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Don't feel bad. You've just summed up why Hans and Lorne make a good team. Lorne is by all accounts a fantastic arranger and can bring out the best in others' ideas but I sometimes find his own compositions are a bit basic or leave me cold. Hans on the other hand always nails the theme and the concept but his scoring to picture to me feels clunky and a bit amateurish, especially when the music is dense. <br><br>Both super talented in their own ways. :-)Is there anyway o get sheet music for Into the pie machine for orchestra?Just saw Maleficent 2. There is a lot more Newton Howard in the movoe than there is on album.<br>I actually can't really understand why they didn't include the reprise of The Christening (the dinner scene) & the finale in the movie.<br><br>Zanelli's score is wonderful and I love it very much. But would have loved this on albumI can't imagine how someone likes Balfe's part over Richters. As you said Thomas, Richters work sounds more like suites, and Balfes work is written more to picture. BUT, it sounds to me also like a typical RCP-work with Hans. While Hans gives the direction with his suites and melodies, Balfe and co are adapting those suites to the specific scenes and writing some "new" stuff to fill any gap if there is any need of it, so they become additional composers in the credits.<br><br>And here, we have the same. Richter shows the direction and some cues are real intense and beautiful. Balfes parts sounding like a gap-filler. I don't want to talk bad about Balfe, he's a composing machine, but still i can't find anything remarkable on those parts and so i can't understand how Richters work hasn't been used but instead the more colorless cues from Balfes part :/<br><br>Again, don't feel insulted guys, it's just my sensationBalfeís part is the best I think.<br>It also seems written to picture instead of just long suites.<br>My understanding is the Balfe wrote half of the score but the album doesnít seem to represent that for some reason.
I really liked Richterís score over balfesI listened Max Richter for years. He is the kind of select or minority composer who does his solo works and soundtrack for movies not so famous. <br>His solo works are really really good with quintet and piano and voice. "on the nature of daylight" is definitely the best. <br>His sountrack is not good as his solo, to be honest. I think "the Leftovers" (2014-2017, HBO series), "Miss Slaone" (2016) and "Mary Queen of Scots" (2019) are cool.<br>If you need some peaceful music for meditation or good sleep, listen to his work.Richter did his recording in january and june 2019. The Director himself is a fan of Richter, so the deadline and director are not the reason.<br>It seemed that producers were not satisfied with Richter's music and they wanted something new, that's why they got Lorne. It turned out Lorne brought a very limited new...@Cercei<br>Hybrid can definitely answer that best. Richterís score is used (alongside Balfeís material) as well as some source pieces. If I remember correctly itís a mish-mash of the two.I do know that piece, itís very pretty. Iíll check out his other works, thanks for the recommendation. In terms of minimalism I really am into Brian Eno at the moment. His ďMusic For AirportsĒ and ďThe Lovely BonesĒ are excellent if you like more introspective music.
btw, you're saying Lorne recomposed and reworked the entire score. as i haven't seen the movie yet, did the producers end up with not using richters score for it at all and just used the score from Lorne?thanks for your information. but i actually don't understand why they have done that. i've heard now Lornes cues and Richters cues. all those cues from Lorne, they sound very similiar to that what Richter composed, but somehow with less melodies. And you really have to work hard to not use fewer melodies then Richter, as he's a minimalist at its best ^^ with that being said, i can't hear any groundbreaking differences from Lornes part, so what was their idea on hiring it and getting the same style of music, but in a more "light" version? :/i really admire Max Richters work, he isn't that new in this scene. his style is that repeating minimalism. maybe you've heard once the cue "on the nature of daylight" which was used a lot by many other movies. his last score which knocked me out was "Hostiles". such an emotional and intense score, you need to hear that, and probably see the movie as well (with Christian Bale). <br><br>Really surprised at this album, Iíve never really heard anything from Max Richter but I really like what he ended up writing for this score. It surprisingly flows well for a stand alone listen. Itís funny that the producers wanted a different approach, I think Richter nailed it.<br><br>Balfeís contribution is excellent as well, I particularly like that repeating chord progression (which is starting to become one of his trademarks considering how many times he has used it). Itís disappointing that they didnít include more of his contribution though, since he apparently rewrote the entire score.Lorne said in his Twitter, the first album for His Dark Materials come 3rd November, no date, for the moment, for the second album.
Was the producersi haven't understood the fact, that Lorne was involved in this. Can someone explain it for me? Was the director not satisfied with Richters music? Was the deadline too near? Or what was the reason why they have brought Lorne to this project?"The Wanderer", "Event Horizon", "You Have To Let Me Go" and "Tuesday (Voiceless)" = WOW WOW WOW!!!Zanelli is no James Newton Howard, but he did a fantastic job with writing a large scale fantasy score. Iíll even say that, while I think the first Maleficent is stronger overall, I personally like the action writing better here. Also 2 little things Iíve noticed;<br><br>1. The new theme here sounds fairly similar to the Father/Son tune from KFP3<br>2. 2:20-3:30 sounds like it may have been temped from the finale of Fantastic Beasts. (Or maybe Iím just crazy lol)Great work of Zanelli, if is not as good like JNH's Maleficent, is a tremendous work, with a terrific writing and orchestrations, even the most tender parts are terrific.
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  1. Race Day (2:36)
  2. Reckless (1:26)
  3. Family Photos (1:03)
  4. Ghost Town (1:22)
  5. Shattered (1:02)
  6. Crawl Space (2:41)
  7. Red Eyes (3:52)
  8. Tag Team (1:44)
  9. Wounded (1:04)
  10. Gas Station Attack (1:56)
  11. Trapped (1:05)
  12. Open Water (2:48)
  13. Years Lost (2:40)
  14. Battle Plan (3:23)
  15. Gator Nest (2:52)
  16. Dive (3:22)
  17. Drowning (1:46)
  18. Survival (1:18)
  19. Washed Out (1:24)
  20. Swim For It (1:35)
  21. Higher Ground (2:01)
  22. Confessions (1:00)
  23. Death Roll (1:46)
  24. Help Arrives (1:58)
  25. Haley's Theme (2:12)
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Boris reply Replies: 3 || 2019-08-28 14:51:14
So Balfe is now doing the new Brad Pitt movie Ad Astra?when does he sleep?

