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Olive the problem is to me at least 12 Strong sounds very like 13 Hours. That then totally messes your argument up !13 Hours must be nearly 3 years old now.where can i find the cue sheets? thxWondring how much influence Tom Howe wille have on this score. Professor Marston was such a lovely score.All those people who complain that Hans isn't sticking to more traditional scores forget that at heart, hes a synth man who loves his synthesizers and keyboards. Hans is just as much as a musical artist as Bowie or Paul Mccartney, in the sense that he goes through musical trends and his style adapts or changes. That's just the way it is, enjoy it for what it is. <br><br>Crucify me for comparing a human to David Bowie!Wow! Stephen Barton worked on a lot of the important cues here, huh?
I'm with Edmund in that I'd love for Hans to win more Oscars, but not this score. I feel like even Blade Runner 2049 is more deserving of an award than this. Sure, it works great in the film, but that shouldn't be reason enough for an Oscar. I feel like Desplat's nominated score is more deserving than this one. <br><br>"But this one has a unique sound and recording!"<br><br>Okay... a lot of scores have that. A lot of Zimmer's work has that. Doesn't make them all masterpieces.<br><br>"But we have to spite those evil reviewers who hate this score!"<br><br>Why do you let their opinion get in the way of your enjoyment? If you love it enough, the critics' opinions should only make you enjoy it more because you see something in it they don't. <br><br>I agree with George in that Hans needs to go back to a melodic sound. I don't think whether this score wins or not will change Hans' mind on that, but I do want his next Oscar winner to mean something other than, "Oh cool! I won this award because I made weird sounds!" (Which by the way, involves things like programming and a lot of other technical adjustments that have nothing to do with Hans' composing ability)."The thing that I'm proudest about Dunkirk is you can't separate it from the film."<br>- Hans Zimmer, GQI understand, but it does not make sense.<br>You're arguing that the score for a movie released in January this year was produced before of the score of a movie that went to theaters in July. If Balfe started working on "12 strong" a year before the movie release, the same can be said of Dunkirk. It is easy to infer that the Dunkirk's score has been working since the middle of 2016! Or even before, because of the tours that Zimmer has done.<br>The music/sound design, even being simple, was not made and recorded between January and May of last year.Olive  that is when it was announced !!! Not when he did itBalfe's hiring came out in May, when Dunkirk's production was already at the end. No contest.<br><br><br>filmmusicreporter.  com/ <br> 2017/05/24/lorne-balfe-to-score-horse-soldiers/
Hans finished the bulk of the score before he went on tour, you could find an interview where he himself says so. <br>Ben worked solely on Variation 15. <br>Scroll down on this page and you'll find the full cuesheet with the credits. <br>Edmund - how do you think Zimmer wrote Dunkirk when he was on a world tour !!!Congratulations to Ben, Lorne also .Edmund - the release dates do not matter . Check out Balfe’s Facebook page and you will see he was recording 12 Strong early last year .I've only heard the suite Hybrid made. The only similarity I was aware of is the siren-like sound. <br><br>People don't realize how difficult scoring Dunkirk was. Just because you love Interstellar (I do too - it's my favorite HZ score) but that doesn't mean Dunkirk doesn't deserve to win. <br>Edmund, in all honesty what are the similarities between 12 Strong and Dunkirk? I know both scores and fail to see how they connect.
Doesn't deserve an Oscar. Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer but if he didn't win for Interstellar, he shouldn't win for this. <br><br>I can seriously say that I object this score winning based on that principle. This winning over Interstellar just isn't right.Well, the credits say that Supermarine or the oil are pure Zimmer, and also the 3 first track I think. So Balfe helped him to develop some ideas during his tour but the majority of the score is Hans' work.<br>And it does deserve an Oscar. I never heard a score like that.. If you have a problem with the score I think it comes from the script. A classical melodical music wouldn t work for this film i think.Source? I find that hard to believe considering the release dates. Even if it is true, Balfe might have been concurrently working on Dunkirk and brought over some of the ideas. I find it spectacularly improbably that he and Hans just HAPPENED to come up with the same ideas at the same time.Edmund - gets you facts right please . 12 Strong was written before DunkirkHere's an interesting opinion: I want Hans to win this one so that he DOESN'T continue making music like this. Sure its functional, but if he could reinvent the melodic score again and get back to writing memorable melodies I'd be pretty happy. He won for Lion King and then essentially abandoned that tone of music which transitioned into the Crimson Tide/The Rock sound... so maybe, just maybe, if he wins this year he'll completely reinvent his sound again and give us something both melodically memorable but also be a total game changer in terms of modern scores.
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  1. Every 27 Years (2:36)
  2. Paper Boat (1:55)
  3. Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
  4. Derry (2:24)
  5. River Chase (2:09)
  6. Egg Boy (2:44)
  7. Beverly (1:20)
  8. Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
  9. You'll Float Too (3:20)
  10. Shape Shifter (1:42)
  11. Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
  12. Haircut (4:14)
  13. Derry History (2:48)
  14. January Embers (1:05)
  15. Saving Mike (1:15)
  16. This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
  17. Slideshow (2:01)
  18. Georgie's Theme (1:42)
  19. He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
  20. Neibolt Street (4:17)
  21. Time To Float (3:04)
  22. It's What It Wants (1:19)
  23. You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
  24. Return To Neibolt (2:31)
  25. Into The Well (2:05)
  26. Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
  27. Deadlights (2:04)
  28. Searching For Stanley (2:28)
  29. Saving Beverly (3:36)
  30. Georgie Found (1:53)
  31. Transformation (0:58)
  32. Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
  33. Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
  34. Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
  35. Blood Oath (3:11)
  36. Kiss (0:54)
  37. Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
  38. Epilogue - The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
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DT-2017 reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-12 00:26:58
Interestingly, though this score is being submitted for consideration in Awards Season, I haven't seen an FYC floating about for this one. Anybody in the know and is able to say whether the FYC is just this OST, or whether it's different in any way?


