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Good question. I honestly get the sense this largely scored to picture, given how varied the cues are, plus the fact Hans did the Day of the Dead and Tuesday cues alone.<br><br>The Batman Suite itself almost sounds like it was done after the score itself was composed, but I could definitely be wrong about that.<br><br>By the way, pretty fucking cool Hans did all (six?) of the themes on this. IMO that goes a long way to show he can still do really solid thematic work when he wants to.So, any confirmation of who actually did what on this score?<br><br>It's one of my favorite RCP-styled scores ever, but I have to admit, it sounds far more Hans & Lorne than Daft Punk. I mean, several of the cues are almost direct copies of Inception cues, albeit more heavily electronic and very differently orchestrated.Shaken.... Not Stirred ;)California here. Will travel to Europe to see you. No need to come to USA. We will come to you. Best regards, GarySingle from Ben's score for The Invisible Man was released and I'm pleasantly surprised by it. https://youtu.be/f-aH9kDKVBY
I’ve been coming back to “But I Will Always Be Faster” and “Sonic The Hedgehog” repeatedly, I’m genuinely impressed by how strong the writing is in both cues. Honestly it doesn’t sound like Holkenborg (mixing aside).Hi there,<br><br>i have seen that the Score (Soundtrack) will be released on 27th of march. But i would like to know somthing maybe any of you knows:<br><br>Will the Song itself be released physical as a Single CD? Or will it be available just for download?<br>Because if there will be no CD, it would be the first James Bond Song which is not released as a Single CD.Rejected scores have gotten official releases before, such as Timeline by Jerry Goldsmith. So even if the Snyder Cut never gets released, I'd hope Junkie could potentially still work out a deal to get his original score out there. Keeping my fingers crossed.No Time to Die coming by Decca 27th March<br><br>https:// www.udiscovermusic.com/news/hans-zimmer-no- time-to-die-soundtrack/?fbclid=IwAR1UtjXatRpCQyXWJ9f7YYfT9Eb k5jy4d7XnlS6XzX4vTiOTxFfvQ0PWgaIIt all depends on whether WB releases the Snyder Cut OR no I don't even want to think about the other case & with the way things are going now it looks like we'll definitely get Zack Snyder's Justice League if not today then tomorrow and only then your question will have any meaning.<br>TL;DR the score will only happen after WB #ReleaseTheSnyderCut
Hybrid, Oscar Senen and Joan Martorell orchestrate the score ?Budapest, please :(Same question here, is concert in Poland even concidered to occur?if the link doesn't work for some reason, the song is called Cliffhanger Sky High on youtubeHi All, sorry it took so long to upload, My friend helped me set up a youtube channel to upload tracks to. I am very inspired by the classic Zimmer Scores of the 90's. I envisioned A climactic rescue aboard A speeding train for this particular cue.<br>https://youtu.be/4WyMIcpqMRk <br>
I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.<br>===============<br><br>No one dragged anything. <br><br>I briefly mentioned that franchise, among many other things you conveniently ignored (you do that a lot), to prove a simple point: that a director doesn't get to make 5 movies from the same franchise if people aren't enjoying his work. Simple as that. I never talked about the "quality" of each of those movies. Go see the comment again.<br><br>YOU picked up on this and started talking obsessively about the TF. <br><br><br>==============<br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes. <br>==============<br><br>Look at your first comment here, pal. Look at it good! Snarky, dismissive, almost trollish, and with a clear intention to provoke people. Let me quote it: "Another day, another Bay film that doesn't know what fun is." <br><br>I only "go after" people who can't share their opinions in a respectful, mature way. There are a lot of comments here I disagreed with. But I never confronted those people. Why? Because they know how to properly share an opinion. <br><br>I only go after people who provoke, make fun of someone/something and troll. I've never "attacked" a person who didn't deserve that kind of response. My post history here speaks for itself. <br><br><br>===================<br>And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br>===================<br><br>Nope. Not even close. <br><br>You're just bitter that I'm using quotes from proven, talented people like Spielberg who support Bay. What quotes can your side use? Just quotes from knucklehead film bloggers and critics who hate half of what Hollywood makes. <br><br>No one with an actual integrity and knowledge of the film business can dismiss what Bay has accomplished. You may not like his stuff, but to completely dismiss him as a filmmaker is.......moronic. Truth is, it's only small fries on the internet who are angry that their favorite mid-level directors aren't as big and successful as Bay.<br><br>That's really the bottom line. <br><br>Speaking of that, who is YOUR favorite filmmaker? Go ahead, share it with us. Let's see who is that PERFECT filmmaker you drool over.<br><br>I'm really curious.