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Maybe the reuse of MW 2 is not Lorne's choice after all. Maybe the movie was temptracked with it, before scored, and the director got attached to it. So Lorne had either to "imitate" it or just use the same cues, since they were his. <br><br>This is just a speculation I made, since this happens quite often. I remember the Elfman - Raimi conflict about the train sequence in Spiderman 2, where Raimi asked Elfman to "copy" a cue from Hellraiser.Guys are you serious ? Iím currently reading comments about how Modern Warfare 2 is in the score. In Bad Boys for Life you can heard firstly  : The Rock, Speed, Bad Boys, ... MW2 is just a reharsch of these score instead with some Black Hawk Down soundscape. Have you heard any MV score post 2005? &#128517;As much as I think that the choice of movie Powell makes, which up till now have created amazing scores, I do wish we'd get more than 1 score of his every year. Even if the quality is like Solo or The Hidden WorldI actually don't know which I prefer. I guess nostalgia might be clouding my judgement, since the album version was the one used on the DVD menu. Both are still pretty good, nonetheless.Yeah no contest IMO, it's much more dynamic and more "Powell-y" compared to that Superman-style rhythm he uses in the album version and elsewhere in the score. Must have been a hasty last-minute redo or something to not show up on the album.
The films Powell is currently choosing allow him to write much more interesting music than your average Marvel movie... ;)<br><br>Excited for Call of the Wild in a few weeks.Does anyone know what the correct chronological tracklist for this would be?Honestly, i think i will be that few people who likes Lights Out. But his best horror score is A Cure for WellnessThatís a cool choice, Iím hoping for something more like ďItĒ and less like ďLightís OutĒ.Wallfisch has compose the score for The Invisible Man, another horror score for the best guy today for the job
Powell has his personal reasons, but I sincerely hope he comes around to do another superhero score again, especially for MARVEL since his style isnít fit for the likes of DC as of now.I like the film version of Bathroom Titles better.LOL!<br><br>He has had some experience with animated projects, Iím interested to hear him do more diverse projects like that.I will never understand when people can't stand people opinions and 'attack' them.<br><br>If some loves Trent Reznor (i hate the guy's music), is his opinion and i no one to say nothing about it.Bring on the remixes!
LOL!!! You have no idea about film music<br>====================<br><br><br>It's his opinion, my friend.<br><br>And his opinion is equally as valid as the opinion of someone who thinks this score is the worst crap ever. Why? Because when it comes to appreciating art (movies, books, music...) it is all completely subjective. <br><br>I always use this example: I have two friends - educated, family men - who have seen The Godfather. One of them thinks it's one of the greatest movies ever, while the other one barely finished watching it. <br><br>At the end of the day, just because a group of people (film critics, film buffs, etc) proclaim that something is "good" or "bad" doesn't mean that it's automatically a holy statement that everyone should agree with. <br><br>We are all different :)<br><br>Cheers!Judging by the clips of this movie, it will be a good choice.<br><br>I can't wait for this one, after seeing those clipsAccording to Film Music Reporter, Tom is also scoring Scoob!MMichaels LOL!!! You have no idea about film musicFantastic score by Balfe.Best action score writer to come from RCP since Powell for sure .
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  1. Marcus (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. We Have A Job To Do (2:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  3. Money (2:34)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Perimeter Check (3:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  5. The Calm Before The Storm (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  6. The Job (4:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Race Against Time (1:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  8. My Son (2:33)
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  9. Wild Is The Wind - Nina Simone (7:00)
  10. Dice Game - The Cool Kids (3:11)
  11. The Big Unknown - Sade (4:21)
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ThePhantasm reply Replies: 25 || 2019-05-19 22:40:08
when are we gonna have some info on the Dark Phoenix score or even a snippet of what it sounds like. We've heard nothing about the score at all since it was announced that Zimmer was doing it


Jsdamian2019-05-19 23:09:42
You're right, you do not know anything ... I hope that something is published since the movie seems to have problems


MrZimmerFan2019-05-20 09:31:16
Even with problems, the movie scores comes out

I expect a digital release the same day as movie opens


Mephariel2019-05-20 16:36:59
It is fitting that you post this on the Widows page. I am beginning to think most of the score will be like Widows where it is abstract and that is why they haven't use any materials in the promo. I could be wrong though.

