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Saying Balfe has no imagination is beyond stupid. Take a listen at some of his work on animated movies (Home, or his work on KFP2-3), it's definitely not to work of someone without imagination.<br><br>On Fallout in particular, I honestly think he makes the best use of the classic themes in the series. That's maybe not "imaginative", as these themes aren't his, but it's definitely clever and not something every composer can do. Even an experienced guy like Michael Giacchino had 2 stabs at this franchise, and yet failed not only to give a memorable score, but also failed in using these classic themes in such a fun way.JohnWilliams Started out or rather got more into the realm of composing being doing Tv SHowsMeistermind - what’s wrong with being a TV composer ?<br><br>You sound like those idiots on Film music forum that think they know so much .The keyboard comment is exactly the nonsense said.<br><br>Fallout is one of the best action films ever in my opinion with a brilliant soundtrack.<br><br>Balfe is what in the 80s you might have called a TV composer. He has skills to get the job done but no imagination on anything. There'll be a few live bongos in the next film, a lot of supposedly live brass that sounds exactly like my keyboard, and no imagination. <br><br>That's the seemingly Chris Nolan way they want to go here. But if McQuarrie and Cruise are sticking to their mandate on making every film different, well how about (they are not going to go full Lathimos whatever), trying the Jeremy Dyson way, and go for Frank Ilfman. How about being more creative, Mansell has burned his bridges but still does excellent music but how about Richter, he can do anything, or even a Murray Gold. If you hire a pointless HZ flunkie, we'll get someone good, This used to be fine, but now with these dingdongs it is increasingly difficult<br>Balfe did produce both !!!!!!!!!!so ofcause they would sound related <br>Fallout was an excellent film and great soundtrack
In my opinion this soundtrack is very different than the others.<br>Six films and five composers, with a different styles and this soundtrack is very different.<br>For me it's a great soundtrack but the sound is too similar at the dark Knight and Dunkirk.Have to agree about Balfe and Fallout being the best mission score.would be interesting to see what he would do with bond or even Star Wars.<br>There seems to be comments on twitter that Balfe will be doing the score live at the The Royal Albert Hall.anyone know ?If you want modern, have Ludwig Göransson score the movie. Him or Don Davis. If you want to stick with RCP, I would love to see Benjamin Wallfisch take a stab at it based on his work on King of Thieves.Hello team, i would just like to add to the thank-you's, throughout the years you've been roxxin the world.<br> anyways i particularly enjoyed "time" but not for the movie instead it was used as an AMV on youtube for the japanese anime Zetsuen No Tempest. the story is epic suffice to say that it + time blew my heart away then and there. <br>So thank you very much :D...but modern
Lalo Schifrin certainly didn't need Lorne Balfe to make him sound cool.Now that would be an interesting to hear what he could do with Star WarsModern and cool? Seriously Balfe is the reason why the theme works? Let’s have balfe re write Star Wars to make it modern and cool.I think Balfe has to come back because Fallout was the first since Mission 2 the music worked.He made Lalo’s theme sound modern and cool.It's out there.
