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Are there any more tour dates planned?Lord of the Rings - Shore<br>Battlestar Galactica - McCreary<br><br>Both are up there as my two favorite collection of works. GOT doesn't even compare to BSG. <br><br>For solo albums, my candidates are:<br><br>Titanic<br>The Lion King<br>Interstellar<br>Memoirs of a Geisha<br>Jurassic Park<br><br><br> <br><br>@superultramega<br>Honestly I feel like most of the issues with AUJ (and the other two hobbit films) were stemming from Peter Jackson editing the hell out of the music after the fact. It could be why they ended up dumping some themes in the following films.<br><br>Still, I don’t understand some of the criticism that the Hobbit trilogy scores received. DoS has some of the best action material imo, and the interpolations of Smaug’s theme(s) throughout the films are personally some of my favorite music from any LoTR project.<br><br>And this might be controversial, but I would put PoTC (the first three at least) on the level of Lord of the Rings in terms of the sheer amount of themes and development they receive. Maybe not quite as complex but they shouldn’t be overlooked.The Lion King and The Last Samurai are good choices, but I'm not as much of a fan as Zimmer's aesthetic or thematic work nearly as much as Howard Shore, or even Jablonskly at times. Game of Thrones I still can't comment on as I've never watched the show, or payed attention to Djawadi in general.<br><br>I would say Shore's heart wasn't in Desolation and Five Armies, but to say that about Unexpected Journey doesn't really feel right to me. Even themes like Gondor Restored and Nazgul's uses have some logic to them. <br><br>Gondor Restored was also used when the Ring is destroyed, meaning it also has a secondary meaning of victory against evil, (yes I know it affected Gondor too, but Gondor it isn't as direct). Which also applies in The Hobbit, as Bilbo saving Thorin was not only important for their relationship but also the future of Middle Earth as Thorin is vital to the battle against the orcs in Five Armies. <br><br>The Nazgul theme also makes sense as its first appearance is in Fellowship's opening, playing over Sauron's army of orcs, then Sauron himself. So it's linked both to Sauron himself and his servants, which includes Azog. Plus the version that plays in the film is the exact same variant (and lyrics) that plays in the Fellowship prologue. It serves almost as a precursor to the Nazgul. Plus I don't see why themes can't have several meanings anyway.  <br><br>Plus I love most of the new themes of AUJ (before they were abandoned in later films).Not really a fair comparison, Hybrid, since videogames as a medium are much younger than films, and their scores weren't using real orchestras right until... mid 90's, would be my guess (feel free to correct me, guys).<br><br>The all time best film score for me would be a battle between The Last Samurai and Lion King. If "movie" includes TV shows, then it's Game of Thrones without a doubt, but I'm not gonna have this argument again ;)<br><br>Btw. I wouldn't mention Hobbit in the same sentence with LotR, even music-wise. A couple of great cues cannot hide the fact that Shore's heart wasn't in it.
IS * lion kingBest film score of all time in lion king. Without any doubt. ;-)Can I just add, the album presentation for MW2 is really lame? It's a big, dare I say "epic" score in the 1990s Media Ventures mold. I think it's really solid. There are lots of different ideas from the first mission to the last, and a lot of them are written in the power anthem style that Hans ans co. don't really use much these days. Even Opening Titles is a throwback for Hans himself. <br><br>Unfortunately, almost none of the music as heard through the game is here. Instead, we got a bunch of shortened theme suites. :P<br><br>But the Gulag mission, the oil rig stuff, The Enemy of My Enemy, and lots of other missions all have pretty engaging and powerful music. I wish the RCP guys would do scores like this one more.Lord of the Rings (and even The Hobbit), are the only film scores that I'm buying an entire book for, just to fully understand the themes and motifs.Every time I revisit this score the first cue I automatically go back to is “This Isn’t Right”. Something about RGW’s string writing always stuck with me, even if he isn’t the most memorable when it comes to themes.<br><br>As for this score itself, I feel like it might have become a classic had it not been paired with such a shitty film. It’s funny, the score sounds less like Hans’ style to me and more like James Horner’s. Granted he only wrote one cue apparently...
