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How much excitement here is there for this? These two composers must have hit out of the trash bin this time.Isn't it funny how embarassingly neoliberalist Hans Zimmer is nowadays? Back in the 1990s he was a socially conscious activist. Next - what up - a Trump fanfare, A Paul Ryan shame boogie. Nothing would be surprising for this corporate version of a composer I used to love.Some good music here but would be so much better if Zimmer hadn't had to homogenize it all again. He is a shameful corporation.I defend a guy who is being a rare voice of moderation around here and now I'm the childish one. That about sums up the readership at this site. At least, a significant proportion of it. I didn't even say anything about whether I like Balfe or not. I actually do like him a fair amount. But anything short of God-worship and mass human sacrifice at the holy feet of the Mighty Lorne is insufficiently devout for the likes of you guys, huh?<br><br>Again, attempting any sort of nuanced discussion is a total waste of time around here these days.AntoMia - or Balfe's assistant - stop making silly comments. If this is the best music to a TV show in ages, you haven't watched any tv shows
At the end of the day, the Zimmer style for Batman is now done. It had its ten years of glory but now sounds like bad advertising music as all of Hans' music tends to do after its cycle runs out. <br><br>Junkie does not have the skills to come up with a new style nor do any of the lackies Hans employs currently. <br><br>Good at doing additional, terrible at anything original.<br><br>Think back to the days of Powell etc and now we have Krazcynski. Fuck.<br><br>The Hans factory is dying finally. This is a positive thing for film art as Balfe was the epitomy of a drone/clone composer and now the industry is catching up. <br><br>They can get either a computer/Balfe to do the same thing or find someone who has actual skills and talent. <br><br>Maybe we can finally get some real composition here.Having your name in the credits does not mean you have been artistically involved. The Lorne Balfe empty monicker now translates to this message: 'cheap Zimmer emulation Zimmer was not bothered to do but sent his coffee boy to look after. There is no orchestra, samples are from 2002 as recent ones cost actual money.'Anonymous apologises - Marejko seems to support Trump and the NRA. Well, if you do, prepare for a tsunami of young people who are not as thick and selfish as you in their worldview. And if you support these organisations, shame on you as a coward. <br><br>“why the fuck are you having a go at Ian”<br><br>Edmund just chill !!!!!!!! <br><br>In other news ... Happy Birthday BalfeMy degree from a conservatory in Cocksville, Tennessee, allows me to authoritative. Suck on my balls as I am not Cartman, at all.
I am so lonely. Please do not abandon me. Why you so nasty. Me not nasty. Can I be friend with you?Edmund give it a rest .We all get the point that you don’t think Balfe is great but go away and listen to How To Train Your Dragon on loop.You come off very childish.Therenis nothing wrong with the argument about the Emmys either.You May not like it because it shows you thoughts are in the minority......thankfully.most importantly ——/ Happy Birthday MeastroMarejcko here sounds like a Daily Mail reader off his medication. If you cannot understand the difference between Shore's nuanced approach to orchestal music and Djawadi's instrumental approach, I suppose it is the same as explaining Brexit to a Daily Mail reading ape and someone with an ability to think. Or, to take it from the other perspective, Fox News to anyone with a brain. <br><br>By the way, it is not a great argument to say that 90% of listeners will miss the nuances. Most people have better brains than you do - I suppose you support the RNA as well with your level of cognitive ability and intelligence. If you do, you are an inhuman.<br>I love LotR music, but the superior "development" and "complexity" that the buffoon above me is referring to basically translates to "now the theme is being played by six violins instead of seven, because one of the characters just died", which is just super-duper noticeable, if you catch my drift. <br><br>In the meantime, Djawadi manages a complete tonal shift from adventurous to dark and ominous (Needle - House of Black and White), from royal and grandious to bloody and brutal (King's Arrival - The Throne Is Mine), and combining the themes in ways Shore hasn't even attempted.<br><br>I love these posh music-savvy professionals straight from conservatory in Cocksville, Tennessee, telling us mere peasants that our tastes suck because if you listen very very carefully, you will notice that one of the choir members in O3:47 just scratched his balls, which of course signfies the internal turmoil Frodo is in.<br><br>I will say it again - I love LotR music. But thematic nuances my ass. Even intent listeners would miss about 90% of them - so much so they might be on many occassions downright nonexistent - and even if you do notice, the entire experience just boils down to "oh, the theme is now being played slightly differently, I guess that's kinda cool, in a way, maybe". There has never been a radical transformation or combination of themes in a way Djawadi does it. "Playing a more somber version of the Fellowship theme", or whatever else you may say to justify putting Shore on a higher pedestal than Djawadi, simply doesn't cut it. All of it serves just as a pointless piece of trivia,  being used by stuck-up smellers of their own farts to appear mighty and knowledgeable.<br>To even compare Djawadi and Shore in complexity is offensive. I presume you haven't actually bothered reading Doug Adams' book on the thematic nuances of The Lord of the Rings? Djawadi employs tiny little nuggets of melody as themes that he recycles verbatim every time. There is no variation. <br><br>The Lord of the Rings is based on an extensive amount of thematic development which, absolutely, is missing in Game of Thrones.<br> <br>Certainly, Shore's work is not as nuanced in development as, let's say, Williams with Star Wars, but to compare his extensively detailed emphatically organic and orchestrally and instrumentally complex work to Djawadi using a cello and a bank of samples is offensive. <br><br>Again, some of the choral music is fine but very basic in both harmony and application, and again, let down by the cheapness of the samples underlying them. <br>
The Game of Thrones scores do have their strengths but they're a long, long, long way from Lord of the Rings...Michael, why the fuck are you having a go at Ian when he literally said in the comment above yours "his best work is both highly creative and emotionally compelling IMO"? People aren't complaining about you fanboys for liking Balfe's work, they're complaining about you flying off the rails about nothing.<br><br>"He's been nominated for awards so he must be good" - worst argument ever.Listen to Ghost in the Shell. If you can come back here with a straight face and call Balfe a musical hack makes you a baboon humping cuck-monger. Balfe's talent and contribution is so incredibly apparent. If you can't hear that, you couldn't hear a dump truck drive through a nitroglycerin plant.Ummm the entirety of the Game of Thrones soundtracks show that Djawadi has many strengths both as a composer and a "theme man" or whatever. Game of Thrones has a soundtrack that is comparable to that of Lord of the Rings - not as memorable, but both LoTR and GoT have phenomenal soundtracks with memorable themes that describe the worlds depicted in each respective franchise. Each soundtrack has themes depicting different cultures, groups of people, characters or complex ideas. While GoT soundtrack isn't as beloved as the LoTR score, they share those qualities. So no, Djawadi is no weak composer.Ian - do you honestly think Genius or Churchill are no good !!!!!this site  is so weird.when people slag of Balfe it’s okay but we dare say he is actually good then people get mad about it .Bit pathetic.The guy has been nominated twice for an Emmy so can’t be that bad!Haters give it a rest and get a life please and let us fans just enjoy the music
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Harry Gregson-WilliamsTom HowePaul MounseyJack Dolman
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Early Man
Label: Universal Music
Length: 67'11 (Score: 54'38)
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  4. I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs (3:51)
  5. Dug's Theme (2:40)
  6. Prehistoric Prologue (3:42)
  7. In The Valley (1:27)
  8. Meet Dug (0:41)
  9. Meet The Tribe (2:12)
  10. Rabbit Ambush (1:02)
  11. Bronze Attack (2:17)
  12. City Of Bronze (1:04)
  13. Dug In Bronze Land (0:51)
  14. Stadium Chase (0:39)
  15. The Ancestral Call (1:04)
  16. The Message Bird (1:58)
  17. Giant Badlands Duck (3:10)
  18. Stealing Footballs (1:04)
  19. She Shoots, She Scores (0:45)
  20. Challenge The Champions (1:45)
  21. Harp Escape (1:59)
  22. They're Not A Team (0:47)
  23. Message From The Queen (1:05)
  24. Foul Play (1:18)
  25. Revelations In The Mine (5:04)
  26. Royal Game Day (1:40)
  27. Forfeiture And Humiliation (2:11)
  28. Do It For The Valley (2:08)
  29. The Final Game (4:40)
  30. Chief Is Down (0:54)
  31. Hognob In Goal (3:33)
  32. Mousing Around (1:06)
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Morgan Joylighter reply Replies: 8 || 2018-01-29 17:13:46
Comparing this to classics like Chicken Run makes me sad. Will we ever get scores like that again?


