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Eh, Shore is a smart composer. He could make it work. I guess whether that's what studios think audiences want is another question entirely...Is it me or are none of the soundtracks on the website showing the sample tracks that you could listen to anymore?Have you heard that Henry Jackman will composing his music for the upcoming 2019 picture called Pokemon: Detective Pikachu?  I wonder what the film soundtrack would sound like.  Hmm...I think that Howard´s style of music doesn´t really fit to the post apocalyptic genreFor a Peter Jackson production I was expecting Howard Shore.
I listened to the score and is one of the most entertaining scores of this year. It's great to see the main theme return but there are a lot of new elements to enjoy and discover here. There were parts that kind of reminded me of Incredibles 2, like the begining of Shank. And tracks like Vanellope's March or Big Strong Man In Need of Rescue are just pure fun.<br><br>Really great score!I was this tracklist for a 3rd cd floating around, is this legit ?<br><br><br>Disc 1  <br>1.  Planet Earth II Suite  <br>2.  The Sloth<br>3.  Home To Dragons<br>4.  Albatross Dance<br>5.  Racer Snakes vs Iguanas<br>6.  Chinstrap Penguins<br>7.  Singing Indri<br>8.  Competing Hummingbirds<br>9.  Life In The Canopy<br>10. Jungle Weather<br>11. Night Crawlers<br>12. World of Bioluminescence<br>13. Wilson's Bird-of-Paradise<br>14. Something Worth Protecting<br>15. Life Without Water<br>16. Monsoon Deserts/Canyonlands<br>17. Lions vs Giraffe<br>18. The Butcher Bird<br>19. Wild Horses<br>20. Desert Nightlife/Golden Mole<br>21. Long-Eared Bat vs Scorpion<br>22. Early Morning Fog<br><br>Disc 2 <br>1.  Roof Of The World<br>2.  Peaks of North America<br>3.  The Ibex<br>4.  The Himalayas<br>5.  Flight Over Alps<br>6.  Ice Skating Flamingos<br>7.  Dancing Bears<br>8.  Tenacious Bobcat<br>9.  Garden of Ice<br>10. Snow Leopards<br>11. Savage Beauty<br>12. Nomadic Life<br>13. Hunting Buffalo Herds<br>14. The Okavango<br>15. Carmine Bee Eaters<br>16. Industrious Insects<br>17. The Great Migration<br>18. The Unnatural Habitat<br>19. Langurs of Jodhpur<br>20. Temple Gardens<br>21. Market Thieves<br>22. Illuminated<br>23. City Skylines<br>24. Starlings<br>25. Toronto Raccoons<br>26. We Are The Designers<br>27. Epilogue<br><br>Disc 3<br>1. Harvest Mouse<br>2. Jumping Widowbirds<br>3. The Red Fox<br>4. Cacti<br>5. Harris Hawks<br>6. Draco Lizard<br>7. Glass Frog vs Wasp<br>8. Galapagos<br>9.  Zavodovski Island<br>10. The Great Bower Bird  <br>11. Wels Catfish    <br>12. Frozen NightAbout his studio at RCP, is it rental or he owns the stuff? What happens to the gear when he is not around?That is probably the fairest thing anyone on this website will say about Clemmensen. :P@Anonymous<br><br>Christian Clemmensen believes that Hans Zimmer found his definitive voice back in the 1990s with scores such as Driving Miss Daisy, Rain Man, Crimson Tide, and Lion King. However, he has in reviews of later scores compared Zimmer's overly obvious chord progressions and masculinity with what the "rock ballad" did to rock-n'roll music of the '70s. To him, it's overly powerful, unsubtle, and aggressive music that appeals to the gut more than the heart or the mind. Some of Zimmer's most popular scores such as Gladiator, Pirates, and The Dark Knight he has given middling reviews for because the general sound is derivative from his earlier works, not colorful, and not creative. He also accuses Zimmer of starting a trend with overly-recycled, bombastic, masculine action music that's big on density and power and low on subtlety and personality. <br><br>I can definitely see where he's coming from, one cannot deny the similarities between Crimson Tide, Lion King, Gladiator, Pirates, Dark Knight and so forth. One also cannot deny that scores such as Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 qualify more as sound design than actual symphonic music (mostly). However, if he had his way, every film score would be shamelessly optimistic and flighty, all major chords (and occasionally alternating off-key), with prominent woodwinds and metallic percussion. He definitely knows what he's talking about, but he has an ideal image for film music in mind, and that very much comes through in his Zimmer reviews, some of which I think deserve much more credit than he offered (Pirates 3, Da Vinci Code, and Gladiator come to mind).
a more orchestral fury roadTom is gonna score Mortal Engines<br>What kind of sound do you expect?He has a studio at RCP but mostly work from his own home studio. His business is "Sacred Tiger Music."<br>Does Henry actually work for HZ at RCP or does he have his own film score company now like HGW?Why filmtracks always behave very Aggressive about hans zimmer and always trys to make his scores worthless ??!! Its odd for me
Aw Hell...<br><br>I guess it never did freeze over.Sorry, I should've been more specific. This is a comment I had originally posted on the Filmtracks forum, NOT from a Christian Clemmensen review. My bad.Referring to the previous comment (how did it not reply to the the previous message?)That's not the actual review. The length is a pretty big giveaway. Also, I'm fairly certain he's still given some RCP efforts some good scores.WOW....color me impressed at Filmtracks. I thought that site was anti-Zimmer in all aspects far, wide, near and dear.
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Gotham Rogue reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-08 07:14:10
Does anyone think if a (more) complete score had been created for FYC purposes that Dunkirk would have had a better chance of winning best score at the Golden Globes? Because purely based on album experience, Shape of Water is obviously a better listen. That being said, a complete score of Dunkirk would have made a huge difference; even the first 10-15 minutes of score would have been quite a good listen compared to the first 10-15 minutes of the official soundtrack release.