But the best film score of all time is Lord of the Rings... :>Guys... Video Game music didn't start in 2008... lol<br><br><br>Your little game is actually impossible... It's pretty much like trying find "what is the best film score of all time"...I agree with Araujo and Knorr wholeheartedly. Cannot say the same for Soule; I always found his music lackluster and unfocused, sans the main theme of course. I'd like to mention my first runner-up, which is Destiny: Rise of Iron alongside Destiny 2. I was never a huge fan of the first two scores (original game + the first expansion), but the moment a guy named Rotem Moav got on Salvatori's team, the music became incredible (even though I have no evidence that those two events are related). Nevertheless, since it's stylistically so different from old-school and symphonic LAIR, I'd probably name it my No.1 alongside it.<br><br>If you guys are looking for recommendations, be sure to check these out:<br>The Witcher 3 (Marcin Przyby³owicz, Mikolai Stroinski, and a band called Percival), LotRO: Riders of Rohan (Chance Thomas), Assassin's Creed IV (Brian Tyler), Alone In The Dark (Olivier Deriviére), Eagle Flight (Inon Zur), Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius (Noriyasu Agematsu), Ni No Kuni I/II (Joe Hisaishi), and of course Medal of Honor and Gears of War IV by Ramin ;)Gonna have to chip in for Skyrim as well, although I'm biased because I used to put hundreds of hours into that game :p<br><br>Oscar Araujo's music for the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow games is pretty good, as well as Geoff Knorr and his team's work on the last few Civ games.Donkey Kong Country 1, 2, Returns and Tropical Freeze.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is by far on top for me. It feels like the ultimate culmination of Jeremy Soule's work on the the series along with symphony-level quality for the town and exploration music.I go with Lair and Outcast as most favorite.<br><br>And also the Blizzard games music like Word Of Warcraft, StarCraft and Heroes of The StormI think a big part of it is that half of the cues written for the film are 30 seconds or less (or even 10 seconds in some cases). It’s almost impossible to have thematic development when you are constrained like that, so I do understand. Still, it’s hilarious hearing Zimmer give the Simpsons theme “Lion King” treatment in the main theme suite, shame that wasn’t used at all in film.<br><br>As far as the shorter cues go though, the Church Prophecy is pretty cool, and I personally love the Green Day organ cues. That was genius on whoever’s part decided to do it...Yeah it's weird how little overlap there is between the complete score and the album. I think over half of the music on the album didn't end up in the movie, at least not verbatim. I agree it makes for a much better listen, although in my version I've added a few of the better/more substantial cues from the complete score (like the cool Angels & Demons-style "Church Prophecy"/1m11-12v17, which I'm almost positive is an Atli Örvarsson contribution).Ah thankyou, thankyou very much :)
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Benjamin WallfischAntonio AndradeJohn Witt Chapman
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It
Label: WaterTower Music
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  1. Every 27 Years (2:36)
  2. Paper Boat (1:55)
  3. Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
  4. Derry (2:24)
  5. River Chase (2:09)
  6. Egg Boy (2:44)
  7. Beverly (1:20)
  8. Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
  9. You'll Float Too (3:20)
  10. Shape Shifter (1:42)
  11. Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
  12. Haircut (4:14)
  13. Derry History (2:48)
  14. January Embers (1:05)
  15. Saving Mike (1:15)
  16. This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
  17. Slideshow (2:01)
  18. Georgie's Theme (1:42)
  19. He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
  20. Neibolt Street (4:17)
  21. Time To Float (3:04)
  22. It's What It Wants (1:19)
  23. You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
  24. Return To Neibolt (2:31)
  25. Into The Well (2:05)
  26. Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
  27. Deadlights (2:04)
  28. Searching For Stanley (2:28)
  29. Saving Beverly (3:36)
  30. Georgie Found (1:53)
  31. Transformation (0:58)
  32. Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
  33. Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
  34. Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
  35. Blood Oath (3:11)
  36. Kiss (0:54)
  37. Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
  38. Epilogue - The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
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Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-28 23:41:16
Wallfisch is scoring the new Hellboy movie. Very curious what that will be!!