<br><br>==============<br>By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films. But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br>==============<br><br>Huh??<br><br>When did I said that box office success or box office failure means that a movie is good or bad?? I never that. So if you don't mind, stop putting words in my mouth.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>==================<br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't<br>==================<br><br><br>Kinda ironic coming from the person who ignored the majority of the stuff I said here. Careful cherry-picking, convenient ignoring of stuff, and putting words in my mouth is apparently what you like to do. <br><br><br>================<br>What do you mean "next time?" Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.<br>================<br><br>Uhhhh, that's because it IS a joke. Because it is not true and because it was posted with the clear intention to provoke. You are the Negative Nancy here, my friend. Not me. Jesus Christ, even your nickname tells people exactly what they can expect from you......"Cynical Makooti". <br><br><br>====================<br>I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument<br>====================<br><br>Oh, that's true....................you're certainly not winning this argument. I mean, that's obvious. <br><br>And..... I never posted a lie. Just because "your sources" claim something different doesn't mean it's the truth. Pacific Rim wasn't a success - considering the huge expactations and the fact that the movie's budget is $200 freakin' million - and they DID try to start a franchise with 300. They failed. <br><br><br>================<br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br>================<br><br>That's rich. Coming from the guy who calls himself "Cynical Makooti". The guy who now plays the victim, even though he was the one who started this with a childish, trollish comment. <br><br>Look at my first reply to you. I was jokingly mimicking your style. Intentionally. Then you tried to be a smartass with your next reply. But EVEN THEN, I responded in a normal way with my second post. After that........you unleashed your true self. <br><br>And now, you're acting like the victim: "Poor me, being attacked by a crazy Bay fan!" <br><br>So please, don't talk about self-awareness. It ain't working.<br><br><br><br>================<br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br>================<br><br>Haha, maybe you should read more Forbes. Take a look at what they said about the entire (already failed) Pac Rim universe. Read a bit more on how much money the studio lost from the first flick and why they actually went with a sequel. It ain't because the first one was a beloved hit. <br><br><br>=======<br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves. That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br>=======<br><br>Okay, I believe you. Now, would you please share the link to that statement from Paramount. <br><br>Thank you. <br><br><br>=============<br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br>=============<br><br>Hey, it's certainly a better and more reasonable place than your world. A world where you completely dismiss and ignore the accomplishments of one of the biggest filmmakers out there.<br><br>What's your next claim? <br><br>That Donnie Trump is the best President in history?<br><br><br>Have a nice day!Do any of you think that Junkie's Justice League score will ever get released or leaked? I was really excited to hear how Junkie planned on developing the themes used in the prior DCEU movies. Especially the Batman themes from BVS. It's a damn shame how WB handled that film."Why do Bay naysayers pretend that Bay only directs TF movies? It's very interesting...... Pretty much all complaints against Bay are connected to the TF movies.<br><br>Newsflash: Bay was a proven and very successful action filmmaker wayyyyyyyyyyyyy before TF1."<br><br>Newsflash: I avoided bringing up the TF films in this thread until AFTER you dragged them into it.  Only then did I treat them as fair game.  Considering they make up a third of his filmography, I don't see why I SHOULDN'T address them.  How convenient is it that bringing them up is only ever valid when YOU do it?<br><br>More to the point, I already said I thought his decline kicked in from Pearl Harbor onwards.  The TF films are just his rock bottom.<br><br>"So let me get this straight: trying to be as objective as possible, in a non-threating way, quoting people who actually know what they're talking about and certainly not treating my opinion as fact, makes me......psychotic."<br><br>Going after every person that doesn't like Bay and trying to obsessively "debunk" them is psychotic, yes.  And constantly referring to other people's opinions and whinging about the box office doesn't make you objective, especially with how self-contradictory the latter has been.<br><br>Pain & Gain and 13 Hours, his supposedly best films, also have his lowest box office turnouts.  13 Hours was a flat-out bomb.  By your own "objective" reasoning, this would make them his worst films.  But you don't acknowledge that, because you don't actually care about objectivity.<br><br>You care about faking it when it suits you, and chucking it when it doesn't.