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Cool Hybrid! Been at the concert in Oberhausen last Saturday. A lot better then expected to be honest. Pedro's Oogway's Ascend was very good, Pedro outdid himself there (at the 2nd Zimmer concerts I thought he wasnt that great compared to Richard).<br><br>Yeah! The hell are the other comments about though? The Last Stand is miles ahead of X2. You weren't even saying TLS was the best X-men score, you were just saying it's Powell's best score. Man people are dumbHi, I want to add some seconds of 8 track for the background of my small documentary about races, my first one, is it possibile to ask for copyright? Should I write to some email addresses?<br>I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I don’t personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.<br><br>The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I can’t wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049.... <br><br>Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well. <br><br>Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things. <br><br>I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them. <br><br>Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.Come to Bratislava, Slovakia too.I wonder with all of the Easter eggs if Jackman will incorporate some character themes like possibly the Imperial March for Storm Troopers Or Disney themed for the Disney characters@Anonymous on the Blu-ray it should have surround sound. Just that it's out on iTunes in Australia already - which is how I got it - and iTunes bonus features are obviously only in stereo.<br><br>@Ahmad - the benefit here is really all the film version edits of the cues we already have on the album. And some of them are quite different from the album ones....<br><br>The tracklist I came up with for now for the iso score. Total runtime is 2:08:16.<br><br>A Storm Is Coming (Logos) / Julia / Good Evening, Mr. Hunt	4:51			<br>Self-Destruct	0:23			<br>Plutonium Trade / A Terrible Choice	6:14			<br>The Manifesto	1:46			<br>Fallout (Main Titles) / Your Mission (Part 1)	2:07			<br>Your Mission (Part 2)	2:21			<br>Free Fall (Part 1)	1:57			<br>Free Fall (Part 2)	2:14			<br>Grand Palais / Consequences Of Love	2:01			<br>Bathroom	6:12			<br>No Pain, No Gain (Outro) / As Ugly As They Come 	2:09			<br>I'll See You In My Dreams / Widow Bar	2:33			<br>The White Widow / Should You Choose To Accept...	5:38			<br>Busy Day Tomorrow	0:41			<br>Framing Ethan / The Exchange	6:37			<br>Escape Through Paris	6:11			<br>Steps Ahead	1:11			<br>Je Suis Désolé	1:04			<br>Unfinished Business	0:34			<br>Did You Ever Choose Not To?	1:51			<br>You're Mine Now	0:30			<br>We Are Never Free	4:52			<br>Widow In London	1:45				<br>Trapped	3:14				<br>The Mission Is Terminated	2:02			<br>No Hard Feelings / The Exhortation	6:46			<br>Stairs & Rooftops	6:25			<br>Kashmir	7:10				<br>Julia (Reprise) / Fate Whispers To The Warrior	5:06			<br>And The Warrior Whispers Back	8:20			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 1)	4:12			<br>I Am The Storm (Part 2)	1:21			<br>Scalpel & Hammer	3:47			<br>Cutting On One	1:25			<br>The Last Resort 1:48			<br>There's No Reason To Be Sorry / Mission: Accomplished (Curtain Call)	4:51	<br>End Credits	6:28
I wonder what the quality on the disc will be like but definitely not expecting lossless. Three commentaries and the isolated score and language tracks. That's a lot and the movie is not short lol. <br><br>In general, I don't think we're missing much to begin with (but it's really cool and should be done more often). There's a cool bit where the "Syndicate" theme was used I think in the film version of "Escape Through Paris" and the album version doesn't have that bit.ur kidding. is it like the last jedi? why cant it be in surround soundI believe it's stereo at around 160kbps (since it's a stream from iTunes Extras)What quality does the isolated score from iTunes have?Have any of the slate titles surfaced for this? Would be useful when dividing up that (brilliant!) isolated score into tracks. Got it off iTunes earlier this week and pretty much been on repeat all week, so awesome.
I wish. I live like 15 miles away from Golden 1 Center.come to Sacremento,california!!!No, you lying...The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.I always wanted to know why that is? when you hear music in the movie composed by Hans or company they sometimessound different, or are not in the soundtrack. Perfect example the Batman trilogy and specially Man of steel. John powell has a lot of missing music as well.
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Hans ZimmerSteve MazzaroSteven KofskyStephen Lipson
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Widows
Label: Milan Records
Length: 36'50 (Score: 22'16)
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  1. Marcus (3:24)
  2. We Have A Job To Do (2:33)
  3. Money (2:34)
  4. Perimeter Check (3:09)
  5. The Calm Before The Storm (1:39)
  6. The Job (4:58)
  7. Race Against Time (1:23)
  8. My Son (2:33)
  9. Wild Is The Wind - Nina Simone (7:00)
  10. Dice Game - The Cool Kids (3:11)
  11. The Big Unknown - Sade (4:21)
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meta reply Replies: 1 || 2018-11-12 03:20:44
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049....

Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.


superultramegaa2018-11-12 03:54:41
I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.

Hari Haran reply Replies: 1 || 2018-11-11 20:14:39
I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well.

Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things.

I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.


mpolonest1232018-11-12 03:35:00
I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I don’t personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.

The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I can’t wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2018-11-05 05:23:54
I'm going to assume this album is the whole score, based on Hybrid's comments?


Hybrid Soldier2018-11-05 12:31:19
It is...


Anonymous2018-11-05 16:59:51
so out of a 130 min movie we get 22 min of score. thats an hour and 48 minutes with no score.....


