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Any word on where this can be found, or if it actually exists? H-Z (here) is the only place any of these tracks (let alone mention of a complete version of this score) can be found.Why you haven't update about David Buckley with Angel Has Fallen score yet?Yep, fun (if slight) score to a very fun movie. "Get it On" is a great action cue.It was also one of the first HG-W's scores I ever listened to (way back when!), so maybe it's just nostalgia talking. <br>But it's worth a listen at least.It's a shame no one talks about this score. <br><br>It's a great listen if you love heavily percussive music! <br><br>Not a highlight in HG-W's carreer by any means, but it's a fun ride, and has some neat unique sounding stuff courtesy of Heitor Pereira, as well as plenty of goold ol' MV style synth/orchestra pounding!
He returns to the hitman's bodyguard part 2I was honored, back in 2006, to meet both Nick Glennie-Smith and Harry Gregson-Williams.<br><br>I talked with both about The Rock, and here's what they told.<br><br>Nick & Hans worked very closely on most of their cues. That's why it's so hard to notice any difference between their own styles (and why they share most of the credits).<br>Harry worked separately from Nick & Hans. He remembered working on the San Francisco Chase (though we know Don Harper helped at some point in the process), and on "a lot of the action material from the second half of the movie, once the heroes reach Alcatraz".<br>The credits here tend to prove they were right.<br><br>All the Opening Titles / SEAL Attack is a bit complicated. Hans might have written the theme, but it also might be arranged for pictures by Nick Glennie-Smith (plus there's a lot more going on in these tracks than the man theme alone). So, well, I guess the final result still is a collaborative effort.A brilliant score, no matter what some people might say. Some of the darkest and most beautiful themes by Hans Zimmer were born here, as well as a lot of very exciting and propulsive electronic techniques. <br>Heck, I even like the movie! The score fits like a glove.<br>It helps that I'm a huge Tony Scott fan though.<br><br>Zimmer would even 'steal' from this score quite a bit in some of his later films. The 'Wayne Manor Suite' from TDKR comes to mind, as well as one of the Blade Runner 2049 themes being strangely similar to The Fan's 'Opening Titles' theme, and I'm sure there are other examples.<br><br>I would love for a complete version to be officially released sometime. It's very unlikely, but one can dream...Listen to the first demo at NGS demos album of "The Rock". The opening and SEAL Attack have a few notes from original NGS theme. That's why NGS is credited to it.I remember hearing something about NGS not wanting his name in the opening credits since it was a Hans cue playing. So yeah. I think the opening is really just Zimmer and the NGS credit is a formality since it was supposed to be Nick’s score.
I'm sorry, disregard EVERYTHING I just wrote...The credit on "SEAL Attack" is HZ/NGS/Stern, not HZ/HGW/Stern. Not sure how I missed that. *facepalm*OK, so a thought...<br><br>"Opening" and "SEAL Attack" are functionally identical; Hybrid says that Hans originally wrote it for the latter scene and it was then placed over the main titles of the film. However, the former is credited to Hans and NGS, the latter to Hans, HGW and Steven Stern. Presumably, since HGW/Stern aren't credited on "Opening", their contribution to "SEAL Attack" is limited to that first minute, which does indeed have a lot of HGW-ish percussion work to my ears. That leaves the rest of "SEAL Attack" as Hans' work alone, which begs the question: why the heck is NGS credited for "Opening", then, since it's basically identical? Screw it, I'm labeling that a solo Hans cue. Always bugged me that there wasn't at least one on this score. :pHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comHi dear hans , i'm farzin a film composer from iran , i composed many films & tv series in my country also winning some awards and some of them are in IMDB , but music comunity is verry small here and i think i'm wasting my time & music here , its pleasure to be your assistant or working with you or anything you think i can be useful (sorry my english language is not good). please please just listen to one track of my music (i will send some for you if you reply me with email) and if it was qualified email me and let me know , also i have to travel to california this December cause my family lives there. i'm always thankful hans for your help & attention. Email : farzingharahgozloo@yahoo.comThat's the 'Album Version' of Time To Suit Up
I'm "missing" three of the tracks for the complete score - CA Suite, WS Suite, and the alternate version of Time to Suit Up. <br><br>It looks like the CA and WS suites are pretty much the same ones on the official release as the lengths match up perfectly, but where can I find the alternate of Suit Up?Cheers mateI agree. Great score. This is "Hans Zimmer Dark Minimalism" done absolutely right. And the Oscorp stuff has to be temp. It goes up and down in just the right places.Forgot Macrotus, so the numbering messed up on 5-8 lol... Macrotus = Father to the Rescue + Hide in the Dark + Courthouse Pt. 1... Also, Myotis actually = Initiation into the League + Temple Fight. <br><br>If you have the End Credits too, that's a Batman Arrives/Backup mashup + Training + Father to the Rescue + Bruce Left for Dead + Batman Theme.<br>Gotcha covered. <br><br>1. Vespertilio = Batman Titles + The Long Walk<br>2. Eptesicus = Bruce Goes Home + Training <br>3. Myotis = Temple Fight<br>4. Barbastella = Mugging Pt. 2 + Bat Cave <br>6. Artibeus = Dockyard Ambush Pt. 1 + Meeting Ducard<br>7. Tadarida = Rachel in the Bat Cave + Fight in Crane's Lab Pt. 1 + Batman on Fire + Microwave Stolen<br>8. Antrozus = Facing the League + Gordon at Home <br>9. Nycteris = Prototypes + Why Bats? + Finders Keepers Pt. 1<br>10. Molossus = Batmobile Chase<br>11. Corynorhinus = Surveying the Ruins + Gordon Says Thanks <br>12. Lasiurus = Ra's al Ghul theme suite<br>
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Hans ZimmerSteve MazzaroDavid FlemingAndy Page
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Xperiments From Dark Phoenix
Label: Remote Control Productions, Inc. (Digital Download Only)
Length: 78'43
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  1. X-HZT (17:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. X-X (5:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  3. X-LGDP (8:07)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  4. X-SI (6:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  5. X-HD (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Andy Page
  6. X-MP (3:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Andy Page (Henry Purcell)
  7. X-MT (5:03)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  8. X-TX (8:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  9. X-MDP (9:06)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  10. X-F (3:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page (Henry Purcell)
  11. X-CH (4:58)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  12. X-SS (2:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, David Fleming, Andy Page
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Mephariel reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-17 19:51:44
I am still surprised that "X-SS" isn't inserted into "Gap." That is easily the best iteration of the main theme.

