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Tina had a lot of work to do here!Each time I listen to "The Oil," I'm convinced it can't get any louder and larger, but it does. If you don't look at the track time, you're just constantly thinking it's about to end, and yet it somehow continues to up the ante until you almost can't handle anymore!I was on three concerts so far and just at the one at Frankfurt some band members came down from the stage after the concert. I didn'f got a autograph but I did photos with nile marr and nick glennie smith. But if you would ask some of the band members I am sure they will say "ok perhaps I can arrange it" would try it this way :)I really like it. It's a clever score that sounds like it had an awful lot of thought put into it.A fanmade.<br><br>Hybrid probably took the track from here because the guy behind the channel was stating that it was original without being. Leaving the link here would only give him more audience.
So I'm curious about something...that fake End Titles track that was posted here twice and removed...if it wasn't Dunkirk, what WAS it? It was actually a decent piece and sounded like Hans.I agree.  This to me was Nolan's Revenant. Good looking cinematography, but almost no story and zero emotional connection to anything happening.  I disagree with Adam.  It doesn't drudge up negative feelings either because, unless you have an explicit connection to the Battle of Dunkirk, it doesn't try to give anything meaning.  The film was everything I feared when I saw the trailer, boring and limited in depth.  As I was leaving I heard someone describe as a documentary, but I wouldn't even call it that.  It is like an art film, definitely not for everyone.  I'd probably call it a historical recreation on film.<br><br>As for the "music".  It definitely fit the "movie" in that it hardly was the fundamental thing it is described as.  Mostly droning noise, air, or ticking.  Not for everyone and not really listenable either.<br><br>Overall this felt like a pop-avant garde project.  Maybe Dunkirk is something extremely culturally relevant in England? Like still present in the vernacular? I don't know but this movie fails to take add anything to the human experience. It does not transcend its basic scenario and title. Dunkirk. That is it.Nope, it has the inicial feeling of 528491 of Inception.Shivering Soldier is DEFINITELY similar to Bruce's theme in BVSThe Tracklist Of This movie has Been Released At film Music reporter And Film Music Site. There Us much Of The Score By Atli Örvarsson And Various Artists:<br><br>1.Nobody Gets Out Alive<br>(Samuel L.jackson)<br>2.Hello(Lionel Ritchie)<br>3.Hitman's Bodyguard(Atli Örvarsson)<br>4.Ships On The Ocean(Kunior Well's Chicago Blues Band)<br>5.Smells Like Ass Back Here<br>(Atli Örvarsson)<br>6.Jag Didn't Smells Like Ass <br>(Atli Örvarsson)<br>7.I Want To Know What Love Is<br>(Foreigner)<br>8.Amsterdam Chase(Dmitri Golovko)<br>9.Black Betty(Spiderbait)<br>10.Little Quennie(Chuck Berry)<br>11.One Of The Good Guys?<br>(Atli Örvarsson)<br>12.Kincaid's Gospel<br>(Atli Örvarsson)<br>13.Dukovish(Atli Örvarsson)<br>14.Broken Wing(Atli Örvarsson)<br>15.Dancing In The Moonlight<br>(King Harvest)<br><br>Atli Örvarsson:Composer<br>Additional Music By Claudio Olachea & Dmitri Golovko<br>Music Supervisor By Selena Arizanonic
Has anyone had any luck getting an autograph after one of his concerts? Going to one soon.*four. Yes, I can do math. :PI like that Lorne is directly credited on Regimental Brothers and End Titles. Ditto Wallfisch with Home, Variation 15, and End Titles. That's three credits from the start!I agree, but this one is much better.It probably felt less emotionally engaging because we've been fed with emotions like friendships, love, joy or sorrow in most of the films. Dunkirk was emotionally engaging with emotions like fear of death, longing to go home. Hope this gives you another perspective
Divisive opinion:<br>I honestly wasn't crazy about the film. It wasn't bad, and the score was very appropriate, but I felt they could have done something different to not just be visually engaging, but emotionally engaging. Maybe I'm crazy, I'm seeing it again today, but that's my initial reaction.@Hari "I am afraid?"<br><br>There is no need to fear. Lol.<br>They have been doing this since ... always<br>Filmtracks since 2003.<br>The problem is that HZ has no formal musical training and this will always put him on a step down when compared to those who have or who in one way or another try to follow in a more orchestral way."At least for people who claim to be more cultured"<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>@Hari No! He never assumed that. The other day, I think in BvS or Boss Baby review, he commented that people accuse him of always bashing HZ works in exchange for views. But he denies, saying he does this to make it clear that not all people are satisfied with the current situation of the scores produced these days. And that HZ has yes, his share of guilt about it.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>I do not like hatred in what he writes. First because it influences other reviewers to do the same and second because it is not 100% fair.<br><br>For PoTC 5, for example, he gave 3 stars. While the other scores of the franchise were always migrating between 1 and 2 stars.<br>If everyone had 3 stars, with the exception of the 4 effort, I'd be okay with that.And his justification for this is that Geoff is ridding the music of the damage franchise brought by Hans. WTF?<br><br>But at the end of the day I'm okay with that too.<br>----------------------------------------------<br>I make it clear that I do not have so much trouble with the way he review the scores. No problem. The problem is the use of hate words whenever it comes with a score review by Hans.<br><br>He called Captain Philips of a piece of shit. Even if I agree with him that it is bad, is sad that you read this. But okay.<br>Wonder Woman wasn't too bad :Dits just Tick Took effect, Great for the Movie but so Disappointed As an Album.<br>You misunderstood me, everything I've heard about the score excited me and I still am very excited to see the movie and to hear the score. I was one of the people who defended Hans' approach early on when "Supermarine" was released. I like what i've heard from the score and I don't want a melody or a main theme. (even though it seems like Supermarine can count as a main theme from what I've heard about the score)<br><br>My issue is with the 11 track 59 minute album. Let's take "The Mole" for example, I've been told that at the 2:00 mark there was a section that's in the movie but was cut out of the track so "The Mole" would've been much longer than 5 minutes. That section is one of my favorite things about the score (it was featured in the prologue). The first clip with Mark Rylance featured music that is similar to the end of "The Mole" but it's not the same cue and it doesn't appear elsewhere on the album. <br>I'm a big, big fan of Hans and Nolan but the fact that they keep screwing up their soundtrack official releases is bothersome to me.
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Geoff ZanelliPhill BoucherPaul MounseySteve Mazzaro
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Men Tell No Tales
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 71'42
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  1. Dead Men Tell No Tales (1:51)
  2. Salazar (4:27)
  3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel (3:59)
  4. You Speak Of The Trident (1:58)
  5. The Devil's Triangle (2:45)
  6. Shansa (3:12)
  7. Kill The Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait (4:50)
  8. The Dying Gull (1:01)
  9. El Matador Del Mar (8:05)
  10. Kill The Sparrow (6:16)
  11. She Needs The Sea (2:32)
  12. The Brightest Star In The North (6:00)
  13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill (6:41)
  14. The Power Of The Sea (4:07)
  15. Treasure (5:43)
  16. My Name Is Barbossa (5:34)
  17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon (2:41)
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Waymann reply Replies: 4 || 2017-05-25 20:25:21
Lots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-25 20:28:52
Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lol


