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Right. The difference between Zimmer and many other composers (for me at least) is that you can almost immediately tell if you like a Zimmer score off the bat. DMTNT is something that needs a few listens to grow on you, and so far I'm liking what I hear.<br><br>When I heard Fantastic Beasts for the first time I was initially disappointed but after about 3 listens and hearing it in context it became my favorite score of the year. Everyone is different of course, but I feel like this score will grow on people with time.Well... as you say, Zanelli's tunes tend to be less streamlined. You can hear it in his themes for Into the West, The Pacific, Outlander (the movie) and even the Spaniards themes in OST. <br><br>Not to say Zimmer's aren't great in their own merit, but are not always the same exact approach.For everyone complaining about the mix of this album don't forget, nothing beats Curse of the Black Pearl in terms of an awful recording mix. When you have a 'synthy' sounding orchestra and bass gain distortions that actually make it to album this really isn't anything in comparison.<br><br>And I think the key difference between Zimmer and Zanelli (at least on this franchises' terms) is that most of the themes Zimmer wrote for the franchise (Davy Jones, Beckett, Kraken, pretty much all of the original tunes from the 1st one, etc.) were actually incredibly simplistic. Geoff's tunes are less streamlined. They aren't bad by any means, but it's telling when the strongest parts are the reprises of things like Hoist the Colours and Marry Me."How did they manage to make a 100 piece orchestra sound like a demo for an off the shelf sample library?"<br><br>MV/RC has existed for over two decades now and you're actually still surprised at this? XDfinal veredict?
Oh dear . Where is the theme ?Comes across very likeable and enthusiastic.Now I'm even more excited!I'm on track 9 at the moment. Nothing especially memorable so far, but I do love the return of the Love Theme and Hoist the Colors.<br><br>Salazar's theme isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it does seem to get repetative quickly. Hopefully the score isn't as blatantly bad on-screen as OST was. That film and score was a mess.Cool insight on POTC 5 !
Now that the album is out there I can easily say that I love this score. Definitely my 2nd favorite behind MoS. <br><br>Musically, much of it has that "Last Samurai/Transformers" power anthem style (with one of the themes sounding like King Arthur) but with RGW's string writing style as opposed to the bass heavy approach of those scores. The WW cello theme isn't used a whole lot, but when it gets some screen time it feels earned, and steals the show. The villain material is the weakest part, but instrumentally is pretty cool with the incorporation of the cimbalom (it reminds me slightly of Sherlock at points)<br><br>Overall, easily one of the best scores so far this year.Hans has not done this one because he was working on dunkirk at the time as far as I know. I saw the movie last night and for sure things like "What shall we die for", "One day", "Jack Sparrow", the legendary "He's a pirate" or even the bit of the musical clock/bell theme from davy jones and Calypso at the VERY end of the film are things that Hans wrote of course. In the movie itself you hear this stuff very often especially in the first hour of the movie which is packed with old themes. But Geoff Zanelli still wrote the other 60%/65% of the music so I can imagine that Hans said that they can give it to Zanelli because even if most of the themes are from Hans, he was most likely not heavily involved at the writing and scoring process. He was most likely there at the beginning of the process like Zanelli said in an interview and made sure that this story needed things like one day or the medallion calls. And he is not credited because of the fact that he was doing dunkirk and for sure his live tour and so he was like mentioned before only there at the beginning of the process and wrote/refined the new versions of one day or he's a pirate if he did anything. But i thought as well that they could have mentioned him in the credits like they mentioned Zanelly or even Steve Jablonsky in the credits of the first one or John Williams at Rogue One.I missed that, sorry! I agree with your other comment.