Gotham Rogue2018-01-08 07:15:51
And I'm sure voters watch the film as well when deciding on best score, but they must use the included CD to some extent or it wouldn't be given in voting packets.


mpolonest123 2018-01-08 17:22:49
You are absolutely right. The album edit for Dunkirk is such a disappointment, especially considering it is a score that not only is designed to compliment its film but work as one long musical piece. You take one section out (as Nolan said regarding the editing in film) you ruin the whole. Honestly I wish they wouldn’t have even put out an album if they weren’t going to use the whole score.

As for the GG win, I’m happy Shape of Water got it. It’s a very strong score, nothing groundbreaking but definitely better than say, The Last Jedi.

nvictor reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-07 01:33:19
just listened to Hans podcast about Dunkirk. it confirmed a few things i suspected.

Hans started afresh __but__ he took with him everything he has gathered on his score making journey. writer Stephen King said one should build a toolbox. Hans has a big one.

you guys said Interstellar many times. yes it is. DK? MoS? BvS? you are right. you forgot all that ambient sound from the Langdon series and Inception. it's all in the technique. the little things that work.

Dunkirk presented many of that in a concise form. that's why i love this score so much.

comments like the one below will come up often. but all i can wish is more scores like this. i absolutely can't get enough of it.

i don't blame you guys... really. onwards and upwards like Junkie said ; )


Max Potcats2018-01-07 13:55:27
What is the podcast name please?

Tom reply Replies: 6 || 2017-10-03 16:37:33
I hate to be a party pooper here, but IMHO Dunkirk is a horrible soundtrack. Just a couple of sustained dissonant chords played over and over and over, ad nauseum. I mean come on Hans, can't you write beautiful and epic melodies anymore? This movie screamed for an epic theme that never materialized.

Now I know I am about to be attacked by all the die-hard Zimmer drones here but I'm just voicing my opinion. I long for the days when you could always count on Hans to deliver goose bump inducing epic memorable themes.


Waymann2017-10-03 16:57:24
I will not attack you but I don't agree that this film screamed for an epic main theme. Dunkirk is an expensive indiefilm, not Hacksaw Ridge or Saving Private Ryan. I think it was pretty clear from the beginning that this would be a more atmospheric score. Be prepared for Blade Runner 2049 this friday. It will be just the same.


Ahmad2017-10-03 16:58:58
"I mean come on Hans, can't you write beautiful and epic melodies anymore? This movie screamed for an epic theme that never materialized."

I hate to be the first one to break this down for you...

but maybe, just maybe, the guy who is in charge doesn't want that? If Nolan wanted an epic melodic theme, Zimmer would've written one. What part of collaboration you people don't understand?
It's not Zimmer's film it's Nolan's, he liked the score PERIOD.
You don't like it? that's okay, but it's perfect as it is and it served the film well. #TrollHarder


Ahmad2017-10-03 17:06:51
Wow that last line came off rude.
There are many ways and approaches to score a film and it makes me sad that some people want the same thing over and over again.

