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Hans Zimmer is one of the biggest film composers working in the industry today. He won an Academy Award for his work on The Lion King, and has been nominated for six other films including Gladiator, The Thin Red Line, and As Good As It Gets. With The Last Samurai he celebrates his 100th film score, and SoundtrackNet had an opportunity to talk with Hans a few weeks ago during a rare break in his busy schedule working on Something's Gotta Give.<br><br>You've scored many projects during your career, and The Last Samurai is being touted as your 100th film score…<br><br>Well, I'm terrible with math, so I'm not doing the counting. It could be more, it could be less – but apparently it's the 100th.<br><br>So how did you get involved with the project?<br><br>If you're lucky enough to get nominated for an Oscar, you get invited to the Oscar nominee's luncheon where they hand out these little nomination certificates. There are usually 150 people standing there, and people are invited up in alphabetical order, starting with the As. By the time they get to the Cs, everybody's already back at their table chatting and eating, and while the first people called get thunderous applause, you can imagine what it's like when your name starts with Z!<br><br>So Ed Zwick and I were standing there, waiting at one of these luncheons about four years ago, and we started talking to each other. I asked him what he was working on and he told me about this movie called The Last Samurai, which I thought sounded interesting and I asked him to send me a script. After the script arrived, I didn't hear from him for a long time and I thought he'd forgotten about me, not thinking about how difficult it is to set up a samurai movie these days. The other thing I liked about the project was that Tom Cruise was involved, so it was like returning home, since I've scored a bunch of his movies – I knew we were going to have a good time.<br><br>Did it end up that way?<br><br>Ed and his editor Steve Rosenblum are such gentlemen, so together and professional, and they basically did one cut of the film, screened it, and everyone loved their work. So after this, they had plenty of time to come and hang with me, and while I usually love the re-cutting process because it's a diversionary tactic to keep the director and editor out of my life, these guys were great to have around. <br><br>Of course, my sense of paranoia made me think that something was going wrong all the time, waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were, but it never happened. Ed phoned this morning and I thought, "Oh my god – rewrite!" It's just how my brain works. But I think he and I feel a bit odd now: we've been seeing each other every day for months, and suddenly we're done. I completely understand why people have a problem finishing a movie, because there's something really nice about the process – completion is far more boring.<br><br>For Samurai, you used Japanese percussions and ethnic woodwinds, without getting too 'Japanese'.<br><br>My problem is that I feel Japanese music is really inaccessible to Western ears, and I was really struggling with this film initially, trying to figure out what I was doing. This idea popped into my head for using Western-style themes, but applying a Japanese aesthetic to them, which sounds great of course, until I had to ask myself what I meant! Actually, I think it's just my way of not overloading certain things with too many colors, or being geometrically precise about my cues and not making them too flowery.<br><br>The Tom Cruise character is one of those nasty drunks at the beginning, who obviously has some serious problems he's trying to deal with, or not deal with. He's obnoxious and restless, suffering sleepless nights and is very un-Tom. For me, this character's journey was about his need to earn tranquility and peace, so within the score there's this very romantic, overblown and passionate theme. It's like a juvenile way of dealing with life and death – the pain and liebestod.<br><br>However, to contrast with these very relentless themes, there are a number of stark, formal and sober pieces, because I wanted to take Tom's character on a journey. He comes from America and ends up in this foreign place where he doesn't speak the language or understand the culture. But at the end of the movie, I want the audience to think that there isn't a more beautiful place for him to be, that he is at home in Japan and finally at peace.<br><br>There are many useless acts of bravery we do out of misguided romanticism, and this movie is full of courageous and dignified acts of bravery. So I wanted to play off these acts, since both the American and Japanese cultures have a concept of heroism, and I just wanted to see if I could play with the nature of the two different concepts.<br><br>So you didn't want to do the stereotypical Japanese thing...<br><br>Absolutely not! Take Akira Kurosawa's Ran, for example, which has this brilliant score where Takemitsu writes Western music, but with an Eastern accent. Somebody asked me a few days ago why As Good As It Gets was European – why did I write a European score for a quintessentially American story? For me, it's because Jack Nicholson was crazy in the movie, and I felt one of the great things about America is how they always think we Europeans are crazy. So by writing a European-styled score, it's my way of saying that Jack is crazy, but it's alright!<br><br>How do you feel about people who criticize your work for not fitting into the time period, like Gladiator?<br><br>The reason I take these jobs is because I'm interested in foreign cultures, and every time I get to work on a movie I'm thrown into the adventure of whatever that culture is, the time, and wherever the story's taking place. So one of the things I'm very careful about is not to be historically correct to the culture, but, on the other hand, not to insult the underlying aesthetics of that culture either. I remember watching Chariots of Fire and thinking how brilliantly the music worked, never missing that it wasn't period instruments! I grew up listening to Bach played by a symphony orchestra – it's the wrong sized orchestra with the wrong instruments, but I don't think that's the point.<br><br>With Gladiator, Pietro Scalia brought in a CD saying "this is Ancient Roman music," and I said, "Says who? You went to the Ancient Roman music store and bought an Ancient Roman music CD? Bullshit!" We're not anthropologists. Look at he costumes Ridley Scott had: they were more Napoleonic than Roman, which was perhaps fitting since Napoleon had stolen all of his good ideas from the Romans regarding how to make his generals look cool – and so did Hitler! So I got criticized for making the "Entry into Rome" cue too Leni Riefenstahl – but that was the joke! I am allowed to have a sense of humor in my music!<br><br>Earlier this summer your credit on Pirates of the Caribbean was "Score Overproduced by". What was the deal with that?<br><br>Well, I thought honesty was a virtue! But seriously, Jerry Bruckheimer quite rightly asked me not to give him "that old-fashioned Pirate music," and Gore Verbinski, who I adore and did The Ring with, said, "Well, it is a pirate movie, so we have to disguise it." In the end, I spent a day and a half writing tunes, Klaus Badelt wrote a lot of stuff, and we rolled up our sleeves, got drunk, behaved in a debauched way, and produced a score!<br><br>There was a lot of criticism regarding that score, but in the end it had to serve the film - which it did. You seem to get a lot of criticism on any project you do.<br><br>I had the misfortune of going onto the Film Score Monthly web site recently to look something up and vanity made me type in my own name. I suddenly realized that you can't ever get it right. Who do people want me to be? The guy that writes Matchstick Men? Or the guy that writes The Rock? Or the guy that writes Driving Miss Daisy? My need is ultimately to write for myself. I mock myself and I'm ironic about the way I speak about it because if I take it too seriously, it would be a pompous and boring thing to do. But at the same time I take each note I write very seriously – none of them are random.<br><br>The Internet Movie Database always lists you as being attached to multiple projects, so I was curious, what's Sharktail?<br><br>I complained to Jeffrey Katzenberg that I couldn't cross any more Red Seas, or deal with any more horses that can't speak – I wanted to do one of the fun animated movies instead. There's also a hip-hop element in Sharktail, and I haven't been there yet, so it's new territory! King Arthur is still in production, and I literally just got the first bits of footage just before you came here.<br><br>Are you working on all of these projects simultaneously?<br><br>I'm thinking about them! I'm also working with Jim Brooks on his new comedy, Spanglish.<br><br>And speaking of comedies, you recently did Matchstick Men for Ridley, which had a very Nino Rota vibe to it....<br><br>And I gave him credit! I thought, what if Nino had written the theme and I was just doing the variations? But I bet I'm going to get criticized for that because it's not like Gladiator.<br><br>So when did you last have a vacation?<br><br>Well, I went to Japan for a couple of days at the end of November for the Japanese premiere of Samurai, but look, I love what I do! In January I'll travel to Morocco because Ridley will be shooting his next movie, Kingdom of Heaven, so that's like a holiday!<br><br>My family and I are going away at Christmas, and what we used to do would be to rent a house in the mountains and go on these skiing holidays. It would be a crappy house, not as nice as the one we live in, my wife was still going to the market, and we're still washing our plates – so it wasn't a vacation, it was a lot of work! It's taken us a long time, but we just figured it out: we're not practical with vacations – we're staying at hotels! But while the Zimmer family isn't talented when it comes to vacations, we're talented when it comes to work!<br><br>I sat through Samurai the other day, and for the first time watched the whole movie from top to tail with everything finished and completed. It felt really good, better than a vacation. But luckily there were enough things wrong for me to think that I learned something from the experience, and now I can't wait for the next project to try these new ideas out.<br><br>The soundtrack to The Last Samurai is available from Elektra Records, and the film is currently in theaters. Matchstick Men is available on Varese Sarabande Records.<br><br>With thanks to Chet Mehta at Chasen & Co, Jason Cienkus at Warner Brothers, and Nina Lynch and Mark Wherry at Media Ventures for helping with this interview. And, of course, special thanks to Hans.Mulan get his release... through Disney+, 4th September.Mulan is being released on sept 4th. Can't wait to hear Harry's score!!!!Here's an interview about Last Samurai from Soundtrack.net https: //www.soundtrack. net/content/article/?id=112You can find an interview with Hans on his process for TLS on soundtrack.net somewhere, back in 2003 or 2004
The tracklist they posted has 58 tracks and yours contains only 54<br>interesting thing, He never really spoke about Last Samurai. but you have to realize, even when He speaks, its not always the truth. <br><br>The only thing I know, in 2013 doing press for Rush, He really said the hardest job was Last Samurai, well its not true according to himself, if you watch the behind the scenes stuff from Matchstick Men from 2003, right there He says that he was working on 3 huge films, (tears of the sun / Pirates / last samurai) and Mathstick men was the absolute hardest for him.<br><br>also Ed Zwick talks about working with Hans on the dvd commentary sometimes, but nothing really fancy.<br><br>Im sure there is an interview for this film with him, since he was at the premierI am struggling to find an interview where Hans speaks about this soundtrack. Does it even exist? <br>I spent the last hours digging but nothing. I always desired to hear some comments about it, like he does for the other works he's done.<br>I know it's a far stretch for Hans To release docu scores, but am really curious as to what Brave Miss World, Believer and Jalous of the Birds sound like...<br><br><br>@Mephariel<br>You can find Great Bear Rainforest on bleedingfingersmusic.com under Anze RozmanMondo only offered to send me a return label and a refund. No info yet on if they plan to fix it. :-/
Mine arrived today and is definitely sped up.LOL klaus badelt hardly composed pirates 1You know what? I love the booklet credits! Klaus Badelt is the same guy who scored Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.Thanks Hybrid soldier for the good news<br>I can't wait to see the documental film and hear the score of lorne balfe & hans zimmer.A score will be released.<br><br>You can always count on Lorne for that. It's in the works.
What was the last Zimmer documentary score that they released outside of BBC? <br><br>I am still waiting for The Great Bear Rainforest.I hope they can the soundtrack release for "Rebuilding Paradise" composed by Hans zimmer & Lorne balfe, including an original song for the film. I hope there is a possibility that they will release the score.How to get this at all?Any news about Rebuilding Paradise soundtrack?@Hybrid:<br>Any news about a release for Ron Howard "Rebuilding Paradise" soundtrack by Hans ans Lorne. The documentary airing today. Any info will be much Appreciated.
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Scorefan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-03-09 23:04:42
@Hybrid, will you create the page for Hurricane heist?