<br><br>Jackman's contribution to the 2nd half of love suite, his rollicking orchestral mayhem in "I don't know if now is the best time" provide plenty of evidence of him imposing his style effectively on the material. <br>"Going back to ground 0" doesn't mean "make a poor movie".<br>I would like more Pirates movies, but not if they make them as bad as the 4th and 5th ones. They could have written an original story (I'm sure there are good writers out there who could have found something fresh) and started a new adventure just like the 2nd and 3rd movies did. It's not impossible.<br>But rather they just tried to remake the 1st movie. If they did it for the 5th one, why do you think they wouldn't do it for the 6th one? Judging by the post-credit scene, they are clearly not afraid of ripping off the previous movies even more... :-DHi Hans!<br><br>Your scores helped me pass through difficult times, in life.<br>Never heard music that touches me so deep inside.<br>Thanks - to you and your Team - and go on like this.<br>When do you come to Germany with your Team (live in concert)?<br><br>If you like to answer: atlantis42195@gmail.com<br>------------------------------------------<br>Hallo Hans!<br><br>Ein dickes Lob an Sie und Ihr Team.<br>Ihre Musik half mir, durch schwere Zeiten im Leben zu kommen.<br>Nie zuvor kannte ich Musik, welche mich derart berührt.<br>Wann kommen Sie wieder nach Deutschland, mit Ihrem Team?<br><br>Weiter so und beste Grüße, aus Düsseldorf!<br>Falls Sie antworten möchten:atlantis42195@gmail.com<br><br>Jill W.<br>
Yeah... I know what you mean...<br><br>First of all, I want this movie to be a fun ride. I cannot ask of it what I would ask of a Nolan production, for once. But I know I cannot ask of this movie what I would ask of a 2nd or a 3rd part. I say this because since DMTNT begins production they (producers) hinted it was the BEGINNING of a new adventure, So they had to go back to "ground 0". And is not too difficult to guess that they'd try the Star Wars formula; POTC 5 is basically Force Awakens in its intentions at the least.<br><br>So what really put me off is the fact that all this hate will only cause to not greenlit more adventures :( , because, well.. apparently audience doesn't want this dessert anymore.If that cheesy ending was "so so cool", it's just because it's a powerful reminder of how beautiful the 3rd movie was. And even more so in comparison to this dreadful 5th outing.Yeah I made a shitty suite ! :( :( :( lolLots of people complaining about the film and the score, makes me a little bit irritated. Of course this was never gonna reach the level of the first films. It never will be, it's been 10 years. I am a hugh fan of these films and after watching the new film I felt so good. That cheesy ending was actually so so cool. The movie wasn't perfect put they did some good things in it. I haven't heard this album yet but I listened to the samples and everything I wanted on this album, I did hear those parts in the samples. Afterwards I was humming that new adventure theme all day, even how unoriginal it is. It's cool and Carina's theme is a great new addition. This score is much than On Stranger Tides maybe think about that. Let this score grow on you. Most people now base their opinion on just this suite. Honestly ? It doens't reflect the score that well.I have yet to listen to the score, and I will after see the movie because I want to experience it on the movie itself first.<br><br>But if you read the very insightful interview with Zanelli for filmmusicamg, he talks about the "differences" between composers at RCP, and when Zimmer liked something of Zenelli its because, in Zimmer's words "it sounds so Geoff" (I think he was racalling it about Tia Dalma's theme and the tribal island music from DMC). So I think is kind of unfair to expect Geoff's music to sound very Zimmer's, realistically speaking. <br><br>I've been listening Zanelli's scores a few years now, and I think I Identify his style and his type os themes, which are not like Zimmer`s at all (talking about notes specifically)... so based on his scores I expect this to be a very Geoff Zanelli score leaning to POTC style and just a little of Zimmer.<br><br>You can see the differences in the OST album, just listen on what Zimmer composed and the listen the Spaniard's theme, which is by Zanelli.
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antovolk reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-12 15:29:28
....any updates?


