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Anyone know of a proper chronological listing of this score? I tried cross-referencing it with the expanded listed here and made this:<br><br>01 Dublin, 1996<br>02 <br>03 <br>04 <br>05 Second Warning<br>06 Research<br>07 Driving<br>08 The Beating<br>09 Traynor Lies<br>10 Never Show Your Fear<br>11 Preparations<br>12 The Killing<br>13 Bad News<br>14 The Funeral<br>15 One More Day<br><br>But I have no idea where Conversations, First Warning, and Deceit goes, and I'm not sure if Traynor Lies and Driving are placed correctlyif you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap<br>..................<br><br>Fair enough....But look back on the comment itself. It's kinda confusing. The way you wrote it created the illusion that Lorne not only ghostwrote the score, but he also dismissed it as crap. You didn't say "I dismissed the rumor". You said: "...a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap." <br> <br><br>Anyway, moving on.....<br><br>Steve was interviewed a lot about The Last Knight and it's pretty obvious that he worked hard on that score. From the day they started shooting the movie. Was he supported by other composers? Absolutely. You can't score such a huge movie by yourself. Any composer who claims that is lying.<br><br>So there's nothing shocking or surprising about the fact that other composers were involved here. As for them being "Lorne's people"......well, considering how MV/RC-related composers work and how interconnected everything is, the "Lorne guys" could very well be friends with Steve too and perhaps he simply brought them on board. Or they were recommended by Lorne. It certainly doesn't mean that there was this top secret plan of them and Lorne actually ghostwriting the entire score. I still wonder tho......how do these rumors even come up? Who spreads them? And why? I ask because this is not the first time I've heard rumors about Zimmer scores and Jablonsky scores. It's always these two guys. Which happen to be two of the most prominent and popular MV/RC guys. Coincidence? Not to sound like a conspiracy nut, but it kinda makes me think that someone is intentionally trying to undermine the biggest MV/RC names by constantly throwing shade at their work."Deserving" is a word that doesn't exist in Hollywood, so stop thinking that way... lolThe problem I have with Junkie XL scoring Avatar is just that there are so many RCP composers better or more deserving. You have Zimmer, Powell, Gregson-Williams, Mancina, Jackman, Wallfisch...it is just so wrong to think Junkie XL is scoring Avatar and none of those guys are.I think that Tim Miller played a greater role in case of Terminator and Sonic. And I really don't see Junkie as good choice for Avatar 2.
@Edmund <br>I still stand by my opinion that Holkenborg scoring Avatar 2 could be pretty interesting. Pairing him up with a director who is known to be strict with his musical choices and continuing on from James Horner’s classic might produce something really good. And seeing his gradual progress as a composer with Mortal Engines and Alita have personally given me some hope (2 years ago I would have said hell no).<br><br>And I’m not surprised by the choice for T6. Not looking forward to this project at all but we did get a cool score from Balfe for the last one so maybe there is some hope for the music at least.I think Terminator is a decent match for JXL's talents (listen to "The March" from Divergent), but this feels like further evidence that James Cameron is grooming him for Avatar 2, which I really hope ends up not being the case.Yes, Tom will be scoring the new Terminator movieChill out Bayhem, if you read my first sentence you can see I dismisded this rumor as crap.<br>But seeing people from his team ivolved and considering the fast and furious situation, I can’t help but wondering if there’s some truth to that rumor.<br>Now for a guy talking about haters, saying that Lorne scores 36million projects and B movies (forgetting mission impossible) I think you’re pushing it a bit.<br>Anyway no hate I don’t care who wrote it I’m just curious about the behind the scenes stuff.You're reaching there a bit Bayhem, I see no one in this thread trying to undermine Steve's work or the score. Hell the first poster was just asking if Lorne worked on it and if so, to what extent. And the "rumor comment" is a logical extension of Lorne's whole regular team being credited on the score, therefore it is possible that he did additional work on it.