Ds2017-05-25 20:31:17
If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 20:42:59
Yeah... I know what you mean...

First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.

So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.


Ds2017-05-25 21:10:08
"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".
I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.
But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-D

Oscarilbo reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-25 20:01:25
I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.

But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking.

I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.

You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.

Soroush reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-25 19:14:59
I like the score but the thing is, Hans increased our expectations with those amazing themes and creative melodies (which all of us love them). But now, obviously, we will not hear what we expected from a "Pirates of the Caribbean" soundtrack. I really admire Geoff Zanelli and I know he is trying as much as he can to do this score.
But eventually, I myself wanted an orchestra playing some "Hans Zimmer style" pirate melodies.
That's all.


Mike (OTM)2017-05-25 19:22:16
Like someone said below, regardless of how much Zanelli or others worked on the previous films, you could always tell you were listening to a Zimmer score on the whole. And for good or ill, Zimmer made some really memorable themes in these movies. Sure, they were derivative at times (Drop Zone? Gladiator? The Rock?), but throughout the films he worked on, he always brought interesting stuff to the table. His absence is noticed here, IMHO. He was always - pardon the pun - steering the ship when other people wrote material on the other films, so even on cues that were mostly someone else, his imprint was there directly.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-25 13:30:50
Wow...the Gladiator temp at 5:05. :/


mpolonest1232017-05-25 16:05:56
I kept wondering where I had heard that before and now that you mention it.... wow that's blatant : /


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 17:35:08
haha to be fair, POTC have always had "that" moment from Gladiator (the battle) in the main theme. So, in a weird sense is kind of congruent hahaha.