Although I disagree with you, I respect your opinion @Tom


Ds2017-10-03 17:40:08
Hans himself said that this score was more like "music by Christopher Nolan".

Christopher Nolan himself said this score had to be frustrating for Zimmer because his hands were tied for the whole process.


Der-Profl2017-10-03 21:40:27
What I like about humans is, that everyone has a different taste of music. It would be so boring if everyone would like the same. So, you don't like it, Tom, it's okay and I'm fine with that, and I like the score pretty damn much, cause it represents for me the pure sound of suspense, what the film also is, pure suspense. The score suits the film so well, that it is a great score. For me, of course!


Michael Conway Baker2018-01-06 23:52:29
I absolutely agree, Tom. I feel the score ruined the film.

Sami_Fares reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-06 22:08:44
Hello Zimmer lover just want to ask what's the next project of him if anyone know something please enlighten us.

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-30 09:24:38
Well yesterday I watched Batman vs superman and I really (100%)heard a lot of cues similar to Dunkirk. So I believe Hans did again and just copied from his previous work...disappointed!
this cues didn't exist in the soundtrack so you don't believe me watch the movie again.


Hybrid Soldier2017-12-30 21:05:40
Mmmmh... Nope.


Everan2018-01-05 23:28:12
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.


Kingfannypack2018-01-06 05:56:10
Even if he did “copy” from his past work, it’s inevitable. When you score as many films as Hans has, repeating yourself just happens voluntarily or involuntarily. John Williams does it all the time, but never gets criticized for it- he shouldn’t anyways.

Dunkirk reply Replies: 5 || 2018-01-05 10:16:48
In a Deadline interview, Zimmer reveals (at 14:45) that they had made an entirely different, orchestral score for Dunkirk and had to scrap it because it didn't pair well with the movie. Too bad it wasn't released.


Hybrid Soldier2018-01-05 10:58:06
Well it's part of the process.

Hans can write 2 or 3 scores for certain movies. Matchstick Men was written 3 times, so was I'll Do Anything... Rango too...


Dunkirk2018-01-05 13:05:21
crazy...
is there a phisycal fyc cd out there? maybe with other cues from the movie? @Hybrid


Dunkrik2018-01-05 13:05:53
edit: physical


badbu2018-01-05 13:10:19
Yes! But the standard Score!


CalendarMan2018-01-05 19:50:20
interesting to hear Zimmers oppinion about this score in that interview. "it's a strange hybrid of ... things!". it pretty sums it up.

pipin reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-29 11:37:56
the fyc score is on ebay


Medigo2017-12-29 11:49:05
the only images I see include the regular soundtrack release


badbu2017-12-29 15:37:48
yes, but the standard score...


Der-Profl2017-12-30 22:00:00
@pipin: Can you send a link? Or isn't it allowed here?

dunki reply Replies: 1 || 2017-12-22 17:26:10
The Shape Of The Water FYC on the website is the CD, but the ones being sold on Ebay are the complete score. So maybe there's one from Dunkirk as well.


ffaa2017-12-23 15:31:39
send the link

Frank reply Replies: 18 || 2017-12-19 04:50:23
So the Academy posted 141 scores eligible for nomination and Dunkirk is in! I was so worried about the use of Nimrod might disqualify it.


JBSO992017-12-19 09:13:30
So the nomination is almost assured ( and I would say that even the winning, but that depends on the other nominations)


Cynist2017-12-19 16:42:19
if he didn't win for interstellar he's certainly not gonna win for Dunkirk


Max Potcats2017-12-19 19:30:34
the academy desn't deserve Hans


JBSO992017-12-19 21:28:21
@Cynist Yeah, I think Interstellar was a better score for winning an award. I think this year might go for Master Williams (Star Wars and The Post) but there might be some surprises.

From the RCP family, I wish benjamin Wallfisch got at least nominated. He has had a really great year (A Cure For Wellness, It, Blade Runner, and well, collaborating in Dunkirk), and he deserves some recognition.


Macejko2017-12-19 21:54:11
Yeah, sure, let's jerk Williams' old cock some more. God forbid he didn't get nominated every time he squeezes a tune through one buttcheek.


Brian72017-12-19 22:22:33
Why isn’t Balfe and Ben mentioned as co writers for the awards?


Ds2017-12-19 22:41:48
From what I remember, Interstellar was kind of snubbed for the major awards nominations (best picture, director, actors, etc.), and was only nominated in the technical categories and the score. No surprise it didn't win.

Dunkirk on the other hand has more chances to get nominated in the top categories, thereby increasing its chance to win best score.