Again a "rumor" comment that's trying to undermine Steve's work. And in this case, an entire score. Lorne fans, please stop trying to constantly undermine other composers in favor of your guy. It's childish and extremely disrespectful. You've done it multiple times on these boards. What's next? You gonna claim that Lorne secretly scored the entire Transformers franchise? And Lord of the Rings. And Harry Potter. <br><br>Seriously, it's getting really old, really fast. <br><br>Not to mention the fact that Steve, as a composer, is much, much more experienced and established than Lorne. He's got nothing to prove. Steve takes his time when it comes to scoring. He's choosing carefully. He's got more than enough time to focus on his projects. While Lorne's name is attached to 30 million different projects, some of them cheap B-movies like Hurricane Heist. And you think he's scoring them all by himself? The irony of it all is that if anyone is using ghostwriters most of the time, it's Lorne. Not Steve. And I'm saying that as a Lorne fan as well. I'm not just a Jablonsky fan. I appreciate Lorne's work as well. But I'm not undermining other composers in favor of him.Bay has Lorne scoring his films now cause they established a relationship on 13 Hours, and Bay didn't even want Lorne for that; he wanted Hans but he didn't want to go through the exhausting process of another Bay blockbuster so he brought in Lorne instead.<br>And even then, Hans still worked together with Lorne very closely on the project (Hybrid said he was there for all the meetings, helped with synth programming, etc)Of cause Balfe worked on it .That is why Bay now uses Balfeyou can absolutely hear the 13 hours temp track in Battlefield and We Have to GoNot to mention that Steve and Lorne structure their power anthems differently.<br>To me this score sounds like 100% Steve
I wouldn't say so, Lorne stacks his ostinatos and rhythms on top of each other (see Blackwood, Last Man on the Moon) and shotguns piano writing all over his scores in addition to using it for almost any kind of emotional scene (see Manny, Duck Shoot, Brothers Theme from Hurricane Heist)Well, if all we're using to distinguish Lorne is ostinatos and piano writing, then in that case, he's all over this film!The interesting thing is, that if Lorne did work on it, his work is indistinguishable from Steve's cause I hear none of his ostinatos or extensive piano writing.@Hybrid, a while ago I saw a rumor stating that Lorne Balfe ghostwrote this score and dismissed it as crap.<br>But looking at the credits I see some people from his team have been involved( his assistant Queenie Li as music coordinator, and Max Aruj and Steffen Thum did arrangements..)<br>Do you know why and to which extent he was involved or why his team worked on the score?This little gem of a score is one of my favourites of Lorne's smaller projects.<br>Got a great main theme and varying instrumentations of it throughout, plus he's using a real orchestra which is always good. (Check out The Heist, very upbeat jazzy piece)
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Hans ZimmerSteve MazzaroSteven KofskyBruce Fowler
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The World Of Hans Zimmer - A Symphonic Celebration (Shows)
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CD1
  1. The Dark Knight Orchestra Suite
  2. King Arthur Orchestra Suite
  3. Mission Impossible 2 Orchestra Suite: Part 1
  4. Mission Impossible 2 Orchestra Suite: Part 2
  5. Pearl Harbor Orchestra Suite
  6. Rush Orchestra Suite
  7. Part 1
  8. Part 2
  9. Part 3
  10. Part 4
CD2
  1. Madagascar: Best Friends - Orchestra Version
  2. Spirit Orchestra Suite
  3. Kung Fu Panda: Oogway Ascends - Orchestra Version
  4. The Holiday Orchestra Suite
  5. Hannibal: To Every Captive Soul - Orchestra Version
  6. The Lion King Orchestra Suite
  7. Part 1, The Wheat / The Battle
  8. Part 2, Elysium
  9. Part 3, Now We Are Free
  10. Inception: Time - Orchestra Version
  11. Part 1, I Don't Think Now Is The Best Time / At Wit's End
  12. Part 2, Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho
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Paul reply Replies: 11 || 2019-03-15 13:50:03
That mission impossible 2 suite part 1 is so amazing