Anonymous2018-01-12 02:22:53
For years now WB has been jewing out and using the soundtrack as the FYC. Go figure that the same studio who re-releases and re-releases a harry potter collection year after year pulls this


DT-20172018-01-12 15:57:33
I guess it would depend entirely on what sort of award WB is going after. I'm told if they submit it for an Oscar, they have to present it as is heard in the film, and the OST presentation would definitely disqualify it if that's the case. (The point came up when I asked why The Last Jedi was cues taken from the film stems when somebody else suggested it wasn't because of the ease given how the film was scored)

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2017-10-23 07:52:16
Time To Float is sooo strong :-) And a nice Scene btw :-)


CT-11382017-10-23 09:37:10
Skarsgard really nailed that scene, it was the scene which made it clear how different his Pennywise is from Tim Curry's.


badbu2017-10-23 11:06:00
yeah!!! He was amazing!!! After Dunkrik the best movie in 2017 (for me)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-09-08 15:58:36
Finished with my first listen and I'm loving what I heard. Normally 80+ minutes tend to drag for me... not here. The music is consistently strong and Wallfisch is able to do something most horror composers fail at; keep the horror underscore interesting. I tend to normally get bored with horror scores when they pull the same tricks, but I found myself genuinely unnerved with the vocal effects he throws in.

As for the themes, while there are definitely no competitors for ACFW they all work extremely well. Especially when they allow for big moments of wonder or softer emotion. I'm really loving this one, not quite as much as Wellness but definitely in the same ballpark.


mpolonest123 2017-09-08 16:03:47
And am I crazy or is that Richard Bellis' theme from the miniseries in "Its What It Wants"?


Medigo2017-09-09 13:46:06
I like it'
but sweet god
dont listen to this with headphones


CT-11382017-10-22 23:34:29
mpolonest123 - definitely sounds like it might be inspired by it. I heard the "glockenspiel roll" employed by Bellis used in the track "Deadlights" as well. If these things are intentional nods, then it's pretty cool that the score at least acknowledges the past.

