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I seriously don't understand why they didn't do two separate releases like most musicals do (La La Land comes to mind - perfect release). <br><br>A soundtrack album and a score album. No missing tracks, no fuss. And optional 2-CD set containing both.<br><br>Instead, they went with a soundtrack album with some of the score and another song album for whatever reason that is lol.The second half of the new "Elephant Graveyard" is basically note for note "I Was Just Trying to Be Brave" from the 1994 version as well, just with a few changes in orchestrationThis is only HGW's score, a good chunk of it was rejected.Wonder if it will take 20 years for an official complete score XD Not to mention any unofficial leaks (it took a long time to even get that for the original film). TBH, I'd prefer a proper release of any score any day of the week.<br><br>To answer the question above me: Mostly it's new material using the same themes from 1994, though if my interpretation the OST is correct, the hyenas and Timon and Pumbaa get new themes. The only true 'copies' of music from 1994 are Circle of Life and Remember, but even then, they are at least partially-new recordings.Do we know who wrote what?
Is it all material from 1994 or is it new 2019 score?I confirm I'm back from it, there's quite a bit of unreleased score.Well, now we have somebody who's seen it (and yes, it's out in some countries today), we know for certain.<br><br>I wouldn't expect anything official any time soon unless Zimmer wants to release a second CD.I absolutely love Kai’s theme in this score, there are so many cool variations that weren’t on the initial album. Hans and Co. really stepped up their game here. I don’t feel the temp as heavily here as KFP2 (which is still an amazing sequel score).Saw the film today, there is a LOT of music missing.
As stupid as this film is, you can tell Tom probably had fun working on it. The music is so over the top, it just goes nuts all the way through.This is one of those scores that I have really warmed up to since it’s release. The emotional stuff for Alita works really well in context and her “Hero Theme” gets some great development (the way it culminates in “Epilogue” is incredible). Also really love the “Motorball” stuff. <br><br>After seeing the film I think the only substantial music not on the album is “Motorball Plan” and “Alita’s Revenge Pt. 1”. The end credits piece I’m guessing is edited from the Full Motorball Suite.Hybrid, did Lorne actually do a lot of writing on this one or is he just being credited for the theme?We've had this argument before, almost any score can fit in a film. But what separates the mediocre composers from the best is the ability to make great music that works on its own, outside of the film. <br><br>Hans has had a lot of work lately that hasn't been doing that, and it's the reason people want him to work with orchestra again and produce is 2000s, late 90s type of style. Because those scores, for whatever problems they had, they felt distinct, memorable (for the most part), and easily could have been enjoyed away from the film.<br><br>Good scores have themes and ideas that both enhance the film, and enhance the listener's experience. Music like Dunkirk, Inferno, or Widows just feel like shallow and empty committee scores that the studio/directors didn't want too much thought put into. "Ah just write one main theme, and fill in the rest with electronics, Hans, it'll be fine!"Hahahahaha well I’m glad he got the credit then :D
I absolutely disagree with you saying Widows is a terrible score. It may not be great on album, but the music fits very well with the film.Actually, I think he only gets credits cause he is the guy... whistling ! :PElectric violinJust out of curiosity... what instrument is playing when Liv and Ben are running towards each other at the end? (Long Distance Goodbye/Landing? I love that instrument!And I’m guessing Neill Blomkamp contributed somehow to the “We Own This Sky” theme that pops up throughout...

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Dark Phoenix
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  1. Gap (8:07)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, David Fleming, Andy Page
  2. Dark (4:27)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming
  3. Frameshift (8:15)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  4. Amity (5:52)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro (Traditional)
  5. Intimate (10:14)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, David Fleming, Andy Page
  6. Negative (3:58)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  7. Deletion (4:51)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  8. Reckless (9:35)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro
  9. Insertion (7:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, David Fleming
  10. Coda (4:40)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming
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George reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-05 01:06:42
on the FSM forum, Hybrid actually said the 2nd CD is finished and mastered and should still be released. Cmon Hybrid you gotta keep us in the loop over here ;)

Weemo reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-04 19:18:14
I listened to the previews, and they do have an interstellar/inception/dunkirk vibe. Personally I love what I have heard so far from negative. Some of the vocal noises in the background sound a lot like Arrival by Johannson which is awesome.

