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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he ďmapped outĒ the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality itís a technically impressive score, I really canít think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a filmís tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well ó the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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  1. Marcus (3:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. We Have A Job To Do (2:33)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  3. Money (2:34)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Perimeter Check (3:09)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  5. The Calm Before The Storm (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  6. The Job (4:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Race Against Time (1:23)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  8. My Son (2:33)
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  9. Wild Is The Wind - Nina Simone (7:00)
  10. Dice Game - The Cool Kids (3:11)
  11. The Big Unknown - Sade (4:21)
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nvictor reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-10 14:24:23
love this small production! it's like a gift from Hans and team to score fans. or it's like them making a statement. or also like them trying to prove something. true, doesn't have a lot of music or composition moments. doesn't feel like a big production. but it is a very good score. i am learning a lot from it. but, well, my opinion might not be the same as everybody's. especially on this very forum : )

here's what i learned so far. you can make a good score with only few musical elements. this score has melodic cues (composed with the same theme from what i can tell) for the human aspect. and textural compositions for anything related to the "job". the only exception is the piano sequence for "calm before the storm". speaking of that, dark night also has a "calm before storm" cue. i need to go back and listen to that one to see how the musical elements differ. i could swear that DK "calm before storm" didn't have a piano. the catwoman theme is the only thing i can remember having a melancholic piano. so there is something to learn there.

the other thing i learned is that you can compose with non-pitched sound designs and textures. i know dunkirk already offered something similar but this does deeper. with widows, i can hear composition patterns with the textures and percussion instruments. it's like they composed first with instruments we know and expect. and then replaced them with percussions and textures? who knows? for example in "the job" cue, there that one percussion instrument that i heard only once. i mean it sounded once in a 5-minutes cue. it could be a mistake. but it could be deliberate as well. that's what is exciting for me about this score.

in sum, this is a score for long time fans and people who are learning this stuff. others who are expecting big moments and grandiose orchestral techniques won't be happy. but if you have been following for a while, you will notice the subtleties and i keep finding new things. being short is actually good for learning purpose as well : )

speaking of teaching material, would be awesome we get another sketchbook cue. the man of steel one is the best gift ever given to us.

Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-07 05:20:54
BOOKLET CREDITS:

Music Composed By
HANS ZIMMER

Soundtrack Album Executive Producer
STEVE McQUEEN

Additional Music By
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Production Services
STEVEN KOFSKY

Music Editor
CLINT BENNETT

Technical Score Engineers
CHUCK CHOI
STEVEN DOAR

Synth Programming
HANS ZIMMER

Orchestrated By
SHANE RUTHERFOOD-JONES

Orchestra Contractor
ISOBEL GRIFFITHS

Music Preparation
JILL STREATER

Overdubs Engineer
NICK TAYLOR

Assistant Overdubs Engineer
OLLY THOMPSON

Air-Edel Studios Bookings
TOM BULLEN

Conducted By
ROBERT ZIEGLER

Violins Leader
THOMAS BOWES

Cello Leader
CAROLINE DALE

Double Bass
ANDY PASK
MARY SCULLY

Percussion
LUIS JARDIM

Score Recorded By
NICK WOLLAGE

Pro-Tools Recordist
CHRIS BARRETT

Assistant Score Engineer
LAWRENCE ANSLOW

Air Studios Bookings
ALISON BURTON

Score Mixed By
STEPHEN LIPSON

Additional Score Mixed By
NICK WOLLAGE

Studio Manager For Remote Control Productions
SHALINI SINGH

Assistants To Hans Zimmer
CYNTHIA PARK
NICOLE JACOB

Digital Instrument Design
MARK WHERRY

Digital Instrument Preparation
TAUREES HABIB
RAUL VEGA

Album Mastered By
DAN HERSCH
At
D2 MASTERING LOS ANGELES

Album Produced By
HANS ZIMMER
STEVE MAZZARO

Music Legal Services
CHRISTINE BERGREN
CANDACE CARLO

Original Film Score Published By
REMOTE CONTROL PRODUCTIONS (ASCAP)

