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See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/I'm trying to be objective* (sorry haha)@Anonymous Zimmer's best? Well... I'm trying to be subjective:<br>IMO The Thin Red Line remains the pinnacle of Hans' career from an artistic point of view. It's a turning point, though we've been used to this kind of writing since (so many scores have copied TTRL).<br><br>Inception and (especially) Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring as well. Their level of complexity is unmatched in Zimmer's discography.<br>Gladiator is another impressive score, as it combines some of the best action music, best drama and deepest emotions Hans has ever composed for a movie.<br><br>Seems like I'm quite objective here, as none of my favorites scores are on this list ! ;)Interesting you mention William Ross' role in Chamber of Secrets because I've never fully understood what his exact involvement was. Was he just an additional music composer? Or did he actually compose most of the score with John Williams only writing the suites? Just curious if you know.
I mean, the thematic situation *is* a bit messy. You've got new themes by Powell, one new Williams theme adapted by Powell, and then existing Star Wars themes adapted by Powell. I agree the credits are a bit long-winded but I can't think of a more concise way to convey all that information.<br><br>What does bother me (and maybe this is my inner fanboy talking) is that it seems to downplay Powell's role a bit, listing him second and with the use of the word "adapted" which makes him feel a bit second fiddle. Remember how William Ross "adapted" Williams' music for Chamber of Secrets, by which was meant largely copying and pasting bits from Sorcerer's Stone? I have no doubt that Powell has done a far, far more substantial job here (and they do say "composed and adapted", to be fair). Then again, it's a Star Wars score, and of course they're going to put Williams' name front and center as much as possible no matter what.<br><br>This is all such nitpicking of the highest order :pHans for Star Wars ?<br><br><br>Never.<br><br><br>Ron probably asked him first and Hans probably was like "JOHN POWELL !!"What would have happened if Ron Howard would have been the first choice to direct Solo? He would have chosen James Horner (if he wasn't dead) or try to convince Hans Zimmer to do the music. The only collaboration between Howard and maestro Williams was in the movie Far And Away.Poster in SpainA Star Wars score that sounds like a Powell score? I'm in.<br><br>From what I've heard of many people, the score is really great and apart from the Williams theme, I heard Powell also had a lot of great themes.<br><br>I cannot wait for it!
Your source?Just saw the film, really fun and faced paced movie. The score is great, it has a solid main theme by John Williams (not as great as Rey theme though) but still memorable and john powell adapts this main theme in various variations throughout the film. Star Wars fan might be dissapointed by the score because this overall sounds like a typical Powell score which doesn’t really sound like a typical Star Wars movie. Still fans of Powell will love this new score.La La-Land is going to release the scorePowell adapted ideas from Williams (i think in one interview, he saids the new themes come from tunes by Williams)Music providen by additional composers, mean like, diferent version or re-arranged parts from a cue
Sorry about my lack of knowledge on this...but somebody can explain me what means "Additional Music"?.<br><br>I know somebody composed the score, sometimes the same person is the arranger or orchestrator (like ussually do John Williams), but "Additional Music"??? I'm lost like always...Anyone else think the credits are too complicated? Why not just have "Han Solo theme by John Williams" and "Score by John Powell"? I know that Powell directly quotes some Williams cues, but I dunno. That's an overly complicated cover, in my opinion.I saw it in Paris, amazing show, my favourite after Zimmer's oneI think that credit connected with John Williams's music from the original Star Wars movies. So, Herbert Spencer was the original orchstrator on the first three movies (New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi). More of that, he's been credited on Rogue One: A Star Wars Story as orchestrator. All other people usually works with John Williams, except Mark Graham, who's heading music preparation in almost every Hollywood movies now (Jo Ann Kane Music Services)I am increasingly seeing two separate credits for the orchestration role: one being the usual "Orchestrated By" and the other is this "Additional Orchestrations" credit. I can understand what one might mean by "additional music" but what differentiates these two orchestration roles from one another?
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Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Aljoscha Christenhuß
ComposerAdditional Music
The Dark Tower
Label: Sony Masterworks
Length: 66'52
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  1. The Dark Tower (1:42)
  2. The Face Of My Father (1:29)
  3. I Kill With My Heart (3:03)
  4. Skin People (2:34)
  5. Getting A Toothbrush (1:15)
  6. Dutch Hill (2:58)
  7. Guardian (0:47)
  8. Arrival In Mid-World (1:52)
  9. His Shine Is Pure (2:21)
  10. The Map (2:25)
  11. Thinny (2:36)
  12. Something Got Out (1:32)
  13. We Don't Have Chicken (3:01)
  14. Manny Village (1:06)
  15. See Across Worlds (2:18)
  16. There's Always Another Battle (2:12)
  17. A Chicken, A Goat And One Bullet (3:44)
  18. Keystone Earth (0:48)
  19. Portal Activity (1:31)
  20. Smiley Face (1:47)
  21. The Creed (3:14)
  22. Death Always Wins (2:53)
  23. Dixie Pig (2:20)
  24. Tall, Dark And Handsome (1:54)
  25. Full Package As Advertised (2:05)
  26. It Will Fall (4:51)
  27. Collateral Damage (4:44)
  28. Hot Dogs (1:15)
  29. Roland Of Eld (Main Titles) (2:35)
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Junk Swatch! reply Replies: 3 || 2018-02-26 15:21:25
Guys, I apologise for being so crap. I wanted to be Swatch! but couldn't do it. My samples are not good and Grolsch is powerful.