<br><br>"Next time, I'll just act like a complete jerk, insulting everyone and everything."<br><br>What do you mean "next time?"  Your first reply here was calling my opinion a joke.  You already have this method down.  You're just too dishonest to admit it.<br><br>Notice how I avoided accusing you of anything until AFTER you started outright lying about movies and flaunting it as objective fact.<br><br>You insulted ME first, pal.  I didn't insult you for anything other than lying to win an argument.  Not for your opinions, not for your celebrity crush, for being a disingenuous twat. <br><br>Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.<br><br>"Reviews, RT scores, and crappy film blog "think pieces" are also not proof of quality."<br><br>Then it's a good thing I never quoted a single one of those, let alone as objective proof, isn't it?<br><br>Man, appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, mistaking correlation for causation, slothful induction, strawmanning, I could make a bingo game outta this.<br><br>"So that flick, according to you, turned a profit.......but TLK - budget of also $200 million and with a worldwide gross of $605 million..........is a bomb?"<br><br>Not "according to me."  According to the studios that make the actual films.  And Forbes.  Remember Forbes?  You considered their word inarguable fact a couple posts ago.<br><br>https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/09/02/pacif ic-rim-and-more-domestic-flops-that-became-global-hits/#3f3e 914d7c18<br><br>Well whaddaya know?<br><br>Pacific Rim was a domestic bomb that turned things around with its international box office.<br><br>That thing you said TF5 was but actually wasn't.<br><br>The Last Knight lost about $100M according to Paramount themselves.  That doesn't sound like an international success to me.<br><br>Maybe it does to you, but I can't speak for that little fantasy world you seem to be living in right now.<br><br>Wow!  Just wow!ThxSeville, The Bait, Ambrose Welcomes Nyah, Chimera Myth, Beach Fight, Ambrose Dies.
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Visceral Ambience
Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltJohn PowellJeff Rona
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAmbient Music Design
The Thin Red Line (Limited)
Label: La-La Land Records
Length: 263'35
HZimmer.com rating:        Not yet rated
Fans rating:     rate at 1 out of 5 rate at 2 out of 5 rate at 3 out of 5 rate at 4 out of 5 rate at 5 out of 5   2/5 (1103 votes)
CD1 - THE FILM SCORE
  1. Nature Montage (5:38)
  2. Witt With Melanesians (2:54)
  3. Witt In Brig - Tall And Quintard (8:27)
  4. Staros Below Deck (1:58)
  5. March Inland (8:21)
  6. Staros Prays (2:23)
  7. The Grass - Tall Calls Staros (3:27)
  8. Keck's Death (4:47)
  9. Walsh Helps Tella (2:20)
  10. Staros Refuses Order (8:11)
  11. Bell's Patrol (3:58)
  12. Bell Goes Alone (3:31)
  13. Welsh & Witt Talk (3:49)
  14. Gaff's Party Leaves (3:17)
  15. Gaff's Party Returns (2:04)
  16. Attack On The Bivouac (Long Version) (11:03)
CD2 - THE FILM SCORE (CONTINUED)
  1. Staros Is Relieved (2:08)
  2. Tall Does Nails (1:22)
  3. Airfield - Bell Flashback (5:57)
  4. Marty's Letter (3:42)
  5. Village Flashback (2:04)
  6. Witt Travels (5:48)
  7. Japanese Appear - Witt Chased (5:27)
  8. Witt Killed (2:15)
  9. Witt's Funeral (5:17)
  10. Cemetery (4:48)
  11. End Credits (5:23)
  12. Concerto For Beam (Extended Version) - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (6:09)
    Additional Music:
  13. Keck's Death (Alternate) (4:32)
  14. Gaff's Party Returns (Alternate) (2:05)
  15. Attack On The Bivouac (Short Version) (8:05)
  16. Staros Is Relieved (Alternate) (3:06)
  17. Tall Does Nails (Alternate) (1:30)
  18. Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)
CD3 - THE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK ALBUM
  1. The Corall Atoll (8:00)
  2. The Lagoon (8:36)
  3. Journey To The Line (9:21)
  4. Light (7:19)
  5. Beam - John Powell (feat. Francesco Lupica) (3:44)
  6. Air (2:21)
  7. Stone In My Heart (4:28)
  8. The Village (5:52)
  9. Silence (5:06)
  10. God U Tekem Laef Blong Mi - Melanesian Choirs (1:58)
  11. Sit Back And Relax - Francesco Lupica (2:06)
CD4 - MELANESIAN CHOIRS: THE BLESSED ISLANDS - CHANTS FROM THE THIN RED LINE
  1. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:21)
  2. Soon My Lord (1:16)
  3. God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi (2:17)
  4. Early Morning At Tabalia (0:29)
  5. Procession Chant 1 (1:28)
  6. Procession Chant 2 (Kuston Tune) (0:55)
  7. Holly (1:40)
  8. Procession Chant 3 (1:03)
  9. We Love To Sing (3:39)
  10. Mi Go Longway (2:51)
  11. Jisas‚ Masta Mi Save (2:57)
  12. Procession Chant 4 (0:36)
  13. Together Be (2:26)
  14. Sunday Service Hymn (1:43)
  15. Halleluia!‚ Sing To Jesus (1:30)
  16. Jesus‚ You Are Here (2:15)
  17. Bybye (2:33)
  18. We Are One Big Happy Family (2:29)
  19. Traditional Lullaby (2:16)
  20. Cho Cho Vancho (1:24)
  21. Remember (0:54)
  22. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:53)
  23. Pray For Us (2:43)
  24. God All Mighty (2:09)
  25. Procession Chorus (3:16)
  26. Kyrie (3:02)
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JimmyCakes reply Replies: 3 || 2020-01-25 01:34:48
2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?