I don't know what to expect at this point. Dark Phoenix from what I heard is a drama not really a straight up action film and there are romantic elements in it too. An action/romance/drama score from Zimmer sounds fantastic on paper.


George2019-05-20 17:51:37
Iím getting a little nervous to be honest. I could care less how the movie ends up, but something had to have made him want to do this after the infamous superhero retirement quote.

To be fair, we didnít know anything about Aquamanís music beforehand or even Wonder Woman other than her main theme, and both of those were amazing from RGW.

So who knows. I REALLY hope itís not like Widows at all.


mpolonest123 2019-05-20 18:05:06
What Iím curious about is if the delays in the release date, PLUS the reshoots, had any impact on Zimmerís music.
The test-screenings supposedly didnít go well, I doubt it would affect the score all that much but at this point who really knows.


George2019-05-20 18:15:04
I thought that was the earlier test screenings and the more recent ones were more well received? I could be wrong though.

Itíll be interesting because the director definitely seemed excited about HZ composing the score. So that would make you think itís got some potential. But we also havenít been hearing much about the movie at all lately, let alone hearing about the score so who really knows anything at this point?


MrZimmerFan2019-05-20 18:43:07
Remember, this is a business, the studio want the movie be know, one aspect is the music.

Recent example: Hellboy, the score came out by Sony Classical


Anonymous2019-05-20 18:54:09
there have been many cases of a score getting replaced/rehashed/rejected/what have you after a test screening and its because the studio execs think people dont like the music. so it could be the music or it could be another case who knows i guess well have to wait and see


MrZimmerFan2019-05-20 18:59:42
If Hans Zimmer was replaced, Internet burn




Mephariel2019-05-20 19:59:10
I don't think Zimmer has been replaced. Back in the end of April, Simon Kinberg was beaming about how he got Hans Zimmer to do this score by irritating him. He even shown 2 clips with Zimmer's music and some of the audience members mentioned how cool the music was.

Tina Guo also stated she can't wait to hear it and she worked on it herself. And this was in May. If they replaced Zimmer, it must be the quickest, most silent replacement ever.

Could it happen? Yeah. I don't think it is likely.


George2019-05-20 20:02:52
No way has he been replaced. Thereís literally no way.


Hybrid Soldier2019-05-20 22:37:02
Hans was replaced...


By Hans... ;)


He wrote hours & hours & hours & hours of music for that film in the past 1.5 years...


Mephariel2019-05-21 01:22:59
Can't wait to hear some of it. I wonder what Zimmer thought about John Powell's take on Dark Phoenix.


mpolonest123 2019-05-21 02:52:48
Hans is versatile AND fast, which is why he ever gets replaced.

And going off of what Hybrid said it sounds like this score is going to be really interesting (and hopefully a bit of a mess, which usually make for the best scores)


George2019-05-21 03:48:23
@mpolonest123 good point. Maybe weíll get a ďman of steelĒ suite round two ;)


George2019-05-21 03:52:30
/www.reddit.com/ r/xmen/comments/bo7t0f/first_listen_of_hans_zimmers_xmen_dar k_phoenix/?utm_ source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

This was on Snapchat a few days ago. I think itís HZís music (maybe Hybrid can confirm).. Sounds pretty awesome!


ThePhantasm2019-05-21 05:33:52
link doesn't work, i was really hoping it would cause I'm dying to know what he does with it


George2019-05-21 05:43:59
You need to take out the spaces in the URL.


daniel2019-05-21 05:45:43
https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=aG1nWuYFkTM

there's some music at the end of the clip


ThePhantasm2019-05-21 05:49:58
thank you bro


Jean-Luc2019-05-22 00:41:41
Everybody who wanna to see X-Men Dark Phoenix to hear Hans Zimmer what he did for score the whole movie. I hope it would be epic score and fun too.


Nick2019-05-22 01:18:59
@George

Sounds kind of like Inferno. It has the same electronic pulsing chord-based vibe to it. I wouldn't necessarily say that's a good thing though. We'll just have to wait for the whole score.


mpolonest123 2019-05-22 05:35:50
That sounds so much like Inferno, even down to the choral sound design elements from ďScience and ReligionĒ that carried over from A&D.

Hereís a little bit more music...
https://youtu. be/RrYJcrGw JbE


Mephariel2019-05-22 07:57:12
Love the music during the Quicksilver scene. Fits the scene perfectly.