Reef 2: High TideSerenity going to be released next week<br><br>https:/ / www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KZGKX4K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl ?ie=UTF8&tag=filmusrep-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativ eASIN=B07KZGKX4K&linkId=b932ee0afd97cf3be04f644cad294734I watched again and the "thickness" in some of the low end was in fact multiple kettle drums being rapidly pounded which in fact accounts for the excess reverberation and explains why it sounded muddy to me.  I will have to get the "World of Hans Zimmer" recording that others are talking about and see if I like that one better.Personally, I do not want Balfe or Kraemer to return. I found Kraemer's score to be too restrained, and while Balfe's score is exciting, when I watched the film, I thought the music worn out quickly by the middle of the film. Too much of the same orchestrations. <br><br>I hope they go with someone new.Please add some Interstellar, Man of Steel or Batman Begins to the 2019 tour..
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Hans ZimmerLorne BalfeMatthew MargesonDominic Lewis
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Sherlock Holmes - A Game Of Shadows (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 159'25
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  1. Open (2:54)
  2. Street Fight (0:58)
  3. Auction Room (3:37)
  4. At The Restaurant (3:33)
  5. Coffee, Tobacco & Cocoa Leaves (2:20)
  6. Web Of Conspiracy (2:24)
  7. Web To Car (0:56)
  8. Drive (1:20)
  9. Meet Mycroft (1:10)
  10. Meet Simza (3:30)
  11. Fight With A Cossack (Part 1) (0:30)
  12. Fight With A Cossack (Part 2) (3:10)
  13. To The Wedding (0:34)
  14. Wedding (1:14)
  15. Moran (0:40)
  16. Holmes Confronts Moriarty (3:22)
  17. Honeymoon Begins (0:50)
  18. Train Opening (2:30)
  19. Implementation (1:02)
  20. No Accident (1:58)
  21. Holmes Plan (1:01)
  22. Mycroft Saves Mary - On To France (2:22)
  23. Find The Fortune Teller (2:59)
  24. Gypsy Fortress (1:18)
  25. Romanian Wind (2:08)
  26. Mycroft Is Naked (0:38)
  27. To Paris, Ravache & The Opera (1:43)
  28. Ravache (1:18)
  29. Imperator (1:49)
  30. To The Opera (4:25)
  31. Paris Bombing Investigation (1:35)
  32. Consider What We Know (2:16)
  33. Outro (0:57)
  34. Holmes Captured By Moran (4:05)
  35. Holmes Tortured (4:41)
  36. Escape The Factory (4:47)
  37. Forest Battle (2:01)
  38. Watson Revives Holmes (2:23)
  39. We're Going Home... Via Switzerland (0:34)
  40. We Don't Know What He's Planning (1:51)
  41. Cosmetic Surgery (4:46)
  42. Chess Match (5:51)
  43. Little Red Book (4:10)
  44. Pre Vis Finale (2:25)
  45. Memories Of Sherlock (2:17)
  46. Case Re-Opened (2:58)
  47. Moriarty Suite (13:34)
  48. Mycroft Suite (1:51)
  49. Did You Kill My Wife (Idea) (2:57)
  50. He's All Me Me Me (Idea) (2:09)
  51. Shush Club #1 (Source) (5:48)
  52. Shush Club #2 (Source) (3:54)
  53. Shush Club #3 (Source) (4:32)
  54. Beautiful Eyes (Source) (2:13)
  55. Open (Alternate) (3:29)
  56. Drive (Alternate) (3:38)
  57. Fight With A Cossack (Part 2) (Alternate) (3:12)
  58. Holmes Tortured - Die Forelle (Alternate) (3:42)
  59. Little Red Book (Alternate Ending) (0:52)
  60. Memories Of Sherlock (Alternate) (2:13)
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HunterTech reply Replies: 0 || 2018-07-16 04:33:18
So I've finally decided to give this a listen today, and it was a lot of fun! The general quirkiness, source cues that actually benefit the score, and one of the best themes that I've heard from Zimmer in Moriarty certainly make this one a keeper. A lot of people barp on the OST, but it certainly made me interested to hear the music in a better form. I'll probably have to listen to it again before forming a definitive opinion, but as is, it managed to actually live up to the hype.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 1 || 2018-06-09 13:25:40
So am I right in thinking that the "Shadows" cues on the album are a combination of "Moriarty Suite" with "Chess Match"? Those two run 19:25 together, and the Shadows cues are 18:17, so if you factor in the OST's 8% speed increase it could fit. I ask because those two cues are missing from the sessions leak and I'm trying to put together as complete an album as I can (shame two such important cues weren't included in the leak so as to have them at the right speed and pitch, I can slow it down myself but it still doesn't sound quite "right").