Scorefan2020-01-25 23:48:04
'Cause maybe the expected all the cues from the sessions


Makooti2020-01-27 13:19:40
Honestly man, I never understood this site's ratings either.


Hybrid Soldier2020-01-27 18:33:44
I've demanded for it to be removed a long time ago... Maybe in 10 years, who knows...

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-15 15:58:34
Has anyone noticed a high-pitched whining in the background of some tracks? It's particularly bad in the mid-section of "Witt in Brig/Tall and Quintard", from about 4 minutes onwards. It's such a high frequency that I bet a lot of people wouldn't hear it (including the QA team at LLL, I guess), but I can and it's really debilitating.

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Anonymous2019-08-16 01:06:24
so only you can hear it eh? Zaralyth? that you? lol


Anonymous2019-08-16 20:42:11
Zaras a girl and I agree with Edmund there is some sine signals and noise in the upper register that is noticeable in some cues. But that's the nature of the media it was recorded on.

You could use a spectral repair tool and non-destructive noise removal tool to fix them, such as those found in iZotope RX

Oscarilbo reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-07 22:11:45
Hybrid or anyone... the song God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi was or was not composed by Zimmer? I’ve always assumed it was the only melanesian song he actually composed, but reading the new lala land released cd’s booklet the author talks about it as if the theme Zimmer used within the context of the movie was only based on that chant and not actually composed by him.

Could anyone clarify this for me? thank you in advance.


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-08 20:16:13
Hmmmm to me there was never a doubt, the melody is from the melanisians, it's a traditional chant (and therefore, melody that goes with it).

The orchestration of it for TTRL was Klaus.


Oscarilbo2019-07-09 19:38:45
Thank you Hybrid. Also I've been years looking for the supposedly "hymn" or traditional folk song Staro's theme is based on so I can listen to it in it's original form, but have never succeeded. Do you happen to know it by any chance?

Thanks so much

StRuPiE reply Replies: 9 || 2019-02-10 00:19:02
Allow me to say a few things about this release. After a first listen, I can confirm that the film version of the taiko's are (still) not used in this set. As I predicted earlier, taiko's in both tracks (March Inland/Attack On The Bivouac) are missing or seriously toned down. So a film mix of both cues, for those in doubt, still not released.

