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Well... Zanelli composed Tia Dalma and the percussive Island music from the past trilogy at the least... also the spaniards theme from OST which was my favorite new theme. <br><br>in a new interview Zanelli explains that he, both directors and Zimmer sat down to decide on the new music, so Zimmer is still present... search the interview in filmmusicmg.comno Eric sorry but there is nothing noticeable in the score for Barbossa. Nothing new i mean :/Does Barbossa have a theme in Dead Men Tell No Tales?Ok guys, I just saw the movie too, in "avant-premi&#232;re" in France. I must begin by saying i'm a huge fan of PotC since 10 years now, and especially thanks to the music, such original for a "hollywood movie". I remember myself earing the Singapore theme in the theatre, and thinking "ooh my god, I've never heard something like that before ! It's sooo coool !". And, I have never heard anything like this since  in others blockbusters. The scores was very uniques.<br> Since 10 years now i'm a fan of Zimmer too and i know every single note of every Pirate film, and i'm not kidding. <br>So the movie was ok, great beginning, disappointing ending but LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SCORE !!!<br><br>First of all, Zanelli is not Zimmer. It's simple : after watching any pirate movie (even OnStTi) we had a new theme in mind (The Main Theme, the Kraken Theme, Davy Jones, Hoist the Colors, One Day, Up Is Down, Mermaids etc.). Here, we don't. The music "feels pirate" but that's all ; no remarquable new great theme... sorry guys.  Well, the only really remarquable is the Salazar's theme, between The Kraken, BlackBeard and Davy Jones, but we just remember the rock guitar, not the melody ;-(<br><br>It's hard to admit, especially from a fan who expected a lot from Zanelli, but the Soundtrack is just another hollywood soundtrack, barely remarkable, without originality. The greats themes are these from the others movies, the Zimmer's ones. And very often that's almost exactly the same : "Day One" in the beginning ; "Barbossa Is Hungry" or the Beckett's Death music in "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" is steel for the climax of potc5...<br><br>So, i'm nor waiting the soundtrack anymore, maybe IF there is some suites in it, but I don't think so... Too Bad. I miss Zimmer and Verbinski ;-(Somebody on Reddit posted that the soundtrack is already on sale at Disneyland.
I loved Chappie . Why didn't he worked with the other composers from the film ?It seems to be a feature film I think but why not work with Zimmer again ?My heart definitely goes out to Zack Snyder, I hope his family will pull through. Regardless of opinion, I think he is an enormously talented director who never got quite as much credit as he deserved.<br><br>Now that Joss Whedon is taking over the finishing touches on Justice League I wonder how this will affect the sound of JXL's music. <br>Where can we find out about deluxe soundtrack releases, for instance if Dunkirk was also released in a "special edition" or whichever, where could I learn or hear about it?Salazar is just another version of Davy Jones and his crew but with no motivation. <br><br>Jerry Bruckheimer -<br><br>Before OST:<br>"Blackbeard is probably the evilest character we've ever had"<br>"It harkens back more the first one."<br>"The beginning of a whole new adventure... a whole new fresh look to the pirates movies"<br>"We've got these two beautiful new characters"<br><br>Before DMTNT<br>"I think Salazar is the head of the family tree of the previous villains. He is the most frightening weíve ever had because heís merciless."<br>"What's fresh about this is the fact we're introducing these new characters"<br>"It's so fresh, so different, so scary"<br><br>
Well for me sadly it is just a reminder of how great the original trilogy was. The best things in this movie are the returning characters, and the returning love theme from At World's End. Aside from that, it's just like the 4th movie: another forgettable round in the same old attraction. Except this time there are some naval battles, so at least it looks like a pirates movie, which makes it just a little better than the 4th one. But still far, far below the first 3 movies.Just saw the film. Was great by the way, much much beter than On Stranger Tides. Now on the score: I'm not blow away by it (Not all the new theme's are great) BUT... First the new theme for Carina and the stars is by far the best new thing in the pirates soundtrack universe. It's beautiful, something new and adventurous. The new adventure theme is actually a new variation on He's a Pirate or Jack's theme (can't really tell, need to here it again.) which has been used a lot in previous films during the action sequences. First time i heard it, it thought it was a little bit simple and unoriginal but hearing it for a multiple times in the film I really started to like it! It's good they made something new to use during the action sequences instead of the overused he's a pirate or jack's theme, It gives the movie it's own voice.