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-05 19:23:18
My goodness, 1:30-2:35 in "X-MT" is quality. Reminds me of The Rock.


fabian2019-08-05 20:46:36
True.. love that part too (sounds also like some of Hans Call of Duty tracks)! This rythm style and theme could be from the 90s, which sadly never will really re-appear. At least those classic Media Ventures drums appeared in the Lion King :)
They should really dig out some of those old synth samples.

John G reply Replies: 5 || 2019-08-01 19:54:01
So in most of the tracks, you can hear many people (most likely the cast and crew) speaking. I think I heard Hans himself speak in one of those weird cuts of their conversations...


Hybrid Soldier2019-08-01 20:20:27
Yeah Andy Page produced & edited that album, apparently he had a lot of fun remixing all those various voices & solo recordings... lol


badbu2019-08-01 20:30:02
@hybrid haha sounds nice :D what u think about that score? :-)


Mcbain2019-08-03 07:39:12
Random question, Hybrid, do you know if Andy Page still produces solo electronic music?
(Xperiments is a stunning release btw, I've enjoyed it much more than the official soundtrack)


Hybrid Soldier2019-08-03 10:03:15
Honestly no idea.

Andy's very nice, Hans keeps him busy (another guy, after JXL, Hans stole to HGW ! :P).


Mcbain2019-08-05 19:32:18
Haha, yeah and I suppose Harry got to meet Andy through Hybrid, the electronic band. I look forward to him being a more prominent part of Hans's upcoming projects. He's a very talented musician and producer.

nvictor reply Replies: 7 || 2019-08-04 22:38:17
you know what makes me happy most? to see all these people who criticized the original release be all over the experimental release for some reason...

since that's what it takes, can we start a petition to release all the unheard music from dunkirk too? :) we really can't be few in numbers who love that soundtrack!

