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Most of them are done actually and should have been released a while ago !Hybrid why is HZ scoring so many films lately, has he placed a bet with himself or something? lol<br><br>Looking forward to it. Boss Baby was a really fun score.I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it. <br>I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website. <br><br>It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.<br><br>Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly. <br>Maybe Pope is involved.Great news! The first one is fun, not Zimmer’s best animated score imo but it’s still pretty enjoyable. I almost wish they got Conrad Pope involved again, “Love” is one of the most beautiful cues of the past few years.
The first one was quite pretty good.We knew Steve would return for quite some time, but I was surprised Hans would actually return too. But he's very involved with that one.Who is Hans Zimmerman?i want it so much <3I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.<br><br>A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.
You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).<br><br>As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.<br><br>Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.<br><br>And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).<br><br>I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.<br><br>And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album. <br><br>"Hi James,<br><br>I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:<br><br>We’ve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.<br><br>Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.<br><br>We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."<br>Great. Thx.<br><br>Score has much similarities with Sherlock, so there is many of Lorne's cues...Known credits are Runaway Train for Mazzaro (was on his website), for Andrew K : The Rangers, Cannibal, Dead Rangers & Finish Him (on his Soundcloud). Geoff is the only guy with Ann Marie Simpson that got the privilege of cuesheet credit.
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<br>Battle of Aughrim arrangement (so everything lifted from "Silver") is Hans & Ann Marie.
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<br>Geoff did a good part of the score, every other classical pieces arrangements are his (so, everywhere the William Tell Overture appears). Train Chase, the End Credits, This Is A Robbery.
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<br>The stuff that sounds more or less like Sherlock have definitely Lorne. And I suspect a bit more epic drama have RGW.
Hello there!<br>Hybrid, do we have some composer's credits on this score?<br>Or this is situation like on Transformers score?<br><br>Somewhere I read that Geoff Zanelli helped Hans on Train Chase (pts 1&2), Mazzaro did Runaway Train and Kawczynski did like 2 or 3 tracks (the rangers, finish him). Is that correct?<br><br>btw good score, not genius, but pretty good action score.<br><br>Made in Italy<br><br>Beautiful new score by Alex Belcher, check it out!Oh, yes.<br><br>Maybe this month, right?The album is ready. Just waiting for legal to settle it... It'll happen.And about The Rhythm Section?, Mazzaro said the score is mastered...
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  1. Raiders Return To Busy, Busy Berk (5:27)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey
  2. Dinner Talk - Grimmel's Introduction (3:53)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  3. Legend Has It - Cliffside Playtime (4:21)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  4. Toothless: Smitten (3:16)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  5. Worst Pep Talk Ever (2:40)
    John Powell
  6. Night Fury Killer (3:36)
    John Powell, Batu Sener, Paul Mounsey
  7. Exodus! (4:38)
    John Powell, Anthony Willis
  8. Third Date (6:49)
    John Powell
  9. New "New Tail" (1:28)
    John Powell, Anthony Willis
  10. Furies In Love (3:03)
    John Powell
  11. Killer Dragons (5:05)
    John Powell, Batu Sener
  12. With Love Comes A Great Waterfall (2:08)
    John Powell
  13. The Hidden World (5:16)
    John Powell, Paul Mounsey, Jónsi
  14. Armada Battle (8:40)
    John Powell, Batu Sener, Anthony Willis
  15. As Long As He's Safe (6:29)
    John Powell
  16. Once There Were Dragons (5:45)
    John Powell
  17. Together From Afar - Jonsi (3:17)
  18. The Hidden World Suite (Digital Bonus Track) (6:40)
    John Powell
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John G. reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-28 17:36:37
Powell has his personal reasons, but I sincerely hope he comes around to do another superhero score again, especially for MARVEL since his style isn’t fit for the likes of DC as of now.


Edmund Meinerts2020-01-28 23:55:33
The films Powell is currently choosing allow him to write much more interesting music than your average Marvel movie... ;)

Excited for Call of the Wild in a few weeks.


Iamtommie442020-01-29 07:15:44
As much as I think that the choice of movie Powell makes, which up till now have created amazing scores, I do wish we'd get more than 1 score of his every year. Even if the quality is like Solo or The Hidden World


Cynical Makooti2020-07-29 10:32:30
I disagree about the DC bit. He would've been a phenomenal pick for Shazam.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 0 || 2020-01-23 16:21:06
Call of the Wild coming by Hollywood Records, that means, digital.