Randy Watson2017-05-12 18:10:48
According to one of the producers of La La Land Records, it won't be released


Ahmad2017-05-13 00:10:36
What a sh*t decision they made, it is bound to leak someday, and they'll regret not releasing it officially.


Zac2017-05-17 18:12:38
Won't be released from La La Land Records, or won't be released at all? Lorne is still actively retweeting the GITSOST campaign on Twitter...

... reply Replies: 8 || 2017-04-27 22:13:13
you added credits! finnaly we can see at least who was working on it, hopefully there will be release


JBSO992017-04-28 15:30:54
I hope so, but why Clint Mansell is not in here? And now Lorne appears as composer and not co-composer. Does that means that they will release only the Lorne score parts or something like that?


...2017-04-28 15:56:45
Clint is not part of Remote Control Productions, so that´s why he in not listed here


JBSO992017-04-30 09:34:29
I know that he is not part of RPC, but what about James Newton Howard. As far as I know he's not part of RCP. Did he was part of it during some time? Because you can see his collaborations with Zimmer in The Dark Knight and some of his other score but 2010 is the last year when a score from him appears in here.


...2017-04-30 10:09:02
Yes he was part of RCP... And it looks like to me that Trevor Morris is not part of RCP too


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-30 10:29:17
James isn't, but his studio is just 2 blocks away from RCP...


Michael Poleschuck2017-04-30 10:45:08
Cool!


JBSO992017-05-02 13:08:27
Oh, thanks for the info Hybrid. That's nice!


Zac2017-05-04 06:30:16
Does anybody have any updates on the status of this? The petition has garnered a lot of signatures and attention by now...

peter reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-22 00:25:21
Can you at least upload here some extracts please?

antovolk reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-21 15:35:10
Hybrid, have you heard anything new on this?


JBSO992017-04-21 20:40:54
I hope this gets released soon. This score is just amazing. All those synths and so make it perfect and I say that having watching the film only once. Please release this!!!

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 8 || 2017-04-20 00:19:35
Having not seen the film and having no desire to waste my time, I am genuinely curious what the hype is all about.

For anyone who has seen it, what does it sound like? I love Balfe and Mansell, so this is pretty intriguing to me.


Ando2017-04-20 05:22:57
Not sure how to describe it reallly . Beautiful . Soulful . Electronic vibes and orchestral. Nothing like anything I've heard before at least .


Everan2017-04-20 16:55:12
Is it like Tron Legacy? More sinthy, less sinthy, orchestral and so on?


Ando2017-04-20 17:16:58
Nothing like Tron. It's a fresh approach of Wendy Carlos and classical.
Very emotional and unique


mpolonest123 2017-04-20 17:24:43
Interesting.

I heard a few comparisons to Terminator Genisys, but I'm really curious about Mansell's contribution.


David2017-04-20 20:17:13
It's very much like TRON :)


Ando2017-04-20 20:44:43
Tron wasn't original ! This is . Hints of bladerunner also


David2017-04-21 00:54:34
How isn't TRON original?


Ando2017-04-21 02:04:50
Listen to Bladrunner , Dark Knight and the original Torn !!!

Tomo reply Replies: 5 || 2017-04-13 15:11:20
https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the- shell-2017-soundtrack

A petition has been started to get the album released .


Everan2017-04-13 20:37:45
Signed! It worked on the first Transformers, let's hope history repeats itself.


Mike2017-04-13 22:43:29
Signed - hope this works


Anonymous2017-04-19 10:38:53
Is this petition gone? Haven't seen the movie but from what I read this score seem to be amazing so I want to sign.

Anyway not going to see the movie if there is no score release. it will only make me frustrated. What I don't know, I can't miss :)


Zac2017-04-19 20:08:55
The petition is still up! It appears that an extra space in the above URL was causing it to not work correctly. This one should work: https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the- shell-2017-soundtrack-gitsost


Zac2017-04-19 20:10:47
Annnnd it added the extra space again for some reason... Just copy and paste the url into your browser but make sure that the extra space between "the" and "shell" isn't there.

Micheal reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-16 22:48:03
First clip of Ron Howard's show Genius that Lorne is composing is on line . https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyYqyYAKGC0

Music sounds pretty great .

