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Yeah, 30-ish seconds into Do You Bleed?"Reminiscent Therapy" is amazing in the way it incorporates a lot of Williams' classic stuff making it feel very natural and organic, like it's part Powell's themes, like he does with "The Adentures of Han".<br><br>This is a really great scoreHe is the chosen one, the one who will bring balance to the film music world...Thats just 'do you bleed?' with a small insert?Haha, It's as the prophecy foretold.
John Powell, the great uniter of film music fans@MrZimmerFan<br><br>I actually like Rogue One, and I do understand why it leans so heavily on the original themes. Here the themes are incorporated more as fan service, but Powell is able to do wonders with interpolating them with his material. <br><br>And something I forgot to mention, this score reminds me so much of Pan in the action sequences. The percussion and brass writing is great lolim surprised how Powell uses his ANTZ percussion in this!<br><br>The track Train Heist, Into The Maw is good example of it.<br><br>This is the only score that will please the gang at JW and HZ alike.When JWFan and HZ.com are discussing the same score....'but not as heavily as Rogue One'<br><br>Because Rogue One have conections with certain aspects or characters from the OT?<br><br>An here you have a track with three themes (or cues) with no conections with the OT, Rogue One have more sense... but the score is fricking awesome :)
So first impressions:<br><br>JP knocked this one out of the park! The whole score has this excellent swashbuckling vibe, which is surprisingly aggressive during the action sequences (entirely due to his trademark percussion).<br><br>The writing style is really interesting, itís basically John Powell doing his usual style but with some Williams flourishes, especially during the softer cues. The Star Wars themes do return, but not as heavily as Rogue One. And of course the JW cue is great, although surprisingly structured more as an action cue as opposed to a concert suite.<br><br>And for some reason the Han theme sounds vaguely similar to Poeís theme from Force Awakens.Letís just say ďReminiscience TherapyĒ.... hold onto your seats! ;-)This score is awesome!! Powell did a great job at making a score that's differet than all the other SW scores, but still you know it's a SW score. He reprised Williams' theme brilliantly and I can't stop to listen to it!!!what about the music when batman makes it back to the cave and lex opens the case of kryptonite. cant find it in theseYeah I can't agree that Inception or Interstellar are superior pieces of scoring. Certainly not in structure, thematic development, etc. <br><br>What defined those scores is the vision behind them more so than the execution. In so many ways, that is opposite of The World's End. Interstellar is a brilliant score that managed to provide each scene with a simplistic tone, but one that captured the atmosphere behind the scenes perfectly, such as the unique use of the organ. Same with Inception with the guitars. <br><br>With a World's End, the vision is nothing special. It is a rock and roll twist to classic music. But the execution brings enormous power and gravitas to the movie.<br><br>I would sum it up by saying that in Interstellar and Inception, the creation of the music drives the movie's ideas while in At World's End, the movie drives the creation of the music.
Nazg&#251;l for Azog I will never forgive. It's not a Servant of Sauron theme, it's a Ringwraith theme, and Azog's not a Ringwraith, he's a goddam Orc, and that theme doesn't belong there, full stop. It was just put there because it sounds "epic" and would "pump up the action scene". Gondor Restored at the end is just as stupid. And the Dreaming of Bag End theme for Bilbo is indeed lovely, and would have been lovelier still if it actually appeared in the movie. Instead it just gets replaced by copy/pasted Hobbit music from LOTR instead because Peter Jackson desperately wants his audience to remember how good those movies were in lieu of the Hobbit ones being any good on their own. Needless to say it goes missing entirely from the second and third score...along with the Misty Mountains melody (the strongest theme of the first one). I still really like those scores overall but they got absolutely butchered in terms of their thematic usage in the films. Then again those movies were an absolute clusterfuck so I shouldn't be surprised.<br><br>WRT Harry Potter, the 3 note theme does work okay for Voldemort, except that there's already a longer, separate Voldemort theme in Philosopher's, one that I like even more, and which only gets used once in Chamber (when Riddle rearranges the letters). I can understand liking Chamber better than Philosopher when you compare the albums, but in terms of the complete scores there's no contest at all, Philosopher wins by a country mile because of Chamber's rehash issues (and there are some good cues missing from the album, such as the Troll and Forbidden Forest scenes).