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I was honored, back in 2006, to meet both Nick Glennie-Smith and Harry Gregson-Williams.<br><br>I talked with both about The Rock, and here's what they told.<br><br>Nick & Hans worked very closely on most of their cues. That's why it's so hard to notice any difference between their own styles (and why they share most of the credits).<br>Harry worked separately from Nick & Hans. He remembered working on the San Francisco Chase (though we know Don Harper helped at some point in the process), and on "a lot of the action material from the second half of the movie, once the heroes reach Alcatraz".<br>The credits here tend to prove they were right.<br><br>All the Opening Titles / SEAL Attack is a bit complicated. Hans might have written the theme, but it also might be arranged for pictures by Nick Glennie-Smith (plus there's a lot more going on in these tracks than the man theme alone). So, well, I guess the final result still is a collaborative effort.A brilliant score, no matter what some people might say. Some of the darkest and most beautiful themes by Hans Zimmer were born here, as well as a lot of very exciting and propulsive electronic techniques. <br>Heck, I even like the movie! The score fits like a glove.<br>It helps that I'm a huge Tony Scott fan though.<br><br>Zimmer would even 'steal' from this score quite a bit in some of his later films. The 'Wayne Manor Suite' from TDKR comes to mind, as well as one of the Blade Runner 2049 themes being strangely similar to The Fan's 'Opening Titles' theme, and I'm sure there are other examples.<br><br>I would love for a complete version to be officially released sometime. It's very unlikely, but one can dream...Listen to the first demo at NGS demos album of "The Rock". The opening and SEAL Attack have a few notes from original NGS theme. That's why NGS is credited to it.I remember hearing something about NGS not wanting his name in the opening credits since it was a Hans cue playing. So yeah. I think the opening is really just Zimmer and the NGS credit is a formality since it was supposed to be Nick’s score.I'm sorry, disregard EVERYTHING I just wrote...The credit on "SEAL Attack" is HZ/NGS/Stern, not HZ/HGW/Stern. Not sure how I missed that. *facepalm*
OK, so a thought...<br><br>"Opening" and "SEAL Attack" are functionally identical; Hybrid says that Hans originally wrote it for the latter scene and it was then placed over the main titles of the film. However, the former is credited to Hans and NGS, the latter to Hans, HGW and Steven Stern. Presumably, since HGW/Stern aren't credited on "Opening", their contribution to "SEAL Attack" is limited to that first minute, which does indeed have a lot of HGW-ish percussion work to my ears. That leaves the rest of "SEAL Attack" as Hans' work alone, which begs the question: why the heck is NGS credited for "Opening", then, since it's basically identical? Screw it, I'm labeling that a solo Hans cue. Always bugged me that there wasn't at least one on this score. :pHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comThat's the 'Album Version' of Time To Suit UpI'm "missing" three of the tracks for the complete score - CA Suite, WS Suite, and the alternate version of Time to Suit Up. <br><br>It looks like the CA and WS suites are pretty much the same ones on the official release as the lengths match up perfectly, but where can I find the alternate of Suit Up?
Cheers mateI agree. Great score. This is "Hans Zimmer Dark Minimalism" done absolutely right. And the Oscorp stuff has to be temp. It goes up and down in just the right places.Forgot Macrotus, so the numbering messed up on 5-8 lol... Macrotus = Father to the Rescue + Hide in the Dark + Courthouse Pt. 1... Also, Myotis actually = Initiation into the League + Temple Fight. <br><br>If you have the End Credits too, that's a Batman Arrives/Backup mashup + Training + Father to the Rescue + Bruce Left for Dead + Batman Theme.<br>Gotcha covered. <br><br>1. Vespertilio = Batman Titles + The Long Walk<br>2. Eptesicus = Bruce Goes Home + Training <br>3. Myotis = Temple Fight<br>4. Barbastella = Mugging Pt. 2 + Bat Cave <br>6. Artibeus = Dockyard Ambush Pt. 1 + Meeting Ducard<br>7. Tadarida = Rachel in the Bat Cave + Fight in Crane's Lab Pt. 1 + Batman on Fire + Microwave Stolen<br>8. Antrozus = Facing the League + Gordon at Home <br>9. Nycteris = Prototypes + Why Bats? + Finders Keepers Pt. 1<br>10. Molossus = Batmobile Chase<br>11. Corynorhinus = Surveying the Ruins + Gordon Says Thanks <br>12. Lasiurus = Ra's al Ghul theme suite<br>Any chance you could do a what makes up the tracks for the BB album Hybrid?
Just want to give this score (and film) some major props. It seems like Ron Howard is one of those great directors who brings the best out of the composers he works with. It’s also interesting hearing just how much Lorne Balfe’s voice really comes through here.<br><br>Also, I wonder if it’s a coincidence just how much the OSCORP tune from TASM2 sounds like “Watergate Montage” (or did Marc Webb like a temp lol)Yeah, that theme starting at 1:35 is totally Black Rain! I love it though.So is nobody going to point out that Hans just casually slipped a theme from Black Rain into the middle of "Millennium Theme"...like, note for note? :pI hope there will be an album for Angel Has Fallen by 	David Buckley.PM me on YouTube for further questions.
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltJohn PowellJeff Rona
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The Thin Red Line (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 286'47
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  1. Nature Montage (1:27)
  2. Children Swimming (3:06)
  3. Soon My Lord (1:17)
  4. Witt With Melanesians (1:28)
  5. Island (1:46)
  6. Jisas Yu Holem Hand Blong Mi (1:23)
  7. Witt In Brig (3:26)
  8. Tall & Quintard (5:08)
  9. Staros Below Deck (1:58)
  10. March Inland (8:31)
  11. Staros Prays (2:23)
  12. The Grass (0:45)
  13. Tall Calls Staros (2:42)
  14. Keck's Death (4:47)
  15. Welsh Helps Tella (2:29)
  16. Staros Refuses Order (7:55)
  17. Bell's Patrol (3:58)
  18. Bell Goes Alone (3:31)
  19. Welsh & Witt Talk (3:49)
  20. Gaff's Party Leaves (3:17)
  21. Gaff's Party Returns (2:04)
  22. Attack On The Bivouac (11:03)
  23. Staros Is Relieved (2:08)
  24. Tall Does Nails (1:22)
  25. Airfield - Bell Flashback (5:57)
  26. Marty's Letter (3:42)
  27. Village Flashback (2:04)
  28. Witt Travels (5:48)
  29. Japanese Appear (1:30)
  30. Witt Chased (4:28)
  31. Witt Killed (2:15)
  32. Witt's Funeral (5:17)
  33. Cemetery (4:48)
  34. God Yu Tekkem Laef Blong Mi (1:57)
  35. River Suite (5:43)
  36. Grace Suite (5:23)
  37. Concerto For Beam Suite (6:09)
  38. Big Chord Suite (3:05)
  39. Sit Back & Relax Beam Suite (2:06)
  40. Solo Cello Suite (1:29)
  41. Cosmic Beam (5:45)
  42. Nature Montage (Alternate I) (1:34)
  43. Nature Montage (Alternate II) (1:16)
  44. Nature Montage (Alternate III) (2:54)
  45. Children Swimming (Alternate) (2:52)
  46. Island (Alternate I) (1:38)
  47. Island (Alternate II) (1:45)
  48. Island (Alternate III) (1:25)
  49. Witt In Brig (Alternate) (3:30)
  50. March Inland (Alternate) (8:21)
  51. Keck's Death (Alternate) (5:48)
  52. Staros Refuses Order (Alternate) (8:13)
  53. Bell Goes Alone (Alternate) (3:29)
  54. Welsh & Witt Talk (Alternate) (3:18)
  55. Gaff's Party Leaves (Alternate) (3:18)
  56. Gaff's Party Returns (Alternate) (2:05)
  57. Attack On The Bivouac (Alternate I) (9:17)
  58. Attack On The Bivouac (Alternate II) (7:43)
  59. Attack On The Bivouac (Alternate III) (10:59)
  60. Attack On The Bivouac (Alternate IV) (6:22)
  61. Staros Is Relieved (Alternate I) (3:06)
  62. Staros Is Relieved (Alternate II) (3:24)
  63. Tall Does Nails (Alternate) (1:30)
  64. Airfield - Bell Flashback (Alternate I) (5:59)
  65. Airfield - Bell Flashback (Alternate II) (7:17)
  66. Witt Travels (Alternate I) (6:43)
  67. Witt Travels (Alternate II) (2:42)
  68. Witt Travels (Alternate III) (6:09)
  69. Witt Killed (Alternate I) (1:53)
  70. Witt Killed (Alternate II) (1:43)
  71. Cemetery (Alternate I) (5:07)
  72. Cemetery (Alternate II) (5:16)
  73. Big Chord (Alternate) (1:33)
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Knight reply Replies: 7 || 2019-02-11 12:20:46
Holy shit! So many suites and alternates

