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what the hell is Quaker steak and lube????I disagree on Catwoman. I love Zimmer's theme and I thought it is one of his most underrated themes.Loved the new tracks!<br><br>Hans & Chris really did something special.<br><br>I enjoyed the Tenet score, but honestly Ludwig's work doesn't compare to Zimmer's. I just hope they work together again instead of Chris choosing Ludwig as his main collaborator from now on.Agreed.<br><br>I don’t know, TDKR feels a little oppressive to me in comparison with BB and TDK , probably as a result of Nolan’s musical tastes veering away from symphonic to more abstract. Reading the new book on Nolan gives me the impression that he has a very similar approach to his music as he does his filmmaking. With that said though, TDKR is still a solid conclusion to the franchise. Bane’s theme is excellent and the culmination of the various “Bat-Themes” do feel well earned. Catwoman’s theme is solid, but for some reason is dropped from most of the movie in favor of the repeating two-note phrase.<br><br>@Moggyman<br>Honestly I feel as if JNH’s work on the first two Hunger Games sequels showed a strong improvement in writing and theme building. The last score was a bit too much of a pastiche, but orchestrally a stronger fit than the first one. And “Crimes of Grindelwald” is easily one of the best sequel scores in the past few years (alongside Star Wars and HTTYD). Unfortunately we still don’t have a good album situation for that though. -_-Counterpoint: I liked Crimes of Grindelwald more than the first Fantastic Beasts. And forget Hanging Tree - "Air Raid Drill" from the first and "Sewer Attack" from the second Mockingjay are the best cues from that series. Plus, JNH honestly hasn't worked on that many sequels so we don't really have enough to go on here. <br><br>I think having JNH on board for Catwoman would have done wonders for this score. Hans' theme is okay, but feels like a bit of an afterthought compared to Bane.
TDK & TDKR have amazing theme suites.<br><br>But as for the scores in film, they don't even get close to Batman Begins !I like Tom but idk he's gone downhill in my book. Alita was boring, i was over the moon excited for Terminator cause that was a perfect mix and it was disappointed big time. I'd love to hear Steve Jablonsky tackle that and get back to being as great as he used to, he has been phoning it in big time latelyOk, before I eat my words, JNH did create the Hanging Tree in Mockingjay p1 which was good, but nothing else other than that in the sequels.For being the so called "weakest", it's very good. And if you think that Bane's theme is repetitive, I would say the same about the Joker's theme in TDK (to me they are both good though). <br><br>Now in all fairness, JNH could have probably added good material to the score since he's a genius, but I personally think he doesn't do well on sequels. Sure, in TDK he gave harvey dent a theme that resonated with his character (but was similar to material already used in BB). Yet, if you look at his work in the hunger games, its seems to me that he couldn't bring something both new and compelling to the sequels as he did in the first movie. I will agree with you that Batman Begins has the best music of the series though.After re-listening to this one, it's clearly the weakest of the trilogy. Of course it's not bad, the new themes are pretty good (though I think Bane's theme is a bit too repetitive and dry at times), there's still emotional moments, but JNH's absence really left a hole in this score.<br><br>I get to an extent that's the point, that all of Bruce's potential for a happy life is gone, but even the emotional tracks to me have nowhere near the emotional resonance that JNH's themes brought to the films. <br><br>"Come With Me" is the best example, where the slow emotional Selina Kyle chords just don't leave much of an impact. Definitely could have used JNH's "Courthouse Pt. 1" or the main theme from "Bruce Left For Dead" to emphasize Bruce's giving up of a quiet life. <br><br>Of course I still appreciate the way the 2 note motif is developed into a theme of its own, as well as the score as a whole, but then you get tracks like "Many Forms of Immortality" which just emphasize how much more effective the thematic work in Batman Begins was.
It could also be Tom, who worked on Run All Night, and is already an established DC composer<br>Either way I'll be happyI lowkey think James is gonna score the Black Adam movie. it's the same director from Jungle Cruise so I'm sure he'll be brought along for itsameNo no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.Wait!<br>So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?<br>I thought it had been completed?