George2019-05-22 14:16:56
That Quicksilver scene music is awesome.. okay I donít think we need to be worried anymore. Lol.

monstersinmovies reply Replies: 0 || 2019-04-23 03:37:52
the zimmer info available on this site is always fun to read. thanks to hybrid and the rest for providing a fun place to discuss and review. if any fellow fans are interested in a run through of my entire physical Hans collection, check this out :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsSQ6ohbFc8


nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-10 14:24:23
love this small production! it's like a gift from Hans and team to score fans. or it's like them making a statement. or also like them trying to prove something. true, doesn't have a lot of music or composition moments. doesn't feel like a big production. but it is a very good score. i am learning a lot from it. but, well, my opinion might not be the same as everybody's. especially on this very forum : )

here's what i learned so far. you can make a good score with only few musical elements. this score has melodic cues (composed with the same theme from what i can tell) for the human aspect. and textural compositions for anything related to the "job". the only exception is the piano sequence for "calm before the storm". speaking of that, dark night also has a "calm before storm" cue. i need to go back and listen to that one to see how the musical elements differ. i could swear that DK "calm before storm" didn't have a piano. the catwoman theme is the only thing i can remember having a melancholic piano. so there is something to learn there.

the other thing i learned is that you can compose with non-pitched sound designs and textures. i know dunkirk already offered something similar but this does deeper. with widows, i can hear composition patterns with the textures and percussion instruments. it's like they composed first with instruments we know and expect. and then replaced them with percussions and textures? who knows? for example in "the job" cue, there that one percussion instrument that i heard only once. i mean it sounded once in a 5-minutes cue. it could be a mistake. but it could be deliberate as well. that's what is exciting for me about this score.

in sum, this is a score for long time fans and people who are learning this stuff. others who are expecting big moments and grandiose orchestral techniques won't be happy. but if you have been following for a while, you will notice the subtleties and i keep finding new things. being short is actually good for learning purpose as well : )

speaking of teaching material, would be awesome we get another sketchbook cue. the man of steel one is the best gift ever given to us.

Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-07 05:20:54
BOOKLET CREDITS:

Music Composed By
HANS ZIMMER

Soundtrack Album Executive Producer
STEVE McQUEEN

Additional Music By
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Production Services
STEVEN KOFSKY

Music Editor
CLINT BENNETT

Technical Score Engineers
CHUCK CHOI
STEVEN DOAR

Synth Programming
HANS ZIMMER

Orchestrated By
SHANE RUTHERFOOD-JONES

Orchestra Contractor
ISOBEL GRIFFITHS

Music Preparation
JILL STREATER

Overdubs Engineer
NICK TAYLOR

Assistant Overdubs Engineer
OLLY THOMPSON

Air-Edel Studios Bookings
TOM BULLEN

Conducted By
ROBERT ZIEGLER

Violins Leader
THOMAS BOWES

Cello Leader
CAROLINE DALE

Double Bass
ANDY PASK
MARY SCULLY

Percussion
LUIS JARDIM

Score Recorded By
NICK WOLLAGE

Pro-Tools Recordist
CHRIS BARRETT

Assistant Score Engineer
LAWRENCE ANSLOW

Air Studios Bookings
ALISON BURTON

Score Mixed By
STEPHEN LIPSON

Additional Score Mixed By
NICK WOLLAGE

Studio Manager For Remote Control Productions
SHALINI SINGH

Assistants To Hans Zimmer
CYNTHIA PARK
NICOLE JACOB

Digital Instrument Design
MARK WHERRY

Digital Instrument Preparation
TAUREES HABIB
RAUL VEGA

Album Mastered By
DAN HERSCH
At
D2 MASTERING LOS ANGELES

Album Produced By
HANS ZIMMER
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Legal Services
CHRISTINE BERGREN
CANDACE CARLO

Original Film Score Published By
REMOTE CONTROL PRODUCTIONS (ASCAP)