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Please enter number: 1760 


Der Profl2019-08-05 00:16:21
Oh, yeah, I love the Dunkirk soundtrack. It's such a cool suspensful atmosphere. Very inspiring if I want to write on my mystery novel.

Do I remember correctly that Hans wrote some melodic pieces for Dunkirk in the first place, before Nolan was like, no, I want like atmospheric sounds with the ticking of my watch in it? Or is it like a dream I had? I don't know. But that would be pretty neat to hear.

I would like to hear so many experimental second soundtracks for so many films Hans worked on. And if he doesn't want to do this for some older projects, he should probably do it for some of his upcoming work like Dune or Wonder Woman 2. It would be pretty neat to hear some wild and experimantel remixes on the themes he will write for these movies which didn't make it into the movie. Or like experiment with other genres like doing some really fancy EDM Club Soundtrack as a second release for like Dune to which we all can dance to (if we want). Or like make a really sad and quiet ambient piece out of the Wonder Woman theme. The possibilities are endless and I am so down for it.


Ahmad2019-08-05 01:15:34
Right? If Hans had released Xperiments (a suite album) instead of the OST, people would be crying for the film versions :D
It's a miracle we got both.

And I totally agree about Dunkirk. That score deserves an extended release with film versions but it seems like it'll never happen. And according to interviews and album notes, Hans always started a long tempo map that consisted of ticking, heartbeats, footsteps sounds, etc...

Someone also asked him about the "orchestral score" that was scrapped and as I understand it was about one character in particular and that material kind of got used somehow in the score anyway but was used differently.


Mike2019-08-05 04:06:20
"Someone asked him..." Hi. That was me. lol. I didn't know if I'd get an answer, but I was grateful he answered the question. He said it was basically the same score. So I don't think we're missing out too much.


Der Profl2019-08-05 04:28:24
Oh, now I'm curious about which character in particular had to get an orchestral theme. And wait, what is the orchestral theme now? Is it slow-mo-Nimrod? The Home Theme? Now I want a second suite album for Dunkirk.


Der Profl2019-08-05 04:30:33
Wait. I just realised, that the already existing Dunkirk soundtrack is like a suite album...

Nevertheless I want a second album. Dunkirk was sooo good.


Mike2019-08-05 06:07:52
I asked 2 questions, one about Nimrod in that version of the score and one about the score itself. And he said Nimrod was always in there. So I don't think the "more orchestral" stuff was Nimrod. He didn't say which character, but based on the movie and which character would make sense with a more traditional sound, I imagine it might have been the civilian boat group. Mark Rylance's character, one of the boys, or the Cillian Murphy soldier. He just said "one of the characters," so I don't think it was the main protagonist.


Ahmad2019-08-05 13:48:46
Oh, hi Mike :D I personally have so many questions about Dunkirk so I'm glad you asked Hans about the score and I'm glad he answered.

If I had to guess, I'd say it might be about George. That theme at the end of "Regimental Brothers" is used with brass at the beginning of his arc then with strings in one scene. Another strings theme plays in another moment.




Nicklas reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-05 11:03:32
I really like the tracks X-X, X-CH, and X-SS.

But overalt I'm a little disappointed, because, like many in here, I was hoping for a bigger and more epic variation of Hans new Magneto theme, which is very awesome, but underplayed in the film and the OST. Hans could easily do a variation of that piece with his back tied :)

But overall, that we actually got them to release it, with the help of the petition is amazing, and I agree that Hans should do a similar release next year, for both Top Gun 2, Wonder Woman and Dune...

Imagine a 2 cd with big themes from these films - that would make all us fans explode from happiness! :)

HunterTech reply Replies: 3 || 2019-08-04 02:10:29
I was always curious in this release, but I didn't think it would enamour me this much. The final score I do like, even if it isn't close to my favorites of the X-Men series, but it could've stood to be more unique. With this, I was impressed by just how varied and fun it is. "X-HZT" might just be my favorite Zimmer suite currently. I almost want Zimmer to do more "bad films," since projects like this, M:I-2, and TASM2 are what I liked most of Zimmer. Just that feeling of him doing whatever he feels like and absolutely owning it. Am interested to see where he goes from here.

