.No need for petty cursing .<br><br>We can discuss the soundtrack instead ! <br><br>Forgotten is cool track.Itís definitely one of Bayís best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Canít cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."<br><br>Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.<br><br>But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.
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The Boss Baby
Label: Back Lot Music
Length: 66'11 (Score: 56'30)
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  1. Survival Of The Fittest (2:24)
  2. Baby Brother (3:58)
  3. Welcome To Baby Corp (3:12)
  4. You Can't Get Away From Johnny Law (2:11)
  5. We Can Buy A Bouncy House (3:18)
  6. Super Colossal Big Fat Boss Baby (1:11)
  7. Barfmitzvah (2:11)
  8. Toodaloo Toilet-Head! (4:02)
  9. I Wish You Were Never Born (2:53)
  10. Puppy Co. (3:27)
  11. You Want To Hug Me, Don't You? (3:20)
  12. Arrrggh (2:01)
  13. Francis Francis (4:19)
  14. You're Fired (4:28)
  15. Upsies! I Need Upsies! (1:44)
  16. Love (5:17)
  17. Go Get Yourself A Horse (2:19)
  18. What The World Needs Now Is Love - Missi Hale (4:15)
  19. Cheek To Cheek (From the Motion Picture "Top Hat") - Fred Astaire (5:01)
  20. (Every Time I Turn Around) Back In Love Again - L.T.D. (4:40)
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dariya den reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-27 13:56:01
love

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-20 01:49:04
The Sierra Leone track Andrew K posted (link below)...I almost wonder if that's how 2010s Zimmer would redo The Lion King. More bass, more minimalist, more Interstellar...but still with an African flare.

Felix reply Replies: 6 || 2017-11-18 18:35:40
Andrew loaded some cues to the movie "The Last Face" up on his soundcloud page, go & check it :)

soundcloud.com/andrewkawczynski/sets/the-last-face


...2017-11-19 02:46:45
Nice stuff! I still can't believe this score hasn't gotten a release.


Hal2017-11-19 13:03:31
Hybrid, did you ever ask Hans why this score wasn't released?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:25:47
I don't have to ask, that movie was a failure that barely got distributed... No one had any interest in releasing this score...


Hal2017-11-19 13:43:44
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. The Tracks released were kind of interesting, a kind of mix of sounds


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-19 13:49:07
Yeah, I happen to have seen the film and the score is not really "coherent", it's more like many different cues put together...


Mike (OTM)2017-11-19 23:04:16
Huh. Well, the music Andrew posted is nice.

MHarru reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-04 01:36:42
Have to agree that Megamind was MUCH better.the Conrad cue though is amazing.rest is not at all Zimmer.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-03 17:50:36
Yes, itís definitely no Megamind, but I will say that after revisiting it; definitely not as disappointing to me as when I first heard. The issues I have are still the same (frenetic action, ADD-type scoring, Popeís cue being the strongest, etc.) but at the same time itís a very charming score when it slows the pace and lets the emotional side come forward. I will even give credit to the main theme(s), they actually get more development than Megamindís main tune. Itís a shame this score kinda got written off this year, itís enjoyable enough.

And as for the ďLoveĒ cue, that really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music Iíve heard in recent memory. Itís a great throwback to classical music with that John Williams string sound. I really wish Zimmer had written it, but understandably thatís not his style.


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 18:29:00
Hans wanted Conrad to just be Conrad. He spent like 2 months on that only cue !


mpolonest123 2017-11-03 21:27:14
Really?!? Well it shows! Iím confused though, did Hans bring Conrad on board or was that the productionís decision?


Hybrid Soldier2017-11-03 23:04:04
Hans !

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:26:29
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Micah2017-05-25 19:35:43
Man, I loved this movie.

isildur reply Replies: 9 || 2017-04-07 20:22:45
Yo Hybrid, credits for this? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? Hans suites and Steve everything else? What about Conrad Pope?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 20:41:18
I'd bet my left nut that "Love" is Pope.


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-08 04:05:52
Pope did Love indeed.


Mike782017-04-08 11:03:17
Love is amazing . He rest is not as good as megamind . Don't think zimmer gave 100% to this


c2017-04-08 13:57:25
Conrad Pope explains the cue on his facebook. They needed something more dynamic and classical-sounding.