Why was there the change of composers?...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.Jackman is not replacing Balfe! <br>Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isn’t going to get replaced last minute!!!!!Thank you for your replies. On IMDB she is listed.Alright, after re-listening to the score, I've made a few educated guesses of what the additional composers did, based on what we know about the score and their previous work. Note that none of this is confirmed by Hybrid, just my opinion.<br><br>Lorne Balfe: Seems to practically be a co-composer here. I hear a lot of him in this score. It seems he did Invasion (as he's known for contributing trailer music to films he works on) seemingly the suites "Brooding", "Deciphering the Signal", "Battle", and the one we know he cowrote, "Journey Suite". Based on this here's my guess as to what he contributed. <br><br>Soccent Attack - Sounds like his style, probably him arranging AllSpark and Decepticon material. <br><br>Keller's Briefing - Arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal"<br><br>Deciphering the Signal - Obviously another arrangement of "Deciphering the Signal" with Batman Begins-like action at the end.<br><br>Sam's Pink Bike Ride (Part 2) - Sounds like an arrangement of "Brooding" material. <br><br>(Possibly?) Are You LadiesMan217? - Some arrangement of "Brooding" and "Journey Suite" material, although hard to say whether the theme at 1:10 is Steve's or Lorne's. Could be Steve arranging Lorne material, as it sounds more Jablonsky-esque to me. <br><br>Autobots to the Rescue - Could be Steve imitating Batman Begins style, but sounds far too Lorne for me to not consider it a co-written track. <br><br>Sector 7 Chase - Part 1 sounds more Jablonsky than Lorne, but there's no question to me that part 2 has a lot of Balfe in there. <br><br>Where Is My Car? - Batman Begins-like again, probably Lorne solo, or Lorne and Steve<br><br>Decepticons Mobilize (Part 2) - Arrangement of "Brooding"<br><br>Freeway Fight - Battle version of Decepticon theme from "Brooding"<br><br>Stumble Bumble (Part 1) & (Part 2 Alternate) - Arrangement of "Journey Suite", second part not used in the film sounds like Steve & Lorne Combo to me. Film version of part 2 sounds pure Steve to me. <br><br>You're A Soldier Now (Parts 1 & 3) - Lorne being heavily involved in the final battle is known, and Parts 1 and 3 have arrangements of Lorne material. I'm also fairly certain that Lorne wrote the Optimus vs Megatron theme from Part 3 and "Optimus vs Megatron".<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - Finale of theme introduced in "You're A Soldier Now (Part 3)" as well as the "Journey / AllSpark" theme which could be Lorne's or Steve's. <br><br>Trevor Morris: I can infer from his work on Pirates 2, The Island, and the one track we know he worked on. <br><br>Soldiers Arrive - Not sure why, but I've always assumed this military theme was Morris'.<br><br>Arctic 1897 - Dark theme that reminds me a lot of his work from Pirates 2. <br><br>Scorponok - Known fact that he co-wrote this. <br><br>Hoover Dam - Arrangement of military theme<br><br>Transforming -  Same theme from Arctic 1897<br><br>Sam on the Roof (Part 2) - Arrangement of theme from Scorponok, though could be Steve or Lorne arranging it.<br><br>Optimus vs Megatron - A slight hint to the Military theme when they begin attacking Blackout, and Scorponok theme reprisal, once again could be Steve or Lorne arranging these themes. <br><br>Creeper Suite / A Call to Arms (Unused) - Original music for Optimus' Epilogue, contains arrangement of military theme. <br><br>Jay Flood: Can be inferred from his work on Transformers: The Game, his overall more orchestral writing, and his contributions to Nightmare on Elm Street, Sims 3, and Desperate Housewives. <br><br>Camaro on the Run - Definitely has a TF: The Game sound to it overall. As well as a bit of Thomas Newman-esque music. <br><br>Witwicky (Parts 1-3) - Definitely some of his style here along with Steve's overall Desperate Housewives-esque music. <br><br>Decepticons 2 Suite / Frenzy - The suspenseful strings make me think of Flood's Nightmare on Elm Street work, and the brass writing seems more characteristic of him than Jablonsky to me, though it was still probably a co-written suite. <br><br>Tense Action Suite - Once again reminds me of Flood's Nightmare suspenseful string writing, probably at least co-composed with Jablonsky. <br><br>Clay Duncan - I can guess somewhat based on his contributions to "The Island" but otherwise I don't know much about him so I'm not sure about any of the inferences I'm about the make. <br><br>Angry Camaro - This sort of drone music sounds like it could be him as his contributions were very electronic in The Island.