Also, to the 3 other people who heard Ottman's Apocalypse, did anyone feel the start of "X-LGDP" sounded a bit like the villain material from that? It's definitely coincidental, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.


nvictor2019-08-04 05:28:06
you know, i have never listened to the amazing spiderman soundtrack. i might just get it based on what people say about it.

but i have heard that freedom to compose you talk about in scores like the sherlock holmes, lone ranger, madgascar, and to some extend the pirates series. i have come to realize that it has to do with the gypsy/carefree vibe from those movies. and that some movies don't give you that freedom to explore (or maybe really it's some directors that don't...). we are truly blessed with this release.

sorry never heard Ottman's Apocalypse but will check it out.


LS100 Studios2019-08-04 14:52:14
@Hunter Totally agree on that Apocalypse opening, those vocals sounded straight out of Ottman's score. A few minor differences but it's really similar, definitely coincidental like you said.


mpolonest123 2019-08-04 19:50:22
My first listen I really liked this album a lot, after several listens I’m confident when I say this is probably my favorite Zimmer release in the past few years. It’s such an amazing blend of 90’s Zimmer power anthems and guitar solos with current Zimmer sound design and experimentation. I can definitely see why he was proud of this music, it’s almost a culmination of different portions of his career.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 23 || 2019-08-01 20:43:49
BTW I have the explanation for one of the titles, the cuesheet gave it away since it's used in the credits :

X-SS => Space Scene

(in the cuesheet the cue is called End Credit 1 - Space Scene)

Let's try to guess the rest... :P


Bob2019-08-01 20:53:15
The game became harder since Batman Begins lol


BC2019-08-01 20:54:54
Still waiting to hear it, so I'm not sure, but is the Space Scene track from the beginning of the movie, or was it written for the original finale that was supposed to take place in space?


Hybrid Soldier2019-08-01 21:07:11
Beginning one actually ! Before Hans rewrote it ! :)


BC2019-08-01 21:12:27
@Hybrid Soldier

Yaaaassss!! Can't wait to get off of work and give this a listen!


Ahmad2019-08-01 21:22:56
Cuesheet...

I'm waiting for it to be out officially for me so I can listen to it in full.


badbu2019-08-01 21:30:20
yes, me too!
btw, is the only way to get this score via amazon?
or can we get it via itunes, spotify?


mpolonest123 2019-08-01 22:19:36
6. X-MP definitely is related to Purcell and the descending “Dido’s Lament” tune.
4. X-SI is the villain theme, not sure of the initials though.
5. X-HD (Hans Dancing?) sounds like a techno dance track to me lol


mpolonest123 2019-08-01 22:23:24
This has got to be the weirdest Hans album I think I’ve heard in a long time, it’s like he approached his usual “sketchbook” technique in the form of a crazy jam session/live concert.

And I’m loving every second of it. Also props to Andy Page for how he mixed this, the distorted studio sounds add to the surrealness


Mike2019-08-01 22:57:48
Where can we get this album? iTunes?


Der Profl2019-08-01 23:56:16
@mpolonest123 Maybe SI stands for space invader if it's the villain theme. I haven't seen the movie, but I thought Jessica Chestain is an alien like creature, so space invader would make sense.


Ahmad2019-08-02 02:42:45
Man, where to begin? This album is a wonderful expansion to the OST. To hear some of Hans' original ideas without the constraints of picture cuts and edits is always exciting. I'm so grateful this got released.


BC2019-08-02 03:21:11
mpolonest123

I'm thinking that HD is the template that the action pieces of "Intimate" and "Reckless" were built off of. The tempo is right for Intimate, and once you slot in Magneto's theme and the action version of the X-theme it fits pretty well.