But anyway I don't think Hans will win. There are enough Academy members who love him to secure a nomination, but not enough for a win.


Ahmad2017-12-19 23:09:54
Interstellar was perfection, but you people are ignoring how incredible Dunkirk's score is. It's not just background music, it's part of the movie. Hans and the music department did a wonderful job.

Anyway, the academy is inconsistent. There are many scores that had incredible melodies which some might call "real music" and were snubbed because the movies themselves were snubbed. This time, it seems like Dunkirk will release more recognition (best picture, best director and many technical awards probably) so I say it definitely has a chance at winning.


james (now james callahan)2017-12-20 02:38:51
The victory for Dunkirk is given as an assured thing. Good or bad, this happens several times, either to guarantee the most beloved film of the year the largest possible number of Oscars or because of social awareness policies. Tan Dun's victory in 2000 came mainly because of the latter. His score is wonderful, but Gladiator had the advantage of having been nominated for many more categories.

But I think that Matt Reeves will be remembered. Or not. The man did a great job with Apes. However he can be ignored this year to be remembered in the future. Nolan was forgotten by The Dark Knight simply because this movie was a blockbuster. Reeves will be no different. but it is sad the lack of recognition.


james (now james callahan)2017-12-20 02:49:49
About Williams, The Post has not yet been released, but I find hard he to win for any of them. He did a great job with TLJ, even not innovating with themes.But this year is not his. Maybe an honorary award in the future. As one that Morricone received years ago.

About Balfe and Wallfisch, they were credited as additional composers along with Andrew K, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Paige and Satnam R. That's the problem of the Academy with HZ.


isildur2017-12-20 10:47:35
Yeah. If Hans actually cared about getting an Oscar, just like other composers he would've put only his name on all his scores. Gladiator was disqualified just because Hans refused to drop Lisa's name event though she didn't compose any of the score. He values and acknowledges the contribution of all those who even remotely helped him on his scores so much and still gets the hatred for having so-called "Ghost Writers".

If it was Hans who scored the recent "Justice League" movie and had Geoff Zanelli, Pinar Topak as an additional composers everybody would've said Hans did very little but as it was someone else nobody mentions it even once. Meh.


James (now calahan)2017-12-20 11:12:01
Lisa wrote all her vocal contributions in Gladiator. Most of them along with Badelt. Hans alone is responsible for 80% of the album perhaps. "Roma is Light", for example, is Gerrard and Badelt.
People tend to relativize when other composers use additional composers. Zanelli and Toprak would appear in the eyes of these people as main composers if Zimmer signed the album.

I think the main problem is that the Hans composition process varies widely and is incomprehensible. Sometimes he makes a suite and lets several teams take care of certain parts of the score (at worlds end, angels and demons), other times he does the same and leaves it in the hands of a single composer (inception, the dark knight rises),others that he co-signs, but that clearly has almost no material truly composed by him (Boss Baby, The Little Prince) and which he works with several people, but still make up more than 50% of the song (Dunkirk, Gladiator). Apart from the fact that he needs conscious orchestrators who need to correct mistakes and improve the presentation of the music so that it can be played by real instruments.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-20 13:01:26
Macejko, do you have to be a dick about everything?


isildur (Original)2017-12-20 14:48:46
Hey! That isn't me. Get your own name dude.


Macejko2017-12-20 16:03:29
No, but I do enjoy it, Edmund.


Jessica2017-12-20 16:05:22
@ Edmund: why is he a dick? just because he's talking about JWs ol' dick? He's right, so don't be a pussy.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-21 17:27:37
I AM a pussy. Everyone knows.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-22 10:18:51
^ not me, obviously.

Yes, he has a point, Williams does get nominated for everything, deserved or not (as does Thomas Newman and increasingly Alexandre Desplat), but there are less...distasteful ways to put things.

Ahmad reply Replies: 19 || 2017-12-11 15:09:10
The score is nominated for a Golden Globe!
Other nominations: Best Picture and Best Director.


badbu2017-12-11 15:21:04
YEES!!! And Best Director :-)


nvictor2017-12-11 20:27:55
hope it wins the golden globe nomination as well.


Kosto82017-12-11 21:05:39
Congratulations to Hans, Ben and Lorne.excellent music


FaresTdkr2017-12-13 20:11:49
If this nominated for golden globe or even Oscar and win the title I'll kill my self.

This score is nothing compared to interstellar or even to POTC 3.


Macejko2017-12-13 20:14:58
If only every annoying film music fan would be so willing to take his own life as this one...