It really is the RC sound at its purest. Happens with many of the RC productions, they "collide".


Bioscope2017-05-25 17:43:10
And what about that Patricide/Zucchabar mashup in AWE?


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 17:49:02
Yeah... in the end, Gladiator and POTC share much of the same soundscape. Same for 2004's King Arthur.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-25 18:31:27
The worst is still the cue "Elizabeth Declares War" from POTC 3 which is note for note "Afraid Of The Dark" from Gladiator lol...

meh reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-25 16:20:48
The movie was horrendous and the score was annoying. really disappointed. :/

They spend three years on THAT script! It's terrible!!!


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 16:36:55
...and you loved the past trilogy and OST ??


meh2017-05-25 17:53:13
no OST was bad as well. None of movies are perfect but this one they said would be better.

the script sucks. jokes for babies. jerry bruckheimer just has no ideas.

Hah reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-25 15:53:49
Told you Zimmer was involved. Maybe not there to score, but helped in a way. Don't question me hybrid hah!

Eric reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-25 13:47:01
The Blackbeard theme is not Salazar theme it is from what I hear used for his Crew I have heard a little snippet of Salazar theme and it sounds completely different.


meta2017-05-25 14:14:42
Salazar theme sounds like a hybrid of Blackbeard plus Beckett.


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 15:36:42
what do mean? the beginning segment of the Blackbeard theme is what Salazar's theme sound like, not the theme itself.

Or are you saying that minute of preview on the "EL MATADOR DEL MAR" does not include Salazar's theme yet?

M4dRocket reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-25 15:09:06
Good score. Of course not the level of the trilogy, but "On stranger tides"not the inferior.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 12 || 2017-05-24 21:34:37
OK here is a suite I made of it !


GPrice2017-05-24 21:39:34
My man. Thank you


Crisp Rat2017-05-24 21:56:35
Is that Blackbeard's theme at 2:15? Is that a flashback or is it just a lazy reuse of themes?


Micah2017-05-24 21:59:37
Thanks, Hybrid. Once again, you're the man!

Anyone know what the theme at the beginning is? I assumed it was Carina's theme, but it could be the new adventure theme instead?


Micah2017-05-24 22:10:09
Then again, I assume 9:40 is the new adventure theme?

Also, 9:40 is the best part of the suite. Can't get enough of it.


mpolonest123 2017-05-24 22:36:31
Eh, I'm not really like Blackbeard's - I mean Salazar's theme. It sounds like a temped mix of the Blackbeard theme and Ramin's Kaiju theme from Pacific Rim.

The rest sounds pretty good, especially the references to "Marry Me"

Hybrid, what are your impressions of the full thing?


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-24 22:56:21
Well I saw the film today as well and I can't express how disappointed I was by it... Such a mess, with a bunch of horrible things and some good ones halas buried in the rest...

As for the score, it flows better on CD, but Geoff did really good, much better than the 4th.


Eric2017-05-24 23:04:04
Does ol Hector Barbossa get his own theme or do they use Becketts again?


mpolonest1232017-05-24 23:06:17
That's not surprising to hear, this series really has become one big cash grab (moreso than it already was)

I'm really excited to hear the full score on album when it drops, Geoff is enormously talented. Judging by the suite alone there really aren't any new moments that pop out to me or scream
memorable. Even On Stranger Tides managed to fit in some pretty solid new ideas, and a decent album presentation outside of the remixes.

Also, is it just me or is the recording a bit flat?


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 00:24:45
I imagine some kind of connection between Salazar and Blackbeard. Not that is in the movie, may be conceptual, but I don't think is "accidental" or laziness. It sounds pretty intentional


-2017-05-25 01:06:40
Hybrid - what did you like/not like about it?


Manulder2017-05-25 10:57:40
Thanks Hybrid

Merci Hybrid &#128512;


Medigo2017-05-25 11:11:15
Yes that Salazar theme does basically take a segment from the Blackbeard theme, lets not be kidding ourselves. But Ill reserve judgment until I hear the full rendition.