For Reckless, around the 2:30 mark in HD lines up pretty well with the middle portion of the track. Spent way too much time analyzing it, but it bothered me that HD was the only track that I couldn't identify compared to the OST.


mpolonest123 2019-08-02 04:11:46
@Der
That would definitely make sense, I like Space Invaders as a cue title.

@BC
Good catch! It’s pretty much the rhythmic action without the thematic material. Kinda like MOS had “This is Madness” as an action demo.

Also, would love to state how awesome Magneto’s Theme and MDP are


nvictor2019-08-02 04:57:42
one more hour to wait lol all i can do is read these comments here...


Mike2019-08-02 06:33:29
I'm not gonna lie...I think I like the suites and ideas heard here even more than the score as written for the film. The ideas sound awesome when just played as music, without picture constraints. I was expecting this to be the less exciting little sibling of the main album, but it really stands on its own and is worth experiencing on its own.


BC2019-08-02 06:49:50
@mpolonest123

Thanks! It was driving me insane, so I had to figure it out.

Ugh, Magneto's theme, MDP, TX, X-X. There's so much goodness here. I was kinda thinking I'd have a favorite, but every track has something special in it and it's making it impossible to choose.

And Magneto's theme is so good I'm actually frustrated that he wasn't in the movie more so that more of it could have actually been used. It's almost a complete waste of an amazing 5 minute suite.

@Mike

I'm glad we/Hans fought to get it released. I was totally just expecting something along the lines of the second disks for BvS or MoS, and instead we got something that's honestly way better than the finished product. I love the xperimental versions of the Phoenix theme the most. With them not being polished, they feel more raw and aggressive.


mpolonest123 2019-08-02 07:06:30
^^ Have to agree. I still think the finished score is great, but this fleshes out each idea so well without having to be constrained to the film edit. And this is probably Hans at his most experimental.

As for Magneto’s theme, I fully agree with you BC. It’s so underused in the film. Interestingly enough, the suite version has an almost “punk western” vibe to it, something which doesn’t come across in the film.


Mike2019-08-02 07:35:55
X-HZT is a fascinating piece....it does things with vocals that I've never really heard in a score before. Is that the thing Hans had "always wanted to try" on this movie? Also, the piano motif around 11:30 is great. Reminiscent of MOS and Interstellar.

I also love when the really low piano notes come in during "X-X" (at 1:43). Adds real depth to the theme. The mix of the piano with the larger ensemble was really well done for this score.


BC2019-08-02 08:34:48
@

Totally. Experimental Hans is something way different than I would have thought, and I hope we get more in the future. I'd love to see something like this for WW84 next year, or for Dune.

It's amazing to be able to be able to compare and contrast the bones of the score to the finished product too, as well as how they were finished and arranged. "Dark" is pretty much just a polished, abbreviated version of X-LGDP, while a track like "Intimate" has pieces from MT, SI, HD and X-X to make the final track.

And Magneto's theme does have kind of a lone gunslinger vibe to it, now that you mention it. It seems like it was lost or toned down during the final phases of revision.


@Mike

I'm a sucker for great choir arrangements/vocals and it's the thing I've loved most about this score, as well as the way the guitar is used throughout. I think that might be what he was talking about when he was wanting to try something. The opening vocals of X-HZT gives me chills everytime I hear it.

With the piano, I love how it's used in X-XT starting at about 6:40 on out. Combined with the slow, melancholy guitar riffs and the light vocal arrangement, it's utterly beautiful.


Anonymous2019-08-02 15:44:59
Is that true about the original version music was so different of about movie before the reshoots


nvictor2019-08-03 01:37:00
i am so grateful for this release. it reinforces my opinion that we should appreciate scores as work of art in their own right. we should give more credits to artists and anyone who contributes to big projects like this movie.

anyways...

people, here, misled me. they told me Henry Purcell this and that. well Henry Purcell sounded only twice in the experimental tracks. that clearly was not the inspiration for the "whole" score. it seems to be a solution that came later.

the novelty and main idea is in my opinion the "voice instrument". that's the element that pushed all the boundaries. i heard a similar sound in music that used native american chants. it sounded so familiar to me on the original score. this release shows that the effect was re-discovered through experimentation. that blew me away! another thing about the first track is that at some point it has that new-age, enigma, enya-like vibe. that made me feel very nostalgic...