Hybrid Soldier2018-03-09 23:18:14
Of course, slight technical issue that needs to be fixed...

... reply Replies: 1 || 2018-03-08 23:31:01
So The Hurricane Heist will get an album release! I am surprised
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...2018-03-08 23:34:20
and the album comes out tomorrow

Balfe reply Replies: 55 || 2018-02-22 15:22:31
Hey you guys.

Balfe is a trailer composer not someone who composes real scores. He helps Hans out on his projects and occasionally may have a good idea. He is not an artist, simple as that.

Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty. The epitome of that is Terminator Genisys that even fans of the franchise found embarassing (and that is for a series based on synth scores). The samples are especially abhorrent

How he climbed to compose music for real films is a mystery. Go back to one of his earliest scores, the 2009 'score' for Ironclad, to find how utterly disappointing his work has been all the way throughout his career.

Balfe is a hack. He will never be considered a real composer. The industry knows Hans is pushing him and once that attention goes somewhere else, as it does with Hans frequently, Balfe will be immediately forgotten. Tell me - who actually wants a Lorne Balfe score for their film!!

You rapid fans supporting his work will be laughed at as being idiotic symbiotic followers. Get a fragging grip.

Balfe is not a composer.


...2018-02-22 16:03:11
Balfe is not a composer, but still he gets to compose dozens of films and shows every single year, wow. He must be doing something good if he is on of the most busiest composers out there, don´t you think? Or you want to tell me that every producer, director or whoever hires him is deaf? Do you know how many films had to be re-scored by Balfe in the past few years?


