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I'd love to see Hans do another historical epic, for the record. I'm sure he'd say he's moved on from that sound, but personally, I miss it. That being said, Harry Gregson-Williams did good work here. Even if he then copied and pasted whole sections for Narnia. lol.Music editors loved their Gladiator temp too muchWhat was the reason of their swap? Why did Hans Zimmer quit Kigdom of HeavenHybrid wrote somewhere here that something happened between Streitenfeld and Ridley during Prometheus,and that was why HG-W was brought on for some rescoringI was wondering about this too. Like all of a sudden, after a couple of Ridley Scott collaborations, he disappeared.
Streitenfeld's score for "All I See Is You" isn't added to this site. Does it mean, that Marc left the company?Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5
Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???
I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.
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Widows
Label: Milan Records
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  1. Marcus (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. We Have A Job To Do (2:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  3. Money (2:34)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Perimeter Check (3:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  5. The Calm Before The Storm (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  6. The Job (4:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Race Against Time (1:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  8. My Son (2:33)
    Hans Zimmer
  9. Wild Is The Wind - Nina Simone (7:00)
  10. Dice Game - The Cool Kids (3:11)
  11. The Big Unknown - Sade (4:21)
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nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-10 14:24:23
love this small production! it's like a gift from Hans and team to score fans. or it's like them making a statement. or also like them trying to prove something. true, doesn't have a lot of music or composition moments. doesn't feel like a big production. but it is a very good score. i am learning a lot from it. but, well, my opinion might not be the same as everybody's. especially on this very forum : )

here's what i learned so far. you can make a good score with only few musical elements. this score has melodic cues (composed with the same theme from what i can tell) for the human aspect. and textural compositions for anything related to the "job". the only exception is the piano sequence for "calm before the storm". speaking of that, dark night also has a "calm before storm" cue. i need to go back and listen to that one to see how the musical elements differ. i could swear that DK "calm before storm" didn't have a piano. the catwoman theme is the only thing i can remember having a melancholic piano. so there is something to learn there.

the other thing i learned is that you can compose with non-pitched sound designs and textures. i know dunkirk already offered something similar but this does deeper. with widows, i can hear composition patterns with the textures and percussion instruments. it's like they composed first with instruments we know and expect. and then replaced them with percussions and textures? who knows? for example in "the job" cue, there that one percussion instrument that i heard only once. i mean it sounded once in a 5-minutes cue. it could be a mistake. but it could be deliberate as well. that's what is exciting for me about this score.

in sum, this is a score for long time fans and people who are learning this stuff. others who are expecting big moments and grandiose orchestral techniques won't be happy. but if you have been following for a while, you will notice the subtleties and i keep finding new things. being short is actually good for learning purpose as well : )

speaking of teaching material, would be awesome we get another sketchbook cue. the man of steel one is the best gift ever given to us.

Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-07 05:20:54
BOOKLET CREDITS:

Music Composed By
HANS ZIMMER

Soundtrack Album Executive Producer
STEVE McQUEEN

Additional Music By
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Production Services
STEVEN KOFSKY

Music Editor
CLINT BENNETT

Technical Score Engineers
CHUCK CHOI
STEVEN DOAR

Synth Programming
HANS ZIMMER

Orchestrated By
SHANE RUTHERFOOD-JONES

Orchestra Contractor
ISOBEL GRIFFITHS

Music Preparation
JILL STREATER

Overdubs Engineer
NICK TAYLOR

Assistant Overdubs Engineer
OLLY THOMPSON

Air-Edel Studios Bookings
TOM BULLEN

Conducted By
ROBERT ZIEGLER

Violins Leader
THOMAS BOWES

Cello Leader
CAROLINE DALE

Double Bass
ANDY PASK
MARY SCULLY

Percussion
LUIS JARDIM

Score Recorded By
NICK WOLLAGE

Pro-Tools Recordist
CHRIS BARRETT

Assistant Score Engineer
LAWRENCE ANSLOW

Air Studios Bookings
ALISON BURTON

Score Mixed By
STEPHEN LIPSON

Additional Score Mixed By
NICK WOLLAGE

Studio Manager For Remote Control Productions
SHALINI SINGH

Assistants To Hans Zimmer
CYNTHIA PARK
NICOLE JACOB

Digital Instrument Design
MARK WHERRY

Digital Instrument Preparation
TAUREES HABIB
RAUL VEGA

Album Mastered By
DAN HERSCH
At
D2 MASTERING LOS ANGELES

Album Produced By
HANS ZIMMER
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Legal Services
CHRISTINE BERGREN
CANDACE CARLO