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mpolonest123 2019-02-11 14:56:27
And not counting the War Drums/Wild Bowls/Taikos that the team recorded for, what I’m guessing, the editor to use. The war drum recording alone is 18 minutes!

On one hand I understand the frustration behind La-La-Land not actually releasing the complete score. On the other, so many of the alternates are so similar to the original I can understand from a repetition perspective. Either way still one of Zimmer’s masterpieces.


mpolonest123 2019-02-11 14:58:04
And Hybrid, why did they end up recording so much of the solo instruments? Was it just to give Terrence Malick a variety of options when assembling the film?


Anonymous2019-02-11 16:32:04
@mpolonest123
I am sure they do this all the time. This is probably the first time this stuff made their way to the outside world, hence the surprise from our end.


mpolonest123 2019-02-11 18:44:00
@anonymous
That is a good point!


StRuPiE2019-02-13 15:15:15
So basically, this is LLL's release, chronologically presented. I see a few differences, some cues are split up, a few new tracks were added and (almost) all the alternates/unused tracks from LLL and the sessions are included.

So I guess Complete in this set means, everything Zimmer wrote for the movie, which is fine of course. However, Beam and source cues are still not included.



HunterTech2019-02-14 03:11:51
Unless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?


StRuPiE2019-02-14 12:38:02
My definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.

The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.

In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.

Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.

Hari Haran reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-13 00:16:00
MOTHER OF GOD WE HIT THE JACKPOT

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2019-02-11 16:01:08
An historic day for HZ.com...Hybrid finally caved and made a page for the TTRL complete score. :P

Sherlock Holmes next? ;)

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