<br><br>Bumblebee vs Barricade - Strange electronics and sounds plus more minimalist writing make me think Duncan. <br><br>Tow Truck Charge - Definitely has The Island's sound. Could be Trevor Morris too. <br><br>TJ Lindgreen: I know so little about his style except he works with Elfman and did additional music for TF: The Game so not much I can say for what he did. <br><br>Belly Shot(?) - The ethereal choir style sounds somewhat like TF: The Game's score and Elfman's choir. <br><br>Not to Hear That(?) - Maybe he composed this motif for Mikaela that also appeared in "Belly Shot". <br><br>Surreal Mikaela(?) - Once again I'm hoping the specific choir sound is part of his style. <br><br>Anything I didn't mention is a track I'm assuming is all Jablonsky. Please note that I'm not trying to take away from Steve's work on this score, and that for most of these track I'm assuming Steve had some involvement in as well, I'm just speculating for fun because I've always wanted to know who did what on this score.
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Visceral Ambience
Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltJohn PowellJeff Rona
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAmbient Music Design
The Thin Red Line (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 263'35
HZimmer.com rating:        Not yet rated
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (1875 votes)
CD1 - THE FILM SCORE
  1. Nature Montage (5:38)
  2. Witt With Melanesians (2:54)
  3. Witt In Brig - Tall And Quintard (8:27)
  4. Staros Below Deck (1:58)
  5. March Inland (8:21)
  6. Staros Prays (2:23)
  7. The Grass - Tall Calls Staros (3:27)
  8. Keck's Death (4:47)
  9. Walsh Helps Tella (2:20)
  10. Staros Refuses Order (8:11)
  11. Bell's Patrol (3:58)
  12. Bell Goes Alone (3:31)
  13. Welsh & Witt Talk (3:49)
  14. Gaff's Party Leaves (3:17)
  15. Gaff's Party Returns (2:04)
  16. Attack On The Bivouac (Long Version) (11:03)
CD2 - THE FILM SCORE (CONTINUED)
  1. Staros Is Relieved (2:08)
  2. Tall Does Nails (1:22)
  3. Airfield - Bell Flashback (5:57)
  4. Marty's Letter (3:42)
  5. Village Flashback (2:04)
  6. Witt Travels (5:48)
  7. Japanese Appear - Witt Chased (5:27)
  8. Witt Killed (2:15)
  9. Witt's Funeral (5:17)
  10. Cemetery (4:48)
  11. End Credits (5:23)
  12. Concerto For Beam (Extended Version) - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (6:09)
    Additional Music:
  13. Keck's Death (Alternate) (4:32)
  14. Gaff's Party Returns (Alternate) (2:05)
  15. Attack On The Bivouac (Short Version) (8:05)
  16. Staros Is Relieved (Alternate) (3:06)
  17. Tall Does Nails (Alternate) (1:30)
  18. Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)
CD3 - THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM
  1. The Corall Atoll (8:00)
  2. The Lagoon (8:36)
  3. Journey To The Line (9:21)
  4. Light (7:19)
  5. Beam - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (3:44)
  6. Air (2:21)
  7. Stone In My Heart (4:28)
  8. The Village (5:52)
  9. Silence (5:06)
  10. God U Tekem Laef Blong Mi - Melanesian Choirs (1:58)
  11. Sit Back And Relax - Francesco Lupica (2:06)
CD4 - MELANESIAN CHOIRS: THE BLESSED ISLANDS - CHANTS FROM THE THIN RED LINE
  1. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:21)
  2. Soon My Lord (1:16)
  3. God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi (2:17)
  4. Early Morning At Tabalia (0:29)
  5. Procession Chant 1 (1:28)
  6. Procession Chant 2 (Kuston Tune) (0:55)
  7. Holly (1:40)
  8. Procession Chant 3 (1:03)
  9. We Love To Sing (3:39)
  10. Mi Go Longway (2:51)
  11. Jisas‚ Masta Mi Save (2:57)
  12. Procession Chant 4 (0:36)
  13. Together Be (2:26)
  14. Sunday Service Hymn (1:43)
  15. Halleluia!‚ Sing To Jesus (1:30)
  16. Jesus‚ You Are Here (2:15)
  17. Bybye (2:33)
  18. We Are One Big Happy Family (2:29)
  19. Traditional Lullaby (2:16)
  20. Cho Cho Vancho (1:24)
  21. Remember (0:54)
  22. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:53)
  23. Pray For Us (2:43)
  24. God All Mighty (2:09)
  25. Procession Chorus (3:16)
  26. Kyrie (3:02)
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JimmyCakes reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-25 01:34:48
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?


