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Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.
The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.
You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.
Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...
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Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL)Antonio Di IorioBob BadamiConrad Pope
ComposerAdditional MusicMusic SupervisorConductor
Mortal Engines
Label: Back Lot Music
Length: 70'16
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  1. London Suite In C Major (8:54)
  2. No-One You Know (2:51)
  3. The Chase (1:08)
  4. Welcome To London (2:39)
  5. Miss Valentine (4:19)
  6. This Is For My Mother (1:36)
  7. The Outlands (4:52)
  8. A Resurrected Man (4:44)
  9. Ms. Fang (2:05)
  10. In A Sea Of Clouds (1:28)
  11. The Weapon Of The Ancients (2:08)
  12. Shan Guo (3:21)
  13. I Am The Meteor (2:15)
  14. First Strike (2:09)
  15. Night Sundered (4:10)
  16. In The Shadow Of A Shrine (3:29)
  17. No Going Back (5:58)
  18. Windflower (2:28)
  19. The 13th Floor Elevator (4:40)
  20. Alive And Together (4:52)
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Michael Fields reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 09:23:42
MOVIE CREDITS:

Music Composed, Produced, Programmed, Mixed And Mastered By
TOM HOLKENBORG

Score Wrangler
BOB BADAMI

Music Editors
CATHERINE WILSON
STEPHEN GALLAGHER

Orchestra Conducted By
CONRAD POPE

Additional Music By
ANTONIO DI IORIO

Orchestrated By
EDWARD TRYBEK
HENRI WILKINSON
JONATHAN BEARD
TOM HOLKENBORG

Music Preparation By
JORDAN COX

Additional Synth Programming By
EMILY RICE
JONAS FRIEDMAN
MAX KARMAZYN

Technical Score Engineers
ALEX RUGER
JACOPO TRIFONE

Music Production Services By
MICHIEL GROENEVELD

Music Recorded At
MICHAEL FOWLER CENTER (Wellington, New Zealand);
STELLA MARIS (Wellington, New Zealand)

Music Performed By
NEW ZEALAND SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA

Orchestral Recording Engineers
GRAHAM KENNEDY
JOHN NEILL

Orchestral Mix Engineer
JOHN NEILL

Score Recordist
NIGEL SCOTT

Score Technical Crew
ANDREW DALZLEL
BRIAN MAHONEY

Music Mixed At
PARK ROAD POST PRODUCTION

Choir
VOICES NEW ZEALAND CHAMBER CHOIR

Choir Conducted By
KAREN GRYLLS

Solo Sopranos
MORAG ATKINSON
PEPE BECKER

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-24 02:50:17
So just like Divergent, the score is completely butchered in film. The main “London” tune is only used for about 30 seconds in the entire film (disregarding it being tracked into the credits suite) and most of the other music from album seems to be either suites, alternates, or heavily chopped up on screen. The editing in the film is pretty bad, so I’m wondering if that may have affected the score in some way.

Surprisingly there is one excellent unreleased cue, which transitions into “First Strike”, that takes the “Shan Guo” ostinato and overlays the operatic MEDUSA vocals which turn to screams at one point. Also some unreleased Hester/Shrike piano music...

Knight reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-29 04:58:42
Antonio Di Iorio's credits taken from his website by track number

1 2 3 5 6 7 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 19


Knight2018-12-29 04:59:53
Bit disappointing that the London suite isn't all Tom's work

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-28 17:12:45
Very strange this score hasn't had more hype on this site.

They came out in the same week but all the hype seems to go to Aquaman which is the B-version of Thor: Ragnarock.

I think this score is more interesting in orchestration and has a better thematic identity. Tracks like 'Resurrected Man' are really great.

Shame it went under the radar cause it is one of the better RCP outings this year

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-19 00:02:23
Tracklist for Alita

1. A Discovery
2. I Don’t Even Know My Own Name
3. What’s Your Dream?
4. Double Identity
5. The Warrior Within
6. A Dark Past
7. In Time You’ll Remember
8. Nova’s Orders
9. Jackers Mission
10. Unlocking the Past
11. Whose Body Is This?
12. Grewishka’s Revenge
13. Broken Doll
14. With Me
15. I’d Give You My Heart
16. You Just Lost a Puppet
17. What Did You Do?
18. In the Clouds
19. Raising the Sword
20. Motorball


Jean-Luc2018-12-19 01:32:38
Interesting Tracklist!!

Jerry reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-17 18:49:05
Anybody got an indea for chronological order?

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 3 || 2018-12-14 01:41:38
First Impressions:

This might be one of the most “traditional” scores that Tom has scored at this point in his career. The strings/brass still have the signature JXL sound to them, but the music feels more mature when compared to something like Mad Max or even his most recent outings.

I’m still picking up on the themes as of now (the most obvious being the main fanfare and Hester’s tune) but the idea for Shrike is definitely a clear standout. Especially when it gets an emotional spin later on. The use of woodwinds and the operatic female solo vocals also are a nice addition.