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 3 || 2017-04-14 11:40:08
Someone said he talked with Balfe and the release of score:

I talked personally with Lorne Balfe and he said that him and his management are working on releasing the score, but no drop date has been issued


Pete2017-04-14 14:03:45
Signed . Really would love to listen to the soundtrack because it really stood out in the film . Amazing work


Ando2017-04-15 02:12:35
Just signed . Think this worked when they did it for Transformers . If they release this score - it could easily be my best score this year .


Thomas2017-04-16 00:05:50
defaintly would love this score. saw the film and the score was the best thing about it

antovolk reply Replies: 5 || 2017-04-12 16:42:50
Lorne is tweeting everyone that score release won't be happening.


Ahmad2017-04-13 04:17:18
This is ridiculous! I haven't seen the movie but I want to, and to think that I might enjoy the score but won't be able to listen to it by itself! Yikes.


Zac2017-04-13 04:53:14
I messaged him on Facebook last night and he just responded: "Hi Zac, no news at the moment . I think if there is enough of a request on social media then there will be a release . Thank you for the support though - lorne"

At least it sounds like there's a chance. It's just up to us now! I wonder what our best plan of action is... Tweeting at Lakeshore Records maybe?


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-13 08:35:39
Crazy that a film of this magnitude would not get a score release in this day and age.


antovolk2017-04-13 09:09:52
Well apparently Lakeshore don't have the rights to it anymore...


Zac2017-04-14 00:32:56
I messaged him on Facebook a couple of nights ago and he responded: "No news at the moment . I think if there is enough of a request on social media then there will be a release . Thank you for the support though - lorne"

And he just sent me this link this morning: https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the- shell-2017-soundtrack-gitsost

Joseph Solano reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-12 23:31:31
This seems to be an Age of Ultron situation.


Anonymous2017-04-13 00:37:42
Uh Age of Ultron got a release. GItS is not :(

Phil7 reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-09 19:26:30
Great score . I couldn't really tell who did what though but either way good job


rockhound2017-04-10 11:02:15
if it is hard to tell who did what, then it is a bit strange to hire balfe for help. because that means balfe wrote in the same style as mansell. so why did they hire balfe? or balfe wrote almost the whole score. then it makes sense, that there are no differences.


antovolk2017-04-12 16:53:28
think Balfe re-recorded most of Mansell's stuff?

Cyberpunk88 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-10 00:38:57
Really disappointed this isn't available (yet). Why can't they just put it on iTunes if a physical release is too much trouble..


Jim2017-04-10 01:45:44
Obviously there was more going on behind-the-scenes than just problems at the pressing plant. This release was canceled for more reasons than that (probably having to do with Balfe's involvement).

Joshua reply Replies: 45 || 2017-03-29 00:14:52
Balfe is scoring Geostorm as well. Dudes everywhere!


Scorefan2017-03-29 01:22:12
What happened with Pinar Toprak? It supposed she will make the score


Joshua2017-03-29 01:28:19
Apparently she was replaced.


Scorefan2017-03-29 03:15:29
Wow, it's a surprise. From what i know, the movie should have arrived in 2016 and she worked on the movie for almost two years when it was in production.


rockhound2017-03-29 09:04:11
jerry bruckheimer came on board for re-shots, so ofc they also have to change the score now. i like lorne, but a score by pinar toprak would have been really nice.


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-29 10:01:28
Well that is depressingly predictable. Pinar Toprak is incredibly talented, and it's not that Balfe *isn't*, but he's so ubiquitous. He's not the one in need of a big break. And for all Zimmer's talk recently of raising the profile of female composers in Hollywood...


rockhound2017-03-29 10:18:02
im sure its because bruckheimer wants his typical sound and for this type of movie, its no surprise, that he wants a rcp score. i was very surprised when bruckheimer accepted christopher young for Deliver Us from Evil. but that movie was not typical rcp territory and the director worked also with young before.


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-29 23:24:03
It's not about who "needs" a break or "deserve" it. She got a chance, she blew it in the mind of people making this (probably very lame) film.