Max Potcats reply Replies: 6 || 2017-05-24 23:13:51
salazar's theme guys : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7vHk9sq3s&ab_channel=disne ymusic


bbs272017-05-25 00:05:02
just a recall of the Davy Jones first appearance music :
https://youtu.be/Lhb4FccPrOI?t=2m58s


huh?2017-05-25 00:11:35
this sounds nothing at all like davey jones. or blackbeard as other people said. i think many people decided not to like this score before it came out. that's all i think when i see these comments. is anyone actually listening?


iii2017-05-25 00:27:23
Quite the opposite most people (who care) were/are looking forward to seeing what Geoff Zanelli would do after the uninspiring On Stranger Tides.

Having said that I'm not feeling this one. I'm glad it was composed by someone who wanted to do it but I think Hans' creativity is missed, honestly. For all the talk about ghost-writers (which I've argued about on here a few times), it's telling when you hear the original work of people who've arranged his compositions and compare.

I will say one thing in defence of it. Last time out (with OST) we got our first exposure to the score back when there was a possibility the film would still be good. Sadly it's been confirmed as shit and I wonder if that biases my view when listening to it and makes me less receptive.


Oscarilbo2017-05-25 02:17:51
It sounds very much like the intro motif from Blackbeard theme, not the theme itself, although not the same exact notes neither.

I think is merely intentional to these have the same "DNA", is not accident. Remember Zanelli was heavily involved in Stranger Tides, much more than the trilogy.


Brent2017-05-25 02:41:40
I'm actually pretty excited by what I'm hearing. Carina's new theme is nice and I love the orchestral energy Geoff brings to this one. The one gripe I have with this so far is that Salazar's theme, at least the beginning, is almost Blackbeard's theme note for note. It even has some of the same instrumentation. Other than that, I tip my hat to Geoff.


Olivia2017-05-25 04:03:16
It is the Black Beard theme with a new arrange. Maybe exist some reason behind this

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-25 00:27:23
The suite brought tears to my eyes. The music I hope is Carina's theme is too beautiful for words.

Eric reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-24 22:51:39
The Suite sounds great and the music from the instagram video the director Joachim Ronning posted is at around the 0:25 second mark I think but Geoff Zanelli did great with this.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-24 21:28:53
www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=17548


Geoff Zanelli about the new Pirates movie, the soundtrack and the character themes in the movie.

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-24 17:14:27
Just when we thought there would be no remixes on this soundtrack. The digital release will included a bonus track with this piece of shit track: https://youtu.be/wJDKqkbXIT0 by Dimitri Vegas en Like Mike (those guys who play music with there macbooks and usb sticks.)

Nobody asked for this track. This is going to the trash once the soundtrack is downloaded on my ipad.

Waymann reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-24 00:00:05
Just saw the film. Was great by the way, much much beter than On Stranger Tides. Now on the score: I'm not blow away by it (Not all the new theme's are great) BUT... First the new theme for Carina and the stars is by far the best new thing in the pirates soundtrack universe. It's beautiful, something new and adventurous. The new adventure theme is actually a new variation on He's a Pirate or Jack's theme (can't really tell, need to here it again.) which has been used a lot in previous films during the action sequences. First time i heard it, it thought it was a little bit simple and unoriginal but hearing it for a multiple times in the film I really started to like it! It's good they made something new to use during the action sequences instead of the overused he's a pirate or jack's theme, It gives the movie it's own voice.

Salazar's theme was for me the most dissapointing, it sounded too much like Davy Jones and his crew, also I don't even remember it. Missed opportunity over here. But what really stood out for me are the old themes. Dear lord I got goosebumps at the end when One Day (Will & Elizabeth's theme from Pirates 3) is used, it's emotional and epic. Also the beginning of the movie has a some tragic variations of Will and Elizaberh theme from Pirates 3. Hopefully this will be on the soundtrack! Also somethimes the Marry Me suite is used shortly for Henry during action moments.

It's amazing to see that these themes, made 10 years ago, still have there effect as they are used in a new movie (it also helpes ofcourse that storylines from At World's End finally pay off in this film) and they are used in a proper way, they always fit the scene in this movie (not like in On Stranger Tides we're theme's are used in scenes that didn't have a connection to it at all). I really hope the score album will make a good represention of this films complete soundtrack, waiting another multiple years for a complete score? (the opening track in this film for exemple, or that short little string piece when Carina appolizes to Henry) I don't think I can do that. Looking forward to friday to hear what they will give us.


Ds2017-05-24 00:41:44
Well for me sadly it is just a reminder of how great the original trilogy was. The best things in this movie are the returning characters, and the returning love theme from At World's End. Aside from that, it's just like the 4th movie: another forgettable round in the same old attraction. Except this time there are some naval battles, so at least it looks like a pirates movie, which makes it just a little better than the 4th one. But still far, far below the first 3 movies.


genius2017-05-24 01:39:13
Salazar is just another version of Davy Jones and his crew but with no motivation.