Interesting news because I thought they had Max Richter on it for ages ?


ThePhantasm2019-08-29 03:27:43
I love Balfe a lot but wtf this is too much. I was interested in listen to what Max would of done.


mpolonest123 2019-08-29 04:27:13
Yeah this is getting a bit crazy (no hate on Balfe though, manís making a living).

I think because of his ability to write as fast as he does, more producers tend to trust him with these projects and meeting the deadlines. Also having Lorne on a score usually means a pretty safe bet on the style of music.

I havenít been keeping up with all of his output as of late (because honestly, who can?) but it seems like you either get ďGood LorneĒ (MI6, Lego Batman, Geostorm) or ďBad LorneĒ (PR:U, Hurricane Heist). Honestly, I would much rather have him focus his attention on some bigger projects where he can write quality music, as opposed to spreading himself thin.


ThePhantasm2019-08-29 18:46:29
Yeah Hurricane heist was horrible, I'd be so excited to hear what he'd do with a super hero movie. It has taken forever

johny555 reply Replies: 4 || 2019-08-23 19:39:14
LOL, Lorne is co-composing "Ad Astra" with Max Richter, that guy is everywhere


Miralsice2019-08-23 21:11:35
Seriously? Why they make this decision? They want to sound like Interstellar or what?


johny5552019-08-23 22:22:29
I have no idea why, filmmusicreporter wrote about it...


Ahmad2019-08-24 02:41:53
GITS 2.0? I hope not.


Anonymous2019-08-24 20:55:52
Lorne has nothing to do with interstellar

iamtommie44 reply Replies: 8 || 2019-08-14 23:07:44
Soooo... Balfe is scoring the new HBO Series 'His Dark Materials'.

I'm glad that Lorne gets so much work, but I really wanted somebody else for this series.

Lorne is doing so much, that I'm afraid some things will turn out generic. Hope this doesn't happen. But we'll see (hear).

No very excited at the moment, but maybe this will change when I hear it.


Edmund Meinerts2019-08-15 10:32:18
Yeah it's an underwhelming choice for me. Balfe feels like the guy you get when you want "good enough", or when you need a score turned over in a really short time. Doesn't speak to much ambition on the showrunners' part when it comes to the music in this series. I'm sure it won't be bad, but I doubt it will be amazing.


Mikeal 2019-08-16 22:22:10
Typical Edmund response!!
Balfe doesnít always write the most amazing scores but when he does itís the best.if Balfe was only ďgood enoughĒ why do the world top directors want to work with him ????????
Also film music doesnít have to sound like itís from the 1960ís all the time.Balfe seems to choose projects that donít always require big melodies all the time.


Knight2019-08-16 22:49:56
Nice strawmanning there Mikeal


Steve2019-08-17 06:37:11
Edmund maybe listen and watch the show first before being negative about it?


Edmund Meinerts2019-08-17 09:23:53
Been a while since one of Balfe's paid (or unpaid?) shills had a go at me. I'm almost nostalgic. :p


Micheal2019-08-17 10:00:27
Poor Edmund thinks disagreeing is having a go !thought this page was about crawl and the music by Aruj and Steffen????they did a great job and the film was fun.


superultramegaa2019-08-17 18:41:18
Poor Micheal thinks Mikeal's response is simple disagreement when it contains sentences like;

"Also film music doesnít have to sound like itís from the 1960ís all the time." Implying that's the only music Edmund likes.

Also, poor Micheal thinks pages can't have any other discussion other than the movies on them! (Plus, considering the fact that Balfe does do projects in a short time span all the time, it's not exactly negative to point out that producers hire him for that task too much.)


Mephariel2019-08-17 19:48:06
This is seems like HBO wanting to get Djawadi and couldn't get him so they get the guy next door.

Honestly, they should have gone for Wallfisch or Harry Gregson-Williams (probably too busy with Mulan).

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-15 00:31:46
The movie is awesome, the score is great. Excellent work from Max and Stteffen

theGordo reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-18 22:46:15
Recently in China, a movie was released called Looking Up, and the soundtrack was released with Steffen Thum's score and main theme/additional music by Lorne Balfe.

Iamtommie44 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-12 23:37:40
It appears that this movie is pretty good.
It has a 88% on RT and I personally liked it a lot!


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Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-11 20:48:25
That track list sound like fun score to me. I can't wait to hear all tracks till midnight.

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