<br><br>Salazar's theme was for me the most dissapointing, it sounded too much like Davy Jones and his crew, also I don't even remember it. Missed opportunity over here. But what really stood out for me are the old themes. Dear lord I got goosebumps at the end when One Day (Will & Elizabeth's theme from Pirates 3) is used, it's emotional and epic. Also the beginning of the movie has a some tragic variations of Will and Elizaberh theme from Pirates 3. Hopefully this will be on the soundtrack! Also somethimes the Marry Me suite is used shortly for Henry during action moments. <br><br>It's amazing to see that these themes, made 10 years ago, still have there effect as they are used in a new movie (it also helpes ofcourse that storylines from At World's End finally pay off in this film) and they are used in a proper way, they always fit the scene in this movie (not like in On Stranger Tides we're theme's are used in scenes that didn't have a connection to it at all). I really hope the score album will make a good represention of this films complete soundtrack, waiting another multiple years for a complete score? (the opening track in this film for exemple, or that short little string piece when Carina appolizes to Henry) I don't think I can do that. Looking forward to friday to hear what they will give us.Amazon has it listed for this Friday, May 26th.well... yeah. that's the purpose of film music... complement the images, not just being there... I had read that review, but only that critic I've seen trash the music as well...<br><br>But don't go to far.. that's exactly the type of criticism is being thrown at Spielberg/Williams lately.. and if you don't believe me, just search for WarHorse reviews.<br><br>That folkes, are how 80s and 90s film music used to work.Genius, to be fair, the score for At World's End got some, not a lot, but some nasty reviews as well, and for similar "reasons" as well: too loud, too bombastic, saying more than what's happening on the screen, etc. I think we just need to listen to the score and watch the movie to see for ourselves... because if anyone is like me, I love all the scores and movies except for On Stanger Tides... regardless of the poor reviews. I've been wrong before though lol
"Geoff Zanelliís score is one of the most annoying of recent memory, but maybe itís not the composerís fault. For slow, dull action scenes he scores loud, propulsive music to make the audience think itís seeing something that isnít there. We get the horns of profundity and the strings of sincerity, not to mention the soaring choruses that tell us that grand things are really happening now, oh boy ó and that these people are really feeling something ó and arenít we privileged to be swept away on this epic of joy and adventure? . . . And none of it is on the screen."<br><br>...<br><br>" In the midst of all the galloping, carousing and general crazy hysteria of the movie, the score by Geoff Zanelli acts as a metaphor for the movie itself, working so hard to inspire feeling, but sounding like clanging desperation instead."<br><br>Score getting hammered as well. =<br><br><br>Anyone know when the soundtrack will be released? I'd assume the day of the film's release, May 26, but usually the series' soundtracks have been released earlier. I haven't seen anything for the soundtrack on iTunes, which is a bit concerning.Any news what Oats is ??? And is Zimmer doing it alsoLoving it - I enjoy every momentIt amaze me how volatile we as an audience are.<br>First we love an actor for being good, new, and fresh. Then by that, that actor keeps doing what we love him for... then we get bored and then we hate him and doom him for being what he "has become"...<br><br>suddenly he is a "bad" actor, just for keeping doing what made him a good actor in the first place.<br><br>Yes, we are also part of why hollywood is what it is now. We all are part of the same game of shallowness.
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeMax ArujSteffen Thum
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Genius (EP) (TV Series)
Label: Milan Records
Length: 17'43
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  1. Genius - Hans Zimmer (0:51)
  2. Proving The Theory (1:40)
  3. Forbidden Love (3:05)
  4. Nobel Prize (1:30)
  5. Everything Is Connected (1:09)
  6. Natural Order (1:14)
  7. The Talk Of The Town (1:44)
  8. Time And Space (1:37)
  9. Partita 1 "Double", for Solo Violin BWV 1002 - Johann Sebastian Bach (1:01)
  10. Adagio In E Major (for Violin & Orchestra) K.261 - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1:23)
  11. Wiegenlied (Lullaby) K.350 - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1:01)
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Peters reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-23 19:42:18
Any news what Oats is ??? And is Zimmer doing it also