Mr Tweedy reply Replies: 1 || 2019-12-08 11:57:31
Anthony Willis (additional composer on HTTYD 2 & 3) just wrote a nice score for HTTYD Homecoming, a "christmas special" short. The score is based on Powell's themes and style, which is a nice addition to the trilogy.

You can listen to excerpts here :
https://www.animationmagazine.net/tv/exclusive-music-clips-h ow-to-train-your-dragon-homecoming-holiday-special/


Edmund Meinerts2019-12-08 20:33:00
Yeah, it's a nice little mini HTTYD score. It's a bit frustrating that he's seemingly never allowed to develop an idea for very long before moving on to the next thing and the next (probably because of the pacing of the short), but I like the way he plays around with Powell's themes. It makes me think that if they ever decide to make a fourth HTTYD movie and Powell decides he's said all he has to say in the series, Willis would be a good choice to continue it (Zanelli/Pirates style).

superultramegaa reply Replies: 2 || 2019-11-21 19:10:29
The FYC came out for this. Unfortunately, it's missing two entire tracks from the film. An extended "Busy, Busy Berk", and the film version of "Furies Captured" (which at least had a YouTube upload of the alternate version).

Guess we'll have to hope for a complete/recording sessions leak for everything else.


Edmund Meinerts2019-11-22 21:02:51
Really gutted that the FYC is out but it's missing the one moment from the score I really wanted, the statement of the Alpha theme from HTTYD2. Wonder why Powell and his crew seem to be going out of their way to prevent that from being heard...something about pre-existing material, maybe? But why just that theme and not the dozens of others? Weird.


Daric Shire2019-11-23 06:48:51
You're forgetting the Celtic folk music that plays during the feast scene after they had arrived at "New Berk". Really eager to be able to actually hear that.

And yeah, shame they didn't put "Furies Captured" on it. Really like that one.

Satisfied with "Near Miss Valka" and "Stronger Together" finally being released though.

Iamtommie44 reply Replies: 2 || 2019-06-26 09:12:10
John Powell mentioned on his Instagram that a surprise album will be released this Friday. On the picture that comes with it, it looks like it is something from Happy Feet!


MrZimmerFan2019-06-28 10:30:30
It's Happy Feet.

https:/ /www.instagram.com/p /BzPfxB0htKx/


Edmund Meinerts2019-06-28 19:04:31
lame

superultramegaa reply Replies: 3 || 2019-06-13 23:27:06
Additionally, for anyone interested, I've managed to come up with a final list of themes from the series that I believe to be mostly accurate.

HTTYD 1: Hiccup & Toothless, The Friendship ostinato, Viking Theme, Viking "B" Theme, Dragons, Berk, The Dragon Tamer (Hiccup's unique qualities), Vikings & Dragons, Astrid

HTTYD 2: Loss, Exploration/Hiccup's Maturance, Drago, Hiccup & Valka, The Alpha, Stoick & Valka, The Chief

HTTYD 3: The Furies ostinato, Love, The Dragon Liberators, Moving On, The Hidden World, Toothless & The Light Fury, Grimmel, Dragon Trappers

A list more impressive than Star Wars, and with almost every new theme returning for the next film, while keeping most of the base themes. A masterful achievement by John Powell and his crew, as others have said!


Edmund Meinerts2019-06-14 00:36:31
There's so, so many great themes in the HTTYD scores. And he almost never lets a moment go by where he isn't stating or restating or developing one or more of them (although honestly that's true of a ton of Powell's scores and not an exclusive feature of HTTYD). You can never get bored listening to these, there's always something interesting around the next corner.


Ian Brown McCarthy2019-06-14 01:54:11
Yeah, Jesus. This is a prime example of why I'm tempted to think John Powell is more talented than even Williams (yes, I went there).


Mephariel2019-06-14 06:40:37
Love John Powell. But he is not even close to Williams. Williams made his mark on every genre of film scoring. He freaking turn a holocaust movie score into a masterpiece for the ages.

Today, that score would have been some generic sound design.

Powell is an incredibly gifted orchestral composer. But he doesn't have the dimensions of someone like Williams.


Morgan Joylighter reply Replies: 1 || 2019-06-12 12:37:05
The longer 2019 goes on, the more I think Hidden World might end up being my favorite score of the year. It just keeps growing on me. And unless Lion King or Star Wars 9 are the best possible versions of themselves, I don't see anything else on the schedule that is likely to eclipse it.