Hans Zimmer And Steve McQueen Would Like To Thank:
IAIN CANNING
EMILE SHERMAN
ARNON MILCHAN
JOE WALKER
IAN NEIL
EMMA ZEE
SAMANTHA JOLY
JAMES HARRISON
PAUL COTTERELL
GILBERT LAKE
ELISSA LOPARCO
DANIELLE DIEGO
REBECCA MORELATTO
BRIANNE PORCARO
JOHNNY CHOI
RACHEL DAVIS
URS HECKMANN
JILLIAN ABBOD
BEBE LERNER
RAE MURILLO And THE ID TEAM
RYAN OUCHIDA
JULIAN PASTORELLI
SETH WALDMANN
BRIGITTE ZIMMER
VICKI ZIMMER
SUZANNE ZIMMER
ZOE, JAKE, MAX & ANNABEL

Executive Album Producers For Milan Records
JC CHAMBOREDON
STEFAN KARRER

Production Manager
PABLO MANYER

Graphic Design And Layout
SHAWN LYON

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-06 19:34:01
Widows Didnít nominated for any categories of golden globes. I so disappointed


Mephariel2018-12-06 23:15:13
Didn't have enough music I think.

Mephariel reply Replies: 1 || 2018-11-16 08:17:44
Widows is actually a pretty interesting score. Not one of Zimmer's best from for an isolated listening experience standpoint, but as a textual score, I was engaged for the most part. The score effectively builds momentum throughout from beginning to end and I could feel the movie just by listening to the music.


Kalman2018-11-16 14:27:38
I haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.

meta reply Replies: 5 || 2018-11-12 03:20:44
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049....

Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.


superultramegaa2018-11-12 03:54:41
I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.


Edmund Meinerts2018-11-14 15:17:48
That collaboration was barely a year ago. This is literally Zimmer's first significant score since then. You can't deduce a pattern from two data points.


Mephariel2018-11-14 16:56:07
Plus, Blue Planet II came out last year. That score is as far from Widows as possible.


George2018-11-14 19:38:42
Yeah seriously, he hasnít done much in a year plus. Heís definitely taken some time off for touring and other things, which may be a great thing for his inspiration... who knows, but Iím guessing the time off has let his brain take a break and maybe he has a ton of new ideas for the big 3 (WW:84, Dark Phoenix, Lion King) coming up in the next year and a half.

Or maybe Iím just hopeful/wishful thinking lol.


Jsdamian2018-11-15 00:14:15
And top gun:maverick....big 4

Hari Haran reply Replies: 2 || 2018-11-11 20:14:39
I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well.

Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things.

I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.


mpolonest1232018-11-12 03:35:00
I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I donít personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.

The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I canít wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.


Josiah2018-11-14 07:47:13
Well, if you check what Hans Zimmer did recently there wasn't much material for him to write a good theme too. A lot of it was types of movies that were synth type music. I think The Dark Phoenix and Wonder Woman (apart from his amazing theme for her already) will have some good typical Hans Zimmer feel to it which I am excited for.

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2018-11-05 05:23:54
I'm going to assume this album is the whole score, based on Hybrid's comments?


Hybrid Soldier2018-11-05 12:31:19
It is...


Anonymous2018-11-05 16:59:51
so out of a 130 min movie we get 22 min of score. thats an hour and 48 minutes with no score.....


Max Potcats2018-11-05 17:45:09
That's right, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. The less music there is, the more powerful and meaningful it will be when there is. This is a very interesting decision IMO, can't wait to see the movie.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 02:43:49
Having only seen 12YAS, I have full confidence the film will be well done. Say what you will about his music choices, I personally think Steve McQueen is a brilliant filmmaker. If nothing else, the performances should be stunning.

And as far as the score goes, there are plenty of films which make use of silence or sound design without relying on music, so itís definitely not uncommon.


Mephariel2018-11-06 06:53:10
No doubt McQueen is a great filmmaker and to be honest, his lack of music in his movies never bothered me.

It is crazy that Zimmer is working with 3 of the most talented auteur directors today: Nolan, Villeneuve, and McQueen.


...2018-11-06 12:20:24
The score is very dark. Kind of a thriller version of Dunkirk in places. a lot of rhythmic synths.


...2018-11-06 12:24:17
A lot of it sounds like a mix of the joker.


JamesT2018-11-06 15:51:07
Is that observation based on the one track The Job thatís been released or have you heard the remainder of the score?


...2018-11-06 16:56:14
No I've listened to the whole album. Marcus and My Son are slow and sad pieces for strings and, calm before the storm is kind of quiet with some piano but the rest is suspense like the joker with Dunkirk mixed in.

