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About his studio at RCP, is it rental or he owns the stuff? What happens to the gear when he is not around?That is probably the fairest thing anyone on this website will say about Clemmensen. :P@Anonymous<br><br>Christian Clemmensen believes that Hans Zimmer found his definitive voice back in the 1990s with scores such as Driving Miss Daisy, Rain Man, Crimson Tide, and Lion King. However, he has in reviews of later scores compared Zimmer's overly obvious chord progressions and masculinity with what the "rock ballad" did to rock-n'roll music of the '70s. To him, it's overly powerful, unsubtle, and aggressive music that appeals to the gut more than the heart or the mind. Some of Zimmer's most popular scores such as Gladiator, Pirates, and The Dark Knight he has given middling reviews for because the general sound is derivative from his earlier works, not colorful, and not creative. He also accuses Zimmer of starting a trend with overly-recycled, bombastic, masculine action music that's big on density and power and low on subtlety and personality. <br><br>I can definitely see where he's coming from, one cannot deny the similarities between Crimson Tide, Lion King, Gladiator, Pirates, Dark Knight and so forth. One also cannot deny that scores such as Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 qualify more as sound design than actual symphonic music (mostly). However, if he had his way, every film score would be shamelessly optimistic and flighty, all major chords (and occasionally alternating off-key), with prominent woodwinds and metallic percussion. He definitely knows what he's talking about, but he has an ideal image for film music in mind, and that very much comes through in his Zimmer reviews, some of which I think deserve much more credit than he offered (Pirates 3, Da Vinci Code, and Gladiator come to mind).a more orchestral fury roadTom is gonna score Mortal Engines<br>What kind of sound do you expect?
He has a studio at RCP but mostly work from his own home studio. His business is "Sacred Tiger Music."<br>Does Henry actually work for HZ at RCP or does he have his own film score company now like HGW?Why filmtracks always behave very Aggressive about hans zimmer and always trys to make his scores worthless ??!! Its odd for meAw Hell...<br><br>I guess it never did freeze over.Sorry, I should've been more specific. This is a comment I had originally posted on the Filmtracks forum, NOT from a Christian Clemmensen review. My bad.
Referring to the previous comment (how did it not reply to the the previous message?)That's not the actual review. The length is a pretty big giveaway. Also, I'm fairly certain he's still given some RCP efforts some good scores.WOW....color me impressed at Filmtracks. I thought that site was anti-Zimmer in all aspects far, wide, near and dear.Copied from Filmtracks:<br><br>Excellent score - a little slow in the middle third*, but some really stirring fantasy-adventure elsewhere. "The Internet" is Cue of the Year material. Although it's odd how little synth there is here, particularly in the finale, where the orchestra seems to completely take over; this isn't too bad of a thing because Jackman's orchestral skills are downright breathtaking at times. The references to other Disney scores/musicals (yes, including Star Wars) left a big dumb grin on my face.<br><br>*I get the sense that this movie might be too long (1 hour and 52 minutes).No you're not. I think Jackman has made some great score over the last through years.<br>And I think this is one of them. Both tracks with or without electronics
So I guess I'm the only one who likes less-electronic-Henry?Henry has been removing electronics for 4 years now...Listen to<br><br>A Big Strong Man In Need Of Rescuing.<br><br>That whole track is a damn easter eggI haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.This is me or Henry Jackman removed the electronics this year it could be affect to the predator score because I was thinking about the predator score affect him to remove electronics and turned serious & dramatic. That's weird when Henry Jackman used a lot electronics & fun since 2009 to 2017 with his scores.
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  1. Every 27 Years (2:36)
  2. Paper Boat (1:55)
  3. Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
  4. Derry (2:24)
  5. River Chase (2:09)
  6. Egg Boy (2:44)
  7. Beverly (1:20)
  8. Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
  9. You'll Float Too (3:20)
  10. Shape Shifter (1:42)
  11. Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
  12. Haircut (4:14)
  13. Derry History (2:48)
  14. January Embers (1:05)
  15. Saving Mike (1:15)
  16. This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
  17. Slideshow (2:01)
  18. Georgie's Theme (1:42)
  19. He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
  20. Neibolt Street (4:17)
  21. Time To Float (3:04)
  22. It's What It Wants (1:19)
  23. You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
  24. Return To Neibolt (2:31)
  25. Into The Well (2:05)
  26. Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
  27. Deadlights (2:04)
  28. Searching For Stanley (2:28)
  29. Saving Beverly (3:36)
  30. Georgie Found (1:53)
  31. Transformation (0:58)
  32. Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
  33. Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
  34. Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
  35. Blood Oath (3:11)
  36. Kiss (0:54)
  37. Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
  38. Epilogue - The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
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DT-2017 reply Replies: 6 || 2018-08-17 00:35:38
Interesting that nobody's mentioned the sessions leak. Pretty sure I posted a cue list but it must have been deleted.