SteveMusic2017-03-31 09:59:39
No one should get a movie because they need a break ! Also because of what sex they are . Maybe her score was bad ! That's not sexist . I'm looking forward to
Balfe's score for this


Peter2017-03-31 10:30:18
Why is it a shame that her score has been replaced ? If you don't do a good job then that is what happens. This will be EPIC . Balfe and Bruckheimer will be amazing .


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-31 12:44:05
Maybe it was bad. Maybe not. We don't know at this stage. All I DO know is that she's a good composer (based on what I've heard of hers previously), and she was likely tossed off the project not because of any fault of her score but because Bruckheimer wanted someone he was familiar with. Without giving her a chance to maybe rework her score instead.

Assuming the reason she was rejected is because she did a bad job is pretty naive.


rockhound2017-03-31 13:39:37
its clear, that it would have been necessary for her to rework the score, not because her score was bad, but because of the extensive reshots. we dont know if bruckheimer didnt want her to rework the music or she just had no time for it. but i also think, bruckheimer is the reason.


Samual2017-03-31 14:53:58
They probably also wanted a big blockbuster score . I haven't heard anything by
Pinar that is big size . She is a great writer but Lorne's music is another league


rockhound2017-03-31 15:14:11
pinar can combine synths with orchestra as good as lorne. her Behind Enemy Lines II shows that. and lets be honest, how can you proof, that you can write big size, if nobody gives you the chance to write such a score?


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-31 15:14:30
She wrote some great action music for The Wind Gods.


Filmmusicfan2017-03-31 15:28:33
It's pretty obvious . Lorne delivers and is a different league . Not sure why this is even a conversation !


Edmund Meinerts2017-03-31 15:39:41
We don't know anything about the situation, so no, it's not "pretty obvious". For all we know Toprak's score is the greatest thing ever composed, a mighty epic that would dwarf even Star Wars or the Lord of the Rings. Alternately, it could also be a great big pile of crap. So you have no foundation for saying that Balfe is "in a different league", none whatsoever. Neither would I for assuming Toprak's score would be better than Balfe's - which is why I never said that, and never will, until I actually hear both scores.

This is what I do know: Lorne Balfe, while a good composer, is hardly starved for work. Pinar Toprak, also a good composer, rarely gets any (especially not on a big effects-driven spectacle like this). That makes this rejection personally disappointing to me as a film music fan.

Incidentally, I wonder if any of these people shitting on Toprak have even heard a note of her music?


rockhound2017-03-31 15:48:03
it gets a bit boring, that lorne is "everywhere" at the moment. if bruckheimer wanted someone from rcp, mark mancina would have been a more interesting choice. im already happy that geoff zanelli composed the new Pirates and not zimmer. and lets face reality. they hired bruckheimer and danny cannon to save the movie, so ofc they also go with a safe composer, who is experienced with this kind of movie and situation.


Michel 2017-03-31 19:31:19
why is it boring lorne is everywhere ? His music is fantastic and it's great to hear
More of his work


Scorefan2017-04-01 01:12:53
The movie should have arrived two years ago. The previous cuts were not satisfactory to the producers. That's the reason why the producers called Bruckheimer and Danny Cannon to the reshoots. Pinar worked 2 years on the film. Dean Devlin originally has in mind another composer but after Dean listened The Wins God he assigned Pinar to wrote the score. With the reshoots and the introduction of Bruckheimer to save the film, i think in part of the contract that he established the film composer, that's the reason of the rejection and the introduction of Lorne.
I have not listened anything from Pinar score, but some people say it's epic.
It could have been interesting hear Pinar score in this blockbuster film, like Carter Burwell when he was assigned to score Thor 2. But we will have to wait when the rejected score surface.


Bioscope2017-04-01 06:15:07
i wonder if that 'other' composer was David Arnold? It's sad that he only does tv now. Even Bond was ripped out from under him....