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-22 16:03:34
Guys, I know a lot of you probably think I'm an overly critical snob, but next time you do, just remember this guy and realize how much worse I could be. :p

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-22 16:05:32
Eh, Mr. Ellipsis, I have to take issue with your appeal to popularity. Justin Bieber sells millions of records. That doesn't make his music good. Last year's piece of crap pointless Beauty and the Beast remake made a frankly terrifying amount of money at the box office. Doesn't stop it being a piece of crap.

isildur2018-02-22 16:46:49
LOL. I guess this "Balfe" guy is one of those trolls from Stop RCP group.

Andy2018-02-22 17:20:45
These comments by “Balfe” are comical.god knows where such venom comes from . Maybe an ex employee probably.he was correct on one point .He is indeed a trailer composer.He just did the mission impossible trailer!!!

Hybrid Soldier2018-02-22 18:43:18
lol it's too funny the guy even spent the time of typing all this...

Some people apparently have very boring lives on this planet !

Backbiter2018-02-22 21:09:18

"Listen to the 'scores' he composed. At best, marginal efforts in sound libraries, they are just utterly shitty."

Blackwood might want to have a word with you.

Ian2018-02-23 03:40:28
Okay, so I'm not a fan of Balfe's; I think it's objectively the case that much of his music is very, very similar to work he's already done (seriously, how many times has he made obviously variations of Journey to the Line / Time?). However, his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO, not sure how one could expect more than that. Ironclad is actually a good example of this

Michael2018-02-23 07:25:19
Ian - do you honestly think Genius or Churchill are no good !!!!!this site is so weird.when people slag of Balfe it’s okay but we dare say he is actually good then people get mad about it .Bit pathetic.The guy has been nominated twice for an Emmy so can’t be that bad!Haters give it a rest and get a life please and let us fans just enjoy the music

Kingfannypack is the Milfcommander2018-02-23 08:15:38
Listen to Ghost in the Shell. If you can come back here with a straight face and call Balfe a musical hack makes you a baboon humping cuck-monger. Balfe's talent and contribution is so incredibly apparent. If you can't hear that, you couldn't hear a dump truck drive through a nitroglycerin plant.

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-23 11:47:18
Michael, why the fuck are you having a go at Ian when he literally said in the comment above yours "his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO"? People aren't complaining about you fanboys for liking Balfe's work, they're complaining about you flying off the rails about nothing.

"He's been nominated for awards so he must be good" - worst argument ever.

Mike2018-02-23 13:59:45
Edmund give it a rest .We all get the point that you don’t think Balfe is great but go away and listen to How To Train Your Dragon on loop.You come off very childish.Therenis nothing wrong with the argument about the Emmys either.You May not like it because it shows you thoughts are in the minority......thankfully.most importantly ——/ Happy Birthday Meastro

Andreas2018-02-23 14:20:53
“why the fuck are you having a go at Ian”

Edmund just chill !!!!!!!!

In other news ... Happy Birthday Balfe

Edmundo2018-02-23 14:35:50
Having your name in the credits does not mean you have been artistically involved. The Lorne Balfe empty monicker now translates to this message: 'cheap Zimmer emulation Zimmer was not bothered to do but sent his coffee boy to look after. There is no orchestra, samples are from 2002 as recent ones cost actual money.'

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-23 14:56:43
I defend a guy who is being a rare voice of moderation around here and now I'm the childish one. That about sums up the readership at this site. At least, a significant proportion of it. I didn't even say anything about whether I like Balfe or not. I actually do like him a fair amount. But anything short of God-worship and mass human sacrifice at the holy feet of the Mighty Lorne is insufficiently devout for the likes of you guys, huh?

Again, attempting any sort of nuanced discussion is a total waste of time around here these days.

AndyFilmfan2018-02-23 16:08:34
Edmund — move on you.You are boring with these dull comments

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-23 16:17:32
At least I don't change my name every time I post.

Backbiter2018-02-23 16:26:27
Shots Fired!!

AndyFilmFan2018-02-23 16:33:07
Edmund haven’t you got a job! How come you have so much time to be writing demoralizing and negative comments .At least my excuse is im at “class” !!!!!

PeterM2018-02-23 20:40:52
Happy Birthday Maestro

Mike (OTM)2018-02-23 21:26:59
Lorne Balfe is good, many times. Lorne Balfe isn't the best composer ever.

There. I said my opinion. xD

superultramegaa2018-02-24 00:15:41
Jesus Christ, what a mess! What is wrong with you Balfe fanboys? Edmund comes in trying to settle down the situation and add some nuance and you just curse him out? He even admits to liking Lorne, basically states how the top comment is far too harsh, defends Balfe, and all he does against him is call out Michael for borderline bullying someone else into worshiping Balfe.

After all of that, all you can possibly say in response to him is "go away you John Powell fanboy"? For saying one thing against a guy basically being a mindless fanboy. Which by the way is an unbelievably poor argument because I've seen Edmund criticize Powell scores before. Is Edmund not aloud to prefer Powell? He didn't even bring his music up once in this discussion! Oh no I can see the responses now...

"superultramegoo go listen to Transformers 5 for the 50th time.we dont need youre stupidumb comments here !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Balfe has won many awardso tyou cant say any thing bad about him you Jablonsky fnaboy.stop with these demoralizing comments.!

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-24 00:59:08
Appreciate the voice of support. :)

Andy 2018-02-24 01:06:38
The point is Edmund and others don’t need to keep getting upset about Balfes success.Dont reply and just focus on other conversations.No one here is interested in hearing anyone bashing any of the great composers on this site from Remote. Grow up or move on.

Miguel2018-02-24 01:08:44
Agreed

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-24 02:01:48
There you go again, accusing me of being upset about Balfe's success when I never said anything like that. Stop putting words in my mouth.

Miguel2018-02-24 02:12:04
Can we please change the subject !!!!!!!!it is so boring now.This page is ment to be about the sound track to 12 Strong

HunterTech2018-02-24 02:48:15
Upset about success? Sounds like someone doesn't know a thing about reasonable criticism. :p

If anyone likes Balfe, then good on them. I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world. Especially if people are still gonna be excited about hearing the work of someone else when a different person is hired (i.e. what JL might've been).

Pete2018-02-24 03:12:58
Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject

superultramegaa2018-02-24 03:34:20
"Boring . Talk about the actual soundtrack or change the subject."

Ok, so someone else gets us on this topic, an arguement occurs, and NOW, only when you've realized you're losing the arguement, do you decide that this page is only for 12 strong. Which it's not. This is a forum we talk about whatever we want here.