Scorefan2020-01-25 23:48:04
'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessions


Makooti2020-01-27 13:19:40
Honestly man, I never understood this site's ratings either.


Hybrid Soldier2020-01-27 18:33:44
I've demanded for it to be removed a long time ago... Maybe in 10 years, who knows...

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-15 15:58:34
Has anyone noticed a high-pitched whining in the background of some tracks? It's particularly bad in the mid-section of "Witt in Brig/Tall and Quintard", from about 4 minutes onwards. It's such a high frequency that I bet a lot of people wouldn't hear it (including the QA team at LLL, I guess), but I can and it's really debilitating.


Anonymous2019-08-16 01:06:24
so only you can hear it eh? Zaralyth? that you? lol


Anonymous2019-08-16 20:42:11
Zaras a girl and I agree with Edmund there is some sine signals and noise in the upper register that is noticeable in some cues. But that's the nature of the media it was recorded on.

You could use a spectral repair tool and non-destructive noise removal tool to fix them, such as those found in iZotope RX

Oscarilbo reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-07 22:11:45
Hybrid or anyone... the song God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi was or was not composed by Zimmer? I’ve always assumed it was the only melanesian song he actually composed, but reading the new lala land released cd’s booklet the author talks about it as if the theme Zimmer used within the context of the movie was only based on that chant and not actually composed by him.

Could anyone clarify this for me? thank you in advance.


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-08 20:16:13
Hmmmm to me there was never a doubt, the melody is from the melanisians, it's a traditional chant (and therefore, melody that goes with it).

The orchestration of it for TTRL was Klaus.


Oscarilbo2019-07-09 19:38:45
Thank you Hybrid. Also I've been years looking for the supposedly "hymn" or traditional folk song Staro's theme is based on so I can listen to it in it's original form, but have never succeeded. Do you happen to know it by any chance?

Thanks so much

StRuPiE reply Replies: 9 || 2019-02-10 00:19:02
Allow me to say a few things about this release. After a first listen, I can confirm that the film version of the taiko's are (still) not used in this set. As I predicted earlier, taiko's in both tracks (March Inland/Attack On The Bivouac) are missing or seriously toned down. So a film mix of both cues, for those in doubt, still not released.

Also, for those wondering what the long version of 'Attack On The Bivouac' is all about, well, it's the longer 'taiko' intro from the sessions combined with a new ending. Before you go all nuts, no it's not the source music, it isn't even Zimmer's high strings that we are so familiar with. It's an unused cue from the sessions (12M39B v.3) that seques into 'JTTL'. It's a nice variation but not quite as good as Ives' source or the strings.

