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Well... Zanelli composed Tia Dalma and the percussive Island music from the past trilogy at the least... also the spaniards theme from OST which was my favorite new theme. <br><br>in a new interview Zanelli explains that he, both directors and Zimmer sat down to decide on the new music, so Zimmer is still present... search the interview in filmmusicmg.comno Eric sorry but there is nothing noticeable in the score for Barbossa. Nothing new i mean :/Does Barbossa have a theme in Dead Men Tell No Tales?Ok guys, I just saw the movie too, in "avant-premi&#232;re" in France. I must begin by saying i'm a huge fan of PotC since 10 years now, and especially thanks to the music, such original for a "hollywood movie". I remember myself earing the Singapore theme in the theatre, and thinking "ooh my god, I've never heard something like that before ! It's sooo coool !". And, I have never heard anything like this since  in others blockbusters. The scores was very uniques.<br> Since 10 years now i'm a fan of Zimmer too and i know every single note of every Pirate film, and i'm not kidding. <br>So the movie was ok, great beginning, disappointing ending but LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SCORE !!!<br><br>First of all, Zanelli is not Zimmer. It's simple : after watching any pirate movie (even OnStTi) we had a new theme in mind (The Main Theme, the Kraken Theme, Davy Jones, Hoist the Colors, One Day, Up Is Down, Mermaids etc.). Here, we don't. The music "feels pirate" but that's all ; no remarquable new great theme... sorry guys.  Well, the only really remarquable is the Salazar's theme, between The Kraken, BlackBeard and Davy Jones, but we just remember the rock guitar, not the melody ;-(<br><br>It's hard to admit, especially from a fan who expected a lot from Zanelli, but the Soundtrack is just another hollywood soundtrack, barely remarkable, without originality. The greats themes are these from the others movies, the Zimmer's ones. And very often that's almost exactly the same : "Day One" in the beginning ; "Barbossa Is Hungry" or the Beckett's Death music in "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" is steel for the climax of potc5...<br><br>So, i'm nor waiting the soundtrack anymore, maybe IF there is some suites in it, but I don't think so... Too Bad. I miss Zimmer and Verbinski ;-(Somebody on Reddit posted that the soundtrack is already on sale at Disneyland.
I loved Chappie . Why didn't he worked with the other composers from the film ?It seems to be a feature film I think but why not work with Zimmer again ?My heart definitely goes out to Zack Snyder, I hope his family will pull through. Regardless of opinion, I think he is an enormously talented director who never got quite as much credit as he deserved.<br><br>Now that Joss Whedon is taking over the finishing touches on Justice League I wonder how this will affect the sound of JXL's music. <br>Where can we find out about deluxe soundtrack releases, for instance if Dunkirk was also released in a "special edition" or whichever, where could I learn or hear about it?Salazar is just another version of Davy Jones and his crew but with no motivation. <br><br>Jerry Bruckheimer -<br><br>Before OST:<br>"Blackbeard is probably the evilest character we've ever had"<br>"It harkens back more the first one."<br>"The beginning of a whole new adventure... a whole new fresh look to the pirates movies"<br>"We've got these two beautiful new characters"<br><br>Before DMTNT<br>"I think Salazar is the head of the family tree of the previous villains. He is the most frightening weíve ever had because heís merciless."<br>"What's fresh about this is the fact we're introducing these new characters"<br>"It's so fresh, so different, so scary"<br><br>
Well for me sadly it is just a reminder of how great the original trilogy was. The best things in this movie are the returning characters, and the returning love theme from At World's End. Aside from that, it's just like the 4th movie: another forgettable round in the same old attraction. Except this time there are some naval battles, so at least it looks like a pirates movie, which makes it just a little better than the 4th one. But still far, far below the first 3 movies.Just saw the film. Was great by the way, much much beter than On Stranger Tides. Now on the score: I'm not blow away by it (Not all the new theme's are great) BUT... First the new theme for Carina and the stars is by far the best new thing in the pirates soundtrack universe. It's beautiful, something new and adventurous. The new adventure theme is actually a new variation on He's a Pirate or Jack's theme (can't really tell, need to here it again.) which has been used a lot in previous films during the action sequences. First time i heard it, it thought it was a little bit simple and unoriginal but hearing it for a multiple times in the film I really started to like it! It's good they made something new to use during the action sequences instead of the overused he's a pirate or jack's theme, It gives the movie it's own voice.