JBSO99 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-22 14:16:01
Does anyone know what tracks appear in the end credits of the movie (in case there is music, that I think it is). I think the credits open with Every 27 Years (Reprise), but I don't know what's next.
Thanks in advance for the help!


CT-11382017-10-22 23:32:47
I don't know if anybody stayed behind long enough to find out given that the only thing waiting at the end of the credits is one last Pennywise laugh and "IT: Chapter 1". I'd assume "Georgie's Theme" played next.

CT-1138 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-09-28 00:04:58
Pretty good score that fits the film very well (which, by the way, is a great film). I don't think the OST misses anything off of any significance... but it doesn't seem to be in chronological order either.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 00:23:45
Well Ben wrote more than a hundred cues for it ! Lots of very very short pieces... The OST has got everything needed indeed. As for chronlogical order, the second half is, but the first is kinda all over the place with lots of combined cues so hard to really place them, but here's what I came up with (if you don't want to start butchering every track lol) :

Every 27 Years (2:36)
Paper Boat (1:55)
Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
Derry (2:24)
Shape Shifter (1:42)
Egg Boy (2:44)
River Chase (2:09)
Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
Beverly (1:20)
Derry History (2:48)
Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
Haircut (4:14)
You'll Float Too (3:20)
January Embers (1:05)
Saving Mike (1:15)
This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
Slideshow (2:01)
He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
Neibolt Street (4:17)
Time To Float (3:04)
It's What It Wants (1:19)
You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
Return To Neibolt (2:31)
Into The Well (2:05)
Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
Deadlights (2:04)
Searching For Stanley (2:28)
Saving Beverly (3:36)
Georgie Found (1:53)
Transformation (0:58)
Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
Blood Oath (3:11)
Kiss (0:54)
Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
Georgie's Theme (1:42)

Aaaaand if you STILL want a super detailed breakdown of the beginning :

Every 27 Years
Paper Boat
Georgie, Meet Pennywise
Derry (0:20 to 1:02)
Derry (1:41 to end)
Derry (1:02 to 1:41)
Shape Shifter
Derry (0:00 to 0:21)
Egg Boy
River Chase
Hockstetter Attack
January Embers (0:00 to 0:25)
Haircut (0:00 to 0:51)
Beverly
Derry History
Come Join The Clown, Eds
Haircut (0:51 to end)
You'll Float Too
January Embers (0:25 to end)
Saving Mike
This Is Not A Dream
Slideshow
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:31 to end)
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:00 to 0:31)
21 Neibolt Street
Time To Float
It's What It Wants
You'll Die If You Try (0:51 to end)
You'll Die If You Try (0:00 to 0:51)
Return To Neibolt
Etc.


JBSO992017-09-28 09:21:45
Hundred cues! Wow! That's s lot of work on his part. I kind of like the horror pays but I would have love if he had created more tracks like Paper Boat, Beverly or Blood Oath, but I guess the movie didn't needed more. Also I hope will be brought back to score the second chapter so he can use some of his themes and develop them.

PS: Hybrid, thanks for the chrono tracklist!


CT-11382017-09-28 11:24:26
Thanks for the breakdown :)

It's nice to know the second half is in order, though I think "The Pennywise Dance" should go before "Deadlights" since it plays as Pennywise does the 'old man jig'.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 11:58:54
That... is what I wrote ! lol


CT-11382017-09-28 12:02:54
Oops, you already chronologically placed "The Pennywise Dance"! My bad!

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-07 16:10:43
The samples sound great. Blood Oath's going be a favorite. Sounds like an emotional score.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-08-24 18:31:35
So excited for this!!!! :D

If it's anything on the same level as A Cure For Wellness then bring it on!


David2017-08-25 02:21:43
Me too! A Cure For Wellness was great!

Mikes reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-25 00:39:04
Yawn

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