Max Potcats2018-11-05 17:45:09
That's right, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. The less music there is, the more powerful and meaningful it will be when there is. This is a very interesting decision IMO, can't wait to see the movie.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 02:43:49
Having only seen 12YAS, I have full confidence the film will be well done. Say what you will about his music choices, I personally think Steve McQueen is a brilliant filmmaker. If nothing else, the performances should be stunning.

And as far as the score goes, there are plenty of films which make use of silence or sound design without relying on music, so it’s definitely not uncommon.


Mephariel2018-11-06 06:53:10
No doubt McQueen is a great filmmaker and to be honest, his lack of music in his movies never bothered me.

It is crazy that Zimmer is working with 3 of the most talented auteur directors today: Nolan, Villeneuve, and McQueen.


...2018-11-06 12:20:24
The score is very dark. Kind of a thriller version of Dunkirk in places. a lot of rhythmic synths.


...2018-11-06 12:24:17
A lot of it sounds like a mix of the joker.


JamesT2018-11-06 15:51:07
Is that observation based on the one track The Job that’s been released or have you heard the remainder of the score?


...2018-11-06 16:56:14
No I've listened to the whole album. Marcus and My Son are slow and sad pieces for strings and, calm before the storm is kind of quiet with some piano but the rest is suspense like the joker with Dunkirk mixed in.

I am guessing it works great in the movie but as a standalone listen it's not one of Zimmer's most memorable scores.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 23:28:05
After one listen I can definitely tell this is something a lot of people won’t like outside of the context of the film. It’s a very “bare-bones” type of score.
You have the stretched note string music overlaid with ambience, and the grungy “Dunkirk/Joker” electronics.

Personally I like the action music here, regardless of how similar it is to Zimmer’s other scores. “Race Against Time” is particular intense. The emotional music, on the other hand, didn’t really do much for me. I am interested to hear it in context, but don’t go in with high expectations.


Mike2018-11-07 01:50:08
Really, now that I've heard it, this score just sounds like "Dunkirk — The Rejected Stuff." lol. That's saying nothing about how it does in context or whether it does what McQueen wants. But it definitely kind of just sounds like Hans had some leftover ideas from Dunkirk and used this movie for them.


Meta2018-11-07 02:02:13
NOte to John Carpenter:

NOW IS THE TIME. SEIZE THE DAY!


MrMayo2018-11-08 14:44:46
Not complete,that last song isn't going to be played by Sad,but going to be played by SADE..That's something else..I say.


Kalman2018-11-08 19:25:39
The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.

Andreas reply Replies: 12 || 2018-10-25 20:02:07
track 6 already available: https://soundcloud.com/ milanrecords/thejob


mpolonest1232018-10-25 21:04:46
It sounds like a grungier Dunkirk, I’m interested in what the more “thematic” sound will be....


Edmund Meinerts2018-10-26 12:58:14
That description doesn't exactly inspire my confidence.


mpolonest1232018-10-26 15:36:24
@Edmund
It’s pretty much exactly what I expected this to sound like, going off of the reviews that mentioned the score beforehand. If I had to guess, half will sound like Dunkirk/TDK (the heist portions) while the other half will probably be more traditional Zimmer string writing.


Mephariel2018-10-26 16:47:37
Agree with mpolonest123.

I do really like the Shekere portion of the the cue "The Job." I think it adds a very unique touch to the music.


Jsdamian2018-10-26 17:41:10
I have confidence in the tracks 1,5,7,8


MrZimmerFan2018-10-26 19:02:41
Don't expected something orchestral, i got a feeling this score will be enteraily electronic


Mephariel2018-10-26 19:25:13
I think during an interview, Zimmer confirmed that there will be strings sections, so not 100% electronic.


Ahmad2018-10-27 02:13:33
Well, I think we know already that "orchestral" does not equal "thematic". He could have the players bang on their instruments with a toothpick (JK). :D

I really love this kind of stuff, so I enjoyed the track. Can't wait to see the film/hear the rest of the score.


Michael2018-10-27 13:07:02
Is Balfe involved ?Sounding very 13 Hours.


Mike2018-10-27 20:21:33
Zimmer produced 13 Hours...


Micheal 2018-10-29 00:05:20
Mike-is Zimmer on the cue sheet for 13 Hours ?


Mike2018-10-29 06:24:15
Actually, Hybrid said Hans did get credit for one cue on that score...

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-28 20:10:22
@ Hybrid, this commercial edition will get all the music Zimmer wrote, i mean, the 20 minutes of all the score?

Jsdamian reply Replies: 8 || 2018-10-10 23:35:24
Waiting!!


Jsdamian2018-10-17 16:44:51
Nominated in Hollywood media award best score film.


michael2018-10-17 17:45:13
and the film has yet to open. who even nominated it? the people in the industry. they award themselves. goes to show how much of a sham it all is.


Mephariel2018-10-17 19:06:42
The film premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival back in September and was reviewed by like 50+ critics already.


michael2018-10-17 19:22:40
yeah. critics. who the hell nominated it for the music? the general public hasn’t even seen or heard it yet.


Iamtommie2018-10-17 20:24:48
FYC albums is the thing studios use for these kind of nominations.


Mephariel2018-10-17 22:02:10
I don't think you want the general public nominating film scores.


Jsdamian2018-10-18 00:00:29
It was also nominated for interstellar and the film had not yet been shown ... the most important thing is that there can be great music in this movie


michael2018-10-18 00:07:08
the likes of which well never hear outside of the film. our only hope is if someone gets the fyc album and shares it

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