I don't wanna spoil too much, but if you're looking for a complete 'movie experience' score for this film, keep looking elsewhere because you're not going to find it in this set. There's simply too much missing; no film mixes, no source music, different combo's, no Cosmic Beam. It's just so dissapointing if you've waited all those years for a complete version to find out that it's just the score vol II. On the other hand, if you think the OST is good, you'll be in for a treat, there are so many beautiful cues, you'll love it. Still a lot of unused cues though.

I still think it's a missed opportunity. This could have been so much better. It's not bad, but it's just too painful to see that there's so much missing.


HunterTech2019-02-10 06:37:33
Can someone tell me if there's anything actually substantive on its own that's missing? Because so far, I just hear a bunch of people complaining because they can't replicate the film audio 100%, thanks to conscious choices made for a listening experience.

I respect those who admire the music in the form it takes for the finished film, but besides a few exceptions, I never could care for any of it.


Witt2019-02-10 10:07:43
@StRuPiE: how is it possible you've had the chance to hear it? I thought it's going to ship on feb 12th?


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 11:24:22
I think you're very harsh to that release, it's rather a blessing they go with what was WRITTEN for the film and not what was edited, remixed & mostly butchered for the film and with source cues...

They've carefully used alternates in the "Film Score" section to not duplicate the content of the CD 3, which was the best idea. Sure, some things are still missing, but let's no be crybabies... :P


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:06:24
In my opinion, at least the 'Cosmic Beam' cues could have been included. To me that's equally important as Zimmer's score. And it has nothing to do with editing/mixing or whathaveyou, it's just an important element in this score. Almost all action sequences have been edited with that music in mind, so to not have it in this set is just brutal.

Again, this set will be interesting for a general audience that are not familiar with the bootlegs/sessions. For us enthusiasts, it's lacking too much substantial elements, regardless of their presented versions.

I'm sure a proper version will present itself in the near future ... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 15:12:31
Sit Back & Relax is in the set, that's enough...

What, you also wanted 18 min of War Drums ?


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:29:46
Actually, 'Sit back & Relax' as presented on the OST, is the short version, which is not used in the film. It's the longer version that has portions in the movie. So no, the short version is not enough...

The other Beam track in this set, 'Concerto for Beam' has also small portions in the movie (mainly the beginning) but most of it is unused.

What I want is 30 secs of Taiko's!


BlueLine2019-02-10 20:33:26
Would be nice to see the "Complete Score" Page to this great score! :)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-11 12:13:00
You've been asking that for years.......


So be it... :o


JamesT2019-02-15 19:13:39
Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes. Nice to finally have all of this music. Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else. I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 19:51:37
So are there credits for this one?

Arturito reply Replies: 20 || 2019-02-05 12:57:32
so dissapointing to see what's on disc 3 and 4. i was really looking forward to hear all the alternate takes and cues, unused tracks which they composed for this movie. there are hours of unused tracks! they could have filled these two discs with those tracks instead of with the material which we already have since 20 years. damn man!

at least i really hope they're offering with "attack on the bivouac" (= journey to the line) the movie version with the dramatic drums and the different ending. that cue is like in interstellar with the docking scene and the missing massive dynamic of the organs. here it is the dramatic drums which gives you even more chills to the cue.

and yeah, glad we've got the other 'leak' with 5,5hours of material, but like i said, missing this especially cue.


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-05 13:00:18
Most of the alternates are basically like a different mix of the same cue, with a layer added or removed, it's not exactly interesting (except maybe for us lol) to just have 3 versions of the same track back to back with slight differences...


mpolonest123 2019-02-05 13:04:46
Yeah, I’m kinda surprised that they didn’t do a really comprehensive release for this. Especially you have almost 6 hours worth of stuff.
On the same token, I can imagine why they didn’t include the recordings of the the various drums/bowls/gongs. Some of those go on for about 20 minutes at a time.

Happy to see the Melanesian album here though!