finally, we don't often recognize people who work with Hans. the cello that played in track 1 was so good i can't help but think Tina played it. but it sounded like "the last samurai" at moments. and i am not sure she worked on that score so i could be wrong. but she deserves kudos anyways. and Andy Page too for the awesome recording and mixing. oh and Steve Mazzaro who somehow manages to appear on all my favorite HZ scores :) and all those people who deserve more appreciation.

thanks everybody :)


Nahuel2019-08-03 02:47:38
Take into account that this might be from the original complete cut of the movie, not the one released on theaters with missing scenes and forced reshoots.


HunterTech2019-08-04 01:56:45
It's very possible these were used as the base for earlier versions of the score, but all signs point to every track besides X-SS being purely suites currently.

For being "forced," Kingberg is quite lucky that he still got to supervise and be onboard for the reshoots. It's unfortunate the same couldn't be said for Snyder.....

Dark Knight reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-03 01:12:39
Does that awesome short cue of magneto that appeared at the end of Intimate appear in any of these tracks except X-MT?

LS100 Studios reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-02 19:08:58
This is an awesome score, so glad it was released. Really brings out the themes from the score and presents more of what Hans imagined. Many of these tracks are partly based off existing ones, but they all bring something new to the table - perhaps with the exception of X-F which is basically "Amity" again.

Here's a quick analysis of the tracks, feel free to add anything I missed.

1. X-HZT - An experimental composer sketch, brings in some elements of the Phoenix theme at times. Love those unsettling chants and yells, some really crazy stuff there.

2. X-X - This is the kind of track I was hoping for with this score - a more gentle suite for the new X-Men theme. Brings in some elements from "Gap".

3. X-LGDP - A suite for the Dark Phoenix theme, extends parts of the track "Dark".

4. X-SI - A suite for the D'Bari, extends parts of the track "Negative".

5. X-HD - A suite for the techno action cues that pop up in tracks like "Intimate" and "Reckless".

6. X-MP - A suite for the ending cue of "Reckless", seems like those thirty seconds were originally a whole track in itself.

7. X-MT - A suite for Magneto's theme, another thing I anticipated with this score. Brings in some new cues while focusing on the themes used in the original score.

8. X-TX - Another suite for the new X-Men theme, this one is much more dreary compared to "X-X". Similarly, it brings in some elements from "Gap".

9. X-MDP - Another suite for the Phoenix. Brings in some elements from "Dark".

10. X-F - A shortened version of "Amity", I think the instrumentation is slightly different but it's much of the same.

11. X-CH - A reworked version of "Coda".

12. X-SS - The end credits for the film, rendition of the new X-Men theme.

Hari Haran reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-02 16:05:12
This is the best extended release/second album for a score in goodness knows how long.

An absolute experience.

That opening track's Carnatic-esque vocals and contrapuntalizations are sublime. This is the kind of creativity that makes Hans an unparalleled force.


isildur2019-08-02 18:30:19
Came to post just this. The way Hans used Carnatic vocals with his absolute craziness is effing epic. I don't think I have enjoyed this much listening to a piece of music in a long time.

Johann's ghost reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-02 14:31:50
Hey guys,

Those vocals you've never heard before? Have a listen to Johannson's Arrival, co-incidentally from the director of Dune.


Hybrid Soldier2019-08-02 14:44:44
Who said they've never heard that before ?

BC reply Replies: 5 || 2019-08-01 23:45:28
Anyone have any personal favorites yet?


Der Profl2019-08-01 23:54:24
I'm just listening and it switched to X-X right now. But X-HZT was pretty nice and a little bit weird. The right amount of weird for me. And X-X starts like my favorite song Gap from the original soundtrack. So it will be one of my favorites as well.


Der Profl2019-08-02 00:28:55
Update: I love all songs. Every single one of them until X-MT. But I guess I will love the last ones as well.


Mike2019-08-02 02:31:16
To be honest, I'm impressed by all of them.