Original Film Score Published By
REMOTE CONTROL PRODUCTIONS (ASCAP)

Hans Zimmer And Steve McQueen Would Like To Thank:
IAIN CANNING
EMILE SHERMAN
ARNON MILCHAN
JOE WALKER
IAN NEIL
EMMA ZEE
SAMANTHA JOLY
JAMES HARRISON
PAUL COTTERELL
GILBERT LAKE
ELISSA LOPARCO
DANIELLE DIEGO
REBECCA MORELATTO
BRIANNE PORCARO
JOHNNY CHOI
RACHEL DAVIS
URS HECKMANN
JILLIAN ABBOD
BEBE LERNER
RAE MURILLO And THE ID TEAM
RYAN OUCHIDA
JULIAN PASTORELLI
SETH WALDMANN
BRIGITTE ZIMMER
VICKI ZIMMER
SUZANNE ZIMMER
ZOE, JAKE, MAX & ANNABEL

Executive Album Producers For Milan Records
JC CHAMBOREDON
STEFAN KARRER

Production Manager
PABLO MANYER

Graphic Design And Layout
SHAWN LYON

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-06 19:34:01
Widows Didnít nominated for any categories of golden globes. I so disappointed


Mephariel2018-12-06 23:15:13
Didn't have enough music I think.

Mephariel reply Replies: 1 || 2018-11-16 08:17:44
Widows is actually a pretty interesting score. Not one of Zimmer's best from for an isolated listening experience standpoint, but as a textual score, I was engaged for the most part. The score effectively builds momentum throughout from beginning to end and I could feel the movie just by listening to the music.


Kalman2018-11-16 14:27:38
I haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.

meta reply Replies: 5 || 2018-11-12 03:20:44
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049....

Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.

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superultramegaa2018-11-12 03:54:41
I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.


Edmund Meinerts2018-11-14 15:17:48
That collaboration was barely a year ago. This is literally Zimmer's first significant score since then. You can't deduce a pattern from two data points.


Mephariel2018-11-14 16:56:07
Plus, Blue Planet II came out last year. That score is as far from Widows as possible.


George2018-11-14 19:38:42
Yeah seriously, he hasnít done much in a year plus. Heís definitely taken some time off for touring and other things, which may be a great thing for his inspiration... who knows, but Iím guessing the time off has let his brain take a break and maybe he has a ton of new ideas for the big 3 (WW:84, Dark Phoenix, Lion King) coming up in the next year and a half.

Or maybe Iím just hopeful/wishful thinking lol.


Jsdamian2018-11-15 00:14:15
And top gun:maverick....big 4

Hari Haran reply Replies: 2 || 2018-11-11 20:14:39
I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well.

Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things.

I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.


mpolonest1232018-11-12 03:35:00
I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I donít personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.

The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I canít wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.


Josiah2018-11-14 07:47:13
Well, if you check what Hans Zimmer did recently there wasn't much material for him to write a good theme too. A lot of it was types of movies that were synth type music. I think The Dark Phoenix and Wonder Woman (apart from his amazing theme for her already) will have some good typical Hans Zimmer feel to it which I am excited for.

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2018-11-05 05:23:54
I'm going to assume this album is the whole score, based on Hybrid's comments?


Hybrid Soldier2018-11-05 12:31:19
It is...


Anonymous2018-11-05 16:59:51
so out of a 130 min movie we get 22 min of score. thats an hour and 48 minutes with no score.....


Max Potcats2018-11-05 17:45:09
That's right, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. The less music there is, the more powerful and meaningful it will be when there is. This is a very interesting decision IMO, can't wait to see the movie.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 02:43:49
Having only seen 12YAS, I have full confidence the film will be well done. Say what you will about his music choices, I personally think Steve McQueen is a brilliant filmmaker. If nothing else, the performances should be stunning.

And as far as the score goes, there are plenty of films which make use of silence or sound design without relying on music, so itís definitely not uncommon.


Mephariel2018-11-06 06:53:10
No doubt McQueen is a great filmmaker and to be honest, his lack of music in his movies never bothered me.

It is crazy that Zimmer is working with 3 of the most talented auteur directors today: Nolan, Villeneuve, and McQueen.


...2018-11-06 12:20:24
The score is very dark. Kind of a thriller version of Dunkirk in places. a lot of rhythmic synths.


...2018-11-06 12:24:17
A lot of it sounds like a mix of the joker.


JamesT2018-11-06 15:51:07
Is that observation based on the one track The Job thatís been released or have you heard the remainder of the score?