HTTYD is, amazingly, almost up there with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings in terms of the greatest thematic development in a multi-film series.


superultramegaa2019-06-12 20:02:12
Got to agree. The score for this series is polished, precise, emotional, technically proficient, and thematically rich. Not much else this year has been anywhere close to the level of quality in The Hidden World.

Sadly though, I don't see either Lion King or Star Wars 9 beating this score. From the look of the trailer, Lion King's music is probably just going to be on repeat with a few additional original tracks here and there, and the new Star Wars trilogy is plagued with temp tracks, and uninteresting progression.

superultramegaa reply Replies: 0 || 2019-03-08 02:01:19
So I haven't watched this film so I can't speak to what the themes mean here, but I need a little bit of help with the themes of the first 2.

This is the list of themes as I know them:
Hiccup's Theme (Flying) - HTTYD 1
Berk Theme - HTTYD 1
Viking Theme - HTTYD 1
Evil Dragon Theme - HTTYD 1
Friendship Ostinato - HTTYD 1
Astrid - HTTYD 1
Secondary Viking Theme/Viking Teens - HTTYD 1
Toothless/Good Alpha - HTTYD 2
Drago - HTTYD 2
Evil Alpha - HTTYD 2
Exploration - HTTYD 2
The Chief - HTTYD 2
Valka & Stoick Love / Stoick's Theme - HTTYD 2

However, on this website people have discussed that there might be even more than that, like "Dragon Vigilante" or "Valka", but I have no idea what these themes are if they exist. For most scenes involving Valka, it's either Toothless' theme or Stoick's love theme that plays.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 22:06:32
Just saw HTTYD: The Hidden World!! For me, a perfect way to complete a trilogy!! Absolutely loved it. All 3 movies are great and get better each time.

Them the score: I don't know how Powell does it. With these 3 scores he's definitely (re)defined writing thematic music again. It's orchestral. He uses themes from the first 2 movies and adds a few new themes that are just as memorable. I think there is about 20 minutes if score missing. So hoping to a good FYC. But just like with the other 2 scores. A great album representation!!

Loved every bit of the this trilogy and very sad it's over.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-05 13:17:40
Composer credits !


Knight2019-02-05 13:39:54
Thanks!


Knight2019-02-05 13:40:36
A lot less solo Powell cues than I expected

Mike reply Replies: 2 || 2019-02-02 20:56:03
Still need to listen through this one....Is it more like the first score or the second? The first was more tuneful and energetic and crowd-pleasing, while the second really upped the complexity/theme development side of things.


Aaron2019-02-03 05:40:49
The way you described them, it's more like the second score. That said, it's surprisingly distinct.


NM2019-02-03 22:46:19
It's very different to both of the other ones and definitely the best of the three. I found this one managed to improve the orchestration over the (already impressive) second one, while also having accessible, memorable themes and motifs that didn't take as long to "click" as the usual Powell stuff.

Jean-Luc reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-02 18:06:18
Is that true about John Powell and additional score by Kay-S is Brian Tyler Team's new composer will score Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Movie. If it's true, then it's a great news. I bet John Powell's music might sound like Bourne music or new styles of spy or action music like that.

Toothless reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-01 09:57:11
I m very happy for sound

Ro reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-01 07:43:47
Solid work. Its ought to satisfy anyone who's been yearning for a solid symphonic score.

For the most part it seems to me that with this one Powell aimed more for technical mastery and complexity than going for that tangible sense of innocence, intrigue and fun that made the very first film and its score special. I am not saying this third score lacks those elements, but they are certainly not in full display like they were in the very first score.

In a broader sense, it appears that just about everyone is taking everything way too seriously these days. As much as I miss solid symphonic scores myself, I miss the "fun" side of film scores more.

Iamtommie reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-01 00:31:28
I recommend to everybody How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell!!!
It's an amazing orchestral score with new AND continuing themes from previous 2 movies. The choral work is amazing!
My favorite cues are:
- Legend Has It / Cliffside Platytime (one of the most beautiful tracks Powell has ever written!)
- Exodus!
- Third Date (So much fun!!!!!)
- Furies In Love (Equal to Flying With Mother & See You Tomorrow
- The Hidden World (Beautiful choral Work)
- Armada Battle (Captures all themes from all 3 movies!!!)
- As Long As He's Safe
- Once There Were Dragons (Beautiful ending!!!)
- The Hidden World Suite


Seriously, check it out it's really good!!!!

QX reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-31 23:27:34
Hmmm... the new theme that appears in "Legend Has It", "Exodus" and "As Long as He's Safe" is heartbreaking and and among the highlights of the franchise. The love theme is wonderful too. And some of the orchestration is top class: a mastery of the orchestra which rivals the best composers.