Hybrid Soldier2017-12-13 23:15:02
Now I have ONE true reason to want this score to win !

PEACE ! lol


Bob2017-12-14 00:22:57
wow man, hybrid. this isn't right from you. actually really embarrasing and an absolute no-go from a staff/member of this site to write such a comment. even if it's a joke, this is a shame and sad.


JamesT2017-12-14 05:11:39
Hybrid, yes!


badbu2017-12-14 07:40:17
haha hybrid :D made my day


Ds2017-12-14 08:23:31
An award is an award, Hans' 2nd Oscar is long overdue so I'd be glad to see him win. But it would be weird to see him win for THAT score, after all the greatnesses of the past 20 years. Same thing with Morricone who won his only Oscar for his very light and insignificant work on Hateful Eight. Good for the man, good for the fans, but doesn't really make sense. But have Oscars ever made sense? :-p


Ahmad2017-12-14 08:54:40
I think most of us agree that he should've won for Interstellar but I think Dunkirk deserves it too. The work Hans and the music department did on this movie is just incredible. Must've been a lot of hard work.


Brent2017-12-14 10:13:49
This score... so many mixed emotions. Does it work for the film? Heck yeah. Does it improve the film? So much so. Did Hans do what he set out to do? Totally. Is it an award winning masterpiece? Um, not so fast.

Dunkirk, while super effective within the context of the film (I wouldn’t change a thing about it), I must admit, it doesn’t have nearly the same effect as a stand-alone listen. It’s literally the same textures and notes over and over again, just slightly rising and falling in pitch and tempo. Does that make it “award” worthy? I’m not sure. If based solely on the film, you betcha. If based purely on the music itself, I don’t think so. That’s where Interstellar succeeds so far and away over Dunkirk. As a pure listening experience, Interstellar is interesting, multi-layered and emotional. Whereas Dunkirk is just flat, void of any sort of feeling or “actual” music (again, works IN the film). It’s glorified sound FX (save for the end, which, no doubt, is in large part to Ben).

Hmm... I’ve never had a score tear me apart more than this one. I both love it and hate it. Maybe it did it’s job... lol.

Excuse me while I go listen to No Time for Caution yet again.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-14 11:00:09
Well...it's a film score. It has no obligation to provide a pleasant or enjoyable listening experience, and for an award like this that doesn't really come into consideration. So if it works in the film, it did its job and that's all that matters.

For me personally, as someone who cares about music first and films second, a score like Dunkirk has little value. A few years ago I probably would have been pretty mad about this score winning awards and acclaim (you should have seen how salty I got when The Social Network beat out HTTYD), but these days... *shrug*. I know what I like, Dunkirk isn't it, and that's fine. It wasn't written for me. Do I wish Hans still wrote the kind of music I like? Of course. But he gets to make his own choices as an artist, just as I get to choose what to listen to as a fan.


Gringo19762017-12-14 12:00:06
hans should win the oscar for best sound effects and not for the best music/score. just as a statement.


Olive2017-12-14 13:34:58
@ds the same for desplat's victory with Budapest Hotel.


Hybrid Soldier2017-12-14 21:03:24
@Bob

Thank you for the enlightment, I will consider opening my wrists for misconduct in the next few days, thank you very much... :o



Ok seriously though, you guys should know that if there's one guy that could not care less about awards... it's Hans... :)


Ben2017-12-16 11:10:12
quote: "This score is nothing compared to interstellar or even to POTC 3."

How do you know or how do you judge? By musical complexity, number of themes, etc.? I think the Dunkirk score perfectly serves the movie - which is what it's supposed to do.

Hans' last and only Oscar-wining score was Lion King, and that one wasn't so remarkable either - on its own. So it would kind of make sense for a score like Dunkirk to get him the award.

After all, when it comes to the academy, I don't think they look at a score in isolation - like we do as Zimmer fans - but rather how well it serves the film. If they love a film and let it win best picture and other categories, it's very likely they'll also give it "best original score".


FaresTdkr2017-12-16 11:28:54
In the last 7 years or so the only Oscar that I think was deserved is Gravity by Steven price. By the way hybrid it was a tough comment for me. Thanks to all people here who think it was.
I totally agree that the music fit the movie perfectly Hans always did great job in this but as a standalone music for me and again (for me) the docking in interstellar do all the job on Dunkirk ( I mean suspense) so for me all Dunkirk soundtrack = docking in interstellar.