Arturito2019-02-05 13:05:54
@hybrid: yeah you're right with saying that it's maybe just interesting for us ^^ so it's not really interesting for the huge market. but while it's limited to only 3000 pieces, i have had hopes that they really trying to reach the more zimmer "hardcore" fans like us or from the movie itself. if they would release a huge number of it, then yeah, i would understand the choice, but like i said with that limited number, they could have done better and release also those unused and alternate tracks :(


Oscarilbo2019-02-05 19:00:26
I'm a huge Zimmer fan since 1994... Saw him in the tour in 2017 and loved it every minute. The Thin Red Line is my favorite score from him. Not just redefined Hollywood film music but my personal life also. This has been a big holy grail form me, a dream come true. I love the presentation, I don't need the "unofficial" tracks, just the official ones. I want to have a chronological experience, relieving the film in my head and heart, but also the original soundtrack was one of my favorite listening experiences hearing it for the first time so of course I love to still have that option REMASTERED.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 11:11:55
I'm afraid LLL's version of 'JTTL' is an exact copy of the sessions, judging from the sample on their site. The taiko's sound exactly the same, toned down all the way. So after all these years, still no film version. And sadly, a lot of cues are missing including source music and Cosmic Beam cues. A missed opportunity in my eyes.


timothy2019-02-06 11:57:17
What a let down this is, if it's true. My goodness, it was the only chance and opportunity to give this masterpiece its justice by releasing the complete stuff. not only the unused and unreleased ones, but also the movie version of it. now you're having the original score, and the opportunity to release the real deal, but noooo, we're releasing again a different version of it and hey, again the original score in disc 3, because of what? not having enough material to fill disc 3? really?! and seriously, i'm not getting the argument that this is interesting just for us. LLL is considered to reach the fews, the small market for enthusiatics and not for the random listener. and with this limited release, you wanted to reach only those ones who are in love with this movie and score since 20 years!!! so don't tell me we've changed the strategy to reach a bigger market with this and miss the opportunity to release again what we already have. you've had space with two more discs to fill the lack, but no you don't want it.

awh man i'm really SO upset. it was the only chance that existed to finally have released what has been written for this majestic movie. and i'm afraid, we'll never ever get such an opportunity again.


Kent Öberg2019-02-06 12:31:15
This is the complete score. Why do people want to hear unreleased, rejected stuff so much? Also, let's be honest... Hans is a little bit of a mythomaniac and his "I wrote 10 hours of music that didn't even make the movie" is probably greatly exaggerated.


Knight2019-02-06 12:36:32
Because unreleased/film versions of cues are normally better than the ones as presented on album


timothy2019-02-06 13:03:10
we want the unreleased stuff, because it's the first vision of the composer. so if you're releasing the complete and the alternates, you've got both visions of the director and the composer which is a great listening experience.

and as you're talking about the complete score, well yeah, then release the real complete score how it is played in the movie and don't release a different cue like "Attack On The Bivouac" with missing taikos which are important to the dramatic scene and an alternate ending on the cue aswell. so what's the point here to release an alternate cue, which wasn't heard in that form in the movie? and saying no to the real version and also no to other alternates? makes absolutely no sense at all.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 13:13:21
I'm with you timothy. There could have been put a little bit more effort in creating film mixes for these tracks. As it looks, LLL will just release the raw sessions without any meddling. And that's great for a general audience, but not for the enthusiasts. And to be fair, the lack of unreleased/unused tracks is the least of my concern... the lack of source music/beam is a real kick in the face because it's a substantial part of this score.


...2019-02-06 14:36:24
@Kent Öberg

having actually listened to hours of music written for this film, I can confirm that there really is a lot of material.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 15:39:34
I must watch the film (or just the "Attack On The Bivouac" sequence to see all the fuss about the Taikos. I think the samples sounds different enough from the album version and the drum layer is loud enough IMO). Now what really bothers me is that it probably does not include the string film version of "The Unanswered Question" by Charles Ives which apparently fades in to "Attack On The Bivouac" in the film.