When I rock, it tends to be in a disco with guys my age. We rock a lot and my music heats the beats. Schwag! HZ made me make a theme for Dark Tower. I wanted to do a GROOVE, TIME. Didn't work.

So, I looked at this guy Goldman, Goldsmith or some old guy. He is my age but as I wear a hat I am cooler than him.

He does cool themes. So I thought he is cool. But then I heard about this crazy Scottish guy Doyle, so I based my theme on his work!

Anyways, I party. Man, you should see my abs!


Medigo2018-02-26 16:09:14
If this is a troll, it doesnt even make sense anymore.


Maxim Vlasov2018-02-26 16:12:14
I see someone bored!


JBSO992018-02-26 18:01:50
Why he does not give up? He needs to enter in every page in the site and shit on every composer around here.

It looks like someone need to get a life...

Macejko reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-01 13:06:11
The main theme (Roland of Eld) is awesome, yet the rest is painfully unremarkable.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-07-28 14:30:24
Just took a listen to this and am so impressed. There are many JXL mannerisms in the string writing and electronics, but outside of those I don't think I've heard him write in this huge fantasy style before. "The Dark Tower" and "Roland of Eld" make me wish he was still on board for Justice League.
And huge praise to whoever did the mixing on this one!


JBSO992017-07-28 19:38:16
I have listened to those two tracks and they sounded amazing.
I wish Junkie stayed in Justice League for hearing more of him in this style.
I still have to listen to this full score but for now I like it a lot.


mpolonest123 2017-07-28 21:39:36
The album definitely could use some trimming, there are some filler tracks which kill the flow. Outside of that it's a pretty strong release...


JBSO992017-07-28 23:17:37
It looks like there are many short tracks that usually stop the flow of an album but it looks pretty cool.


mpolonest123 2017-07-29 15:58:11
The big problem with most of his album releases is that he tends to include some of the more atmospheric underscore which just doesn't make for a great listening experience. If you condense any JXL album down you can definitely get a better representation of his music.


Ahmad2017-07-29 17:05:24
Well, let me give you a very simple solution to that: make your own playlist or mixtape or whatever based on what you want to hear. I'd rather have as much music as possible and edit myself than have an incomplete release.

Jordan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-28 11:56:22
Here's the tracklist with track time:

1. The Dark Tower (01:42)
2. The Face of My Father (01:29)
3. I Kill With My Heart (03:03)
4. Skin People (02:33)
5. Getting a Toothbrush (01:14)
6. Dutch Hill (02:57)
7. Guardian (00:47)
8. Arrival in Mid-World (01:52)
9. His Shine Is Pure (02:21)
10. The Map (02:25)
11. Thinny (02:36)
12. Something Got Out (01:31)
13. We Don't Have Chicken (03:01)
14. Manny Village (01:06)
15. See Across Worlds (02:18)
16. There's Always Another Battle (02:12)
17. A Chicken, a Goat and One Bullet (03:44)
18. Keystone Earth (00:47)
19. Portal Activity (01:31)
20. Smiley Face (01:46)
21. The Creed (03:14)
22. Death Always Wins (02:53)
23. Dixie Pig (02:20)
24. Tall, Dark and Handsome (01:54)
25. Full Package as Advertised (02:05)
26. It Will Fall (04:50)
27. Collateral Damage (04:44)
28. Hot Dogs (01:14)
29. Roland of Eld (Main Titles) (02:34)

Total time: 66:43

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-28 10:16:39
On Itunes:

htt ps: //itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-dark-tower-original-motion-p icture -soundtrack/id1260934127

isildur reply Replies: 1 || 2017-07-19 19:58:55
29 tracks!! Even if on an average each track is 2 min long it's almost an hour 20 mins. Well, I'm not the one to complain about more music. Bring it on. Hopefully something good.


Waymann2017-07-20 11:54:31
Amazon says 1:06:43 long.

Darrell reply Replies: 0 || 2017-07-19 19:47:09
There's the cover of the soundtrack is at Amazon already! Music by Tom Holkenborg.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-07-11 03:10:53
So excited to hear this! I think Tom mentioned in an interview that it will definitely be different than his current style. Not sure what to expect but I'm hopeful that we will get a good cross between western and fantasy.


Waymann2017-07-11 08:30:22
As long as it doesn't sound like Mad Max, Deadpool or BvS, then i'm excited.

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