Jerry Bruckheimer -

Before OST:
"Blackbeard is probably the evilest character we've ever had"
"It harkens back more the first one."
"The beginning of a whole new adventure... a whole new fresh look to the pirates movies"
"We've got these two beautiful new characters"

Before DMTNT
"I think Salazar is the head of the family tree of the previous villains. He is the most frightening we’ve ever had because he’s merciless."
"What's fresh about this is the fact we're introducing these new characters"
"It's so fresh, so different, so scary"



Eric2017-05-24 02:21:16
Does Barbossa have a theme in Dead Men Tell No Tales?


Max Potcats2017-05-24 02:26:09
no Eric sorry but there is nothing noticeable in the score for Barbossa. Nothing new i mean :/


Cayman2017-05-24 10:05:08
I have to admit, that new adventure theme it's stuck in my head all day. Don't know how suddenly popped up into my head.

Max Potcats reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-24 02:19:09
Ok guys, I just saw the movie too, in "avant-premi&#232;re" in France. I must begin by saying i'm a huge fan of PotC since 10 years now, and especially thanks to the music, such original for a "hollywood movie". I remember myself earing the Singapore theme in the theatre, and thinking "ooh my god, I've never heard something like that before ! It's sooo coool !". And, I have never heard anything like this since in others blockbusters. The scores was very uniques.
Since 10 years now i'm a fan of Zimmer too and i know every single note of every Pirate film, and i'm not kidding.
So the movie was ok, great beginning, disappointing ending but LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SCORE !!!

First of all, Zanelli is not Zimmer. It's simple : after watching any pirate movie (even OnStTi) we had a new theme in mind (The Main Theme, the Kraken Theme, Davy Jones, Hoist the Colors, One Day, Up Is Down, Mermaids etc.). Here, we don't. The music "feels pirate" but that's all ; no remarquable new great theme... sorry guys. Well, the only really remarquable is the Salazar's theme, between The Kraken, BlackBeard and Davy Jones, but we just remember the rock guitar, not the melody ;-(

It's hard to admit, especially from a fan who expected a lot from Zanelli, but the Soundtrack is just another hollywood soundtrack, barely remarkable, without originality. The greats themes are these from the others movies, the Zimmer's ones. And very often that's almost exactly the same : "Day One" in the beginning ; "Barbossa Is Hungry" or the Beckett's Death music in "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" is steel for the climax of potc5...

So, i'm nor waiting the soundtrack anymore, maybe IF there is some suites in it, but I don't think so... Too Bad. I miss Zimmer and Verbinski ;-(


Oscarilbo2017-05-24 02:48:47
Well... Zanelli composed Tia Dalma and the percussive Island music from the past trilogy at the least... also the spaniards theme from OST which was my favorite new theme.

in a new interview Zanelli explains that he, both directors and Zimmer sat down to decide on the new music, so Zimmer is still present... search the interview in filmmusicmg.com


Randy Watson2017-05-24 09:56:16
There are a lot of ways to describe the Pirates scores, but "original" or "never heard something like that before", certainly not.

Micah reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-24 02:17:33
Somebody on Reddit posted that the soundtrack is already on sale at Disneyland.

kingfannypack reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-24 01:58:00
Where can we find out about deluxe soundtrack releases, for instance if Dunkirk was also released in a "special edition" or whichever, where could I learn or hear about it?

Scott reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-23 22:03:28
Anyone know when the soundtrack will be released? I'd assume the day of the film's release, May 26, but usually the series' soundtracks have been released earlier. I haven't seen anything for the soundtrack on iTunes, which is a bit concerning.


Micah2017-05-23 23:39:24
Amazon has it listed for this Friday, May 26th.

genius reply Replies: 16 || 2017-05-22 18:50:21
Looks like the film is shaping up to be a disappointment and to be honest the music we've heard so far doesn't sound great either. The new themes are simplistic and boring.

I hope I'm wrong but it's not looking great.


Max Potcats2017-05-22 19:31:44
mdr don't you want to... i don't know... see the movie and listend to the score before juge it ? i do.


The Pale King2017-05-22 19:34:23
I'd say the reception has been decidedly mixed so far; however, many reviewers I've trusted, some of whom aren't even terribly smitten with the series itself, have cited the return to the classic Pirates theme(s) / sound as a definite positive.