<br><br>Salazar's theme was for me the most dissapointing, it sounded too much like Davy Jones and his crew, also I don't even remember it. Missed opportunity over here. But what really stood out for me are the old themes. Dear lord I got goosebumps at the end when One Day (Will & Elizabeth's theme from Pirates 3) is used, it's emotional and epic. Also the beginning of the movie has a some tragic variations of Will and Elizaberh theme from Pirates 3. Hopefully this will be on the soundtrack! Also somethimes the Marry Me suite is used shortly for Henry during action moments. <br><br>It's amazing to see that these themes, made 10 years ago, still have there effect as they are used in a new movie (it also helpes ofcourse that storylines from At World's End finally pay off in this film) and they are used in a proper way, they always fit the scene in this movie (not like in On Stranger Tides we're theme's are used in scenes that didn't have a connection to it at all). I really hope the score album will make a good represention of this films complete soundtrack, waiting another multiple years for a complete score? (the opening track in this film for exemple, or that short little string piece when Carina appolizes to Henry) I don't think I can do that. Looking forward to friday to hear what they will give us.Amazon has it listed for this Friday, May 26th.well... yeah. that's the purpose of film music... complement the images, not just being there... I had read that review, but only that critic I've seen trash the music as well...<br><br>But don't go to far.. that's exactly the type of criticism is being thrown at Spielberg/Williams lately.. and if you don't believe me, just search for WarHorse reviews.<br><br>That folkes, are how 80s and 90s film music used to work.Genius, to be fair, the score for At World's End got some, not a lot, but some nasty reviews as well, and for similar "reasons" as well: too loud, too bombastic, saying more than what's happening on the screen, etc. I think we just need to listen to the score and watch the movie to see for ourselves... because if anyone is like me, I love all the scores and movies except for On Stanger Tides... regardless of the poor reviews. I've been wrong before though lol
"Geoff Zanelliís score is one of the most annoying of recent memory, but maybe itís not the composerís fault. For slow, dull action scenes he scores loud, propulsive music to make the audience think itís seeing something that isnít there. We get the horns of profundity and the strings of sincerity, not to mention the soaring choruses that tell us that grand things are really happening now, oh boy ó and that these people are really feeling something ó and arenít we privileged to be swept away on this epic of joy and adventure? . . . And none of it is on the screen."<br><br>...<br><br>" In the midst of all the galloping, carousing and general crazy hysteria of the movie, the score by Geoff Zanelli acts as a metaphor for the movie itself, working so hard to inspire feeling, but sounding like clanging desperation instead."<br><br>Score getting hammered as well. =<br><br><br>Anyone know when the soundtrack will be released? I'd assume the day of the film's release, May 26, but usually the series' soundtracks have been released earlier. I haven't seen anything for the soundtrack on iTunes, which is a bit concerning.Any news what Oats is ??? And is Zimmer doing it alsoLoving it - I enjoy every momentIt amaze me how volatile we as an audience are.<br>First we love an actor for being good, new, and fresh. Then by that, that actor keeps doing what we love him for... then we get bored and then we hate him and doom him for being what he "has become"...<br><br>suddenly he is a "bad" actor, just for keeping doing what made him a good actor in the first place.<br><br>Yes, we are also part of why hollywood is what it is now. We all are part of the same game of shallowness.
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Pirates Of The Caribbean - Dead Men Tell No Tales
Label: Walt Disney Records
Length: 71'42
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  1. Dead Men Tell No Tales (1:51)
  2. Salazar (4:27)
  3. No Woman Has Ever Handled My Herschel (3:59)
  4. You Speak Of The Trident (1:58)
  5. The Devil's Triangle (2:45)
  6. Shansa (3:12)
  7. Kill The Filthy Pirate, I'll Wait (4:50)
  8. The Dying Gull (1:01)
  9. El Matador Del Mar (8:05)
  10. Kill The Sparrow (6:16)
  11. She Needs The Sea (2:32)
  12. The Brightest Star In The North (6:00)
  13. I've Come With The Butcher's Bill (6:41)
  14. The Power Of The Sea (4:07)
  15. Treasure (5:43)
  16. My Name Is Barbossa (5:34)
  17. Beyond My Beloved Horizon (2:41)
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Joseph Solano reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-02 00:20:58
I found this video. It sounds very much like Zimmer. I'm hyped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj3hK-pAfNc