Also, for those wondering what the long version of 'Attack On The Bivouac' is all about, well, it's the longer 'taiko' intro from the sessions combined with a new ending. Before you go all nuts, no it's not the source music, it isn't even Zimmer's high strings that we are so familiar with. It's an unused cue from the sessions (12M39B v.3) that seques into 'JTTL'. It's a nice variation but not quite as good as Ives' source or the strings.

I don't wanna spoil too much, but if you're looking for a complete 'movie experience' score for this film, keep looking elsewhere because you're not going to find it in this set. There's simply too much missing; no film mixes, no source music, different combo's, no Cosmic Beam. It's just so dissapointing if you've waited all those years for a complete version to find out that it's just the score vol II. On the other hand, if you think the OST is good, you'll be in for a treat, there are so many beautiful cues, you'll love it. Still a lot of unused cues though.

I still think it's a missed opportunity. This could have been so much better. It's not bad, but it's just too painful to see that there's so much missing.


HunterTech2019-02-10 06:37:33
Can someone tell me if there's anything actually substantive on its own that's missing? Because so far, I just hear a bunch of people complaining because they can't replicate the film audio 100%, thanks to conscious choices made for a listening experience.

I respect those who admire the music in the form it takes for the finished film, but besides a few exceptions, I never could care for any of it.


Witt2019-02-10 10:07:43
@StRuPiE: how is it possible you've had the chance to hear it? I thought it's going to ship on feb 12th?


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 11:24:22
I think you're very harsh to that release, it's rather a blessing they go with what was WRITTEN for the film and not what was edited, remixed & mostly butchered for the film and with source cues...

They've carefully used alternates in the "Film Score" section to not duplicate the content of the CD 3, which was the best idea. Sure, some things are still missing, but let's no be crybabies... :P


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:06:24
In my opinion, at least the 'Cosmic Beam' cues could have been included. To me that's equally important as Zimmer's score. And it has nothing to do with editing/mixing or whathaveyou, it's just an important element in this score. Almost all action sequences have been edited with that music in mind, so to not have it in this set is just brutal.

Again, this set will be interesting for a general audience that are not familiar with the bootlegs/sessions. For us enthusiasts, it's lacking too much substantial elements, regardless of their presented versions.

I'm sure a proper version will present itself in the near future ... ;)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-10 15:12:31
Sit Back & Relax is in the set, that's enough...

What, you also wanted 18 min of War Drums ?


StRuPiE2019-02-10 15:29:46
Actually, 'Sit back & Relax' as presented on the OST, is the short version, which is not used in the film. It's the longer version that has portions in the movie. So no, the short version is not enough...

The other Beam track in this set, 'Concerto for Beam' has also small portions in the movie (mainly the beginning) but most of it is unused.

What I want is 30 secs of Taiko's!


BlueLine2019-02-10 20:33:26
Would be nice to see the "Complete Score" Page to this great score! :)


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-11 12:13:00
You've been asking that for years.......


So be it... :o


JamesT2019-02-15 19:13:39
Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes. Nice to finally have all of this music. Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else. I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-09 19:51:37
So are there credits for this one?

Arturito reply Replies: 20 || 2019-02-05 12:57:32
so dissapointing to see what's on disc 3 and 4. i was really looking forward to hear all the alternate takes and cues, unused tracks which they composed for this movie. there are hours of unused tracks! they could have filled these two discs with those tracks instead of with the material which we already have since 20 years. damn man!

at least i really hope they're offering with "attack on the bivouac" (= journey to the line) the movie version with the dramatic drums and the different ending. that cue is like in interstellar with the docking scene and the missing massive dynamic of the organs. here it is the dramatic drums which gives you even more chills to the cue.

and yeah, glad we've got the other 'leak' with 5,5hours of material, but like i said, missing this especially cue.


Hybrid Soldier2019-02-05 13:00:18
Most of the alternates are basically like a different mix of the same cue, with a layer added or removed, it's not exactly interesting (except maybe for us lol) to just have 3 versions of the same track back to back with slight differences...


mpolonest123 2019-02-05 13:04:46
Yeah, I’m kinda surprised that they didn’t do a really comprehensive release for this. Especially you have almost 6 hours worth of stuff.
On the same token, I can imagine why they didn’t include the recordings of the the various drums/bowls/gongs. Some of those go on for about 20 minutes at a time.