The editor James Ryan also commented:

"Every screening for well over 2 years the last thing we would do was work on that scene and struggle to re-edit the temp. I've never worked on a scene in any movie that had so much riding on the music. The sigh of relief and joy when you delivered your masterpiece was something I will never forget. And watching you conduct it gave me the chills (and a few tears). Bravo!"

By far the strongest piece on the album. The rest is pretty forgettable.


Andrew272017-04-08 14:43:35
That's amazing to hear from the editor . Wish the rest of the score was as good as Popes piece.

Think Lego Batman is still best animation score this year . Was really looking forward to Boss Baby but seems generic .


Ds2017-04-08 15:08:27
You guys are right that "Love" is a great cue. But the rest of the score is just as good, with plenty of ideas and a very cool and memorable theme.

The issue is that this kind of scores requires some patience from the listeners, because it's too crazy, too packed, with so many twists and style variations it's difficult to fully grasp the whole thing after just a few listens.

It's just like any John Powell score for animation: absolutely great music that takes some time to fully digest. So please, give it a few more spins and some time to grow on you before you judge it!


Mike (OTM)2017-04-08 20:00:25
"Love" is an awesome cue and all. I really love it. But I don't understand: could no one at RCP have delivered something like this? Pope was obviously a good pick, but are Zimmer and co. truly incapable of arranging this type of thing?


mpolonest1232017-04-08 20:21:06
@Mike(OTM) Not necessarily, I feel like Richard Harvey could easily have delivered something in this vein. That being said, I'm sure the production team probably had their heart set on whatever temps they used for that scene (more likely than not something that Pope either composed or orchestrated) and decided to go directly to the man himself.

It is a bit strange that they would only bring him in to do one scene, as opposed to working alongside Hans and Steve throughout. But it's not unheard of, I guess.


Miguel2017-04-08 22:44:06
The only person at RCP that could do what Pope did was , is Balfe . Why didn't he get involved especially after the Megamind connection???

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-02 00:40:11
Hybrid, since you generally have an idea about this stuff, do you have a rough estimate of how composing duties/credits were divided here? Co-score all throughout? Mostly Steve? Mostly Hans? ;)

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 17:53:54
This Score Is Awsome, Hans Zimmer & Steve Mazzaro Work For The First Time And Additional Music By Cornad Pope. Is The Same Style Animated Movie Score Like Megamind With Lorne Balfe.
Can Wait To See The Boss Baby

Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 22:00:04
Hans Zimmer and Conrad Pope in a film together would be awesome!!


Dino2017-03-31 09:56:35
Also add Balfe to that line up and that would be amazing

Jonathan Rochat reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-24 14:04:27
Not bad! The "Love" cue has great orchestral moments. At least *** score after the first listen.


credit2017-03-26 10:46:03
So "Love" was obviously done by Conrad Pope. Never heard anyone from RCP write anything remotely close to that style.

But what about the rest of the score? I can hear a lot of Hans in the theme and the action material (a lot of his action riffs and stylings from megamind) but not sure which bits Mazzaro did.


iMe2017-03-26 14:15:20
@credit

Agreed with your comment on Conrad Pope's involvement.

Goes to show what Hans Zimmer's tunes can become if orchestrated and arranged by someone of Pope's caliber. I hope to see the duo collaborate more often.


Miguel2017-03-27 05:16:04
Conrad should have been the co composer with Hans I think !. I bet he contributed more than just that amazing cue .


Mike (OTM)2017-03-27 15:52:51
So I agree it's likely that Conrad Pope was involved with the "Love" cue, but watch what's gonna happen...

We're gonna find out that cue is 100% Zimmer, and we're all gonna have our minds blown. Cause honestly, that type of thing happens a lot. :P


Jonathan Rochat2017-03-27 16:24:51
Yes ok I then had a look at Conrad Pope. That guys has orchestrated "Jurassic Park" (and many many others) so yes it seems that the "love" cue could have been completely in his hand. And note this is the first Time Conrad Pope is credited as Additional composer here, maybe this is just because of that cue... Now we need to wait for Hybrid , maybe one day we will know the answer.

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:35:38
Who is Conrad Pope ? Is he RCP ?


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-27 09:51:25
He's done a few scores (Pavilion of Women is outstanding), but he's better known as a veteran orchestrator for many years for composers like John Williams, Alan Silvestri and Alexandre Desplat. In other words, he knows what he's doing. Quite unexpected for him to show up on an RCP score!