We'll have to see, I suppose ...


Olivia2017-05-22 21:39:58
Guy wait for release


...2017-05-22 21:48:06
I am looking forward to this score, although I did hear a couple of reviewers say the score was loud and boring (and composed by Zimmer ;))


Oscarilbo2017-05-22 22:24:25
Haven't heard anything of the score yet, but read a couple of twitter comments (specially from GoSoundtrack) and said Zanelli neiled perfectly, combining old themes with new themes.


Alyssa2017-05-23 00:12:01
Yup. Whatever's being said about the movie itself, the majority of the reviews I'm seeing seem to be agreement that the music score is a high point this time around.


rt2017-05-23 02:54:42
None of the reviews I've read mention the music.

34% on Rotten Tomatoes. Depp is Box Office poison as well.

No wonder Hans abandoned the ship.


Micah2017-05-23 04:36:33
To be fair, Pirates hasn't ever been a critical darling.


Waymann2017-05-23 10:59:02
The main thing i'm reading is that it's better than the fourth one and that's all I need to know. Of course it will never be like the original trilogy. Pirates 2 en 3 are my favorites and those have indeed mixed reviews. Tonight i'm finally going to see it.


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 15:46:52
The problem is... everyone praises the 1st one as a "perfect" swashbuclking adventure, and I don't really know why! I like the first one, but didn't love this franchise until the 2nd came out... that's when I fell in love with Pirates of the Caribbean.

Not only the cinematography, but the pace and the characters and the epicness and the music, all got better the second and third time around, for me. And yes, the screenplay too, again, for me. Love all the complexity.

The 4th one? I like it as much as the 1st one. So this reports of the new one be better than 2 and 3 (and 4 mainly) "but not as much as the 1st one" means that maybe I will love it.

As Micah says... pirates hasn't been a critical hit, but Jack Sparrow is now a pop culture icon nonetheless and as long as they keep delivering a wet fun ride, I'll keep giving them my money.


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-23 15:51:03
"as long as they keep delivering a wet fun ride, I'll keep giving them my money."

Sounds like a Yelp review of a brothel.


depp2017-05-23 16:29:18
Depp's performance in the clips they released is awful. He looks fat and he acts like a clown.


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 17:37:42
It amaze me how volatile we as an audience are.
First we love an actor for being good, new, and fresh. Then by that, that actor keeps doing what we love him for... then we get bored and then we hate him and doom him for being what he "has become"...

suddenly he is a "bad" actor, just for keeping doing what made him a good actor in the first place.

Yes, we are also part of why hollywood is what it is now. We all are part of the same game of shallowness.


genius2017-05-23 22:31:24
"Geoff Zanelli’s score is one of the most annoying of recent memory, but maybe it’s not the composer’s fault. For slow, dull action scenes he scores loud, propulsive music to make the audience think it’s seeing something that isn’t there. We get the horns of profundity and the strings of sincerity, not to mention the soaring choruses that tell us that grand things are really happening now, oh boy — and that these people are really feeling something — and aren’t we privileged to be swept away on this epic of joy and adventure? . . . And none of it is on the screen."

...

" In the midst of all the galloping, carousing and general crazy hysteria of the movie, the score by Geoff Zanelli acts as a metaphor for the movie itself, working so hard to inspire feeling, but sounding like clanging desperation instead."

Score getting hammered as well. =




GPrice2017-05-23 22:36:54
Genius, to be fair, the score for At World's End got some, not a lot, but some nasty reviews as well, and for similar "reasons" as well: too loud, too bombastic, saying more than what's happening on the screen, etc. I think we just need to listen to the score and watch the movie to see for ourselves... because if anyone is like me, I love all the scores and movies except for On Stanger Tides... regardless of the poor reviews. I've been wrong before though lol


Oscarilbo2017-05-23 22:59:25
well... yeah. that's the purpose of film music... complement the images, not just being there... I had read that review, but only that critic I've seen trash the music as well...

But don't go to far.. that's exactly the type of criticism is being thrown at Spielberg/Williams lately.. and if you don't believe me, just search for WarHorse reviews.

That folkes, are how 80s and 90s film music used to work.

TDS-Matt reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-21 06:07:03
I'mg going to throw up a spoiler warning just in case, but I saw Pirates 5 for a second time tonight and have a pretty good idea where each of these themes fit, and I figured I'd let you know what you're in for.