@Edmund<br>The thing with the Nolan scores (at least Interstellar/Inception) is that they are repetitive, in as much as being built heavily around the suites that Iím guessing they use to edit and temp the film. <br>And while the themes are simple I do think they are structured in a unique enough way which builds emotional resonance through the gradual increase in chords/volume/speed/etc. Even Dunkirk is a relatively simple score theme wise, but is so technically complex.<br><br>And personally Iíve never been in love with Inception. I admire it on a technical level, but outside of ďTimeĒ I find it to be a fairly cold score. Obviously what it was meant to do so not a complaint, more of a personal preference thing.You know, I actually like Chamber of Secrets much more than Philosopher's Stone. It has the best moments from that score with improved themes. (I actually like the 3 note motif for Voldemort better than it being used for the stone, it already sounded like the Sith theme from Star Wars so might as well go all the way with it.) It felt more tight, better paced, and had an overall more energetic feel to it.<br><br>The Hobbit, I'm not entirely sure where you're getting heartbreaking from. If you mean the state of its release I absolutely agree, if you're talking about its reprisals the only one I had any issue with was the Return of the King/Gondor Restored theme which had nothing to do with Thorin and Bilbo's relationship. <br><br>The Nazghul theme being used for Azog I thought was fine as he was a servant of Sauron in the movies, History of the Ring and Gollum's themes were used effectively, and the new thematic material for the first film, I thought was wonderful. The themes A Baggins of Bag-End and The Lonely Mountain song being used as a Fellowship type of theme are the greatest highlights for me.See, I don't find Inception or Interstellar (or Thin Red Line) all that "complex". Especially not compared to At World's End (how many themes are in that score, like 15? 20? Pretty much all of which show up in rapid succession during the Maelstrom battle?). The Nolan scores are more about building up around very simple conceptual ideas.<br><br>Unless you're talking about emotional complexity, which is a very different thing and not really possible to objectively judge...You know, I don't think I've ever really gotten the full story surrounding that score. I've heard conflicting reports. My personal belief is that Ross did little to no substantial composition and that all the new stuff (themes, suites, new cues and also significantly fresh arrangements of old material) is pure Williams, but that film is full of reused music from the first film (it's actually quite frustrating, not as bad as On Stranger Tides or as heartbreaking as The Hobbit, but a bit of a rehashy mess and it makes the key error of using the Philosopher's Stone motif as a Voldemort theme). That's where I think Ross comes in and was responsible for taking those cues verbatim from the first film and tweaking/rearranging them just enough to match the timings of the scenes without actually adding any of his "own" notes. His role is likely somewhere between additional music, arrangement and music editing (but as Hybrid likes to point out, oftentimes those sorts of roles are really blurred and overlapping anyways).<br><br>A guy at jwfan did an analysis that helps understand the nature of that score, but be warned, it goes *really* deep:<br><br>www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/27619-finished-chamber -of-secrets-thematic-and-originality-analysis/
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The Crown (TV Series - Season 2)
Label: Sony Classical
Length: 59'23
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  1. Bounden Duty (3:37)
  2. Dismissed (3:41)
  3. The Downfall (6:20)
  4. Homesick (3:42)
  5. Your Majesty (4:15)
  6. Headlines (4:26)
  7. Radio Speech (3:52)
  8. Future King (2:23)
  9. Christmas Message (3:59)
  10. New Guinea Match (1:58)
  11. We Shall Go To War (2:19)
  12. Be My Portrait (2:39)
  13. Philip's Dream (3:01)
  14. Princess Margaret (3:03)
  15. Critical Article (1:25)
  16. I Have No Choice (3:29)
  17. A New Chapter (1:57)
  18. Bring Him Home (3:09)
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Ian reply Replies: 0 || 2018-03-18 21:02:48
I'm surprised to have not seen more discussion of this score; I honestly think it represents some of the best music out of RCP in the past half-decade. Yeah, it still has the Journey to the Line / Time four-chord power anthem thing going on, but outside of those themes you have some really creative material that at times doesn't even feel stylistically RCP, and hell, even those structurally-simplistic themes are unusually well-orchestrated. And there's a real orchestra!