Max Potcats2017-05-02 10:32:57
sounds really great :D


Eric2017-05-03 02:06:15
What is the name of the video?


Joseph Solano2017-05-06 18:46:41
@Eric POTC5 On the set by Joachim Ronning (logo&music)

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 1 || 2017-05-02 00:08:02
All I want from this score is a bunch of new themes and also uses old themes too. Kinda like At World's End. I liked the score for On Stranger Tides, but it was kinda unoriginal. I want themes for Henry, Katrina, Salazar, and other stuff, but I want the themes for Jack, Barbossa, and Will to return.


Eric2017-05-03 02:06:44
Jack's theme is in it.

Scorefan reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-01 21:02:01
Here in Mexico, yesterday i went to see Guardians Of the Galaxy and before it started, Javier Bardem showed up a little scene from Pirates 5. The scene was incredible and recovers the spirit from the first film. The music used in that scene it's a variation for the He's a pirate theme but sounds amazing and wonderful and include choirs. I believe Geoff's score will sound incredible.


Dimitris Krommidas2017-05-01 21:22:11
Great!


Micah2017-05-01 21:45:33
Is that the scene at the gallows? It was leaked on Reddit.

Eric Burke reply Replies: 3 || 2017-03-12 20:19:26
I wonder if some of the themes from the fist four Pirates movies will be there?


Ds2017-03-12 20:53:22
Of course! The film is not produced by Marvel Studios ;-)


JBSO992017-03-13 19:01:36
Of course. The main theme of the end credits need sto be there. If not, it won't be a pirates movie ;) Also I hope the theme of Will and Elizabeth to return and obviously the Jack Sparrow theme


Eric2017-04-30 19:25:55
I found a Tralier of the movie and it had a sneak preview of the movie in it and Jack's theme is in the movie so I'm not worried about them just recreating the whole franchise with a reboot but I hope they add some songs with the old themes on the actual Soundtrack

Owen reply Replies: 4 || 2017-04-27 03:45:19
Got a special chance to hear a part of salazar's theme, sounds like a varied version of blackbeard's theme but it fits appropriately, very evil. You all should like it.


Dimitris Krommidas2017-04-27 10:57:14
Great!


JBSO992017-04-27 16:59:58
Were did you heared that? I want to listen to it too... I hope that you say is true.


Dfault2017-04-30 11:19:02
Think at the Guadians of the Galaxy movie, they show a extended sneakpreview for this movie


Eric2017-04-30 19:22:42
I think it n a Spanish Tralier with Javier Braden it was in it does it have a guitar in it?

Agent reply Replies: 3 || 2017-04-29 13:46:20
Anyone knows the official runtime of Pirates 5?
It's 129 or 135 or 153 minutes.
IMDB and Wikipedia always change things...


Eric2017-04-29 23:35:42
153 minutes I believe


Agent2017-04-30 00:38:47
Thanks.
I hope so.


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-30 00:50:58
Wouldn't be a proper Pirates flick without a bloated running time! :p

Agent reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-28 16:44:17
The cover released today.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XYTGHQS/ref=as_li_qf_sp _asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=filmusrep-20&camp=1789&creative=9325 &linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B06XYTGHQS&linkId=a1bbb938cc1c49d 18814d57e2375d3d4

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 6 || 2017-04-26 02:56:50
Any news on the album?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-26 12:52:59
Release date 26th of May, it says under "more details".