Der Profl2019-08-02 11:17:44
Mike, I have to say that I am as well. That album is so great and well made. I like every one of the tracks. But my absolute favorites would be X-HZT, X-X and X-MT, if I have to choose some.


Der Profl2019-08-02 11:19:30
EDIT: I mean X-MP instead of X-MT. But X-MT is also great.

Mpolonest123 reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-02 07:06:00
^^ Have to agree. I still think the finished score is great, but this fleshes out each idea so well without having to be constrained to the film edit. And this is probably Hans at his most experimental.

As for Magneto’s theme, I fully agree with you BC. It’s so underused in the film. Interestingly enough, the suite version has an almost “punk western” vibe to it, something which doesn’t come across in the film.

Mike reply Replies: 1 || 2019-08-01 23:06:39
For the record, this album seals the deal for me. Dark Phoenix is my favorite Zimmer score since Interstellar.


BC2019-08-01 23:44:03
Working my way through my second listen now, and I wholeheartedly agree. This entire score - the xperiments and the original score - has been way more amazing than I could have even hoped. The xperimental variations and extended themes are awesome, and it's going to be a lot of fun to compare/contrast with the finished product.

Easily in my top 5 Hans scores, and it's a little early to call it, but it'll probably be my score of the year. I also kinda wish that this would have been the score for the movie. Would have been WILD.

badbu reply Replies: 3 || 2019-08-01 18:59:53
X-SS -> END CREDITS!!!!!!!!


badbu2019-08-01 19:11:42
X - X -> X-Men Theme (like Gap)

X - LGDP -> Dark Phoenix Theme

X - MT -> Magneto Theme

X - TX -> X-Men Theme

X - CH -> Variation of Coda

X - SS -> A short cut from the END-CREDITS


Anonymous2019-08-01 19:29:01
Thank you for explaining those tracks with words, I really appreciate that!


badbu2019-08-01 19:57:53
:-)

Mortifer V. reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-01 19:30:40
This is a superb release. Really glad we got it!

John G reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-01 18:57:08
IT'S OUT EARLY AND I'M SCREAMING

Ro reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-01 18:35:34
Excellent album. I can see now why Hans Zimmer pushed to have this material released. I doubt I'll be revisiting the score now that I've heard this stuff.

I only wish those sound effects weren't included at the end of each track. Kind of kills the mood.

bob reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-01 17:46:21
Track #2 tho

Morgan Joylighter reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-01 16:47:22
Listening now...after five minutes my first thought it, wow this is definitely EXPERIMENTAL. Awesome but bizarre and surprising.


Soldierofrome2019-08-01 17:11:31
where did you listen?


Ds2019-08-01 17:36:37
It is already past midnight in Australia!

John G reply Replies: 12 || 2019-07-26 10:09:20
WE DID IT!!!!!!


Nahuel2019-07-30 03:42:53
A shame how disney ruined this movie with reshoots, missing scenes and poor marketing.


HunterTech2019-07-30 03:55:29
Disney had nothing to do with how the film turned out, since all the crucial choices were made prior to them having full control. The most they did afterwards was give it a stronger marketing boost near release, which only ended up working so well.


HunterTech2019-07-30 03:59:05
*ended up not doing much to help its chances to succeed.


MrZimmerFan2019-07-30 11:41:53
Disney complete the purchase of Fox one month before the movie release, and various executives and workers of Fox said the movie was 'sabotage' in a marketing level by Disney.


HunterTech2019-07-30 22:21:37
I wouldn't call making a video celebrating the series history with all the actors who were on board with the franchise 'sabotage' in any manner. Plus some of the posters I'd say were actually better than several of the more recent ones from the MCU. But yeah, let's keep believing Disney didn't want to make a profit out of this somehow. :P


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-30 22:27:40
Hunter, please, just don't...

Disney was embarassed to "receive" that movie in the Fox deal, they wanted it dead as fast as possible.

They made the production change the entire ending & pushed back the film not to overshadow Captain Marvel (which has the same ending)...