Happy to see the Melanesian album here though!


Arturito2019-02-05 13:05:54
@hybrid: yeah you're right with saying that it's maybe just interesting for us ^^ so it's not really interesting for the huge market. but while it's limited to only 3000 pieces, i have had hopes that they really trying to reach the more zimmer "hardcore" fans like us or from the movie itself. if they would release a huge number of it, then yeah, i would understand the choice, but like i said with that limited number, they could have done better and release also those unused and alternate tracks :(


Oscarilbo2019-02-05 19:00:26
I'm a huge Zimmer fan since 1994... Saw him in the tour in 2017 and loved it every minute. The Thin Red Line is my favorite score from him. Not just redefined Hollywood film music but my personal life also. This has been a big holy grail form me, a dream come true. I love the presentation, I don't need the "unofficial" tracks, just the official ones. I want to have a chronological experience, relieving the film in my head and heart, but also the original soundtrack was one of my favorite listening experiences hearing it for the first time so of course I love to still have that option REMASTERED.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 11:11:55
I'm afraid LLL's version of 'JTTL' is an exact copy of the sessions, judging from the sample on their site. The taiko's sound exactly the same, toned down all the way. So after all these years, still no film version. And sadly, a lot of cues are missing including source music and Cosmic Beam cues. A missed opportunity in my eyes.


timothy2019-02-06 11:57:17
What a let down this is, if it's true. My goodness, it was the only chance and opportunity to give this masterpiece its justice by releasing the complete stuff. not only the unused and unreleased ones, but also the movie version of it. now you're having the original score, and the opportunity to release the real deal, but noooo, we're releasing again a different version of it and hey, again the original score in disc 3, because of what? not having enough material to fill disc 3? really?! and seriously, i'm not getting the argument that this is interesting just for us. LLL is considered to reach the fews, the small market for enthusiatics and not for the random listener. and with this limited release, you wanted to reach only those ones who are in love with this movie and score since 20 years!!! so don't tell me we've changed the strategy to reach a bigger market with this and miss the opportunity to release again what we already have. you've had space with two more discs to fill the lack, but no you don't want it.

awh man i'm really SO upset. it was the only chance that existed to finally have released what has been written for this majestic movie. and i'm afraid, we'll never ever get such an opportunity again.


Kent Öberg2019-02-06 12:31:15
This is the complete score. Why do people want to hear unreleased, rejected stuff so much? Also, let's be honest... Hans is a little bit of a mythomaniac and his "I wrote 10 hours of music that didn't even make the movie" is probably greatly exaggerated.


Knight2019-02-06 12:36:32
Because unreleased/film versions of cues are normally better than the ones as presented on album


timothy2019-02-06 13:03:10
we want the unreleased stuff, because it's the first vision of the composer. so if you're releasing the complete and the alternates, you've got both visions of the director and the composer which is a great listening experience.

and as you're talking about the complete score, well yeah, then release the real complete score how it is played in the movie and don't release a different cue like "Attack On The Bivouac" with missing taikos which are important to the dramatic scene and an alternate ending on the cue aswell. so what's the point here to release an alternate cue, which wasn't heard in that form in the movie? and saying no to the real version and also no to other alternates? makes absolutely no sense at all.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 13:13:21
I'm with you timothy. There could have been put a little bit more effort in creating film mixes for these tracks. As it looks, LLL will just release the raw sessions without any meddling. And that's great for a general audience, but not for the enthusiasts. And to be fair, the lack of unreleased/unused tracks is the least of my concern... the lack of source music/beam is a real kick in the face because it's a substantial part of this score.


...2019-02-06 14:36:24
@Kent Öberg

having actually listened to hours of music written for this film, I can confirm that there really is a lot of material.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 15:39:34
I must watch the film (or just the "Attack On The Bivouac" sequence to see all the fuss about the Taikos. I think the samples sounds different enough from the album version and the drum layer is loud enough IMO). Now what really bothers me is that it probably does not include the string film version of "The Unanswered Question" by Charles Ives which apparently fades in to "Attack On The Bivouac" in the film.