Gustavo2017-05-24 02:06:03
It seems to be a feature film I think but why not work with Zimmer again ?


Andreas2017-05-24 02:16:38
I loved Chappie . Why didn't he worked with the other composers from the film ?

JJ reply Replies: 3 || 2017-05-22 09:19:27
Lorne just announced something on Facebook. Any idea of what it could be?


Michael772017-05-22 13:26:57
It looks like Neill Bloomkamps new project ? Excellent news I think



Deateix2017-05-23 14:22:34
Wonder why he isn't working with the team from the music team from
Chappie ???


Michale2017-05-23 15:53:35
Anything with bloomcamp will be amazing and Lorne's music

... reply Replies: 7 || 2017-05-20 10:07:42
Lorne is going to score CARS 3! :O :O


Iamtommie2017-05-20 10:26:07
I don't know where you got that from but on June 6 a score by Randy Newman is released.


...2017-05-20 12:03:15
Well IMDb says, Randy is listed just as "original score composed by" and then there is Music by Lorne...


Macejko2017-05-20 14:00:24
That makes precisely zero sense.


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-20 14:38:50
Wrong info !


mpolonest123 2017-05-20 14:46:14
Just imagine a Cars film that sounded like Rush!


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-21 21:46:11
LOL, I know Lorne is everywhere but this would be just ridiculous :p


Farrier2017-05-22 02:55:31
Pixar going Remote Control for deal? Really? LOL.

Raife reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-21 14:06:40
Goto watch the series this weekend and it's really great and Balfe's score is some of the best and interesting TV music in a long time. Beautiful and emotional

MB reply Replies: 9 || 2017-05-07 17:34:33
Guys, whats wrong with you? "Time and space" is an usual track, nothing special or extraordinary. "masterpiece" ??? WTF? It seems to me like you never hear the any music. NEVER. But in general score is good. 4 of 5 IMHO. Don't overestimate that music )))


AndrewL2017-05-07 17:56:22
Seems like MB's taste in music , is as bad as his English ! Excellent score , I think , and looking forward to the full album release .


Ando2017-05-07 17:56:51
Agree! Great score .


Mike2017-05-07 18:13:56
The music is an interesting blend of electronic and orchestra . A bit Frost Nixon?


MB2017-05-07 18:17:56
That score is very good, but track Time and space is nothing special. Thats all. (You don't know anything about my taste in music and me)).


Edmund Meinerts2017-05-07 19:38:33
No need to sling insults when MB is just being reasonable (you're going to jump down his throat for giving it a 4 out of 5?). I too think the lavish praise being slung at this one is pretty overblown, especially considering all we've heard of it so far is a small highlights reel.


MB2017-05-07 20:34:29
Thanks, Edmund) I love this site, but sometimes people in there are very assault.


Everan2017-05-08 03:47:38
If you think people can get agressive here, you haven't gone to Film Music Reporter.
Yeah, the track's fine, sounds nice, nothing too exciting but nice. If people love it, cool but if someone else doesn't, then cool too.


Michael 2017-05-08 07:36:53
Forbidden Love is the best track I think and it's generally a great soundtrack so far. Very different sounding and not RCP usual .