Andreas reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-19 11:11:02
New score by Rupert Gregson-Williams from the series The Alienist will be release next week.


Balfe2018-02-23 15:05:01
How much excitement here is there for this? These two composers must have hit out of the trash bin this time.


Stephan 2018-02-23 16:37:01
Rupert Is an asking composer as well as Lorne. This guy must be the Stop RCP ring leader

superultramegaa reply Replies: 19 || 2017-12-10 14:12:22
I'm going to try and add a little criticism to this one. I personally don't really see what's so great about this. The first track, and I was already thinking "Oh, it's the Bumblebee theme again. Not the AllSpark variation, but the slow, calm part." The underscore doesn't change at all, and I feel like stuff like this has been done better by people like James Newton Howard and Alexandre Desplat.

However, good for you guys for finding something interesting in it. Maybe I'm just spoiled on Desplat and Newton Howard.


Mephariel2017-12-10 18:32:50
I agree. The score feels so flat, and we hear stuff like this many times over already.


James2017-12-11 10:09:49
meh. That's your opinion. I agree with the fact of that the score is not interesting, but not to the point of wanting Howard or deplat as composers. This is inviable. Their niche is another.


Andrea2017-12-11 14:14:39
Desplat! Iím only 5 episodes in but Iím happy he didnít do it. This season is very entertaining and the score is so strong .


Brent2017-12-11 17:29:22
On its own merits, the score may not be particularly interesting. HOWEVER, I think it works perfectly within the series. I definitely wouldn't want Newton Howard or Desplat a part of this.


Olive2017-12-11 18:20:00
Howard and Desplat are A list composers anyway.


Andreas2017-12-13 08:41:39
Was this score recorded with a real orchestra? Sometimes it sounds like it comes straight from a computer. Like Your Majesty for example. Lorne uploaded 2 unreleased tracks btw.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-13 11:52:29
I haven't heard it yet, but the majority of Balfe's scores are done with samples so I wouldn't be surprised at all


Mike2017-12-13 16:09:05
Edmund wrong again !!!!!balfe posted some photos of the recording sessions for the crown


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-13 23:11:35
I stand corrected. Though it's still possible that the score is a combination of live orchestra and samples, a lot of RCP music does that.


Peter782017-12-14 19:43:02
I am really enjoying his season of the Crown.a big balfe influence in this season with hints of Churchil and Genius I think. Really excellent music


Geoff2017-12-15 10:18:08
Just started watching this season and the music is spot on especially the Princess Margaret episode. Gregson-Williams and Balfe have create a great score to this season.more intamint and emotional than before


Gleyn2017-12-15 12:14:15
This score is BRILLIANT.


Pablo2017-12-15 16:32:50
Your Majesty is addictive and could listen to this also day long.Was Theme is last year ?


Pal882017-12-15 17:15:37
Music is royal and grand and the show is very good. Looking forward to more seasons


AndrewBilling2017-12-15 23:05:42
Very impressed with the music from this season. Enjoying listening to it.there doesnít seem to be much of the main theme used ?


Martine2017-12-16 16:47:15
The show is very good.we managed to watch the show in two days!the music by Gregson-Williams and Balfe is perfect. The score is some of the best TV music at the moment.going to defiantly buy the album now and see what itís like


AndyP72017-12-16 19:27:34
Bring Him Home and Future King are great


Guatav82017-12-18 13:06:26
The Downfall is 6 minutes of perfection.I can not stop listening to it


shaniah2018-01-08 20:09:47
thank you i love the show

TK2000 reply Replies: 11 || 2017-12-26 12:23:31
Watched The Crown on christmas and and really noticed the music this season more than the last.You can definitely hear Balfes influence.the music for Princess Margaret is perfection


BrianFilm822017-12-26 12:24:46
Be My Portrait is beautiful


StevenMK2017-12-26 12:34:03
The series has an interesting mixture of styles with orchestral and electronic that make the show not feel dated even though it is a period drama.Bouden Duty has to be by Balfe.he really has finally started to find his own unique voice.


MikelK2017-12-26 16:42:38
Itís great binge watching over Christmas !!!!!a fantastic score by them both.what did Zimmer have to do with this season?


james (now james callahan)2017-12-26 19:37:45
Music by Rupert Gregson-Williams & Lorne Balfe
Main Theme by Hans Zimmer

Produced by Hans Zimmer
Album Produced by Rupert Gregson-Williams & Lorne Balfe


AndyP2017-12-26 22:54:51
Thanks for the credits. Basically Balfe and Gregson-Williams did it all then!! The Downfall is a brilliant track and features heavily in the episode


ArranFilmGeek2017-12-27 03:14:40
I find the blend of the orchestra and the synths different and quirky.Hints of Genius and Churchil in this score also but defiantly best tv score this year


AndrePM2017-12-27 14:36:08
Dismissed , Bring Him Home, Philips Dream are some of the best tracks on the album


Andrew2017-12-28 15:18:23
Really great soundtrack


Marcus2017-12-28 22:26:51
Great season with a great score


BBoles2017-12-30 02:47:36
So does anyone know who did what ?Its fantastic music and interested to know


AndreaK2017-12-30 10:22:31
Sounds very Balfe with hints of His Genius

Scot reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-21 23:18:28
Great soundtrack to a cool show. The music brings a lot of tension to the show and make it feel modern and not traditional.amazing team having Gregson-Williams and Balfe though

Michael reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-18 18:42:47
This seasons score is very good and feels more meaningful and thought provoking that last years.Much more development of the famous Duck Shoot and also more individual character lead themes.Excellent and hope it wins some awards this year

Andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-18 16:47:21
Anyone who knows how many "unreleased" tracks Lorne Balfe is going to post on Youtube. There already four of them. Why are they not included on the soundtrack? They sound amazing.

superultramegaa reply Replies: 5 || 2017-12-11 21:39:38
First, the "that's just your opinion" statement has no merit whatsoever. It's nothing but dismissive and disrespectful.