Overall this has to be the biggest surprise of the year for me. Having sorta given up on Junkie after being disappointed by his output in the past few years I never expected him to write a fantasy score on this level (while still keeping one foot in his comfort zone of course). Hopefully more producers actually demand quality music from him, as opposed to the shit we got from
Tomb Raider and Deadpool.


Anonymous2018-12-14 15:42:10
To me it sounds like the composer's usual fare, only this time it has a touch of Conrad Pope every now and then in the orchestrations. Won't be surprised if CP's involvement went beyond just conducting.


mpolonest123 2018-12-14 16:30:08
^ And I think a big part of that is the sound mixing. I understand each composer has their own unique voice, but in Holkenborg’s case he tends to mix everything so harshly, particularly the brass. It definitely muffles the music to a degree.

Similar issue I have with Giacchino, who I think writes amazing music which gets undercut by the really dry mixing.


MrZimmerFan2018-12-14 18:14:35
Conrad Pope is only conductor in this, not orchestrator.

Andreas reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-14 10:04:01
Am I correct that the music used in the long flashback sc&#232;ne with Hester and Shrike is only sort of present in the final track "Alive and Together" ?

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-13 19:11:32
I'm listening right now, one of the best works by Tom, by far.

Beautiful choir, great action tracks (even there is a great renditions of the themes, Windflower with that version of Shrike's theme is gorgeous) and multiples themes.


Anonymous2018-12-13 23:19:07
Great work.

I love Tom's aggressive and extreme way of mixing and bold use of percussion.

Glad to see him linked to Alita: Battle Angel too

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 7 || 2018-12-10 08:14:42
Why wouldn't Peter Jackson have Howard Shore score?


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 09:26:24
Peej only produced this film, didn't direct it, and also I sorta think he and Howard Shore don't have the warmest of relationships considering the King Kong firing and then the way the music was mistreated in the Hobbit films.


Anonymous2018-12-10 14:37:39
Skipped the Hobbit films. How so was the music mistreated in those?


MrZimmerFan2018-12-10 15:58:11
Jackson use more LOTR music than the original music created for the movie.

Altough, Watertower releases respect the material written by Shore (as he wanted)


Edmund Meinerts2018-12-10 16:44:14
Especially in the first one, there's a ton of LOTR themes needledropped even though Shore wrote original material for those exact scenes that you can hear on the album, and also there are themes used in scenes where they don't belong at all. Oh and the main theme of the first one and a couple of the secondary ones completely disappear from the second and third movies


superultramegaa2018-12-11 00:05:52
Don't forget the pointless changes like the opening title music for AUE being replaced with an E Major version of The Shire and Gandalf's Farewells for some reason. Or temp tracking earlier pieces of the film in for later scenes.


lumpy2018-12-11 11:15:02
get this a cd-release too


Oscarilbo2018-12-12 20:26:25
The "problem" with The Hobbit scores came just on the first movie and just because it changed from being 2 movies to be a whole trilogy. So... the "punch" points had to be changed on AUJ, meaning that very subtle moments had to be now enhanced every way possible specially by the score so you have much more dramatic emphasis than you had it before, because now you're gonna end the movie MUCH MORE sooner that originally planned.

Nothing to do with Jackson not liking what Shore did. Shore even had the same themes that were ultimately used in the final film, they just were more subtle... even the wrongly music known as "wraights theme" when Throin charges against Azog (which is actually related to all agents of Sauron) was used there by Shore before the changes, just again, the connection was more subtle when that was not going to be the climax of the film.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-11 21:18:11
Alita ia going to be release by Milan Records


Jean-Luc2018-12-11 22:41:52
That's a great news!

Nick reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-10 21:55:23
Tom just released "London Suite in C Major" on his YouTube channel, and I am really loving it. He's usually hit-or-miss for me, but this cue in particular really intrigues me. Sounds like he merged the orchestral sections of Fury Road with the flighty ballads of Hollywood Golden Age music.


Ds2018-12-11 11:35:53
It's great but sadly it's only used in the end credits :-(
I suspect it might have been an alternate version of the opening scene.

Anyway the rest of the score is absolutely stunning, a good balance between heavy action and themes (and incredible choir). A new high in JXL's career, let's hope the OST release does it justice.

lumpy reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-10 20:49:00
CD Release?

isildur reply Replies: 4 || 2018-12-06 21:57:31
This sounds amazing.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6U4zYppks


Mike2018-12-06 22:53:46
Consider me pleasantly surprised....


Mike2018-12-06 23:20:05
On repeat listens, it sounds like if someone tossed Fury Road into a blender with Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries and Michael Giacchino's Medal of Honor scores. A surprisingly good combination, if you ask me.


mpolonest123 2018-12-07 01:30:36
I’m pleasantly surprised. The whole thing has a very “classic Hollywood” fantasy type feel to it, with Holkenborg’s usual percussion and strings overlaid. The mixing is still a bit too harsh and overproduced, but I’m loving what I hear so far. Here’s hoping the rest stays consistently strong...


Andreas2018-12-07 09:54:16
Saw the film few days ago. Score is one of the best things in the film. Indeed a mix of BvS en Mad Max, only more orchestral. Can't wait to listen to it again.

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