Hans Zimmer And Steve McQueen Would Like To Thank:
IAIN CANNING
EMILE SHERMAN
ARNON MILCHAN
JOE WALKER
IAN NEIL
EMMA ZEE
SAMANTHA JOLY
JAMES HARRISON
PAUL COTTERELL
GILBERT LAKE
ELISSA LOPARCO
DANIELLE DIEGO
REBECCA MORELATTO
BRIANNE PORCARO
JOHNNY CHOI
RACHEL DAVIS
URS HECKMANN
JILLIAN ABBOD
BEBE LERNER
RAE MURILLO And THE ID TEAM
RYAN OUCHIDA
JULIAN PASTORELLI
SETH WALDMANN
BRIGITTE ZIMMER
VICKI ZIMMER
SUZANNE ZIMMER
ZOE, JAKE, MAX & ANNABEL

Executive Album Producers For Milan Records
JC CHAMBOREDON
STEFAN KARRER

Production Manager
PABLO MANYER

Graphic Design And Layout
SHAWN LYON

Anonymous reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-06 19:34:01
Widows Didnít nominated for any categories of golden globes. I so disappointed


Mephariel2018-12-06 23:15:13
Didn't have enough music I think.

Mephariel reply Replies: 1 || 2018-11-16 08:17:44
Widows is actually a pretty interesting score. Not one of Zimmer's best from for an isolated listening experience standpoint, but as a textual score, I was engaged for the most part. The score effectively builds momentum throughout from beginning to end and I could feel the movie just by listening to the music.


Kalman2018-11-16 14:27:38
I haven't seen the movie yet but I like the score more with each listen. Not a classic Zimmer by any means but still an enjoyable listen at its short running time. Looking forward to the movie as well.

meta reply Replies: 5 || 2018-11-12 03:20:44
Not for nothing but it's kinda odd how Zimmer has been declining ever since, IMO, his collaboration with Wallfisch on Blade Runner 2049....

Honestly, I've been straying towards John Carpenter's Halloween 2018 and horror synth ever since....is Zimmer retiring or something? Because I'm finding myself not into him so much, anymore.


superultramegaa2018-11-12 03:54:41
I'm kind of the same way, even on a personal level. The synth and power anthems, even from the Media Ventures era, is just kind of getting old to me. The incessant momentum, the lack of thematic progression, it all wears on you eventually.


Edmund Meinerts2018-11-14 15:17:48
That collaboration was barely a year ago. This is literally Zimmer's first significant score since then. You can't deduce a pattern from two data points.


Mephariel2018-11-14 16:56:07
Plus, Blue Planet II came out last year. That score is as far from Widows as possible.


George2018-11-14 19:38:42
Yeah seriously, he hasnít done much in a year plus. Heís definitely taken some time off for touring and other things, which may be a great thing for his inspiration... who knows, but Iím guessing the time off has let his brain take a break and maybe he has a ton of new ideas for the big 3 (WW:84, Dark Phoenix, Lion King) coming up in the next year and a half.

Or maybe Iím just hopeful/wishful thinking lol.


Jsdamian2018-11-15 00:14:15
And top gun:maverick....big 4

Hari Haran reply Replies: 2 || 2018-11-11 20:14:39
I honestly wasn't expecting much from this film on a musical level, but some tracks that are available are OK to listen to. McQueen has never been a proponent of larger-scale thematic music in his scores, he seems to be a mood-inspired person, and Zimmer can do that very, very well.

Coming back to the music, Zimmer seems to have embraced his textural roots. 2018 has been all about texture really in the action films, i.e. Black Panther's percussion layers, Mission Impossible: Fallout, Widows. Thematically, there seems to be a solemn progression for Marcus that reappears in "My Son", that relies on familiar elements (i.e. drone strings layered on top of each other, lower bass accompaniment), and some of the action textures in "We Have A Job To Do" and "Perimeter Check" is a nice callback to the Media Ventures style of things.