Andreas2017-05-13 18:18:54
Another new clip of the soundtrack got release today. The music gets better
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5rQD1TW4csI

38AndrewMusic reply Replies: 2 || 2017-05-05 11:13:47
Time and Space is a masterpiece haven't seen the show yet though but digging the mixture of synths and the orchestra


michaelfilm792017-05-07 11:20:45
Agreed it's a great soundtrack . Interesting idea releasing the EP. Hybrid - do you know when the album is released and also what else he is working on ?


Hybrid Soldier2017-05-07 12:07:34
The score will come out when Lorne will be done. He's still scoring the show ! A couple of episodes left for him to score.

He's also starting working on Season 2 of The Crown with RGW, on a real "composer" role this time, on Season 1 he just helped out.

Andreas76 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-05-04 11:53:19
Lorne's music for this show is amazing . Loving the electronic and orchestra playing together

Jack Afrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-04-28 03:39:14
Lorne Makes A Good Score And The Music Is very beautiful Also With Main Theme By Hans Zimmer.


PetersMusic2017-04-28 09:48:17
It really is great and hints of Frost Nixon . Apparently there will be a proper score release at the end of the series and this is just an EP


Peter2017-04-28 22:25:33
Just bought the score and it's really good lorne has outdone himself again.and i thought was the best score score of the year !!! Wrong - genius is for sur


musicfanAP2017-04-29 05:17:01
really loved this music and Time and Space is soooooo good. I have it on loop

Ahmad reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-26 20:17:08
That synth in the main theme! I didn't expect that. It's really good.


Andrew762017-04-28 02:44:02
Another clip was released and it's pretty good . Haven't seen the show yet but the score so far is sounding different and cool

BrianP reply Replies: 1 || 2017-04-26 07:13:54
First episode was really good . Lorne's score is amazing and totally different . Looking forward to this score release .


Anonymous2017-04-26 12:09:25
Beautiful music

... reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-24 22:18:05
I have a question and I would love if somebody can answer it - What such an assistant of composer is doing? Is he just making coffee or actually making music? I am really curious, I know that Lorne was assistant too!


Michael2017-04-25 00:03:49
I asked this before to lorne on Facebook . He said the roles can mean different things . Some composers assistants help with running the office . Some deal with making sure the music works to the latest cut of film . Some arrange
And orchestrate also . Means varied tasks .


...2017-04-25 13:32:44
I see, thank you for answer!

MarkO reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-25 05:44:15
Sounds excellent . Balfe has really found a unique voice now . I have listened to the YouTube link for the album constantly

peter reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-23 19:10:09
Will be there a CD release?

Moi Moche et Cristine Boutin reply Replies: 0 || 2017-04-23 15:40:43
Sounds like a Lex Luthor Suite, very nice :D

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-22 23:18:32
Extracts added. This release is just a short EP, the score is not even completed yet, so a proper release will happen when the series is done ! :)


MonoMusic2017-04-23 06:11:56
Excellent. Always great when they work together .


Manulder2017-04-23 10:30:22
Forbidden Love is Great...

... reply Replies: 2 || 2017-04-22 17:33:03
Hybrid, do you know if this game music is by Hans and Lorne?
https://soundcloud.com/tencent-gameaudio/sets/honor-of-kings -gang-best-original-soundtrack-album

https://soundcloud.com/tencent-gameaudio/sets/ngame-music

It says it is by Hans and Lorne, but confirmation would be great!


Hybrid Soldier2017-04-22 17:41:41
Yes it is !


Ds2017-04-22 22:45:29
What is this?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 4 || 2017-04-22 06:21:11
Coming soon !


peter2017-04-22 09:26:51
Finally! I hope they wonīt cancell it :D


Hale2017-04-22 12:06:12
The title of the main theme really fits with the composer :)


Hale2017-04-22 12:06:13
The title of the main theme really fits with the composer :)


Dimitris Krommidas2017-04-22 20:18:07
Great!

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