There's an alt track that I most certain is included because the track length and title checks out and I'm very happy because it's incredible.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 16:19:34
@Ahmad, the taiko's are definitely toned down on the OST or any other source available. There's only one exception, my Ultimate edition which has the taiko's slightly amped up in those particular scenes. And you're absolutely right, the crossfade at the end of the track is so much better with 'The Unanswered Question', not that Zimmer's strings are bad, but Ives' cue flows seamlessly, it's so haunting and beautiful at the same time.

I think the alt track will be the same alt track from the sessions, but don't get your hopes up, it's also missing the taiko's. The funny thing is, the fuss started 20 years ago and it's still the same fuss today.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 16:31:27
I'm personally satisfied with what I heard (from the sample of course) but I'm bummed about The Unanswered Question. When I first watched the film, I looked for it immediately but unfortunately the film version is different than what's available.

The alt track I mentioned is actually another cue: Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)

If it's the one I think it is, then I'm gonna be very happy.

I guess fans and content producers rarely are on the same page. I don't understand why such things happen but...
This, No Time For Caution (Interstellar). There's always something wrong lol.


Oscarilbo2019-02-06 19:26:20
I don't know what you guys are listening to. I can hear the taikos pretty damn well in those samples, with my headphones. I then listen to the original OST and I can barely noticed them there, even looking for them. But on the samples provided by LaLaLand I can hear them with no problem at all, pretty evidently. Yeah, maybe in the film they are brought up to the front a bit more, but I can bet that's on sound mixer part and no Zimmer nor Malick, which of course ultimately they had no problem with, but it doesn't mean it reflects the original intent.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 22:56:14
Why would you assume I don't know what I'm talking about? In fact, I know for sure that the taiko's are not the same. This is a discussion that's going on and on for years. Sure you can hear hints of the taiko's in the sample, of course that's the work of Lee Scott, the music editor. But the reference that really counts is how they are being used in the film. And clearly that's not how they sound on the OST nor any other source (bootlegs/sessions).


Ahmad2019-02-07 00:01:51
Revisited the scene and yes the Taikos are a bit louder but I still think it's loud enough in the sample. Like you can hear it. It's not buried or anything. Funny thing is that I'm more interested in the church bell sound that is not so present compared to the film version.

I don't know how long JTTL is in the sessions but the length of it in the film is about 11 minutes and LLL's version matches that. So will that version include The Unanswered Question or is that a long shot? Can't wait to find out.


StRuPiE2019-02-07 00:30:49
Well, that's one possibility (but I think they would have credited the source music). Maybe another possibility is that they actually included the solo taiko's that precedes the the cue (runs solo for +-30secs). That's my biggest hope and if that's the case here, well than I take back every word I said about the damn taiko's :) because that means a complete film mix is indeed possible.


Jason2019-02-07 05:51:46
I mean the release seems fine to me


Medigo2019-02-07 10:42:57
These louder drums may simply be another example of post session mix edits like with `No Time for Caution`.

(Some music in the Pirates movies had different mixing as well, like the organs in Davy Jones commanded)

David Hand reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 18:48:45
Hello from North Lincolnshire, England and one of Hans Zimmer's many fans over here. I have many of his scores, saw him live in Manchester a few years ago (just an amazing concert) and I must admit, this is one of my favourite of all the Masters scores, but is it worth trying to get this 4 cd set. I have read with interest the comments below. I look forward to any further comments. Thank you

Hari Haran reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 10:44:23
Well, now there's a sexy album cover. :D

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 01:53:58
The sessions fits perfectly in the 4 cd's and maybe the original soundtrack. It would be fantastic if they include the melenessian songs.

Jason reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-04 00:42:04
Release already I want this bad!!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 17:10:24
Oh man, having a red/orange Thin Red Line cover just feels weird to me. That score is so calm and meditative for the most part, red is the LAST color I think of when listening to it.

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 05:55:58
This will be interesting, I really enjoy Lalaland releases. I listened to this score years ago and need to listen to it again.

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