Mephariel2019-03-15 15:51:06
Yes it is. I am very surprised that I like Gladiator the least. I think there is something a bit off about that program, especially how loud the background music is during Lisa Gerrard's performance. But man...Pirates, The Lion King, Inception, Spirit, The Holiday, MI2 are orgasmic good.

Really hope he does a World of Hans Zimmer 2 with music from The Last Samurai, Beyond Rangoon, The Prince of Egypt, etc.


...2019-03-15 17:36:31
This CD is so much better than HZ Live in Prague.


Mephariel2019-03-15 17:43:38
No kidding. Hans Zimmer Live was made for the fans.

This was made for music lovers.


Mike2019-03-15 20:29:47
The presentation as a whole here is way better than I expected, and IMO, puts Hans Zimmer Live to shame. I think this does more justice to the music.


Ds2019-03-16 17:19:21
TWOHZ doesn't put anything to shame. If it exists, it's basically because 'Hans Zimmer Live' came before, and it got massively successful, so they created this alternate program. Now we're maybe feeling this whole program is better, but isn't it perhaps because by now we're so used to the HZL program? I've known it since 2014, I've seen it 3 times live, a couple of times on blu-ray and Netflix, and listened to the album many, many times. So of course now TWOHZ has a "fresher" feeling. I think if TWOHZ came before, first of all it probably wouldn't have been that successful... and people would be complaining about the lack of Driving Miss Daisy, True Romance, Man Of Steel, The Thin Red Line, Interstellar...

There isn't room for everything in one concert, so it's great to have 2 different programs without too much overlap. That's it :)


...2019-03-16 17:33:19
The program has nothing to do with it... This is much closer to the music that Zimmer actually wrote for the movies. HZ live is some rock show that doesn't have much to do with the original scores and I just think this is way better! I am a big zimmer fan, but I didn't go to HZ live because I just couldn't stand the arrangements and performances of that tour.


mpolonest123 2019-03-16 19:45:30
I really don’t get the comparisons, they are both two completely different things. I love HZ Live simply because it’s a cool, rock spin on Zimmer’s music. This, on the other hand, is a more traditional approach that sounds amazing and closer to the music as heard in film. For me personally neither are better or worse, I actually think they both work extremely well.

My only complaint: still no live performance of “Too Many Notes, Not Enough Rests” ;)


Mephariel2019-03-16 19:47:48
To be fair, Hans Zimmer Live has its charms. Some of the soloist performances are truly spectacular, like Guo's Pirate sequence. Also, HZL presented Zimmer's music in ways we haven't seen or heard before. It is also a celebration of electronic music, something TWOHZ isn't. So DS is right that both programs compliment each other.


rockhound2019-03-17 07:53:58
in my opionion, alot of tracks in Hans Zimmer Live In Prague are just weak arrangements. some of them turn actually just into noise. Crimson Tide/160BPM; The Thin Red Line; Inception and Interstellar. also the soloists were often just a waste. they were playing, the camera was on them, but you couldnt hear them. but i have to say, Gladiator with Czarina Russell was amazing, much better than with Lisa Gerrard. in the end, i also prefer TWOHZ, because it represents his music much better. also the program is more varied.


Ds2019-03-17 17:44:44
I'm not sure, did you call the Thin Red Line live arrangement "noise"?? That's probably my favourite thing from this whole concert, such a massive improvement on the original version, it's incredibly immersive and it reaches levels of power and intensity words couldn't describe.

As Mephariel says, TWOHZ is a straightforward rendition of pieces we know, with little modification, while HZL is a reworking of the music as Hans himself thinks is best. Both have their charm and their use.

And after all that's why we like Hans in the first place: he doesn't do anything like anyone. He proved it with his music throughout his career, and he proved it again with his shows :-)


Mike2019-03-18 16:50:44
The stuff that didn't really do it in HZ Live for me were the "rockified" versions of No time For Caution and the Moody Bruce TDKR suite. Making those pieces sound like they did weakened their power, IMO. They were too guitar-and-drums heavy and I just preferred the originals. Otherwise, HZ Live was pretty good. There was some hyperbole in my comment about putting it to shame. But overall I definitely would rather have The World of Hans Zimmer approach.

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2019-03-15 20:45:17
The Gladiator stuff got misnamed on this release, lol... Part 1 is The Wheat + Am I Not Merciful, and Part 2 is a short version of The Battle.


Mephariel2019-03-15 21:54:15
Yeah totally.

I am not sure where they got "Elysium" from. Part 2 is The Battle + The Might of Rome.

George reply Replies: 1 || 2019-03-15 02:18:21
Is this still getting released tomorrow? Haven’t seen any news lately


Ds2019-03-15 10:13:42
Yes, it is available!

Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-13 20:22:41
Interesting news. Hans Zimmer is scoring a Cirque du Soleil show:

The acclaimed Hollywood composer Hans Zimmer is performing three original pieces in the show. Zimmer has won an Oscar for Best Original Score for “The Lion King,” and also created the music for the “Pirates of the Caribbean” series, “Interstellar,” “Gladiator,” “Inception,” “Dunkirk,” and “The Dark Knight Trilogy.”

André Kasten and Leah Moyer, the show’s co-writers and directors, have been using Zimmer’s compositions as inspiration in developing music for their own scenes. Thus, they were thrilled to have him in the pool.

“‘Now We Are Free’ from ‘Gladiator’ is one of my all-time favorite songs,” Kasten said during a break in Monday’s rehearsal. “This whole show is original music, and it’s a dream to have him be a part of it.”

Moyer added, “He creates worlds with his music so it’s such a perfect blend, with what we like to do visually with his music.”

From Las Vegas Review-Journal


Paul reply Replies: 5 || 2019-02-13 15:06:27
Hybrid,
Do you know if the missing pieces from the Hollywood in vienna show are included in the official CD release??


Kalman2019-02-13 16:09:02
I don't know what was missing in Vienna (unfortunately I didn't manage to get a ticket :( ), but according to amazon.de the tracklist is the same as that of the usual show (I suppose the last four nameless tracks of Disc 1 are from The da Vinci Code):

https://www.amazon.de/World-Hans-Zimmer-Symphonic-Celebratio n/dp/B07HSK39R3/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1550070218&sr =1-1&keywords=the+world+of+hans+zimmer


Paul2019-02-13 17:15:10
As far as i know, its missing pearl harbor, and king Arthur


...2019-02-13 17:15:26
Everything seems to be there (including best friends which wasn’t performed in Vienna). The only thing missing seems to be the Sherlock Holmes suite (which was performed in Vienna but not in any other WOHZ concert.

It’s great that they choose the Vienna performance for the Cd because the orchestra performing in Vienna is much better than the one that plays the regular WOHZ concerts!


...2019-02-13 17:38:04
@Paul The Vienna concert only missed Best Friends. King Arthur, Pearl Harbor and the full Gladiator suite were just missing from the Austrian TV broadcast.

The Vienna concert also had a Sherlock Holmes performance which seems to be missing from this CD.


Mephariel2019-02-13 20:17:56
I think the CD will contain music from The World of Hans Zimmer not Hollywood in Vienna, even though they are almost the same show. There are some clear differences though.

And Hollywood in Vienna contains Pearl Harbor and King Arthur, it is just that they didn't broadcast those programs due to time constraint.

DomCobb reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-03 08:21:32
So, if I remember well, this should be released this Friday, but I don’t see any news or announcement about that. Is it normal or should we expect a delay regardless the release date ?


Johnny2019-02-04 18:54:43
Release is on March 15!


Johnny2019-02-04 18:54:44
Release is on March 15!

LoBa reply Replies: 1 || 2019-01-03 14:10:04
Well, just as long as der Balfmeister has no say in this. Not that it's going to be bad, but that it will just sound average, this is the Balfe method. Nothing to challenge nothing to gain. Total vapid everyone-is-okay nonsense, that is our Balfe, no creativity.


Knight2019-01-03 15:14:08
Delet this

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 7 || 2018-10-15 09:59:21
For those who were asking, Sony will release a 2 CD set for this show...


Knight2018-10-15 10:50:02
Well color me excited! Hope they make a film out of one of the shows like they did with the Prague one.


Evenstar2018-10-15 12:36:22
Awesome!!


Mephariel2018-10-15 16:52:32
Great News. I thought we will have to wait until end of 2019 at the earliest.


Evenstar2018-10-17 20:12:41
Especially can't wait for the Mission Impossible 2 mix.


snsguy2018-12-10 18:41:08
Will there be a Blu-ray release for this as well. I had heard that the Hollywood in Vienna award show that is essentially the same set would get a Blu-ray release.


Quinn2019-01-02 22:38:46
I certainly hope they will make a movie out of this fantastic show. The artists participating in this show are absolute talents too. Pedro Eustache, Amir John Haddad, name them! I really don't want to miss this show. There's many with us who don't have the luck or money to go to the show so I hope they will bring this out on DVD. The Hollywood in Vienna show in 2018 was wonderful as well with the same bunch of artists!


Quinn2019-01-02 22:39:32
Great! A dvd as well?

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