Olive2018-01-30 01:39:48
Chicken Run is more Power than Williams, you know...


Olive2018-01-30 01:40:08
Powell*


Morgan Joylighter2018-01-30 14:31:16
I know, the comparison is more that they are both claymation films by the same director. It's sad that they wanted interesting fresh music 20 years ago and now they just ask for generic crap with no creativity or passion.


Edmund Meinerts2018-01-31 10:04:28
I've only heard a few bits of this score but it sounded nice enough, no masterpiece but no generic crap either.


Andreas2018-01-31 11:58:02
I thought it was great. The main theme is great and played throughout the score. Looking forward seeing the movie. No generic crap indeed.


Morgan Joylighter2018-01-31 16:32:36
You can reject the specific phrase "generic crap," it was just a quick way to describe how I felt after listening to the score. If some of you actually enjoy it than I don't want to insist its worse than you think it is. I just didn't have the same experience.

But I would be very surprised if any long-time MV/RC fan could listen to Chicken Run and Early Man back-to-back and not feel a sense of sadness for what we've lost in the last 20 years. There are emotions that are almost totally missing from modern scores. Emotions that are the whole reason I and others fell in love with the Zimmer style of film music in the first place.


Edmund Meinerts2018-01-31 20:11:33
You could also listen to Early Man and The Replacement Killers back to back and reflect on how far Harry Gregson-Williams has come. I don't know. A whole lot of scores would suffer by being compared with Chicken Run, regardless of when they were composed.


Morgan Joylighter2018-02-05 17:30:34
Now that I cannot argue with :)

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-28 10:06:54
Not a bad score. Pretty fun and engaging most of the time.

Andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-01-24 08:51:50
Wondring how much influence Tom Howe wille have on this score. Professor Marston was such a lovely score.

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