mpolonest123 2018-06-09 15:36:22
They are, although the first 2 minutes of “Chess” seem to be a mix of the complete Moriarity Suite and possibly “Holmes Captured by Moran”

Bibi reply Replies: 0 || 2018-06-07 15:29:41
THIS is the score I was looking for ! Finally... after 6 years lol

Poe reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-18 04:34:41
Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?


Medigo2018-05-18 10:11:09
Probably for chronological purposes
even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that time

thearmusicgroup reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-16 08:15:56
Just listening to the first three tracks, it reminds me of how disappointed I was when the OST first released. This is one of my favorite scores by Zimmer, so this is like discovering it all over again!

Hari Haran reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-16 01:21:55
Man, what is it with Hans and expanded releases? Between this and Batman v Superman earlier this year, it's like discovering one goldmine after the other. :D


badbu2018-05-16 07:18:40
hahahah so true :D

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 9 || 2018-05-13 17:51:09
So happy these are finally out!

Alongside At World’s End, this is not only one of Zimmer’s best sequel scores but one of his best scores in general. Between the Moriarity theme(s), the Romanian Gypsy influence, and all of the new ideas thrown in you really get a sense that Zimmer put a lot of heart into this one. And that train fight sequence? Definitely on par with the 18-minute action cue from Sherlock 1.

It’s also pretty cool to see the evolution of Moriarity’s theme start off all proper and composed, only to gradually disintegrate as the music progresses. By “Pre-Vis Finale” the theme is boiled down to only three notes. There is so much genius here, and the score never resorts to temping in numerous cues from the first film to pad it out (here’s looking at you TDKR/On Stranger Tides).

Honestly, I still can’t understand why the album was such a mess? Between the pitch being off to missing important cues, that release was a disgrace. Now, if I had a major complaint with the score, it’s that Simza never receives a proper theme. You have the gypsy sound for her, but no established identity.


kingfannypack is the MILFcommander2018-05-13 18:50:12
Hans' goes over this score a lot in his Masterclass, you can tell it's something he is very proud of. Rightly so!


Mike (OTM)2018-05-14 03:30:56
This is a pretty good score. I look forward to digging into it properly.


mpolonest123 2018-05-14 03:42:11
The alternate “Fight With A Cossack” track is pretty cool, I can see where they got the beat for the remix album track. As for the unreleased material, I really love “Paris Bombing Investigation”, something about that cue....


Mike (OTM(2018-05-14 21:15:55
Out of curiosity, what are some of the things he says about this score in the Master Class? I have no reason to spend money on it, cause I'm not an aspiring composer, but he doesn't talk about this particular score in interviews much...


Mephariel2018-05-14 22:50:20
He used some of the footage with the music as an example of creating the right tempo for a score. He also demonstrated the composition experimentation and work process he went through as he created the score's music diary.


Mikefilm82018-05-15 00:03:49
Is Balfe mentioned in the masterclass ?


Mephariel2018-05-15 00:19:36
I don't think so. I can't remember him mentioning other RCP composers (he didn't mention John Williams a couple of times I think). He mostly talked about directors not other composers.


mpolonest123 2018-05-15 01:42:13
He uses the Moriarity Suite (Tick Tock) to show how he uses his workstation to come up with ideas and assemble the music...


lol2018-05-15 09:11:36
sorry, the best sequel score?
TDK and Angels & Demons would like to have a word with you
lol

Mike (OTM) reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-14 03:32:24
That Train Opening cue is ferocious. I love it.

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T-Mann036 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-13 18:24:35
Kudos and thanks for sharing the complete score list, Soldier!

NM reply Replies: 1 || 2018-05-13 18:16:41
Thanks! Hybrid, did Hans write "Chess" as a suite and they fit the scene around it?


Medigo2018-05-13 18:18:54
the complete red book track is also not there, but it does have the film version of the outro

Felix reply Replies: 0 || 2018-05-13 16:51:23
Finally!!!

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