Second, maybe I should have specified. I don't think Desplat/Howard should have worked on this, I just think they've had scores that have done this style of score better (string focused, European sounding scores).

I am aware they are not TV composers. (Besides maybe Series of Unfortunate Events).


Jonathan2017-12-11 22:24:27
I think itís better than Desplat . BUT it doesnít matter.its whatís best for the show not who the better composer is !Crown score is fantastic and emotional . And perfect to images


JamesT2017-12-12 02:31:37
Personally, I am loving it!


WillFil2017-12-12 11:30:55
Hope this show never ends. Balfe and Gregson-Williams score fits in perfectly


Anahil2017-12-12 13:48:01
Beautiful music and very powerful I have been listening to the soundtrack constantly


Bharom2017-12-13 00:57:53
Cool music and original

Mortifer V. reply Replies: 1 || 2017-12-09 21:21:58
This is great. Probably even better than season 1.


Mike2017-12-10 01:18:13
Amazing soundtrack

JP1980 reply Replies: 7 || 2017-12-07 23:23:26
Wow !!! Rupert Gregsonís Williams and Lorne Balfe . Two of the best RCP composers in a long time


Tom2017-12-08 01:34:23
Totally agree


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-08 12:06:39
They've both been around for a while, hell RGW was working already in the late 90s!


Peter 2017-12-08 14:10:05
Edmund is as negative as ever !!! Always has to make some dumb put down comment.I purchased the soundtrack this morning and loving it.Stunning


Olive2017-12-08 14:51:07
RGW was the first RCP composer with who Balfe worked.


Edmund Meinerts2017-12-08 14:55:48
I'm not being negative. I'm correcting a false statement. OP made it sound like these were some fresh new talents on the scene when they've been around for ages. I could say that Hans Zimmer is the best RCP composer in a long time as well, but that would be a patently ridiculous statement for exactly the same reasons.

Just because I'm one of maybe three people around here who doesn't constantly gush like some fanboy on YouTube (especially about Lorne Balfe this year for some reason), now I'm suddenly dumb and negative?


AndyP2017-12-08 16:41:31
Edmund - relax.You should just start a John Powell forum and only read and write in that.some of us are simply loving others music and enjoying their work.


APerer2017-12-09 17:55:11
Better than season 1.unique music and great.

... reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-08 20:11:11
Hybrid, why isn't Hans credited here? He said in an interview after the tour that he was working on the Crown season 2...


Iamtommie2017-12-08 23:03:17
When the intro in episode 1 started I heard some sort of extra dark percussion near the end. Maybe a worked on his Main Title again.
Maybe not.


Ian2017-12-09 02:32:27
I wouldn't be remotely surprised if Hans did some ghostwriting on this, or if he at least gave some ideas to Rupert and Lorne.


Michael2017-12-09 16:29:07
Really good score from them both .hope they work together again

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 2 || 2017-12-08 12:23:24
I don't know why lorne balfe involved here there is nothing new in this release just some edit for the previous score!
I got it yesterday.


MikMusid2017-12-08 14:40:17
Which tracks are from season one ?im listening now and only hear the original theme once ?


AndyG2017-12-08 14:45:12
Bring Him Home is so fantastic.most of this soundtrack belongs in an epic movie.philipís Dream is 100% .two great composers

Bob reply Replies: 1 || 2017-12-08 09:22:02
Sounds great. All previous themes are back in a different way, very good and never boring !


Andy2017-12-08 10:26:00
Really fantastic score . Already watched 2 episodes and the soundtrack is breathtaking

MusicAndy reply Replies: 4 || 2017-12-06 16:53:25
Any news about music yet


AndreaM2017-12-06 18:36:53
Film music reporter has the album info but no audio examples.i though Thisnsite would have some samples ?


Anonymous2017-12-07 03:19:53
it's been cancelled due to Clint Mansell being replaced by Lorne Balfe LOL


Andreas2017-12-07 19:30:25
The score will be released tomorrow, samples soundgreat. Only the artwork is meh... they used the same one of season 1 only with white background...


Bibi2017-12-07 20:34:38
Got it. 18 tracks/59mn.

Peter reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-06 13:55:56
How come there is no music released yet ???

Christopher reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-06 00:10:06
Hybrid ???? Any of the music yet

Quintin reply Replies: 0 || 2017-12-05 18:07:17
Is there any examples of the score yet ?

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2017-11-26 23:39:37
Yeeees!! Love the Score from the 1st Season

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