But I don't know, did anyone else find this a bit disjointed in places? The "Armada Battle" is just exhausting and even though I recognised all the themes and motifs it wasn't fun to listen to - clipping from one thing to the next every few seconds with no transition. I thought it'd be the highlight of the score but it's probably the worst track on the album. It probably works great in the film, I imagine.

FORZA reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-23 20:04:28
John Powell himself announced that he will be scoring the upcoming 2019 film, Call of the Wild, directed by Chris Sanders!

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 6 || 2019-01-12 00:01:42
I feel like “The Hidden World” cue is going to steal the show here. Combining Jonsi’s vocals with the choir and orchestra was a genius move, it sounds almost hypnotic. And of course “Furies in Love”...


BerkianWarrior2019-01-15 05:11:02
For sure!! Omg I honestly can't wait for this one, we where gonna get 2 songs for httyd 2 featuring Jonsi, but they stuck with "Flying with Mother" instead. I really would have liked to see Jonsi put lyrics to "romantic flight" for a hiccup and astrid wedding scene. Make it peaceful and sad :'(
Love these movies so much. I feel like watching them and listening to their scores brings back the 11 year old in me, obsessed with orchestra and dragons. A total nerd. I miss those days where everything was filled with magic, and John Powell's scores were at the center of it all <3


mpolonest123 2019-01-19 23:10:42
So having seen the film I can say that this is tonally the most mature score of the series. The old themes all get their moment to shine, but surprisingly are used far less than the previous 2. There also seem to be some temped moments, with one scene using portions of “Battle of the Bewilderbeast” and so on. It will be interesting to see what is missing from the album.

In terms of new stuff, both “The Hidden World” cue and the “Fury Love Theme” are obviously the standouts. Especially in the way they develop throughout. And without spoiling anything, there are some beautiful choral moments in the last 15 minutes. As for the villain material, there wasn’t really anything distinctive that I picked up, which might change with a few listens.


ThePhantasm2019-01-20 09:14:21
I don't know if it's just me but the music doesn't sound as amazing to me like it did for HTTYD 1 & 2, granted i've only listened to the previews but i did the same for 1 & 2 and it got me hyped. I hope I'm wrong


Ds2019-01-20 15:32:16
I have to say I'm a little bit disappointed, movie wise and score wise. Although it's a very good score, it seems like all the highlights are when old themes come back. I'll definitely have to check it on album to see if this impression holds up, maybe it's only because I'm overly familiar with those themes, and new ones still have to grow on me (like with litterally every Powell release).

As for the movie, it felt like the charm and beautiful story of #1 have partly been replaced by poor jokes and loads of explosive action. There are moving moments here and there, but overall it left me quite cold.


mpolonest123 2019-01-20 19:20:27
I was never extremely gung ho about any of the films, but I do agree that there feels like a bit of charm was missing from this one. Especially in the tidy way everything wrapped up. I also found the villain to be extremely forgettable, basically a lesser version of Drago. But hey, at least the visuals were great.

And I do partially agree on the score, although I think it is hard to give a fair opinion until the music has actually been released. But while HTTYD1 has all of the best highlights and HTTYD2 (my personal favorite) has the best narrative development, I feel like this one works as a solid score on it’s own. The weakest of the three but still a pretty good score, if that makes sense.


Ds2019-01-20 21:51:00
That makes perfect sense and I fully agree with you :p

FORZA reply Replies: 5 || 2019-01-04 16:45:22
Available on February 1st!


Anonymous2019-01-05 02:23:11
Yeah maybe in not-america. The film opens in the states in march


Anonymous2019-01-05 07:17:52
Those last three titles are major plot spoilers to my eyes.


rockhound2019-01-10 18:33:25
the soundclips on itunes sound amazing.


iamtommie2019-01-10 21:16:22
Where did you listen to the soundclips on Itunes. I can't find it anywhere?


Kalman2019-01-11 16:28:38
https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/how-to-train-your-dragon-h idden-world-original-motion/1448549183

Mike reply Replies: 0 || 2019-01-07 16:31:50
New "New Tail"....Hmmm....That should be fun!

JBSO99 reply Replies: 0 || 2018-12-12 07:54:41
This is my most anticipated score of 2019. The two previous ones were great and I hope this one is even better.

Cannot wait!

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 1 || 2018-12-11 16:51:21
Coming soon !


FORZA2018-12-11 18:32:50
Can't freaking wait for this. The series ends with a bang!

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