I'm admittedly disappointed with the fact that there is nothing beyond residually, well-anchored momentum and tension to the score,and the album length is shocking. But it is what it is. I love the underlying, throbbing synth bass ripples, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Honestly, it's a one time listen for me. I'm more excited about his dual superhero bonanza return next year- Wonder Woman 1984 and X-Men Dark Phoenix. I'm definitely not expecting him to use John Ottman's brilliant theme for the latter, although I will definitely be impressed if by slight chance, he does. The "Money" is quite soothing in a melancholy way. "The Calm Before The Storm" uses some worthwhile sombre piano treading that I'm always a stickler for.


mpolonest1232018-11-12 03:35:00
I think you really nailed how I feel about this score. I donít personally mind the tense electronic elements (this is music that I can enjoy on its own level) but I do feel let down by the lack of a theme or any solid motif to anchor the music. Especially in the emotional cues.

The one thing that I keep coming back to is how this sounds so much like something Johann Johansson would have written. I actually really like his music style, but it is pretty jarring to see Zimmer do minimalism on this level. No objections here, but I canít wait to get some exciting Zimmer music again.


Josiah2018-11-14 07:47:13
Well, if you check what Hans Zimmer did recently there wasn't much material for him to write a good theme too. A lot of it was types of movies that were synth type music. I think The Dark Phoenix and Wonder Woman (apart from his amazing theme for her already) will have some good typical Hans Zimmer feel to it which I am excited for.

Mike reply Replies: 14 || 2018-11-05 05:23:54
I'm going to assume this album is the whole score, based on Hybrid's comments?


Hybrid Soldier2018-11-05 12:31:19
It is...


Anonymous2018-11-05 16:59:51
so out of a 130 min movie we get 22 min of score. thats an hour and 48 minutes with no score.....


Max Potcats2018-11-05 17:45:09
That's right, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. The less music there is, the more powerful and meaningful it will be when there is. This is a very interesting decision IMO, can't wait to see the movie.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 02:43:49
Having only seen 12YAS, I have full confidence the film will be well done. Say what you will about his music choices, I personally think Steve McQueen is a brilliant filmmaker. If nothing else, the performances should be stunning.

And as far as the score goes, there are plenty of films which make use of silence or sound design without relying on music, so itís definitely not uncommon.


Mephariel2018-11-06 06:53:10
No doubt McQueen is a great filmmaker and to be honest, his lack of music in his movies never bothered me.

It is crazy that Zimmer is working with 3 of the most talented auteur directors today: Nolan, Villeneuve, and McQueen.


...2018-11-06 12:20:24
The score is very dark. Kind of a thriller version of Dunkirk in places. a lot of rhythmic synths.


...2018-11-06 12:24:17
A lot of it sounds like a mix of the joker.


JamesT2018-11-06 15:51:07
Is that observation based on the one track The Job thatís been released or have you heard the remainder of the score?


...2018-11-06 16:56:14
No I've listened to the whole album. Marcus and My Son are slow and sad pieces for strings and, calm before the storm is kind of quiet with some piano but the rest is suspense like the joker with Dunkirk mixed in.

I am guessing it works great in the movie but as a standalone listen it's not one of Zimmer's most memorable scores.


mpolonest1232018-11-06 23:28:05
After one listen I can definitely tell this is something a lot of people wonít like outside of the context of the film. Itís a very ďbare-bonesĒ type of score.
You have the stretched note string music overlaid with ambience, and the grungy ďDunkirk/JokerĒ electronics.

Personally I like the action music here, regardless of how similar it is to Zimmerís other scores. ďRace Against TimeĒ is particular intense. The emotional music, on the other hand, didnít really do much for me. I am interested to hear it in context, but donít go in with high expectations.