Zimmermusicfan2017-04-01 12:00:40
Weird why his is even a sexist conversation ! It shouldn't be . Balfe is a top composer and delivers . What big films did the other composer do ? Exactly


rockhound2017-04-01 13:20:00
the only reason balfe scores big films now is because he worked with zimmer many years before. otherwise nobody would have recognized him. ofc he also has to be good, but he only got the chance to prove that, because he worked with zimmer on the right films. the same goes with zanelli, powell, gregson-williams and mancina.


Tim2017-04-01 14:21:14
Rockhound your wrong . Balfe was a very successful composer for tv in the UK before .


rockhound2017-04-01 14:35:44
tim....that is not the point. nobody would have hired balfe for Lego Batman, Ghost In The Shell or Geostorm, because he was already successful in uk television. he gets big size films now, because he worked with zimmer on big size films and could prove that he is a good composer for such films. a mix of connection + skills. pinar toprak has sadly just the skills....


Tim2017-04-01 14:45:01
Rockhound - your apoint doesn't quite make sense though . There are a log list of composers that have worked for Simmer that haven't achieved success ?????


Tim2017-04-01 14:57:25
Excuse my spelling !!!!


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-01 20:31:23
"What big films did the other composer do ? Exactly"

Now imagine if the director of Driving Miss Daisy or Black Rain or Rain Man had said that back in 1988. No Hans Zimmer. See why that's an incredibly stupid thing to say?


Ds2017-04-01 21:24:31
@Edmund, those are not really what anyone would define as "big films". These are small-scale movies with a large audience potential.
If you look back, Hans spent years doing obscure projects (just look at his filmography between 1982 and 1988). Then he was offered Rain Man & Driving Miss Daisy, which allowed him to get noticed. Then he got Backdraft, who allowed him to go for a quite epic sound, in a still relatively small-scale film. He continued scoring small movies for years. His "big blockbuster movies" came only later on, starting from The Lion King.
If you look at Pinar Toprak now, I think she's still at the very first stage: working on obscure movies. Asking for her to get large-scale blockbusters now seems a little early...


SamMusi2017-04-01 21:43:49
Rain man and driving miss Daisy were not $100 million films . Don't think Edmund understands how the industry' works !!!! When a film has reshoots etc the studio brings in the best team / editors , writers and composers .


Macejko2017-04-01 23:44:32
No, Edmund is right, because you can't really apply the 80's moviemaking policy to current standards. I think the risk of hiring Hans to do Driving Miss Daisy is perfectly comparable to this Pinar Toprak doing the - let's be honest here - low profile Geostorm movie, even though budget-wise it might be considered a A-list blockbuster.


Ds2017-04-02 00:27:07
What was the risk exactly hiring Hans to score Driving Miss Daisy?


rockhound2017-04-02 07:54:54
even Rain Man was a success for hans, the producers of Black Rain had problems to hire hans. but ridley scott wanted just him. the same goes for Days Of Thunder. bruckheimer and simpson didnt want him at the beginning, because he was nobody for them. but tony scott wanted him, so they gave him a chance. so...the risk was not to hire hans for Driving Miss Daisy, but because of Driving Miss Daisy. if nobody gives you a chance, you cant prove your talent.


Sam782017-04-02 10:52:00
I don't you get given a 100 million dollar film because " you need a chance" ! You get given it because you have proven you are good . Just like any other business . You don't get a CEO job because you "need a chance" !! Life doesn't work that way. Not sure why this is any different that Pan when Powell took over . No one got upset then . Also - back to the topic in hand - saw ghost earlier today and it was fantastic . Visually beautiful and great action . Balfe and Clint did an amazing job and totally exciting .


Mike2017-04-02 11:18:39
@Hybrid do you have any further credits ? Really loved the score


rockhound2017-04-02 11:24:04
ofc it needs someone who gives you a chance. when trevor rabin co-scored Con Air, it didnt mean automaticaly he was the perfect choice to score Armageddon. but bruckheimer gave him a chance, to prove it. but also on that movie rabin got a lot of help from other composers, because bruckheimer thought, it was better for the movie. but this movie put rabin on the radar of other producers, because bruckheimer gave him a chance to score a big budget movie, although it was just rabins third hollywood movie. not even zimmer was able to get such a big movie assignment with his third movie.