But what a childish and pathetic attempt at avoiding our points. Just dismissively saying "Boring! Change the subject! My ears can't handle this criticism!!! Wah, wah, wah!" I guarantee you the next step after this is going to be petty cursing.

Pete2018-02-24 03:48:11
No need for petty cursing .

We can discuss the soundtrack instead !

Forgotten is cool track.It’s definitely one of Bay’s best movies. Wish he would make more drama based film obvious with some action. Can’t cope with more robots ! The ending of the film is so emotional and this track gave goosebumps at the end. Did sound very similar to the end of The Last Knight

rockhound2018-02-24 10:53:39
Pete you are funny, although u demand from others to talk about the actual soundtrack from this page, you start to talk also about another soundtrack. but ok.... i think Forgotten is a very boring track and adds nothing to the actual scene. a variation of his theme from the track Hero would have been much more intense for the ending. sadly we got 9 boring minutes of thematic development and instrumentation. Lorne can do much better as the track Hero from the same soundtrack shows.

Pete2018-02-24 11:16:29
Glad you caught it Rockhound. Think the others were too wound up to notice !!i was trying to be funny.

Ian2018-02-25 05:14:07
Michael - reread the second half of my previous comment. And no, I don't think Genius or Churchill are no good; I wasn't impressed by the second, to be honest, but Genius is really cool - like an updated version of Frost/Nixon, one of my very favorite Zimmer/RCP scores.

Edmund - much appreciated.

Overall, I too am baffled by many of these comments; clearly there is a middle ground between "Lorne is shit." and "Lorne is absolutely amazing.", but this seems to be missed.

And by the way, I'm actually super happy for Lorne's success - I think he deserves it given the quality and quantity of his work, and he seems like a super nice guy to boot (how many composers regularly respond to people on Facebook?). However, this doesn't mean I can't simultaneously point out the fact that much of his work is very, very similar to work he's done previously. Indeed, I think this is more of an issue for Lorne than Hans, perhaps because he takes on sooooooo many projects.

Ian2018-02-25 05:20:47
@HunterTech

"I only get annoyed when people decide he's suddenly the most amazing thing ever, which he really isn't. Even on his most competent scores, it's unlikely many would recognize him as one of the greats. Respect him, sure, but not think he's out of this world."

Exactly. Hans, for all the criticism he gets (much of it for good reason), has written some of the best film music of all time (seriously, having listened to huge amounts of Williams and Goldsmith, I still find Science & Religion my favorite cue ever). On the other hand, Lorne has written innumerable adequate-to-good scores, but none that I can recall are iconic. I'd say the closest he's come is in the form of his contributions to some of Zimmer's work (personally, I think his Kick It theme is the most interesting of those in Inception), but even then he hasn't done anything as memorable as Djawadi's theme from Batman Begins.

Peter2018-02-25 08:56:52
Ian - no one is trying to compare Balfe to Zimmer !Firstly there is a 20 year age gap!!!Zimmer will always be the best in my eyes but doesn’t harm saying someone else can be good

Still confused why this conversation is still troubling some.I remember saying last year that I thought Lego Batman was one of the best animation scores that year and it caused some to have heart attacks.there are a hand full of people that don’t think he is either good or should be working .... we get !!!!




Mike (OTM)2018-02-25 16:52:46
And @Ian, re: talent of assistants, to add to your point... Kick It was, according to Hybrid, Hans’ theme turned into a suite by Balfe...so even there, with his interesting stuff, the nucleus of it is still Zimmer. If you’re talking about Training from Begins for Djawadi, ditto there. Hans said that was the first theme he (Hans) wrote for the movie. So in both cases, these guys kinda sound best when expanding on Hans’ ideas.

Olive2018-02-25 21:27:34
About the score: Dunkirk's unimaginative copy (regardless of who is the lead author of the Nolan movie score).

Lego, really, was one of the best scores for animation last year. Churchill is a good accompaniment to the film and Genius is a fun listening with many moments that catch the ear.

Unfortunately, 12 strong and Geostorm were disappointing, but it is normal for any composer's career to have ups and downs, especially when working with so many numbers in a single year.

I agree with Mike that there is a very clear difference from when Hans is on a project and when one of his assistants goes to work alone. Pirates, WW and even Tarzan are there as more recent examples, all excellent scores, but you know there's something missing there.

On the problem with "hate" for Balfe, it is not unwarranted. It is a reaction to the exaggerated attention he has received over the past year, which overlaps with that received by other composers who work with universes with fan platforms far superior to those in which Balfe works. Jablonsky has the billion dollar franchise of the Transformers, Djawadi GoT and Henry Jackman has worked with the Marvel movies. Even Powell's entrance to SW might have made some noise, but nothing. None of these projects received such warm reception from the members of this site as Balfe's latest projects (with the exception of HZ, of course). That bothers me a little.

Curious to know what he will do with "Pacific Rim".


MrZimmerFan2018-02-25 21:56:43
Geostorm is fun, with a nostalgic nods to the old MV scores.

And much better than 12 Strong

Miguel2018-02-25 22:29:06
Olive - it totally is unwarranted.

Your points are very un-educated .

Ask yourself this .... why has Balfe worked on every Transformere film ?The Majority of Zimmer’s films in the last 15 years and according to ASCAP been an equal composer .Captain Philips for Jackman.Ironman for Ramin .....



Olive2018-02-25 22:53:12
I do not think it has been "uneducated". I even stated the same thing as you in the comment below posted on this same page on february fourth...

Here it is:

"I see that people have always directed some expectation to Lorne's involvement in Zimmer scores and even credit a part of their success to his "Phantom Hand" (in the end he was Zimmer's most enduring assistant, losing only to NGS, who worked with him his entire life in the most different roles). Considering all this is a bit normal to see some people rooting for him every time his name is announced to do something. That's nothing new. One part of the public reserves a certain curiosity about the newest composer who came out from under Zimmer's wings. Many of them had very high expectations about Geoff's PoTC 5 and WW by RGW. And that feeling was shared on the most different internet discussion sites."

Olive2018-02-25 23:04:48
And, frankly, I do not see any problem in Balfe working on the scores of these composers. To say that he has full responsibility for the end result is the same that to say that Mazzaro, AK, or Aruj made up more than 50 percent of his previous and current scores. What we know to be nonsense, mainly in the RCP territory.