DT-2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2018-02-03 00:21:30
Assembling my own edit for IT, I've found at least seven cues that are different in the film:

-Georgie, Meet Pennywise (the children's choir sings "Oranges and Lemons" instead of whispering it)
-Egg Boy (Different choir performance when Ben is rifling through the book, there's less strings when Ben is chased by the headless boy)
-Mike's Fear (Seems to drop some of the orchestra and synths at the end)
-"Judith" (or "Painting Lady" if you prefer) (When Judith appears before Stan, the children's choir sings "Oranges and Lemons", before the shouting girl comes in like on the OST version. The end of the cue is choir-free)
-Slideshow (Cuts out some of the synth just before Pennywise actually comes out of the projector)
-Time To Float (Stronger percussion as Pennywise emerges from the freezer)
-Return to Niebolt (Adds in a synthetic timpani drum)
-The end credits includes another version of "Georgie, Meet Pennywise" that ends at the point where Georgie reaches into the grate.


JBSO992018-02-03 13:29:13
And in the movie, in the opening titles, after the singing kid, plays "Every 27 Years (Reprise)" and in the end credits is when "Every 27 Years" plays, but without the "Oranges and Lemons" bit.

Also, I'm interest in what your edit is? I mean, are you creating film version of some tracks, or are you mixing them together or something like that?

DT-2017 reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-12 00:26:58
Interestingly, though this score is being submitted for consideration in Awards Season, I haven't seen an FYC floating about for this one. Anybody in the know and is able to say whether the FYC is just this OST, or whether it's different in any way?


Anonymous2018-01-12 02:22:53
For years now WB has been jewing out and using the soundtrack as the FYC. Go figure that the same studio who re-releases and re-releases a harry potter collection year after year pulls this


DT-20172018-01-12 15:57:33
I guess it would depend entirely on what sort of award WB is going after. I'm told if they submit it for an Oscar, they have to present it as is heard in the film, and the OST presentation would definitely disqualify it if that's the case. (The point came up when I asked why The Last Jedi was cues taken from the film stems when somebody else suggested it wasn't because of the ease given how the film was scored)

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2017-10-23 07:52:16
Time To Float is sooo strong :-) And a nice Scene btw :-)


CT-11382017-10-23 09:37:10
Skarsgard really nailed that scene, it was the scene which made it clear how different his Pennywise is from Tim Curry's.


badbu2017-10-23 11:06:00
yeah!!! He was amazing!!! After Dunkrik the best movie in 2017 (for me)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-09-08 15:58:36
Finished with my first listen and I'm loving what I heard. Normally 80+ minutes tend to drag for me... not here. The music is consistently strong and Wallfisch is able to do something most horror composers fail at; keep the horror underscore interesting. I tend to normally get bored with horror scores when they pull the same tricks, but I found myself genuinely unnerved with the vocal effects he throws in.

As for the themes, while there are definitely no competitors for ACFW they all work extremely well. Especially when they allow for big moments of wonder or softer emotion. I'm really loving this one, not quite as much as Wellness but definitely in the same ballpark.


mpolonest123 2017-09-08 16:03:47
And am I crazy or is that Richard Bellis' theme from the miniseries in "Its What It Wants"?


Medigo2017-09-09 13:46:06
I like it'
but sweet god
dont listen to this with headphones


CT-11382017-10-22 23:34:29
mpolonest123 - definitely sounds like it might be inspired by it. I heard the "glockenspiel roll" employed by Bellis used in the track "Deadlights" as well. If these things are intentional nods, then it's pretty cool that the score at least acknowledges the past.

