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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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Annabelle - Creation
Label: WaterTower Music
Length: 48'27 (Score: 45'36)
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  1. Creation (3:42)
  2. The Mullins Family (0:43)
  3. A New Home (1:28)
  4. Bee's Room (3:01)
  5. Annabelle Awakened (2:17)
  6. Bunkmates (1:01)
  7. Shadows And Sheets (1:25)
  8. Bee's Photo (1:21)
  9. Puppets And Mischief (1:16)
  10. Your Soul (2:48)
  11. Avatars (1:48)
  12. Demon Fishing (2:47)
  13. The Possession (1:44)
  14. Linda's Suspicion (0:45)
  15. Samuel's Death (2:25)
  16. Our Beloved Bee (3:51)
  17. Jannabelle (2:58)
  18. Transformation (1:29)
  19. Demonquake (2:36)
  20. Police (1:37)
  21. The House Is Blessed (1:42)
  22. Adoption (1:08)
  23. Conduit (1:44)
  24. You Are My Sunshine - Charles McDonald (2:51)
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Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-24 16:30:22
Wallfisch his score for IT is available for pre-order on itunes. It's 38 tracks! tomorrow track 9 will be available.

Trashy XL reply Replies: 13 || 2017-08-08 09:48:00
Benjamin Wallfisch is HZ's new Lorne Balfe right?


badbu2017-08-08 09:50:16
i don't think so...


Michael 2017-08-08 15:08:25
God no !!!! Don't think so . Balfe's music is superior than this anyday


Pete2017-08-08 15:09:21
No way . Balfe's is a far better composer .


MrZimmerFan2017-08-08 15:36:48
Wallfisch was orchestrator in many ocassions with Marianelli.

That's a very superior point


Afilm2017-08-08 15:41:16
Exactly - a great orchestrator . That's all


Oscarilbo2017-08-08 15:52:36
IMHO Wallfisch is indeed better than Balfe. His style tends more towards classic romantic than Remote Control, which is an interesting balance. Also, his thematic ideas are far more memorable. How come Balfe couldn't come up with something worthy of a Kung Fu Panda movie for the father-son relationship theme in the 3rd movie is beyond me.

Just listen A Cure for Wellness, by Wallfisch.


Mike2017-08-08 16:28:30
Oscarilbo - Father and Son fro. King Fu Panda 3 is an amazing theme . It is also very memorable . Maybe check out YouTube and see everyone else reactions !!! Wallfish is a great orchestrator but Balfe can write epic themes


MrZimmerFan2017-08-08 18:17:11
But epic themes aren't enough, Wallfisch in A Cure for Wellness creates a really creepy score, that lullaby or Volmer's theme, are memorable.


Mickael2017-08-08 19:05:57
Lol !!! Memorable hardly


James2017-08-09 00:07:14
Wallfisch is on his way to take Beltrami's former seat in horror movies. That's right.

Particularly I think the two are equally talented with the difference that wallfisch is more versatile.

Which of the two will continue in the "game" at the end of the next ten years, only time will tell.


Mike2017-08-09 03:45:45
James - regarding balfe not being versatile maybe have think about this

Action : Call of Duty, Terminator, Assasin Creed, Ghost in the shell
Comedy : Dillema, Penguins
Drama : Genius , Churchill, The Crown
Animation : Home, Lego
Horror : Blackwood, Marcella

Even looking at his web site - so much more with commercials etc


Mike2017-08-12 14:27:13
4 additional composers !!!!!


KAmis2017-08-13 04:54:49
4 additional composers isn't it ? How long is the score

JackAfrogarrix 2017 reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-05 13:30:34
Another Great Horror From Benjamin Wallfisch With His Second Collaboration With David F. Sandberg In Annabelle Creation. The Music If The Score Is Kind Of Drama/Sad And Then Come The Horror. Also He Will Works Again In A Horror Film IT(WaterTower Music) & Blade Runner 2049 As Additional Composer With Hans Zimmer & Jóhann Jóhannsson

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