Miguel 2018-02-25 23:14:49
Sorry but those three composers you mentioned have never contributed 50/50 to every score the same way as Balfe has.Boss Baby is the closet and unfortunately they needed Conrad Pope to actually come in and write the most memorable cue . Balfe on the other hand has been a major co composer even though for some reason like on Sherlock Holmes not get a co-credit.

superultramegaa2018-02-25 23:23:37
@Miguel
Lorne has not worked on every Transformers film. He worked on TF 1 and 2 only. Maybe you should educate yourself before accusing everyone who questions you of being uneducated.

Hybrid Soldier2018-02-25 23:59:05
"Captain Philips for Jackman.Ironman for Ramin ....."

Correction : Captain Phillips for Hans, Iron Man for Hans. :P

Olive2018-02-26 00:48:16
@Miguel

How are you so sure of that? Mazzaro is credited as composer in almost every BvS cues. He and AK have had massive appearances in Inferno, Chappie and even Interstellar... Other composers were also as important as Balfe in Pirates, Da Vince Code, Rush, Lone Ranger, The Holiday, King Arthur... I do not deny the importance of Balfe in Inception, Sherlock and The Dark Knight (along with JNH, Jackman, Wesson and Djawadi), but point out that he was co-composer in almost everything done by Zimmer in the last 15 years is overkill.He was there, yes, but he was never alone.There was a team of RCP guys with him and Zimmer.

Backbiter2018-02-26 01:22:02
This!

Andrew2018-02-26 01:42:17
God not again.Haters give up.

Olive2018-02-26 02:07:38
I do not know how I fell here, but a 2002 Interview...

www.scotsman

.com/lifestyle/

culture/music/theme-perks-1-622232

Olive2018-02-26 02:13:02
Okay, I'm a "hater" for not agreeing that Balfe is responsible for half of the music composed for Transformers, Inception and etc. I'm happy for this. Good night!

Ian2018-02-26 02:40:26
You are now resorting to searching on google on Balfe !havent you got better things to do than try and prove your uselessness point!Come on

Miguel2018-02-26 02:43:43
Really ?if he didn’t contribute so much he wouldn’t be given “producer” all the time.He does a lot so that’s that.

Olive2018-02-26 03:04:09
@Ian

I am in a moment of procrastination before dawn ... I believe you also have nothing more interesting to do than post here at the moment. I give my word that I will not be here for many hours!

@Miguel

I know, I understand and I have no problem with that.
Everything I wrote so far was against it:

"THE MAJORY of Zimmer's films in the last 15 YEARS..."

We know this is only valid for 5 projects (KFP3, Sherlock, Inception, Frost/Nixon and TDKR).

lol2018-02-26 03:10:16
there are plenty of early HZ scores that sound as bland as Lorne's early scores

lol2018-02-26 15:09:00
Actually, all early HZ scores are innovative. Name one that coasts on the reputation of Stanley Myers.

Miguel reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-25 23:56:10
Would love to hear Hybrids opinion ?????sure he can educate you with the facts

Matt reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-23 23:50:50
Happy birthday Mr Balfe

Olive reply Replies: 4 || 2018-02-13 00:36:28
Balfe was confirmed in some place making music for trailer and promotional material for MI6.

Andreas2018-02-13 12:03:01
Where ?I can’t see any.Obviously don’t want to get too excited Incase that annoys some of the haters !

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-13 12:28:24
I love how black and white these fanboy minds are. Some of us don't think the sun shines out of Lorne Balfe's every orifice and suddenly that makes us haters. *shrug*

Olive2018-02-13 17:30:38
^This

It's nothing official for now. It's just rumors.

Information taken from other message boards indicates that he made the music for this trailer.

youtube.com / watch? v = Um0aZKbpe1Y

And that his latest Twitter post on London captures one of the locations where "Fallout" was filmed.

Olive2018-02-13 23:25:54
About the supposed post on the set of "Fallout", Balfe replied: "I wish! It's actually where I live." Then we go back to nothingness.

George reply Replies: 1 || 2018-02-12 20:32:42
So maybe Jackman isn't scoring Mission Impossible Fallout after all... all previous records of him being the composer have been wiped from IMDB... so the question still might remain lol. Oh well.

Anthony 2018-02-12 22:52:20
Maybe his score was replaced ?

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-08 21:45:02
Pacific Rim Uprising is going to release by Milan Records at April 6th

https: //w ww.amazon.com/gp/product/B079NBPNTV/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl? ie=UTF8&tag=filmusrep-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creative ASIN=B079NBPNTV&linkId=28f138e78324499859e2f3168e68716b

Joe Kraemer reply Replies: 3 || 2018-02-05 01:31:02
Super Bowl spot just aired. It said "full trailer online now". Anyone seen it yet? Credits?

Olive2018-02-05 01:43:28
Hey, Joe! What are you doing here?

Kingfannypack is the Milfcommander2018-02-05 07:32:08
I don't think thats how Hendrix sang it...

isildur2018-02-05 15:14:22
Nope. No credits yet.

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 26 || 2018-02-02 22:45:57
My wish list about Mission Impossible 6 Fallout by new composer, I think I found a good composer for a good spy action for this movie.

1. Lorne Balfe
2. Daniel Pemberton
3. Steve Jablonsky
4. Junkie XL
5. Trevor Morris
6. David Arnold
7. Ramin Djawadi
8. Rupert Gregson Williams

I Picked those composers might a better deal for Mission Impossible 6 fallout movie. But my opinion, I feel about Brian Tyler if he sign up for Mission Impossible 6 Fallout, then it might sound like Fast & Furious franchise and the expendables too.

Saurabh2018-02-03 01:09:54
The only one in that list who can knock it out of the park is Pemberton. He can take the series's sound back to it's jazzy roots which was attempted only by Elfman. And please no Junkie. His MI will be another MoS/Mad Max synthetic drum retread. Wish Kraemer was back. Rogue Nation was the best recorded score in recent times with a clear crisp sound.

JBSO992018-02-03 13:03:42
Daniel Pemberton would be my top choice. His score of Man from UNCLE is what Mission Impossible needs and that would be fantastic.

Kevin2018-02-03 14:22:21
Pemberton can write melodies . Balfe can .Also they have done the jazz retro score enoughs time.Who mentioned Balfe by the way for Mission ?

dirty_score2018-02-03 14:44:17
The safest way is to go back to Michael Giacchino.

MiguelFilm2018-02-03 14:51:04
No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-03 15:07:54
"Safe is boring. I want Balfe."

lol

...2018-02-03 15:21:52
I don't understand why people think balfe is so great... he's yet to write a score that impresses me. I don't want him to go near mission impossible.