Also, I'm not especially well-versed with specific cue titles -- I'm an idiot and always associate the Will and Elizabeth kiss from Curse of the Black Pearl with He's a Pirate instead of One Last Shot, etc. -- so I'll try to describe as best I can.

1. Dead Men Tell No Tales

A fair bit of One Day, with a little bit of Dutchman music as well.

2. Salazar

Salazar's new theme, which feels a little bit hard rock and modern.

3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel

Classic Pirates action theme.

4. You Speak Of The Trident

I can't remember specific cues from this section of the movie, though I imagine Carina's theme makes an appearance.

5. The Devil's Triangle

Dark, Salazar's theme.

6. Shansa

This is Barbossa visiting the witch. I don't remember any returning themes here.

7. Kill the Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait

A mix of that classic Pirates action theme, One Day, and a brief Hoist the Colours appearance.

8. The Dying Gull

Hoist the Colours

9. El Matador Del Mar

More Salazar theme.

10. Kill The Sparrow

This is the flashback to Jack besting Salazar, so there's some of the latter's theme and bit of Jack to sell his origin story.

11. She Needs The Sea

This is all Black Pearl.

12. The Brightest Star In The North

Carina's theme!

13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill

Action cues as Salazar attacks Jack and company at night.

14. The Power Of The Sea

More action cues.

15. Treasure

There's a slower, sadder version of the music that plays when Beckett is killed in At World's End. (I really like this part of the movie, and the score really works.)

16. My Name Is Barbossa

Spoilers :) Depending on the track split, One Day could pop up here...

17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon

...or here, along with He's a Pirate.


Eric2017-05-21 20:38:30
Does Barbossa have his own theme in the movie and if he does is it on any of the soundtracks from the first four movies.


Alyssa2017-05-22 04:52:17
Judging by the last minute or so of the premiere livestream, I'm glad that they've gone back to the tradition of having 'He's A Pirate' launching the end credits before segueing into what sounds like one of the brand new themes specific to Pirates 5. It's a shame that 'On Stranger Tides' cheated somewhat on this front by simply regurgitating Jack's heroic and action themes for their segue.


TDS-Matt2017-05-23 05:36:11
I didn't notice Barbossa having his own theme.

(I also goofed a little bit - pretty sure El Matador Del Mar is the flashback with Salazar and Jack, and Kill the Sparrow is the bit with zombie sharks.)

Iamtommie reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-22 08:40:02
If you go to the Pirates Of The Caribbean Facebookpage, there is a livestream of the premiere on the Hollywood Boulevard. At 25:15, 39:53 & 49:10 you can hear some things of the new soundtrack!


Joseph Solano2017-05-23 01:19:46
25:15 has Hoist the Colors! I'm crying holy shit!

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-22 07:03:58
Here is a new b-roll video. At 13:25 sec footage from the recordings session can be seen. You hear really shorts bits of the soundtrack. I think the new music you can hear is Carina's theme.
https://youtu.be/SuHRyxgUs04

retlaw1971 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-21 12:50:30
anyone familiar with this: https://youtu.be/R1K-msoUEEU


Waymann2017-05-21 17:06:47
Fake, you can hear the soundtrack from The Great Wall mixed pieces from the trailers and bad computer generated covers of the original themes.

Anonymous reply Replies: 4 || 2017-05-20 15:27:39
Hello Pirates fans I have a question what is Captain Barbossa's theme song I have been trying to figure that out for a long time he is the only main character of the franchise that doesn't have a theme Suite but what exactly is his theme please if you have any idea respond.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-20 16:14:48
Mmmmh the closest thing to a theme he has is the Blake Neely theme wrote for his "death" scene in POTC 1. It's reused at the end of POTC 2 just before he gets back, and is also used in POTC 3 during "Jiggy Kraken" during the Jack / Barbossa deep talk.

Then it's used for... something else entirely in the 4th and the East India Trading Company theme became his theme... lol


Lynk2017-05-20 16:35:55
Given how he "changes colors" and "shifts allegiance" during the franchise it is somewhat difficult to pinpoint a theme for Barbossa. The closest thing I have heard that may represent a theme of motif for this character is that dark "Black Pearl" tune which appears mostly for the cursed pirates during the first movie. That tune makes an appearance again towards the end of the fourth film when Barbossa takes over the QMR ship too, hence the connection I made. Of course, I'd doubt if this tune was originally written with this character in mind back in the first film.