James2017-12-16 14:57:37
@Ben: "Hans' last and only Oscar-wining score was Lion King, and that one wasn't so remarkable either."

The original presentation, of 1994, is not very good to confess. They left out the score to emphasize the songs. However the latest launches "expanded score" and "Legacy Collection" (in my opinion) are among the best as Gladiator, the last Samurai,Prince of Egypt, House of Spirits, Rain Man,
Backdraft, regarding Henry,Beyond Ragoon, the Rock, King Arthur, Interstellar, Rush, At worlds End and the Dark Knight (The Collector's version). I like many themes by Hans, but when I come to head the organization factor of the albums most satisfactory these are some of the few that comes to mind.

George reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-12 19:17:52
From the bonus features, Turning Up the Tension is indeed about Hans' score. Very interesting, definitely watch it if you can!


AndrewP2017-12-13 00:52:59
Strange Balfe is not mentioned ?


RR2017-12-13 02:49:05
hope we get the complete score soon..It's just adding salt to the wound watching this features


badbu2017-12-13 07:36:20
And Hans say nothing about the score :D The Complete Score...i don't think so...the FYC Score is the standard Score...maybe in 2-3 years...fml

badbu reply Replies: 1 || 2017-12-11 09:52:13
is there any making of out there? (making the score)


babdu2017-12-11 15:38:06
okay there is a making of out there :-)
(youtube making of dunkirk)

isildur reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-06 06:25:57
So, as the rumors of Nolan directing the next Bond movie haven't died down yet, do you think we'll finally get a Hans' Bond score. I really hope we do. It would be so kick ass.

Mephariel reply Replies: 3 || 2017-11-23 18:09:18
Should have gotten one for Interstellar, not this.


nvictor2017-11-30 14:41:51
should have got a nomination for this, not interstellar.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-03 15:35:18
Should definitely have gotten one for Interstellar, not this.


Ian2017-12-04 08:39:45
I've never found Interstellar compelling as a whole (although it has a couple of very strong cues), but it is indeed drastically superior to Dunkirk.

Anton reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-02 16:47:22
https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/geniussoundtrack

What a great gift from Maestro Zimmer for a charity

Miguel reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-02 03:56:05
Here is a great auction on for a signed soundtrack by Zimmer lorne and Ron Howard and it’s personalised

Mephariel reply Replies: 7 || 2017-11-28 18:15:45
2018 Grammy Nominations:

Arrival — Jóhann Jóhannsson, composer
Dunkirk — Hans Zimmer, composer
Game Of Thrones: Season 7 — Ramin Djawadi, composer
Hidden Figures — Benjamin Wallfisch, Pharrell Williams & Hans Zimmer, composers
La La Land — Justin Hurwitz, composer

Zimmer nominated twice but this is a tough field with La La Land and Arrival.


Olive2017-11-28 18:40:19
La La Land, Arrival and Hidden Figures are not recommendations from last year?


Dom2017-11-28 18:40:47
Why are the Grammys so weird? Hidden Figures, La La Land and Arrival are 2016 film and Dunkirk is a 2017 film. It opened 7 months later.


Olive2017-11-28 19:05:42
And still mixes television series with films


Olive2017-11-28 19:06:59
La La Land will win, anyway.


Ian2017-11-29 02:57:01
^ Yeah, although I can appreciate that folks have different tastes, I really struggle to see how one could reasonably argue for anything else winning.


Edmund Meinerts2017-11-29 10:14:44
I'd argue against it because taken on its own, the actual score for La-La Land is nothing special. It's only going to win because it's carried by the songs.


nvictor2017-11-30 14:41:01
nomination acquired. now we just need to win right? ; )

badbu reply Replies: 5 || 2017-11-22 12:26:59
They're starting to send screeners. Finger crossed for the FYC :D


nvictor2017-11-22 21:02:15
this one is my pick for the oscar as well. hope it wins : )


badbu2017-11-23 08:09:53
jaa. but i think he will never get his second oscar...:-(


Edmund Meinerts2017-11-23 12:02:06
If he does I hope it's not for Dunkirk.


Max Potcats2017-11-23 13:06:01
An Oscar (or at lease a nomination) for Dunkirk or Blade Runner ; it would be great from the academy to reward this kind of score. In the last decade, only Gravity had also this kind of """""sound desing""""""" score.