Olive2018-02-03 15:42:58
According with a twitter he published, he was not even invited. Probably got off with the director. It happens a lot. After all they are human beings.

I do not see any hatred played against Balfe on this site. Quite the opposite. The few negative reactions I've seen involving his name here (including mine) have never been directed at the man. He is very well on the circuit (everyone admits he is talented) and the audience takes note of what he does. Do not cry for nothing.

Backbiter2018-02-03 15:43:01
MiguelFilm
"No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also."

What a childlike attitude.

Mike2018-02-03 17:43:32
Sure Edmund wants Powell !!!!!!!

Balfe seems to be the favorite on twitter.mamy people are talking about him and the new trailer getting released at the Super Bowl.Fingers crossed it is him

Mephariel2018-02-03 22:50:43
@Miguel

Safe is boring...lol. Balfe hasn't written anything that radical or that good. Not saying I want Giacchino, but I don't care for Balfe in movies like this. He had his chance with Geostorm and that was bland.

I rather Henry Jackman scores this than Balfe and I am not really a fan of Jackman.

Jean-Luc 2018-02-04 01:00:52
Yeah, you are right, but I feel Daniel Pemberton fits with Mission Impossible 6 Fallout because it's fits with his style.

marky2018-02-04 01:33:07
“eah, you are right, but I feel Daniel Pemberton fits with Mission Impossible 6 Fallout because it's fits with his style.”

How do you know if you haven’t actually seen the film !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jean-Luc 2018-02-04 02:16:28
No, I haven't seen the film yet! But my opinion, I have feelings about Daniel Pemberton will score Mission Impossible 6 Fallout. But if not, then we will find out about tomorrow by the super bowl teaser trailer. If I see Brian Tyler on the preview end credits by end of the trailer. Then I would be disappointed about that.

Anonymous2018-02-04 02:47:29
Come on ! Daniel Pemberton is not up there with the likes of Elfman and Zimmer and the others that have score the other Mission films.i hope Balfe is doing it because he can sure write action music and an epic theme-even thought there is a cool theme already !

Gavin 2018-02-04 03:01:52
Twitter seems crazy with who is actually scoring Mission Impossible just like with powelll doing Star Wars ! Balfe seems to be liked the most .

Jean-Luc 2018-02-04 03:07:10
Right! Twitter goes crazy!!

Olive2018-02-04 03:28:24
What are hashtags? I also have a twitter account.

Olive2018-02-04 03:30:06
Well, I did not see any significant movement on twitter. But many forums, like this one, are commenting on Kraemer's exit and electing possible substitutes.

Olive2018-02-04 03:39:34
People are okay with Balfe's entry, but most believe Brian Tyler's coming.

The reactions (on behalf of Balfe or Tyler) are not as ecstatic as the ones Powell received when word got out that he's with SW.

Everyone is unhappy with Kraemer's non-continuity.

I, in particular, believe Balfe will make the score. He has been sharing film material on social networks. It's inevitable.

Iamtommie2018-02-04 12:10:53
At the Superbowl a trailer will be released, so we will probably will see who will score the movie at the end!

Thomas2018-02-04 12:33:23
It better be Balfe . Probably the biggest film of the year and he will nail it

Andreas2018-02-04 13:37:17
Hybrid is very quiet on this subject ? Does he know something we all don’t !!!!!Go Balfe

Hybrid Soldier2018-02-04 13:41:48
Because no matter what I would write it'd be interpreted as being a confirmation or not... So I leave the subject to you guys !

Kronov2018-02-04 13:53:40
Brian Tyler

Jean-Luc2018-02-05 01:31:52
Mission Impossible 6 Fallout trailer is awesome and Badass Henry Cavill I like it. Unhappily, I don't see composer at the end trailer, maybe we will find out the next day.

Olive reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-05 01:31:17
Anything!

Whoever he/she is, it's time to end the game and reveal yourself! xD

superultramegaa reply Replies: 10 || 2018-02-04 15:38:35
I don't hate Lorne Balfe as a person or composer. He's a great arranger/additional music writer and has helped write some iconic stuff for TDK Trilogy and Transformers 1 and 2, and Ghost in the Shell and Lego Batman were a ton of fun. But man, with exception of a few people, this chain is the biggest circle jerk of a composer I've ever seen.

Response prediction:
Balfe is. great composer !! He is king of scores many and Giacchino and Tyler are bad composers !!1!!1!! he is biggest. on twitter and twitter wants .him to music other movies !?.!:;

Edmund Meinerts2018-02-04 16:51:14
The whole of 2017 has been basically one long Balfe circlejerk at this website and I'm a bit baffled as to why. It started with Lego Batman and hasn't let up since. Not sure where all these fanboys have come from. It's like they've leaked over from Twitter or YouTube.

I think Balfe is a solid composer and I admire his productivity, work ethic and ability to competently handle lots of different styles of music. Lego Batman was in my top 10 scores of last year, even. But the response to (IMO not that special) scores like 13 Hours, Genius, Crown s2 and 12 Strong has been ludicrous at times here. There's almost as many comments on those pages as Dunkirk and BR2049, and those are huge movies with scores by the guy who this website is actually focused on.

...2018-02-04 18:09:33
This!

Backbiter2018-02-04 18:13:54
&#8710; This! x2

Macejko2018-02-04 18:36:40
I agree with Edmund whole-heartedly, and I might also add that these fanboys and their ludicrous clamoring are actually starting to make me sick of Balfe, which I try to suppres, because the guy us talented and I usually like his work. Seriously, fellas, shut the fuck up already.

To be perfectly honest, this is starting to feel like some nefarious, unprecedented PR scheme.

JBSO992018-02-04 18:57:09
That's what I think. He is a great composer, but not all of his scores have been the best score of the year. I liked a lot his scores for LEGO Batman and Ghost in the Shell, but the others I felt weren't that great.
That said, I think he is a really great person in relation to his fans, because of the Twitter and the release of the GitS score.

Andrew 2018-02-04 19:59:06
What a rediculous thing to say “starting to make me sick of Balfe”. Simply because people are enjoying his music . He has been part of Hans Zimmer world for 15 years so deserves his success.How weird people want to slag someone off.Very immature

Backbiter2018-02-04 20:27:54
Andreas.
Do you know how an inmature person sounds like?
Like this:
"PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE
PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE"

"No one want safe. Safe is boring. Balfe for me also"

You balfe fanboy's sound like little kids that want to eat dessert before dinner.