... reply Replies: 1 || 2019-06-04 11:56:49
Based on the track lengths, could these cues be suites?

Medigo2019-06-04 13:46:39
I should hope not.
I'd accept tracks stitched together, but I still want music thats actually in the movie damnit.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2019-06-04 11:28:04
If you not know the alternate cover for Europe

http :// /35/51/ fbdeb11241744154.jpg

Der Profl2019-06-04 13:46:02
Looks a bit dissappointing.

George reply Replies: 10 || 2019-06-03 20:08:27
Looks like 10 tracks on the initial release with around a 67 minute runtime, and the shortest track being 3:58 long.

Hybrid I’m assuming there’s going to be a second release or a deluxe release with the suites added as bonus tracks?

Iamtommie442019-06-03 20:32:44
I saw it on iTunes as well.

Longest track is 10:14
And every tracktitle contains of just 1 word

George2019-06-03 20:34:31
I was able to listen to the previews! The first and the last tracks sounded the most compelling, however with such long tracks I’m sure all the good stuff wasn’t really in the previews anyway. At least I hope lol.

Jack Afrogarrix 2019-06-03 20:42:13
So 10 Tracks. That's Not bad but i sure that this score will be awsome the return of hans zimmer to the superhero music it like remember It's music of BvS, Man of steel, batman & The amazing spider man 2. But i agree that he pretty sure that he will release an deluxe edition of the score with Bonus tracks & suites from the film.

Iamtommie442019-06-03 20:49:52
How did you listen to the previews?

George2019-06-03 20:53:30
@iamtommie44 - i pre-ordered the album on iTunes and then it let me listen to them.

mpolonest123 2019-06-03 20:56:34
Going by samples...

Very reminiscent of Inferno with the use of electronics, sound design, and heavy emphasis on piano. The female vocals are a great touch, particularly in “Coda”. This has me super curious what kind of experimentation Zimmer did early on in the process.

badbu2019-06-03 21:00:45
@ George from which country? in Germany I can't pre order the album

George2019-06-03 21:01:40
@badbu - United States

badbu 2019-06-03 21:26:48
Thanks! Switching the country doesn‘t help :D

Ahmad2019-06-04 00:11:54
You don't have to pre-order to listen to the samples (I'm using iTunes on my computer).

"Gap" is absolutely amazing - it's the music from the Quicksilver/Space rescue mission clip.
Not gonna listen to any other samples. Want to experience the score with big "IMAX" speakers first.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 22 || 2019-05-31 11:21:32
I expect a digital release the same day as the movie opens, the usual stuff

nvictor2019-06-01 16:31:27
this coming week or the one after is my best guess. because Hans is doing a festival the week of the 24th and i am assuming they want to get there a few days before. man... they got us all speculating lol

Anonymous2019-06-01 17:13:23
It is now listed on Hans' artist page on iTunes stores everywhere. Though clicking on the album's title opened nothing at my end. Cover art is visible though. Looks EU's is different from the US one.

badbu2019-06-01 17:21:52
iTunes EU:
Release 07.06.2019
10 Tracks

Anonymous2019-06-01 17:48:09
That seems like way too little tracks for what was foretold.

George2019-06-01 17:49:02
@badbu hmmm interesting with only 10 tracks. That seems to contradict what Hybrid was saying.. unless there’s going to be a deluxe version as well?..

Ahmad2019-06-01 17:56:03
Either there is a deluxe version or the extra tracks are CD exclusive (doubt it tho).
Waiting for things to be officially revealed :)

George2019-06-01 18:02:06
@ahmad or maybe 10 is just the iTunes default track number for something they don’t have all the info on? If they really are working done to the last minute, maybe iTunes simply just knows it’s coming but doesn’t have a track number yet? Who knows. I’m totally speculating lol

Ahmad2019-06-01 18:20:16
Yup. I think things are just being processed and handled - no need to panic.
Hybrid is a reliable source so he definitely wouldn't give us false information.

It's time to update the cover art @Hybrid :D
It's stunning.

Ahmad2019-06-01 18:37:29
Yeah... there are two different covers.
US > EU cover!

Hybrid Soldier2019-06-01 19:01:36
Well the reliable source is, in fact, HZ, not me...