Edmund Meinerts2018-08-17 10:28:34
Guess a sessions leak of a score that was already 90 minutes long on the original album isn't worth getting super excited for...


badbu2018-08-17 13:06:51
true...


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-17 17:51:43
"it must have been deleted."

Yes. Stop this please.


Cameron2018-08-17 18:53:45
@Hybrid I don't get it. You usually post lists anyway when stuff like this happens. Why is it such a big deal when someone else does it?


Hybrid Soldier2018-08-17 20:01:51
I haven't in a long time, you'll notice...


mpolonest1232018-08-17 20:12:31
I hope the site hasn’t gotten in any trouble for posting the lists :-(

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-28 23:41:16
Wallfisch is scoring the new Hellboy movie. Very curious what that will be!!

DT-2017 reply Replies: 1 || 2018-02-03 00:21:30
Assembling my own edit for IT, I've found at least seven cues that are different in the film:

-Georgie, Meet Pennywise (the children's choir sings "Oranges and Lemons" instead of whispering it)
-Egg Boy (Different choir performance when Ben is rifling through the book, there's less strings when Ben is chased by the headless boy)
-Mike's Fear (Seems to drop some of the orchestra and synths at the end)
-"Judith" (or "Painting Lady" if you prefer) (When Judith appears before Stan, the children's choir sings "Oranges and Lemons", before the shouting girl comes in like on the OST version. The end of the cue is choir-free)
-Slideshow (Cuts out some of the synth just before Pennywise actually comes out of the projector)
-Time To Float (Stronger percussion as Pennywise emerges from the freezer)
-Return to Niebolt (Adds in a synthetic timpani drum)
-The end credits includes another version of "Georgie, Meet Pennywise" that ends at the point where Georgie reaches into the grate.


JBSO992018-02-03 13:29:13
And in the movie, in the opening titles, after the singing kid, plays "Every 27 Years (Reprise)" and in the end credits is when "Every 27 Years" plays, but without the "Oranges and Lemons" bit.

Also, I'm interest in what your edit is? I mean, are you creating film version of some tracks, or are you mixing them together or something like that?

DT-2017 reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-12 00:26:58
Interestingly, though this score is being submitted for consideration in Awards Season, I haven't seen an FYC floating about for this one. Anybody in the know and is able to say whether the FYC is just this OST, or whether it's different in any way?


Anonymous2018-01-12 02:22:53
For years now WB has been jewing out and using the soundtrack as the FYC. Go figure that the same studio who re-releases and re-releases a harry potter collection year after year pulls this


DT-20172018-01-12 15:57:33
I guess it would depend entirely on what sort of award WB is going after. I'm told if they submit it for an Oscar, they have to present it as is heard in the film, and the OST presentation would definitely disqualify it if that's the case. (The point came up when I asked why The Last Jedi was cues taken from the film stems when somebody else suggested it wasn't because of the ease given how the film was scored)

badbu reply Replies: 2 || 2017-10-23 07:52:16
Time To Float is sooo strong :-) And a nice Scene btw :-)


CT-11382017-10-23 09:37:10
Skarsgard really nailed that scene, it was the scene which made it clear how different his Pennywise is from Tim Curry's.


badbu2017-10-23 11:06:00
yeah!!! He was amazing!!! After Dunkrik the best movie in 2017 (for me)

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2017-09-08 15:58:36
Finished with my first listen and I'm loving what I heard. Normally 80+ minutes tend to drag for me... not here. The music is consistently strong and Wallfisch is able to do something most horror composers fail at; keep the horror underscore interesting. I tend to normally get bored with horror scores when they pull the same tricks, but I found myself genuinely unnerved with the vocal effects he throws in.

As for the themes, while there are definitely no competitors for ACFW they all work extremely well. Especially when they allow for big moments of wonder or softer emotion. I'm really loving this one, not quite as much as Wellness but definitely in the same ballpark.


mpolonest123 2017-09-08 16:03:47
And am I crazy or is that Richard Bellis' theme from the miniseries in "Its What It Wants"?


Medigo2017-09-09 13:46:06
I like it'
but sweet god
dont listen to this with headphones


CT-11382017-10-22 23:34:29
mpolonest123 - definitely sounds like it might be inspired by it. I heard the "glockenspiel roll" employed by Bellis used in the track "Deadlights" as well. If these things are intentional nods, then it's pretty cool that the score at least acknowledges the past.