Hybrid Soldier2018-02-04 20:38:01
Well don't be stupid then, just ignore...

rockhound2018-02-04 20:53:23
even as a big fan, you should be realistic. not every score, your fave composer did, is awesome or great work. you should be honest to yourself in that. the praise for a couple of balfes works is simply not understandable. i dont care who will compose the music for M:I 6. if it is balfe, im ok with that. if it is someone else, im also fine with that. im a trevor rabin fan and ofc i would be happy, if he will do it. but even as a big fan, i know that there a way more competent composers out there for this job, than rabin.

Olive2018-02-04 21:31:12
At first I also thought it was PR, but then reflecting on the role of Balfe in Zimmer scores after 2008 (with TDK), I see that people have always directed some expectation to Lorne's involvement in Zimmer scores and even credit a part of their success to his "Phantom Hand" (in the end he was Zimmer's most enduring assistant, losing only to NGS, who worked with him his entire life in the most different roles). Considering all this is a bit normal to see some people rooting for him every time his name is announced to do something. That's nothing new. One part of the public reserves a certain curiosity about the newest composer who came out from under Zimmer's wings. Many of them had very high expectations about Geoff's PoTC 5 and WW by RGW. And that feeling was shared on the most different internet discussion sites.

But corroborating that this is about PR... xD

The user names are a little similar...

George reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-04 17:43:10
As of now, the two with the most attachments are Brian Tyler and actually Henry Jackman.. I guess the main editor has worked with jackman on multiple occasions? Just feeding to the fire here maybe, but I wouldn’t get your hopes too high for Balfe. Who knows though. Hopefully we learn in just a few hours.

AntosMusic78 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-04 16:45:50
Wonder if they are using Brian Tyler . What happened with Joe Kraemer?

M hegarty reply Replies: 1 || 2018-02-04 14:21:17
Lorne Balfe is the king
Long live the king

Brian2018-02-04 14:39:45
I agree if it’s not Kraemer again then maybe Giachino again.would be cool to have Balfe but they will want an A list composer on it probably

M hegarty reply Replies: 0 || 2018-02-04 14:20:44
Lorne Balfe is the king

George reply Replies: 13 || 2018-02-02 15:30:04
Via his own twitter account: Joe Kraemer is NOT scoring MI:6... I’d kill for another RCP Mission Impossible score

Andreas2018-02-02 16:17:04
PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE
PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE PLEASE SAY ITS BALFE

George2018-02-02 16:54:54
Rumor is that its Brian Tyler, but I can't find any proof of that at all other than his loose connection to Tom Cruise. Balfe would also be my preference though

MichaelP2018-02-02 19:27:11
Please not Brian Tyler !!!!!!! If Balfe is doing this then this is best news possible.Finally Balfe is getting a big film

Anonymous2018-02-03 03:36:54
Balfe had his chance at a big film with terminator genisys. that score is terrible. not sure if the film or the score is worse.

Pretrus2018-02-03 09:14:41
Terminator was great and he was loyal to the theme.I now getting excited about Mission Impossible it Balfe is doing it .Hybrid do you know ?

AndyFilm2018-02-03 10:02:04
If balfe is doing MI6 I’m buying my tickets tomorrow

gavinPF2018-02-03 10:37:44
Genius and Crown have showed Balfe is once of the best.Weird to see hatred on this site for him sometimes.If he was so bad why is he so busy!

gringo2018-02-03 12:13:28
John Powell should do MI6!

Kasper2018-02-03 12:27:41
Powell or Balfe would be amazing .I wonder why Kramer is not doing it again?

Anonymous2018-02-03 18:01:12
Terminator was great? LOL

He was loyal to the theme? It was Brad Fiedel and the theme has been in every single film, Balfe is no one special LMAO

Andreas2018-02-03 18:23:00
Anonymous - that’s not true actually.You will have the sequels started only using the main theme by Fiedel only for the opening titles.I found Balfe used the theme and the infamous motif very successfully.Fiedel even in interviews has mentioned how Balfe is the only one that fully respected the theme.The last mission impossible musically wasn’t very original.It was good but very like the TV show.if Balfe is actually do it then he will do a great job I’m sure

AndrewF2018-02-03 19:26:45
Terminator was great and Balfe brought great emotion to the film.if they bring Zimmer back for Mission that will be great but if it’s Balfe then I will be just as happy

Anonymous2018-02-03 20:53:38
salvation was the only one that only used the theme in the main title.

mission impossible 5 had a great score. many themes, 2 of which were Schiffrin's. I count 5 themes used: main, ethan's, ilsa's, benji's and lane's

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 8 || 2018-01-24 20:17:12
Lorne Balfe is NOW scoring Pacific Rim Uprising.

That's unexpected

George2018-01-24 20:20:48
I saw him retweet something about the movie the other day and I figured maybe he had signed on late as a replacement... of which I’m pretty happy about lol.

Andreas2018-01-24 21:47:35
At one interesting thing about that movie nobody asked for.

fs2018-01-24 21:54:11
Should have been Djawadi again as he did great in the first one. Lorne will write just another quick weekend score which only seems listenable because he is using some powerfull sounding sample libraries.

Macejko2018-01-24 21:58:12
I knew Paesano wasn't up to the task, and yes, they should have hired Ramin again, which they now cannot do, since he is busy with GoT tour. However, now that Balfe is doing it, there is a bigger chance that the old themes would make a comeback at least. Then again, perhaps not, but I'm still glad the PR franchise stayed in RCP family.

mpolonest123 2018-01-24 23:37:55
I wouldn’t be surprised if Paesano had written the score but ignored Ramin’s themes, and considering that “Cancelling the Apocalypse” is in the trailer that’s probably not what the producers wanted.

Definitely glad LB is on board, he is on such a hot streak right now. I’m guessing the end result will sound like a mix of Terminator: Genisys and Pacific Rim.

Maze Runner Fan2018-01-25 02:50:57
Is the gist of it here that Paesano isn't that great or something? I watched the latest Maze Runner and his music there was great, same case as the second Maze Runner... His style really grabs at me.

mpolonest123 2018-01-25 03:51:05
He’s definitely not a bad composer, but for me personally he just doesn’t stand out. His music for the Netflix shows are a perfect example, not bad at all but somewhat generic. I did like the first Maze Runner score though.

Everan2018-01-25 20:27:09
Paesano is good, but not for blockbusters. His Netflix scores are good and MR has some nice tracks, but most of them are just forgettable. And after the awesome theme by Djawadi, I doubt he would've done something cool or memorable. Case in point, his Mass Effect Andromeda score, compare with the previous ones and only one track stood out, barely, that being the main theme which isn't from the previous trilogy.