Olive2017-11-23 15:50:00
Maybe a honorary in the future.

nvictor reply Replies: 2 || 2017-11-11 02:44:41
i listened to Blade Runner. for that, i want to take a minute to say my deepest admiration for Ben Wallfisch for his collaboration with Hans Zimmer (Ben is truly amazing!).

i came back to this soundtrack after Blade because i needed to understand. and after that, i went back to Batman v Superman, Inferno, and Rush.

now, i understand. i think understand it all. where the music is going, in my own uneducated opinion. and i am very happy to live in this day and age with such great composers.

i wish i can meet you all one day and tell you in person all the things i have found and discovered that make me so happy.

love you all : )


Olive2017-11-11 12:16:31
"now, i understand. i think understand it all. where the music is going"

I do not understand.


nvictor2017-11-18 01:04:13
Olive i love your pseudonym : ) i wrote that comment in a rush, i was overwhelmed by the music!

listen to the latest soundtracks by the remote control people, slow each of them a tad bit, and let me know if you still don't understand : )

YFM reply Replies: 4 || 2017-11-17 10:12:39
I'm working on my own version of "The Mole", "Escaping The Mole", or whatever the long warped/over music edited tension cue is named.

nightly demos will be posted every day until I finish it, but it sounds fine now if you "must have" it.

soundcloud.com/yourfavoratemusic/hans-zimmer-dunkirk-escapin g-the-mole-nightly-demo


badbu2017-11-17 13:07:10
the fyc is comming soon ;-)
maybe we get the "film version"


...2017-11-17 13:39:25
I really hope we get the FYC! The score needs to be heard in full

Great work btw!


Mike (OTM)2017-11-17 18:28:02
YFM, your work is awesome. Long time lurk-listener. Looking forward to this,


nvictor2017-11-18 00:57:47
oh noes can't find that page!?

Jacob reply Replies: 1 || 2017-11-11 13:42:47
Hey guys,

I found this track on youtube. its the Mole (film Version)
Its quite good. I wish they would release the real version sometime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_995VzM9FYg


bro2017-11-13 04:39:30
pretty good but it is missing several layers/tracks of strings over the main track

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-11 20:10:19
Hybrid, I assume the above credits are incomplete? We're missing three names...

Dudu reply Replies: 2 || 2017-10-29 23:13:13
Hi Hybrid!
Don't know where else to post this but do you know more about Andrew K's involvement in the thor ragnarok score? I also saw that it was mixed by Alan Meyerson; did RCP did a rescue mission there?
And still about Andrew, do you know if there are any plans for a release of his score for sky hunter?
Thanks ;)


Hybrid Soldier2017-10-31 19:36:15
He worked on Thor... I have honestly no more info...

As for Sky Hunter, there are talks about a soundtrack release, if that happens of course you'll know about it here !


Dudu2017-11-02 14:05:21
Okay thanks for the info!

Badbu reply Replies: 4 || 2017-10-24 11:21:09
Bluray Bonus:

Revisiting the Miracle 07:25
Dunkerque 04:45
Expanding the Frame 03:26
The In-camera Approach s 05:35
Rebuilding the Mole 05:42
The Army on the Beach 005:03
Uniform Approach 005:06
Inside the Cockpit 005:42
Assembling the Navy Fleet 03:38
Launching the Moonstone 05:38
Taking to the Sea 13:04
Sinking the Ships 07:09
The Little Ships 05:40
Turning up the Tension 07:03
The Dunkirk Spirit 07:32
Taking to the Air 11:47
----------------------------
Turning up the Tension 07:03 -> hopefully the making of the score :-)


Waymann2017-10-24 17:10:02
Could be, or could be about the narrative structure of the film.


yay2017-10-29 23:45:32
How you find this?


Ahmad2017-10-30 13:24:23
WB already did a press release with the details about the Blu-ray. It seems like there's no featurette about the music.

Creation: Revisiting the Miracle
Creation: Dunkerque
Creation: Expanding the Frame
Creation: The In-Camera Approach
Land: Rebuilding the Mole
Land: The Army On the Beach
Land: Uniform Approach
Air: Taking to the Air
Air: Inside the Cockpit
Sea: Assembling the Naval Fleet
Sea: Launching the Moonstone
Sea: Taking to the Sea
Sea: Sinking the Ships
Sea: The Little Ships
Conclusion: Turning Up the Tension
Conclusion: The Dunkirk Spirit


badbu2017-10-31 19:32:40
i think it is: Conclusion: Turning Up the Tension

babdu reply Replies: 3 || 2017-10-12 20:49:25
i need the FYC Score!!! Now!!! :D
One of my favourite scores from Hans!