Now shifting attention to this album here, I actually think that track 16 above could represent music for something different than what most have come to deduce - especially given the materials that's been leaked to the web from the earlier drafts of the script. I sure do want a track or concert suite dedicated to Barbossa, though. The most iconic character in the series after Sparrow deserves one!


Anonymous2017-05-20 18:22:27
@Hybrid Solider do you mean Underwater March? The song when Barbossa dies if it is then that might be his theme song because on the Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack Wikipedia page it says for the song Tia Dalma that Barbossa's supposed theme song he has is on that track and the Underwater March is on the track.@Lynk yes I also wish Barbossa had a Suite Lourne Balfe one of the many composers of the Pirates franchise actually made a theme for Barbossa but Jerry Brucheimer didn't like it so it wasn't put in the movie.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-21 11:07:12
Yes that's it. I'm confused, I haven't heard the OST program in many years ! lol

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-20 01:22:40
Jack being captured. That classic Sparrow theme. bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-my8mGFoFy0

Henry meets Jack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPsw-b_FbfU

Gprice reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-20 00:52:51
Here's a link to the recorded Facebook livestream which has a lot of the new music in it:

https://www.facebook.com/PiratesoftheCaribbean/videos/101552 31329688830/

JBSO99 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-17 19:13:34
Could somebody help me to create a playlist with all the suites from the different themes that has been released?
I already have the Jack Sparrow suite, Davy Jones theme, the Kraken theme, Mermaids theme, Balckbeard theme, Hoist the Colours suite and I could use the track Marry mMe as the suite of the Will and Elizabeth theme.
What other themes or suites I am missing? Thanks in advance for the help!


Iamtommie2017-05-17 19:43:43
A view:
He's A Pirates (Main Theme)
Tia Dalma / Calypso (Tia Dalma's/Calypso's Theme)
Lord Cutler Beckett (Beckett's Theme)
Just Good Business (British Theme)
Angelica (Angelica's Theme)
On Stranger Tides (On Stranger Tides/Spanish Theme)


Max Potcats2017-05-17 20:55:08
There is also more suites in the completes scores that you can find on YT :

-Pirates of the Caribbean Theme (Original Demo)
-Pirates, Day One, 4:56 AM (Album Suite)

-Jack's Theme Bare Bones (Piano Demo)
-The Heart of Davy Jones (Album Suite)

-Beckett's Theme (Original Demo)
-The Pirate Lord of Singapore (Album Suite)
-Marry Me (Album Suite)
-Hoist the Colours (Album Suite)

and a lot of suite of potc OnStTi
I think i didn't forgot some..


JBSO992017-05-18 15:34:24
Okay, thanks. More or less I think this is a collection of about 20 tracks so it's not bad at all. Let's hope this new album has some new suites, I suppose for Carina, Barbossa, Salazar or Henry. Cannot wait to hear the new score!


Joseph Solano2017-05-19 00:25:18
For On Stranger Tides, there are suites for Blackbeard, Angelica, and the Mermaids.


Captain Jack Sparrow2017-05-20 00:34:04
The Suites of the Pirates Of The Caribbean Franchise
•He's A Pirate-Curse Of The Black Pearl Soundtrack
•Jack Sparrow-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•Davy Jones-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•The Kraken-Dead Mans Chest Soundtrack
•Up Is Down-At Worlds End Soundtrack
•Blackbeard-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
•Angelica-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
•Mermaids-On Stranger Tides Soundtrack
• Marry Me-At Worlds End Complete Score
•Lord Cutler Beckett-At Worlds End Complete Score

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 5 || 2017-05-19 21:14:19
I hope they release the credits music. Except for Dead Man's Chest they always do.


Medigo2017-05-19 21:30:43
Eh, creditmusic can always be ripped from DVDs and such.
Wouldnt be a big loss.


Max Potcats2017-05-19 22:43:09
and the new theme from DMC credit was also in the Jack Sparrow Suite so...


iamtommie2017-05-19 23:00:31
I think Dead Men Tell No Tales is the End Credits beginning


Max Potcats2017-05-19 23:34:33
I think this rather can be the ouverture music, like "On Stranger Tides" of potc4


Captain Jack Sparrow 2017-05-20 00:22:56
I believe either My Name Is Barbossa has the end credits or Beyond My Beloved Horizon thought that could be one of the 3 suites that are suppose to be on the score.

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