Sam2017-04-02 15:33:06
Trevor wasn't given a "chance" . He was in one of the biggest bands at that time and according to interviews still had to pitch themes ideas . And he was then chosen. No one gets given a chance - they get chosen because they are amazing at what they do


rockhound2017-04-02 16:14:13
you mean so amazing, that bruckheimer thought, that it is better, when trevor gets help by 6 other composers? just because he was a member of a successful rock band doesnt qualify him to write a symphonic score for 140 million dollar movie. it was bruckheimers risk to hire him. and yes, he had to write the themes first, to convince bruckheimer. but themes are not a whole score. so yes....bruckheimer gave him a "chance" to prove that he can handle such a big movie. i mean, trevor scored Glimmer Man, because he gave steven seagal guitar lessons. he never scored a hollywood movie before, but seagal gave him a chance as a favour to score that movie. ofc u call that "a chance". or what else is that?


Everan2017-04-02 17:06:18
This Ghost in the Shell OST really spakrs up converstation here, huh?


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-03 04:20:47
Yeah I don't think Rabin's beginnings on Con Air & Armageddon is a good example because he was fully cornered by RCP.


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 12:15:25
"No one gets given a chance - they get chosen because they are amazing at what they do"

And that's the thing - based on the admittedly limited body of work she has put out so far, Toprak DOES seem to be very good at what she does. But because she's an unknown quantity to Bruckheimer she got replaced by a familiar name. Every talented composer also needs a bit of luck to get those first few gigs. "You get gigs because you've proven that you are good" - but how do you prove that you are good without getting gigs? You gotta get your foot in the door somehow. Instead they decided to smash it in Toprak's face.


rockhound2017-04-07 12:34:48
edmund, in general i agree with you, but Geostorm is a special situation. it looks like that this movie had big problems and they try to save this mess now. i can imagine, bruckheimer hasn't even listen to pinars score. they hired him, because he was successful in the past with the way he made movies. and one part of his movies is a rcp score. so they hired a composer of that company. they can take no risk anymore. that's all. ofc it is also possible, that her score was really bad or that she had just no time rework her music, but i dont think that.


Edmund Meinerts2017-04-07 16:23:10
Sure, I'm not surprised that Bruckheimer would act in this way. I'm not *surprised* or anything. Just disappointed. And as always, the studio logic of "our film is in trouble, better throw out the score" just doesn't make sense to me. Obviously the problems run far deeper than that, but for the most part it's too late to fix, so they have to go for the one thing they still can change...except it won't save the film at all. :(


rockhoud2017-04-07 17:50:48
imdb says, they spend another 15 million dollar for serious re-shots. the movie had far more problems than the score. i would have loved to hear an epic pinar toprak disaster movie score, but i totally understand, why they hired balfe.


Fanomusic2017-04-08 15:09:39
Rockhound not sure if you understand the process . During test screensings , in the focus groups they ask questions about storyline , what is not working and among other subjects , music is questioned. It is not always the studio that makes the decisions ! I'm looking forward to this soundtrack .


TomP2017-04-08 18:14:38
Not sure why Geostorm is even being discussed. This happens all the time so why is it a factor ????? Anyway!!!! Saw Ghost today and it was amazing in 3D.wish there was a score release and not just songs

peter reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-06 20:14:23
okay, jokes aside, where is that album ? :( :(


MrZimmerFan2017-04-06 20:19:13
No release for the moment


Andy2017-04-07 10:03:41
Wish there was a soundtrack . Think this has replaced Lego Batman has best
Soundtrack so far his year .

HosF reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-03 10:28:16
Looks like there won't be a soundtrack release and only songs ? It is a fantastic score . Balfe's best so far I think .


Mike2017-04-03 18:49:09
@hybrid do you not have any clips yet ?