Agent2017-10-12 22:19:40
Glad you liked it.


Der-Profl2017-10-13 21:34:27
babdu, mee too! :D


Collector2017-10-18 09:41:34
Same here, I want to re-live the whole film through score and there is so much more we havent heard yet. Keeping my fingers crossed.

matthew reply Replies: 3 || 2017-10-16 17:03:53
as a giant fucking fan of this movie, I can't put it into words just how lazy is this presentation of the actual music.

it annoys the shit out of me when I read comments on youtube, Itunes, Amazon and also here, like whats the opening music? and the stupid answer is from everybody: "oh yeah, you're looking for The Mole, thats the opening scene!" well, fuck, the movie opens with The Mole, but it goes on for only 2 minutes, and the rest 4 minutes is unused, and the actual 4 minutes after 2 minutes, from the opening is unreleased. it is a minor fact that seems 100% unnoticed by every person. because the music is non-stop in the film, I consider the opening from the logos, until we arrive to the beach.

Shivering Soldier is the first track that appears "as used in the film" form on the release.

Supermarine is a misleading action suite released before the premiere, because of marketing purposes, I think the studio was a bit scared, so they wanted to demonstrate that this is more of a summer blockbuster than a black and white war movie.

Home is the classic "different version in film" case, only to give Hybrid Soldier the chance to come here and give a defense speech about how Zimmer, Nolan, and every soul at warner bros, at water tower music, at remote control and every world-class star status earned professionals in hollywood couldn't make the "as used in film" presentation dream come true. the "no the time for caution" event is still comes hilariously amature from a creative business built on the words: "Make it happen"




mpolonest123 2017-10-16 19:38:03
If they decide to release a proper FYC hopefully that will contain the film order/versions/unreleased/etc.

But I do agree, this is one of those scores that is tremendously improved by the film flow. Honestly I never understood the thinking behind putting out an album if you aren’t going to use the full 79 minutes it allows. Especially when you are missing cues which are vastly different from what’s presented. Why “Escape From Ship” or “No Time For Caution” weren’t there to begin with confuses me.


Max Potcats2017-10-16 22:58:07
You're right, matthew, but i'd said everyone here is used to this kind of album release with HZ/RCP, like The Thin Red Line or Inception with a lot of suites and not so much of the actual movie score. Personally i don't mind because I know the full score will be release some day and I really enjoy suites. However, I'm afraid there is nothing else to do that wait.

ps : i think Hans or RCP has no right to publish a full score (even they own), it's up to the studio--


Ahmad2017-10-17 17:07:40
I totally agree with you. I was let down when I first heard the album. It's great but it's a selection of the score. I feel like they could've done a better job crafting the album.
Hell, something experimental like releasing the music as it is as a long (digital) track would've been interesting.

I think what made it difficult for them is how the tempo changes all the time, which might have resulted in an unpleasant listening experience (I think that might have been their point of view). For example, in the movie, the tempo of the cue "Home" changes a lot and some layers are taken out while the album version has a constant tempo.

Unfortunately, the number of people who noticed how unsatisfying this release is, is quite small, so there won't be anything official. Once again, we have to wait for leaks or bootlegs.

Snivette reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-27 02:21:17
I know that someone has most likely already asked this already but... where's the song from the trailer? It wasn't featured in the film at all nor is it listed on the soundtrack. Will it ever get released? I was really looking forward to that one..

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-26 05:40:52
Hybrid, do you know when Hans will come to Mexico? I just listening right now an audio and he says he will come. He is coming because of the earthquake. Thanks

halo reply Replies: 6 || 2017-09-19 19:25:21
1m01
1m03
1m03 (Alternate)
1m04
1m05
1m09
2m01
2m02
2m03
2m06
3m01 (Insert)
3m05
3m06
4m02
5m01
5m02
5m03
5m03 (Alternate)
5m05
5m07
6m01
6m02
6m03
6m04
7m01


Waymann2017-09-19 19:42:47
? What’s this, a complete cue list?


badbu2017-09-19 19:47:50
oO is this the complete list???? oO


Ahmad2017-09-19 20:20:29
Again, people! S.O.U.R.C.E please!
For now I'm gonna consider this bullshit trolling because this doesn't tell us anything.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-19 20:23:18
Especially since Hans has just never used that particular slate system at all...


badbu2017-09-19 20:23:35
@Ahmad...yep...you're so right!!!


Edmund Meinerts2017-09-20 16:26:58
Lol. Anyone can write up a bunch of random slate numbers. Nice try.

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