JBSO99 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-10-22 14:16:01
Does anyone know what tracks appear in the end credits of the movie (in case there is music, that I think it is). I think the credits open with Every 27 Years (Reprise), but I don't know what's next.
Thanks in advance for the help!


CT-11382017-10-22 23:32:47
I don't know if anybody stayed behind long enough to find out given that the only thing waiting at the end of the credits is one last Pennywise laugh and "IT: Chapter 1". I'd assume "Georgie's Theme" played next.

CT-1138 reply Replies: 5 || 2017-09-28 00:04:58
Pretty good score that fits the film very well (which, by the way, is a great film). I don't think the OST misses anything off of any significance... but it doesn't seem to be in chronological order either.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 00:23:45
Well Ben wrote more than a hundred cues for it ! Lots of very very short pieces... The OST has got everything needed indeed. As for chronlogical order, the second half is, but the first is kinda all over the place with lots of combined cues so hard to really place them, but here's what I came up with (if you don't want to start butchering every track lol) :

Every 27 Years (2:36)
Paper Boat (1:55)
Georgie, Meet Pennywise (3:38)
Derry (2:24)
Shape Shifter (1:42)
Egg Boy (2:44)
River Chase (2:09)
Hockstetter Attack (2:15)
Beverly (1:20)
Derry History (2:48)
Come Join The Clown, Eds (1:20)
Haircut (4:14)
You'll Float Too (3:20)
January Embers (1:05)
Saving Mike (1:15)
This Is Not A Dream (2:08)
Slideshow (2:01)
He Didn't Stutter Once (1:33)
Neibolt Street (4:17)
Time To Float (3:04)
It's What It Wants (1:19)
You'll Die If You Try (4:38)
Return To Neibolt (2:31)
Into The Well (2:05)
Pennywise's Tower (1:48)
The Pennywise Dance (0:36)
Deadlights (2:04)
Searching For Stanley (2:28)
Saving Beverly (3:36)
Georgie Found (1:53)
Transformation (0:58)
Feed On Your Fear (2:34)
Welcome To The Losers Club (3:05)
Yellow Raincoat (1:43)
Blood Oath (3:11)
Kiss (0:54)
Every 27 Years (Reprise) (2:07)
Georgie's Theme (1:42)

Aaaaand if you STILL want a super detailed breakdown of the beginning :

Every 27 Years
Paper Boat
Georgie, Meet Pennywise
Derry (0:20 to 1:02)
Derry (1:41 to end)
Derry (1:02 to 1:41)
Shape Shifter
Derry (0:00 to 0:21)
Egg Boy
River Chase
Hockstetter Attack
January Embers (0:00 to 0:25)
Haircut (0:00 to 0:51)
Beverly
Derry History
Come Join The Clown, Eds
Haircut (0:51 to end)
You'll Float Too
January Embers (0:25 to end)
Saving Mike
This Is Not A Dream
Slideshow
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:31 to end)
He Didn't Stutter Once (0:00 to 0:31)
21 Neibolt Street
Time To Float
It's What It Wants
You'll Die If You Try (0:51 to end)
You'll Die If You Try (0:00 to 0:51)
Return To Neibolt
Etc.


JBSO992017-09-28 09:21:45
Hundred cues! Wow! That's s lot of work on his part. I kind of like the horror pays but I would have love if he had created more tracks like Paper Boat, Beverly or Blood Oath, but I guess the movie didn't needed more. Also I hope will be brought back to score the second chapter so he can use some of his themes and develop them.

PS: Hybrid, thanks for the chrono tracklist!


CT-11382017-09-28 11:24:26
Thanks for the breakdown :)

It's nice to know the second half is in order, though I think "The Pennywise Dance" should go before "Deadlights" since it plays as Pennywise does the 'old man jig'.


Hybrid Soldier2017-09-28 11:58:54
That... is what I wrote ! lol


CT-11382017-09-28 12:02:54
Oops, you already chronologically placed "The Pennywise Dance"! My bad!

Waymann reply Replies: 0 || 2017-09-07 16:10:43
The samples sound great. Blood Oath's going be a favorite. Sounds like an emotional score.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 1 || 2017-08-24 18:31:35
So excited for this!!!! :D

If it's anything on the same level as A Cure For Wellness then bring it on!


David2017-08-25 02:21:43
Me too! A Cure For Wellness was great!

Mikes reply Replies: 0 || 2017-08-25 00:39:04
Yawn

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