JBSO992017-04-04 17:34:59
I hope this gets released soon. I haven't watched the movie yet but I've read that the score is one of the best things of it, so I cannot waitto listen to mer Lorne Balfe (along with Clint Mansell)

antovolk reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-01 16:53:07
Apparently Lakeshore not releasing it anymore.
https://twitter.com/tracksounds/status/847887508109131776


Lejti2017-04-02 15:08:09
:/

Alex reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-01 16:48:38
Why is Clint Mansell not also listed on here? Bizarre...

Evenstar reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-01 15:29:28
Any news about a soundtrack release? It was supposed to be released yesterday, still no sign of it.


Alex2017-04-01 16:48:07
No clue. No one's really saying anything about it. I've emailed a few people at Lakeshore, so hopefully I'll be able to gather more information. I desperately want this score.

Timo reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-01 06:42:21
Watched Ghost in 3D and Lorne's score is excellent . I hope a soundtrack is released and not just the songs !!


Markmusc2017-04-01 10:45:00
Have to agree . Really great score. Batman lego was my favourite score of the year but this is close . Any news about a release for the soundtrack because I can only find the songs ?

fafasf reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-31 14:56:00
Where can I find the album? I can´t find it :(

antovolk reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-31 10:53:31
so....is this getting released at all??

antovolk reply Replies: 3 || 2017-03-29 03:43:06
just came back from film.....did they shamelessly end up getting Balfe to rescore Mansell's main thematic material in the first half of the film including the shelling/opening titles (which btw, have the GHOST IN THE SHELL title appear TWICE?)? Because it's so different from the IMAX preview music wise, I was so bummed as Mansell's main theme was just amazing there, and in the finished it's just...eh? Mansell's original theme shines through the final third very nicely though.


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-29 23:26:20
The opening was definitely Lorne, it sounded like Terminator Genisys ! lol


antovolk2017-03-30 12:21:35
it's just suggestive (between that and how he was announced so close to release) that LB was brought on at almost if not the very last minute to redo some of Mansell's early cues.

Also Clint's been eerily silent about the whole film on his Twitter and social media while Balfe has been hyping it quite a bit.


Anonymous2017-03-30 15:41:15
This^^^^

Bondo reply Replies: 4 || 2017-03-25 18:52:48
The soundtrack page on Amazon has been removed... :/


Anonymous2017-03-25 19:19:03
Noooooooo


Hybrid Soldier2017-03-25 19:32:41
A release is supposed to happen still !


David2017-03-26 00:01:45
The question is.....when??


MrZimmerFan2017-03-28 15:49:37
This is from a twitter message from Lorne

@Harry2011Movies hopefully it will

Ando reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-27 05:30:41
I want this soundtrack NOW!!!! I think lorne is the most interesting composer to come out of RCP since Powelll

Everan reply Replies: 3 || 2017-03-21 15:27:34
No idea if anyone can confirm but, the clip of the water fight was released (looked nice) and there's scoring involve but no idea if it's the film actual score or just music picked for this type of ad.

If it is, sounds pretty cool, very Mass Effect-ish with some Balfe action around.


antovolk2017-03-22 11:07:03
It's the film score. There's also a 5min clip released this morning with more of the score too.


Everan2017-03-22 16:27:40
Yeah, just saw it, and loving the score!


Andrew2017-03-27 05:13:28
Just saw the clip on Lorne's Facebook . He film looks fantastic and Lorne's score is great. I want a soundtrack release !!!!!

Mephariel reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 20:35:27
Hybrid, do you have the inside scoop of what happened here? Did Mansell's score got partially rejected?

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Samuel 2017-03-20 13:10:27
It seems they both worked on the score for a while . Not normally a fan of Mansell
BUTnow definitely interested. Any news of a soundtrack release?

Felix reply Replies: 1 || 2017-03-18 02:06:17
This is very nice! :)


Miguel2017-03-18 16:37:09
This is amazing news . It looks like a contrite with Clint Mansell?

Michael Poleschuck reply Replies: 0 || 2017-03-18 03:31:03
Interesting! Clint Mansell and Lorne Balfe co-write in first time. And nobody knows, what is this connected with?

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