...2018-11-06 16:56:14
No I've listened to the whole album. Marcus and My Son are slow and sad pieces for strings and, calm before the storm is kind of quiet with some piano but the rest is suspense like the joker with Dunkirk mixed in.

I am guessing it works great in the movie but as a standalone listen it's not one of Zimmer's most memorable scores.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 23:28:05
After one listen I can definitely tell this is something a lot of people wonít like outside of the context of the film. Itís a very ďbare-bonesĒ type of score.
You have the stretched note string music overlaid with ambience, and the grungy ďDunkirk/JokerĒ electronics.

Personally I like the action music here, regardless of how similar it is to Zimmerís other scores. ďRace Against TimeĒ is particular intense. The emotional music, on the other hand, didnít really do much for me. I am interested to hear it in context, but donít go in with high expectations.


Mike2018-11-07 01:50:08
Really, now that I've heard it, this score just sounds like "Dunkirk ó The Rejected Stuff." lol. That's saying nothing about how it does in context or whether it does what McQueen wants. But it definitely kind of just sounds like Hans had some leftover ideas from Dunkirk and used this movie for them.


Meta2018-11-07 02:02:13
NOte to John Carpenter:

NOW IS THE TIME. SEIZE THE DAY!


MrMayo2018-11-08 14:44:46
Not complete,that last song isn't going to be played by Sad,but going to be played by SADE..That's something else..I say.


Kalman2018-11-08 19:25:39
The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.

Andreas reply Replies: 12 || 2018-10-25 20:02:07
track 6 already available: https://soundcloud.com/ milanrecords/thejob


mpolonest1232018-10-25 21:04:46
It sounds like a grungier Dunkirk, Iím interested in what the more ďthematicĒ sound will be....


Edmund Meinerts2018-10-26 12:58:14
That description doesn't exactly inspire my confidence.


mpolonest1232018-10-26 15:36:24
@Edmund
Itís pretty much exactly what I expected this to sound like, going off of the reviews that mentioned the score beforehand. If I had to guess, half will sound like Dunkirk/TDK (the heist portions) while the other half will probably be more traditional Zimmer string writing.


Mephariel2018-10-26 16:47:37
Agree with mpolonest123.

I do really like the Shekere portion of the the cue "The Job." I think it adds a very unique touch to the music.


Jsdamian2018-10-26 17:41:10
I have confidence in the tracks 1,5,7,8


MrZimmerFan2018-10-26 19:02:41
Don't expected something orchestral, i got a feeling this score will be enteraily electronic


Mephariel2018-10-26 19:25:13
I think during an interview, Zimmer confirmed that there will be strings sections, so not 100% electronic.


Ahmad2018-10-27 02:13:33
Well, I think we know already that "orchestral" does not equal "thematic". He could have the players bang on their instruments with a toothpick (JK). :D

I really love this kind of stuff, so I enjoyed the track. Can't wait to see the film/hear the rest of the score.


Michael2018-10-27 13:07:02
Is Balfe involved ?Sounding very 13 Hours.


Mike2018-10-27 20:21:33
Zimmer produced 13 Hours...


Micheal 2018-10-29 00:05:20
Mike-is Zimmer on the cue sheet for 13 Hours ?


Mike2018-10-29 06:24:15
Actually, Hybrid said Hans did get credit for one cue on that score...

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-28 20:10:22
@ Hybrid, this commercial edition will get all the music Zimmer wrote, i mean, the 20 minutes of all the score?

Jsdamian reply Replies: 8 || 2018-10-10 23:35:24
Waiting!!


Jsdamian2018-10-17 16:44:51
Nominated in Hollywood media award best score film.


michael2018-10-17 17:45:13
and the film has yet to open. who even nominated it? the people in the industry. they award themselves. goes to show how much of a sham it all is.


Mephariel2018-10-17 19:06:42
The film premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival back in September and was reviewed by like 50+ critics already.


michael2018-10-17 19:22:40
yeah. critics. who the hell nominated it for the music? the general public hasnít even seen or heard it yet.


Iamtommie2018-10-17 20:24:48
FYC albums is the thing studios use for these kind of nominations.


Mephariel2018-10-17 22:02:10
I don't think you want the general public nominating film scores.


Jsdamian2018-10-18 00:00:29
It was also nominated for interstellar and the film had not yet been shown ... the most important thing is that there can be great music in this movie


michael2018-10-18 00:07:08
the likes of which well never hear outside of the film. our only hope is if someone gets the fyc album and shares it

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