Now Balfe better keep the theme at least

Antonmusic reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-25 14:11:24
If Edmund has such an issue with Balfe . Why is he brought on to re write so many scores and brought in as a “producer” ?he can’t be that bad !!!!!!

Michael reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-21 09:30:36
Fantastic soundtrack for an amazing film.

Patrick2018-01-21 17:56:47
So digging this score

Kevin reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-19 16:50:05
We watched the film last night and is a good solid movie with great action but a big score from Balfe .there seems to be much more thematic material in the film than was is on the soundtrack .agreat start to the year for scores

Some Guy reply Replies: 3 || 2018-01-14 06:18:05
My alternative cover design to this (since I liked "Rescue" so much): https://ibb.co/b8VMrm

Michael2018-01-14 07:39:10
Love the your album cover idea

Frank2018-01-14 07:56:36
Great music and managed to see a preview of the film and the score is so good with the movie.just the right amount of themes and powerful action music

JackP2018-01-14 12:32:55
Prayers and 12 Strong are really good tracks.does anyone know when the film is released

Andreas reply Replies: 25 || 2018-01-11 16:05:57
It will have 19 tracks.

Sounds like a non theme based score. The emotional tracks will stand out more than the the action based music which sounds mostly atmospheric.

MrZimmerFan2018-01-11 17:32:33
Here:

https: //itunes.apple.com /lk/album/12-strong-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/13328 55005

Hybrid Soldier2018-01-11 19:15:51
Extract added !

George2018-01-11 19:40:32
Pretty cool, you can hear a lot of references to his 2017 scores like The Crown, and I'm 100% okay with that. Thanks!

Ahmad2018-01-11 19:45:22
Interesting... The first 3 minutes seem to be influenced by "Duck Shoot" from The Crown. Also, Dunkirk influence at 5:20.


George2018-01-11 20:01:06
I definitely heard the Duck Shoot and Dunkirk reference too, Ahmad! Again, not opposed to it. You can hear a little bit of Geostorm action in there too.

Peter2018-01-11 20:22:58
Well he did write the duck shoot !!! The sample sounds fantastic

Ahmad2018-01-11 20:49:00
Oh! I didn't know he worked on Duck Shoot/The Crown S1.
By the way, I wasn't criticising. I was just pointing out the references :)

...2018-01-11 21:08:49
I hear a lot of Oblivion in 20.000 Feet Above...
the first track sounded interesting

Olive2018-01-11 21:27:24
Holkenborg's 300 at 10:22

xD

Andres2018-01-12 06:02:09
300 !!!! More like listen to Balfes Assasins Creed !What a great action score to start the year off with.Love Balfes work at the moment

Antonio2018-01-12 09:15:45
After listening to the album I can’t wait to watch the film. Nice to hear hard action music but with some melodies . It always seems to be one or the other these days

Mike2018-01-12 11:50:39
Balfe going back to his Call of Duty style of music which is cool

Kalman2018-01-12 12:19:43
Will there be a CD release as well?

BaronP2018-01-12 12:28:16
Great soundtrack with great mix of orchestra and electronics

rockhound2018-01-12 12:33:00
this score sounds like a mix of Dunkirk, Sicario, some Man of Steel drum parts and sadly a very uninspired main theme. the title track is the stand out cue and 2-3 other tracks sound also nice. the rest is maybe effective in the movie, but as a stand alone listening experience not very convincing. the least enjoyable score for a bruckheimer movie. lorne can do much better.

PeterM2018-01-12 12:43:06
Not many big themes but some really interesting textures and action.the rare times there are a theme it’s classic Jerry Bruickheimer with big epic orchestra.hints of 13 Hours and ghost in the Shell.lookong forward to watching the film

andyfilm72018-01-12 12:46:52
Favorite tracks are 12 Strong ,Prayers and EVAC. Evac is BRILLIANT

CalendarMan2018-01-12 13:51:56
Happy for everyone who likes this score. But for me unfortunately... i screamed out loud that I'm sick and tired of all these ambient scores while hearing at it. This can't be the right way, when you play 2-3 repeating notes with a piano and it's THE main theme and the ONLY melodical cue or a piece of it in the whole score. while everyone likes this (for which i'm happy for you guys), it frustrates me, that i haven't heard to a rcp score for a long long long time, that was a really good score.

rockhound2018-01-12 18:58:11
because the story is based on true events, i can understand, why lorne didn't go for the big epic patriotic hollywood sound, but something like Black Hawk Down or djawadis Medal of Honor scores must have been possible. even the last 3 tracks are just ok, because of the weak theme. and for this kind of sound the album is way too long.

Olive2018-01-12 20:35:05
Private Rian is partly based in true facts.

superultramegaa2018-01-12 21:14:14
CalendarMan - TF5 was pretty melodic for the most part. The Crown Season 2 (while I'm not a fan of it) seemed pretty melodic. Blue Planet II was basically a more epic Thomas Newman score (at least aesthetically). There wasn't much interesting stuff from Zimmer, but there's been some good scores this year.

Alberto2018-01-13 00:21:57
Why does it have to be melodic?maybe the film did not fit having old traditional score.I think Balfe’s has done a great mix of both worlds with this score and we will see when the film is released

Olive2018-01-13 00:32:55
Already released? Where to listen?

olive2018-01-13 00:39:05
Ok, I see it on Spotify.

rockhound2018-01-13 07:22:19
@Alberto
Geostorm is also very melodic, but not an old traditional score. so of course it was possible to compose at least a more melodic intense theme than we have here now and im sure it would have fit.

FaresTdkr reply Replies: 1 || 2018-01-12 20:23:19
Well,well,well. I just finished listening to this score the first I've noticed is the Atmospheric mode that you'll find in almost every track except 17.rescue which I think just some tweak of duck shoot from the crown season one. I dont like the score in general except rescue track. And yes there is some little cues from Dunkirk.

Oliver2018-01-12 20:36:23
After all it is a Bruckheimer movie.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2018-01-11 13:12:16
Is this a prequel to 13 Hours?

George2018-01-11 15:23:51
Hahaha

Brian2018-01-11 16:03:27
It was based after the twin towers

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 3 || 2018-01-10 19:51:07
So this will come out on the 12th !

FaresTdkr2018-01-10 21:04:51
Please hybrid any thing about next film for Hans.

olive2018-01-10 22:49:37
2018's The Lion King. xD

Mephariel2018-01-11 00:20:47
The Lion King is 2019.

123 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-10 20:41:47
Amazing!!
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