Antois reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 09:24:02
I don't think lego Batman soundtrack is overrated at all . Great emotion and themes . I found you is a great robin theme also .

Anto reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-27 05:24:39
No the best sad to say. Sounds like Hans didn't do much in it. Lego Batman is still winning for me this year for best score so far for sure


Dragonseeker2017-03-27 07:19:01
Lego Batman is the most overrated score this year to me. The Boss Baby is not amazing either imo, but it has a very clear thematic structure.

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:28:05
Not great . This is not Hans music unfortunately

Waymann reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-24 10:01:07
Great score, love the action cues and the constant use of main theme in different variations throughout the whole score. Honestly I prefer this one over the Lego Batman soundtrack...


Dudu2017-03-24 16:53:10
Same here!!
Loved that score and prefer it to lego batman. The main theme is cool, and there's an "out-of-nowhere" throwback to the 90s in the cue "barfmitzvah", what can I ask more??


FilmMuso2017-03-27 05:21:10
No way is it better than Lego Batman . This is Megamind basically . Lego Batman has interesting colors and has soul. Wouldn't mind more Conrad Pope collaborations though !

... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-25 17:40:03
Never has there been so little interest in a Zimmer release. What'd you guys think?

I personally found it fun, but a tad loud :)


Mephariel2017-03-25 23:45:48
Fun score. But anything with Steve Mazzaro tends to be electronically overhanded and loud. Nice theme and nice soundscape building though.

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-24 12:59:24
Conrad Pope was here? That's surprising!

Joshua reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-21 22:05:24
If you watch the live stream video on the official Dunkirk website they have some score which I would put money on is from Zimmer.

A fan reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-19 05:48:36
Can you put on some music from the album...I haven't heard of the music for a painful while


Ds2017-03-19 09:20:15
Samples are on iTunes!


Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simps2017-03-19 17:51:42
Sounds like a cross between Megamind and The Simpsons Movie.


Thanks Ds2017-03-20 02:26:40
It sounds like a fun score.


Mephariel2017-03-20 07:19:22
I like what I am hearing so far, especially the new theme. It is really nice to know that Zimmer likes to have fun once in a while.

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 12:45:07
Hans Zimmer And Steve Mazzaro Workings Together As Composer For The First Time In This Movie. Wow!, I Can Wait To Hear The Score And See The Movie

I Still Remember That Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe Working Together At Megamind With The Director By Tom McGrath ,The Bible & Son Of God.
I Got To Say Hans Zimmer Is The Best Composer I Ever Known And Hear His Music


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-19 22:13:33
Yeah, Zimmer and Mazzaro are working together far from the first time here, Mr. Useless Shitpost Man.

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-19 18:48:35
Sounds just like Megamind !


Tim2017-03-19 19:19:56
Do wish Hans would stop doing theses co writes . They don't sound his usual standard . Not very original this score

SamMusix reply Replies: 2 || 2017-03-18 01:52:26
Lame - why didn't Hans and Lorne work on this


mpolonest123 2017-03-18 03:09:25
Why is it lame? Have you heard it yet?

Give it a chance, Steve Mazzaro has shown some promise in the past and has never really had a chance to show his talents in a more solo effort. Between this and Pirates, it'll be cool to hear his more orchestral side.

Hell, I still remember when Lorne Balfe was first breaking away from his co-composer status and people were hating on him...


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-18 10:39:50
Hey Lorne is not a puppy waiting lol... He has a career, he is not spinning around what Hans does anymore !

Mike (Longtime Visitor Mike/Old Timer Mike) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-17 22:40:53
52 minutes of score? My, Hans' releases have improved since the days of Madagascar! And Mazzaro is a co-composer? This will be interesting!

(Sorry about the long name, btw. There being other "Mikes" here necessitated a way to identify myself. I was the only one for a long time. xD)

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-04 00:02:15
New Hans OST coming soon !


Dimitris Krommidas2017-03-04 00:26:09
Great!


Mephariel2017-03-04 10:59:19
When did Zimmer work on this score? Right after Hidden Figures?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-04 12:02:52
Yeah second half of last year. Hidden Figures was being recorded in August.


Michael 2017-03-04 12:33:09
I take it Lorne also worked on it ? Hope so

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