As for the cover, I can't seem to be able to retrieve it in good quality... :/ lol

MrZimmerFan2019-06-01 19:29:57
@Ahmad: the movie has a different title here in Europe. Not a surprise

manny manfred2019-06-01 19:39:02
you guys can you share with us iTunes URL ?

Ahmad 2019-06-01 19:43:54
@MrZimmerFan Yup I seemed to have forgot. I like the EU title but the US artwork and posters are much better.

@Hybrid well you're the messenger lol
Use iTunes artwork finder - the HQ version is 38MB :O

This is the link but it's useless for now. It says "partial album" and "not currently available in the US store"
https:// e-soundtrack /1466309349

Hybrid Soldier2019-06-01 19:56:48
Thanks dude, really helped. Appreciate ! :)

Ahmad2019-06-01 20:38:51
Anytime :)

Ro2019-06-02 06:40:01

Thank you for bringing that artwork finder service to our attention! This is going to make life so much easier for those of us who like to keep a fully tagged digital library!

nvictor2019-06-02 16:31:19
omg US music stores are being shunned. nothing. maybe we deserve it. i can't even see that cover art anywhere in itunes, spotify, amazon music, etc. lol. i hope we don't get a different release date. release the soundtrack people!

MrZimmerFan2019-06-02 18:35:14
@nvictor: I CAN see the cover art, even in US

HunterTech2019-06-03 00:48:59
I see it as well. If anything, I'm more interested to see what the international cover is, since I haven't been able to find that one anywhere, assuming it is correct that it is different.

nvictor2019-06-03 05:21:03
you guys must have some kind of subscription... i see nada. but anyways, happy that some people are seeing it. so impatient, has to be this week.

MrZimmerFan2019-06-03 10:14:16
@nvictor: Nop, only download the app, searching Hans Zimmer (any country) and there here is.

Ahmad2019-06-04 00:09:51
@Ro You're welcome :) Can't believe know one here used it before lol. Let's hope it stays functional with all the changes Apple are making.

gap reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-03 22:54:06
Gap has an appealing idea but the rest of the cue samples were kind of boring. I'm much more interested in the suites!

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 2 || 2019-06-03 21:26:47
I got The tracklist details for itunes store from The soundtrack that i now available to pre-order now in us and europe too and you guys are right the score has 10 tracks

1.Gap 8:07
2.Dark 4:27
3.Frameshift 8:15
4.Amity 5:52
5.Intimate 10:14
6.Negative 3:58
7.Deletion 4:51
8.Reckless 9:35
9.Insertion 7:56
10.Coda 4:40

badbu 2019-06-03 21:36:57
arrgggh i can‘t see it on iTunes :D

MrZimmerFan2019-06-03 21:57:54
Go to New Zealand store

Mephariel reply Replies: 1 || 2019-06-02 04:33:47
As someone who loves Blue Planet II, melodic Zimmer wasn't that long of ago for me. Before that, it was Hidden Figures, which I also loved.

George2019-06-02 06:11:40
But to be fair, BP2, and HF aren’t primarily Zimmer scores. Those are more his “main theme” contributions and then someone else composed the rest of the score.

Iamtommie44 reply Replies: 3 || 2019-06-01 23:24:49
On Filmmusicreporter it says digital release this friday 7th of June. With a CD version in the works!

Hans Zimmer2019-06-02 00:00:15
http: // fox-music-to-release-dark-phoenix-soundtrack/

Ahmad2019-06-02 00:42:28
So basically, they know as much as we do :P

George2019-06-02 01:38:10
Lol seriously. Seems the only one who knows everything is the man himself. Hybrid hadn’t even heard anything from it as of yesterday!

Glad everyone on here and the Facebook page is starting to feel some serious anticipation for this one. I knew ahead of time Dunkirk wouldn’t be amazing melodically, so I can honestly say I haven’t been this excited for an HZ score since Interstellar. That was FIVE years ago! It’s been way too long.

Jack Afrogarrix reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-01 19:54:51
I check the apple page, but it only available in canada. But i got a question, so what is the record label is going to be released the score?

badbu reply Replies: 4 || 2019-06-01 14:08:38 GqLVKyZe8Tk

the cues in the beginning are amazing!!!

manny manfred2019-06-01 15:39:47
first cue is like Dunkirk - Supermarine, Hans has started making very strange compositions for the last 4 years, most of them are the same.