Although maybe you should ask the 704 people who have voted on it already, because they seem to have heard the score!


Waymann2017-04-26 15:58:00
Hopefully the artwork looks good, because the posters they released for this film are so bad and ugly.


Agent2017-04-26 17:06:39
Is this poster bad? It's one of the best I have seen.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5560e1bbe4b0cc18bc643 12d/5562957ce4b03107de7ca6ca/58f0476a5016e1685c5e99af/149214 1933102/17015800_10154981836668830_529268610073059017_o.jpg


Dimitris Krommidas2017-04-26 17:10:16
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean:_Dead _Men_Tell_No_Tales

The main poster of the film is the best yes. I hope they put it for the album cover.


Agent2017-04-26 17:31:40
I like all the posters they released for the film.
But if someone don't like them it's fine.
I will agree with you Dimitris, I too want the main poster as the cover for the album.


Waymann2017-04-27 11:15:38
It's feel like they all look like images they use for merchandise books and magazine's, also the posters look like they are for a movie for children. But that's my opinion. The postes for all other films were fantastic, these feel like a big downgrade. Maybe that's why I don't like them.

Agent reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-10 19:51:57
Any news for the cover and tracklist?

Uhhh... reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-08 00:21:54
How did 407 people hear this score and rate it already?


Anonymous2017-04-08 03:48:28
They didn't it's just one of the many flaws of this website

Kong reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-05 11:38:23
Hello. This query is mainly directed towards Hybrid, but if anybody else can help me, please feel free to respond. With the release of "Dead Men Tell No Tales", do you think the other 4 Pirates of the Caribbean soundtracks will finally be released digitally? Perhaps they already have been released, but in Australia they are impossible to purchase in a digital format. Just wondering.


Macejko2017-04-05 16:17:46
I know this doesn't really answer your question, but if they indeed ever won't release it digitally, you should consider buying the physical copies instead. They not only provide a great collectible items, but after backing the files from them to your PC you'll be getting a much better audio quality than the standard digital download of 320kbps mp3.


Eric2017-04-06 04:14:14
On iTunes they are on there I'm going that the 5th score will be released digitally you can preorder the CD on Amazon right now

Dimitris Krommidas reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-03 22:05:40
Check also Film Music Reporter for news on the album.
There is a new entry for this.

JBSO99 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-03-12 11:08:56
Tina Guo is credited here, so maybe we get another Is She With You? That would be awesome. Cannot wait for this score!


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-12 14:26:44
I doubt it. That would be all the wrong tone for Pirates anyway. She's probably just going to provide the typical Jack Sparrow cello stuff alongside Martin Tillman.


JBSO992017-03-13 18:59:16
Yeah, that's right. a piece like Is She With you doesen't fits in the caribbean world. I only hope it keeps the level of the previous scores.


theeaglesfan0052017-03-26 03:37:25
She posted on social media today: "You can hear my Electric Cello & Cello on the new Pirates of the Caribbean Film coming out in May!"


Lambegue2017-03-26 14:10:34
Well, I didn't like "Is she with you ?" very much, so I hope the tone will be quite different in her cues for this one...


Eric2017-03-31 03:07:44
I can see Tina Guo doing like a almost heavy metal version of He's a Pirate or Jack's theme like if you have seen the trailer's it could be when The Black Pearl is going on the side of the Abyss

Marco reply Replies: 3 || 2017-03-27 11:04:17
Hi, anyone know when Pirates 5's Audio CD will be released? I am collecting all Pirates' Soundtrack and I will buy also this new one. Thanks fot the answers.


Eric2017-03-28 01:02:34
I'm hoppping it comes out the day of the movie comes out but Disney is releasing some of the merchandise after the movie comes out if you would like to know I would try going to the composer Geoff Zanellis website and asking theme it usually takes 2 days but they will email back if not call the Disney music group or Remote Control Productions


Marco2017-03-29 20:21:39
Yes please! :)


Eric2017-03-31 03:04:45
Actually if you click see details above it says the CD will be released 5/17 so it is coming out in May.