JBSO99 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-22 14:16:01
Does anyone know what tracks appear in the end credits of the movie (in case there is music, that I think it is). I think the credits open with Every 27 Years (Reprise), but I don't know what's next.
Thanks in advance for the help!


CT-11382017-10-22 23:32:47
I don't know if anybody stayed behind long enough to find out given that the only thing waiting at the end of the credits is one last Pennywise laugh and "IT: Chapter 1". I'd assume "Georgie's Theme" played next.

CT-1138 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-09-28 00:04:58
Pretty good score that fits the film very well (which, by the way, is a great film). I don't think the OST misses anything off of any significance... but it doesn't seem to be in chronological order either.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 00:23:45
Well Ben wrote more than a hundred cues for it ! Lots of very very short pieces... The OST has got everything needed indeed. As for chronlogical order, the second half is, but the first is kinda all over the place with lots of combined cues so hard to really place them, but here's what I came up with (if you don't want to start butchering every track lol) :

Every 27 Years (2:36)
Paper Boat (1:55)
Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
Derry (2:24)
Shape Shifter (1:42)
Egg Boy (2:44)
River Chase (2:09)
Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
Beverly (1:20)
Derry History (2:48)
Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
Haircut (4:14)
You'll Float Too (3:20)
January Embers (1:05)
Saving Mike (1:15)
This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
Slideshow (2:01)
He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
Neibolt Street (4:17)
Time To Float (3:04)
It's What It Wants (1:19)
You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
Return To Neibolt (2:31)
Into The Well (2:05)
Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
Deadlights (2:04)
Searching For Stanley (2:28)
Saving Beverly (3:36)
Georgie Found (1:53)
Transformation (0:58)
Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
Blood Oath (3:11)
Kiss (0:54)
Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
Georgie's Theme (1:42)

Aaaaand if you STILL want a super detailed breakdown of the beginning :

Every 27 Years
Paper Boat
Georgie, Meet Pennywise
Derry (0:20 to 1:02)
Derry (1:41 to end)
Derry (1:02 to 1:41)
Shape Shifter
Derry (0:00 to 0:21)
Egg Boy
River Chase
Hockstetter Attack
January Embers (0:00 to 0:25)
Haircut (0:00 to 0:51)
Beverly
Derry History
Come Join The Clown, Eds
Haircut (0:51 to end)
You'll Float Too
January Embers (0:25 to end)
Saving Mike
This Is Not A Dream
Slideshow
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:31 to end)
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:00 to 0:31)
21 Neibolt Street
Time To Float
It's What It Wants
You'll Die If You Try (0:51 to end)
You'll Die If You Try (0:00 to 0:51)
Return To Neibolt
Etc.


JBSO992017-09-28 09:21:45
Hundred cues! Wow! That's s lot of work on his part. I kind of like the horror pays but I would have love if he had created more tracks like Paper Boat, Beverly or Blood Oath, but I guess the movie didn't needed more. Also I hope will be brought back to score the second chapter so he can use some of his themes and develop them.

PS: Hybrid, thanks for the chrono tracklist!


CT-11382017-09-28 11:24:26
Thanks for the breakdown :)

It's nice to know the second half is in order, though I think "The Pennywise Dance" should go before "Deadlights" since it plays as Pennywise does the 'old man jig'.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 11:58:54
That... is what I wrote ! lol


CT-11382017-09-28 12:02:54
Oops, you already chronologically placed "The Pennywise Dance"! My bad!

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-07 16:10:43
The samples sound great. Blood Oath's going be a favorite. Sounds like an emotional score.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-08-24 18:31:35
So excited for this!!!! :D

If it's anything on the same level as A Cure For Wellness then bring it on!


David2017-08-25 02:21:43
Me too! A Cure For Wellness was great!

Mikes reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-25 00:39:04
Yawn

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