Anonymous2019-06-01 15:55:02
agreed. I hear Dunkirk. with a dash of BvS

nvictor2019-06-01 16:29:11
i hear a rise which is common in many compositions. the only thing common with supermarine here is the pattern. but i could be wrong.

if anything, it would be nice to point out the exact parts that sound similar to dunkirk or BvS so we can all learn.

Ahmad2019-06-01 17:00:22
It’s so good! Yes, similar to Supermarine but definitely not the same.
I think it’s normal for composers to explore past ideas and expand them on other projects. It’s different enough.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2019-06-01 12:53:30
who is the orchestrator ?

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 22 || 2019-05-26 17:49:52
So, info about the OST. It's gonna be 2 CDs. First CD will be film score. Second will be more suites & ideas (as I told you Hans wrote a lot of music within the past 1.5 year). No release date yet, but you bet they are rushing to have it ready in 10 days...

Ahmad2019-05-26 17:58:15
Two CDs?! :O
Wish he had done this for another film that I won't name for the sake of not derailing this thread which begged for an extended release - oh well, Hans.

His music hyped me to see the movie and the Quicksilver clip sounds incredible. I can't wait.

mpolonest123 2019-05-26 18:42:37

So glad to see this get the MoS treatment, I’m sure that there will be plenty of great cues in film missing from the album (as usual with any Zimmer release) but having the suites and experimentations has me very excited!

MrZimmerFan2019-05-26 18:45:13
The label?

Between this and KOTM... OMG

iamtommie442019-05-26 18:45:49
This sounds like good news. I always love Suites!!!!

Let's hope is does come in 10 days!

nvictor2019-05-26 23:26:13
great news!

Mephariel2019-05-27 06:29:28
Great News! Can't wait to hear this.

badbu 2019-05-27 15:23:16
Nice!!! can‘t wait for it!

George2019-05-28 15:20:54
This is incredible news.. I’m just curious, when is the last time we got a double CD split between score and suites? I know MOS was that way, and you have that Pirates Collection disc 4 that has suites only... is there anything else?

(I’m probably missing something obvious lol)

mpolonest123 2019-05-28 15:40:57
Only thing I can think of is Interstellar with the Illuminated Star Edition.

Peter Parker2019-05-28 16:55:17

George2019-05-28 17:51:48
Okay so either way it’s been almost 5 years since a release like this. And all three of those scores are classics (including TASM2). Definitely excited for this release.

MrZimmerFan2019-05-29 21:43:03
Interstellar and MOS are MUCH better than TASM2. IMHO

mpolonest123 2019-05-30 03:45:37
So apparently the entire ending was reshot to move the final battle from space to Earth and keep things on a more “personal” level.

I wonder if Hans had scored the original version of the film and had to keep reworking it as they made the various changes (which definitely explains why he’s been working on it for so long)

Anonymous2019-05-30 03:49:34
either that or the whole thing had the james cameron treatment and it’s a hodgepodge of pre-existing material

Hybrid Soldier2019-05-30 13:28:45
As I said, Hans wrote hours & hours of music for that film. So, whatever version there was, he scored it...

George2019-05-30 18:28:07
Hybrid have you heard anything from the score? I miss the days where you were able to upload snippets of the music here on the site lol.

Hybrid Soldier2019-05-30 19:52:18
No I haven't ! And the score was in mastering process yesterday actually... But yes, I miss those days too... :/ :)

Ahmad2019-05-30 23:27:10
Damn! Do they always work on scores this close to release? (film release and OST). I miss the days when we got info, art and track lists early.

Hybrid Soldier2019-05-30 23:59:56
"Do they always work on scores this close to release?"

Definitely... not... lol

Anonymous2019-05-31 00:21:51
well if you’re Steve Jablonsky and Michael bay you do lol

nvictor2019-05-31 03:42:48
ah man... so much secrecy around this one lol

ThePhantasm2019-05-31 05:25:06
I still can’t believe there’s no info at all or so even snippet of songs like there usually is for Hans Zimmer scores or just scores in general

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