Mike2018-11-07 01:50:08
Really, now that I've heard it, this score just sounds like "Dunkirk ó The Rejected Stuff." lol. That's saying nothing about how it does in context or whether it does what McQueen wants. But it definitely kind of just sounds like Hans had some leftover ideas from Dunkirk and used this movie for them.


Meta2018-11-07 02:02:13
NOte to John Carpenter:

NOW IS THE TIME. SEIZE THE DAY!


MrMayo2018-11-08 14:44:46
Not complete,that last song isn't going to be played by Sad,but going to be played by SADE..That's something else..I say.


Kalman2018-11-08 19:25:39
The tracks Marcus and My Son have some very strong Morricone resemblance. They're similar how the Italian Maestro usually introduces/builds up many of his slow and heartbreaking melodies. The difference is that Zimmer doesn't really build up a theme, therefore it sounds as a long introduction of a never written Morricone theme. Still, I like it.

Andreas reply Replies: 12 || 2018-10-25 20:02:07
track 6 already available: https://soundcloud.com/ milanrecords/thejob


mpolonest1232018-10-25 21:04:46
It sounds like a grungier Dunkirk, Iím interested in what the more ďthematicĒ sound will be....


Edmund Meinerts2018-10-26 12:58:14
That description doesn't exactly inspire my confidence.


mpolonest1232018-10-26 15:36:24
@Edmund
Itís pretty much exactly what I expected this to sound like, going off of the reviews that mentioned the score beforehand. If I had to guess, half will sound like Dunkirk/TDK (the heist portions) while the other half will probably be more traditional Zimmer string writing.


Mephariel2018-10-26 16:47:37
Agree with mpolonest123.

I do really like the Shekere portion of the the cue "The Job." I think it adds a very unique touch to the music.


Jsdamian2018-10-26 17:41:10
I have confidence in the tracks 1,5,7,8


MrZimmerFan2018-10-26 19:02:41
Don't expected something orchestral, i got a feeling this score will be enteraily electronic


Mephariel2018-10-26 19:25:13
I think during an interview, Zimmer confirmed that there will be strings sections, so not 100% electronic.


Ahmad2018-10-27 02:13:33
Well, I think we know already that "orchestral" does not equal "thematic". He could have the players bang on their instruments with a toothpick (JK). :D

I really love this kind of stuff, so I enjoyed the track. Can't wait to see the film/hear the rest of the score.


Michael2018-10-27 13:07:02
Is Balfe involved ?Sounding very 13 Hours.


Mike2018-10-27 20:21:33
Zimmer produced 13 Hours...


Micheal 2018-10-29 00:05:20
Mike-is Zimmer on the cue sheet for 13 Hours ?


Mike2018-10-29 06:24:15
Actually, Hybrid said Hans did get credit for one cue on that score...

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2018-10-28 20:10:22
@ Hybrid, this commercial edition will get all the music Zimmer wrote, i mean, the 20 minutes of all the score?

Jsdamian reply Replies: 8 || 2018-10-10 23:35:24
Waiting!!


Jsdamian2018-10-17 16:44:51
Nominated in Hollywood media award best score film.


michael2018-10-17 17:45:13
and the film has yet to open. who even nominated it? the people in the industry. they award themselves. goes to show how much of a sham it all is.


Mephariel2018-10-17 19:06:42
The film premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival back in September and was reviewed by like 50+ critics already.


michael2018-10-17 19:22:40
yeah. critics. who the hell nominated it for the music? the general public hasnít even seen or heard it yet.


Iamtommie2018-10-17 20:24:48
FYC albums is the thing studios use for these kind of nominations.


Mephariel2018-10-17 22:02:10
I don't think you want the general public nominating film scores.


Jsdamian2018-10-18 00:00:29
It was also nominated for interstellar and the film had not yet been shown ... the most important thing is that there can be great music in this movie


michael2018-10-18 00:07:08
the likes of which well never hear outside of the film. our only hope is if someone gets the fyc album and shares it

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