Ds reply Replies: 13 || 2017-03-08 22:28:16
The great Steve Mazzaro is on board !! Yeah!!!!


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-08 23:14:39
"The great"? I don't know. Jury's still out on him for me, as we haven't really heard what he's capable of on his own.


Ds2017-03-09 00:39:01
Well he definitely looks like the new big guy from RCP. He's been on board of almost every HZ score since 2012, contributed to the best tracks of Chappie and Batman v Superman, I don't know it's a feeling I have. In Steve I trust!


MigMusi2017-03-09 02:13:27
The Great ???!!! Don't think so . Gone are the days of Balfe,Glennie-smith, Powell, Gregson-Williams helping Hans


Anonymous2017-03-09 09:01:48
Great?
He's terrible. All the scores he has been involved with were ruined with horrendous boring grating ambient sound design and mixing.

So "additional MUSIC" seems a bit too generous. It the same as being called a photographer because you can set an instagram filter.


Brent2017-03-09 17:31:46
Let's just say having Paul on board makes me very excited. Having Steve on board makes me nervous. Having the both of them on board is very interesting. :)


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-09 21:17:53
Well Mounsey was on Inferno too, so...yeah, let's hope they don't go THAT direction. Yikes.


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-09 21:55:07
None of Paul's work ended up in Inferno's final score...


mpolonest123 2017-03-09 22:48:09
@Hybrid What did Paul write that wasn't used?


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-10 00:24:31
... Music ? :P


I have no idea ! That's the point of it not being in the film !! lol


mpolonest1232017-03-10 01:00:01
Lol I wasn't sure if you specifically knew what it was.

But Steve Mazzaro really is an interesting choice for Pirates. At least it isn't Kawcynski


Mike2017-03-10 05:11:22
Hans needs to find other people to work with . Steve etc have no musical voice
And paint by numbers . Hans needs a the likes of glennie-smith and harry/rupert type of people again to work with .


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-10 14:59:05
Again, it's kind of unfair to knock Mazzaro for not having a musical voice when we have not really heard any solo scores from him yet. It's easy to go back to Zimmer's earlier scores and say "oh yeah, Balfe/Orvarsson/Jackman/NGS/HGW etc. did a great job there, you can totally hear them" because those guys have all done a lot of work on their own and we have a frame of reference now. The only solo Mazzaro score I've heard is Bullet to the Head, which is not any sort of indication of anything because it's written in this weird bluesy-rock style. Kawczynski has, as far as I know, zero solo works.

No, I haven't been as impressed by Zimmer's work with these guys either. But it's hard to say whether that's on them or Zimmer himself. So I'm not comfortable calling Mazzaro "the great", nor am I comfortable calling him "terrible". We simply don't know what he is at this point.


Ds2017-03-10 15:47:38
You're right Edmund. But personally almost everytime I see detailed credits, his name appear on the cues I like the most. So I just have a feeling he's gonna become a great composer. I may be wrong of course, no one knows at this point (except probably HZ).

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 6 || 2017-03-08 12:44:02
Get hype.


isildur2017-03-08 15:24:11
Whatt? It's out in May? That's like ages. I though it's releasing this month :(


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-08 15:42:07
That hasn't stopped 13 people from rating the score already! ;)


Joshua2017-03-08 17:59:08
Mounded on a Pirates score?! That's exciting.


Joshua2017-03-08 18:00:11
Fucking auto correct! I meant Mounsey.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-08 21:14:51
Mounsey is everywhere these days!

I guess it's the closest we will ever hear to a John Powell PotC score...that and the James McKee Smith bits of Curse of the Black Pearl. :p


mpolonest1232017-03-08 23:19:24
@Edmund

Not to mention Anthony B. Willis, who has done some additional music for Pan, Rio 2, and HTTYD2...

If this ends up sounding like Powell mixed with Pirates, I will die a happy man.

Hopefully this also puts Geoff in the spotlight. He's one of those composers who gets pigeonholed in scoring shitty movies that most people usually ignore.

Agent reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-08 13:22:36
Yes!

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