There's an alt track that I most certain is included because the track length and title checks out and I'm very happy because it's incredible.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 16:19:34
@Ahmad, the taiko's are definitely toned down on the OST or any other source available. There's only one exception, my Ultimate edition which has the taiko's slightly amped up in those particular scenes. And you're absolutely right, the crossfade at the end of the track is so much better with 'The Unanswered Question', not that Zimmer's strings are bad, but Ives' cue flows seamlessly, it's so haunting and beautiful at the same time.

I think the alt track will be the same alt track from the sessions, but don't get your hopes up, it's also missing the taiko's. The funny thing is, the fuss started 20 years ago and it's still the same fuss today.


Ahmad 2019-02-06 16:31:27
I'm personally satisfied with what I heard (from the sample of course) but I'm bummed about The Unanswered Question. When I first watched the film, I looked for it immediately but unfortunately the film version is different than what's available.

The alt track I mentioned is actually another cue: Witt Travels (Alternate) (6:43)

If it's the one I think it is, then I'm gonna be very happy.

I guess fans and content producers rarely are on the same page. I don't understand why such things happen but...
This, No Time For Caution (Interstellar). There's always something wrong lol.


Oscarilbo2019-02-06 19:26:20
I don't know what you guys are listening to. I can hear the taikos pretty damn well in those samples, with my headphones. I then listen to the original OST and I can barely noticed them there, even looking for them. But on the samples provided by LaLaLand I can hear them with no problem at all, pretty evidently. Yeah, maybe in the film they are brought up to the front a bit more, but I can bet that's on sound mixer part and no Zimmer nor Malick, which of course ultimately they had no problem with, but it doesn't mean it reflects the original intent.


StRuPiE2019-02-06 22:56:14
Why would you assume I don't know what I'm talking about? In fact, I know for sure that the taiko's are not the same. This is a discussion that's going on and on for years. Sure you can hear hints of the taiko's in the sample, of course that's the work of Lee Scott, the music editor. But the reference that really counts is how they are being used in the film. And clearly that's not how they sound on the OST nor any other source (bootlegs/sessions).


Ahmad2019-02-07 00:01:51
Revisited the scene and yes the Taikos are a bit louder but I still think it's loud enough in the sample. Like you can hear it. It's not buried or anything. Funny thing is that I'm more interested in the church bell sound that is not so present compared to the film version.

I don't know how long JTTL is in the sessions but the length of it in the film is about 11 minutes and LLL's version matches that. So will that version include The Unanswered Question or is that a long shot? Can't wait to find out.


StRuPiE2019-02-07 00:30:49
Well, that's one possibility (but I think they would have credited the source music). Maybe another possibility is that they actually included the solo taiko's that precedes the the cue (runs solo for +-30secs). That's my biggest hope and if that's the case here, well than I take back every word I said about the damn taiko's :) because that means a complete film mix is indeed possible.


Jason2019-02-07 05:51:46
I mean the release seems fine to me


Medigo2019-02-07 10:42:57
These louder drums may simply be another example of post session mix edits like with `No Time for Caution`.

(Some music in the Pirates movies had different mixing as well, like the organs in Davy Jones commanded)

David Hand reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 18:48:45
Hello from North Lincolnshire, England and one of Hans Zimmer's many fans over here. I have many of his scores, saw him live in Manchester a few years ago (just an amazing concert) and I must admit, this is one of my favourite of all the Masters scores, but is it worth trying to get this 4 cd set. I have read with interest the comments below. I look forward to any further comments. Thank you

Hari Haran reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 10:44:23
Well, now there's a sexy album cover. :D

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-05 01:53:58
The sessions fits perfectly in the 4 cd's and maybe the original soundtrack. It would be fantastic if they include the melenessian songs.

Jason reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-04 00:42:04
Release already I want this bad!!!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 17:10:24
Oh man, having a red/orange Thin Red Line cover just feels weird to me. That score is so calm and meditative for the most part, red is the LAST color I think of when listening to it.

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-03 05:55:58
This will be interesting, I really enjoy Lalaland releases. I listened to this score years ago and need to listen to it again.

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