I am guessing it works great in the movie but as a standalone listen it's not one of Zimmer's most memorable scores.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 23:28:05
After one listen I can definitely tell this is something a lot of people wonít like outside of the context of the film. Itís a very ďbare-bonesĒ type of score.
You have the stretched note string music overlaid with ambience, and the grungy ďDunkirk/JokerĒ electronics.

Personally I like the action music here, regardless of how similar it is to Zimmerís other scores. ďRace Against TimeĒ is particular intense. The emotional music, on the other hand, didnít really do much for me. I am interested to hear it in context, but donít go in with high expectations.


Mike2018-11-07 01:50:08
Really, now that I've heard it, this score just sounds like "Dunkirk ó The Rejected Stuff." lol. That's saying nothing about how it does in context or whether it does what McQueen wants. But it definitely kind of just sounds like Hans had some leftover ideas from Dunkirk and used this movie for them.


Meta2018-11-07 02:02:13
NOte to John Carpenter:

NOW IS THE TIME. SEIZE THE DAY!


MrMayo2018-11-08 14:44:46
Not complete,that last song isn't going to be played by Sad,but going to be played by SADE..That's something else..I say.


Kalman2018-11-08 19:25:39
The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.

Andreas reply Replies: 12 || 2018-10-25 20:02:07
track 6 already available: https://soundcloud.com/ milanrecords/thejob


mpolonest1232018-10-25 21:04:46
It sounds like a grungier Dunkirk, Iím interested in what the more ďthematicĒ sound will be....


Edmund Meinerts2018-10-26 12:58:14
That description doesn't exactly inspire my confidence.


mpolonest1232018-10-26 15:36:24
@Edmund
Itís pretty much exactly what I expected this to sound like, going off of the reviews that mentioned the score beforehand. If I had to guess, half will sound like Dunkirk/TDK (the heist portions) while the other half will probably be more traditional Zimmer string writing.


Mephariel2018-10-26 16:47:37
Agree with mpolonest123.

I do really like the Shekere portion of the the cue "The Job." I think it adds a very unique touch to the music.


Jsdamian2018-10-26 17:41:10
I have confidence in the tracks 1,5,7,8


MrZimmerFan2018-10-26 19:02:41
Don't expected something orchestral, i got a feeling this score will be enteraily electronic


Mephariel2018-10-26 19:25:13
I think during an interview, Zimmer confirmed that there will be strings sections, so not 100% electronic.


Ahmad2018-10-27 02:13:33
Well, I think we know already that "orchestral" does not equal "thematic". He could have the players bang on their instruments with a toothpick (JK). :D

I really love this kind of stuff, so I enjoyed the track. Can't wait to see the film/hear the rest of the score.


Michael2018-10-27 13:07:02
Is Balfe involved ?Sounding very 13 Hours.


Mike2018-10-27 20:21:33
Zimmer produced 13 Hours...


Micheal 2018-10-29 00:05:20
Mike-is Zimmer on the cue sheet for 13 Hours ?


Mike2018-10-29 06:24:15
Actually, Hybrid said Hans did get credit for one cue on that score...

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-28 20:10:22
@ Hybrid, this commercial edition will get all the music Zimmer wrote, i mean, the 20 minutes of all the score?

Jsdamian reply Replies: 8 || 2018-10-10 23:35:24
Waiting!!


Jsdamian2018-10-17 16:44:51
Nominated in Hollywood media award best score film.


michael2018-10-17 17:45:13
and the film has yet to open. who even nominated it? the people in the industry. they award themselves. goes to show how much of a sham it all is.


Mephariel2018-10-17 19:06:42
The film premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival back in September and was reviewed by like 50+ critics already.


michael2018-10-17 19:22:40
yeah. critics. who the hell nominated it for the music? the general public hasnít even seen or heard it yet.


Iamtommie2018-10-17 20:24:48
FYC albums is the thing studios use for these kind of nominations.


Mephariel2018-10-17 22:02:10
I don't think you want the general public nominating film scores.


Jsdamian2018-10-18 00:00:29
It was also nominated for interstellar and the film had not yet been shown ... the most important thing is that there can be great music in this movie


michael2018-10-18 00:07:08
the likes of which well never hear outside of the film. our only hope is if someone gets the fyc album and shares it

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