BC2019-07-31 00:18:11
@Hybrid Soldier

Wow...and here I thought Fox were the ones that demanded all of the changes after terrible screen testing. But now that I think about it, it does make sense that Disney demanded the changes, and that they didn't want the movie. Releasing it during summer season, especially after Endgame did the expected gangbusters was commercial suicide.

It might have faired better with the February release date, as it's a quieter month, but word is James Cameron demanded that it be pushed so that his little Battle Angel project wouldn't have any competition...and that turned out so well.


mpolonest123 2019-07-31 00:34:01
The irony is, Dark Phoenix is a stronger film than Captain Marvel. Granted, it’s a heavily flawed film (rushed third-act, awful villains, etc.) but I still would easily place it over that mess.

It definitely makes sense that Disney tried to sabotage the project, which seriously makes me wonder if the original version was a much stronger film. From what has been said it seems like some of the problems can be attributed to the reshoots. Reminds me a bit of Justice League...


HunterTech2019-07-31 01:00:01
I'm sorry, but it just doesn't line up with any of the information we've gotten prior and since release. Even if they wanted to, Disney couldn't do anything with the film until it came close to release. The re-shoots were decided upon before there was even any actual bidding for Fox, and only happened once the actors had enough time to do any additional filming. This choice was made in March 2018, while the merger was approved in July 2018, and not actually being in effect til a full year later. How are you going to dispute any of that?

I know everyone has a hate boner for Disney these days, but at least know when to criticize them for things they've actually done, as opposed to because you happened to not like some of their more recent efforts.

That being said: I'd be happy to see a Kinberg cut of DP, since while heavily flawed, I did get the feeling that they at least tried to make something with intrigue. Especially since this is an iteration I still have fondness for, so I'd like to see how it originally was.


MrZimmerFan2019-07-31 18:42:08
@HunterTech: The change ending was Disney's idea and the poor marketing campaing was to sink by any means the movie, obviously, for a reboot by Disney.

If the movie success, Disney will have a great problem.


BC2019-07-31 22:42:51
@HunterTech

The deal wasn't official until recently, but for all intents and purposes both companies were working like it was. A lot of people were released from their jobs, and Fox cancelled a lot of in development projects, while Disney decided to let them wrap up production on the movies they were working on.

At least that's what I've gathered from following the whole thing. The waiting period took so long and there was so much information it's very possible that I misremembered/am wrong.

@mpolonest123

I completely agree, and it's a shame. The movie had all of the pieces needed to be a great film, it just needed some reshoots to add a few sequences and strengthen what was there. I went into the movie expecting it to be a crapshoot and ended up really liking it and seeing it 3 times. It's far from perfect, but it's definitely not worse than The Last Stand's stab at adapting the material. Or X-Men Origins: Wolverine for that matter.


badbu2019-08-01 10:13:42
tomorrow!!! :-) <3

M-N reply Replies: 1 || 2019-07-31 13:25:56
Hey, since Hans managed to get this released under RCP, maybe Tom Holkenborg can do something similar with his Justice League material. I know, it's probably a pipe dream, and I imagine Tom just wants to move on from all that, but a man can dream.


mpolonest123 2019-07-31 15:00:15
I’m pretty sure the music for Justice League is owned by Warner Bros. And I highly doubt they are going to put anything out.

I wouldn’t be surprised if waaaayyyy down the road we get a Snyder cut in some form or another, with Tom’s music attached.

Ro reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-28 11:52:38
If I understood things correctly, this wasn't the first time a Hans Zimmer scored project ended up with a trunk-load of unused materials. Yet this is seemingly the first time the composer himself pushed for these unused materials to be released for all to hear. What was the motivation here?


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-28 12:40:03
Because, for once, he was proud of all that work ? ;)


finn2019-07-30 12:12:03
hey hybrid could u talk abit more about that, that seems sad, that he isnt proud.

which movies did was he proud and not proud working on etc. would love to know more about hat

Jordan reply Replies: 5 || 2019-07-25 23:38:46
Still hoping for a 2CDs release :(


Leo 2019-07-28 08:07:56
This is the second CD bruh


Jordan2019-07-28 18:17:40
I mean "CD", not digital !


MrZimmerFan2019-07-28 18:19:11
That's not gonna happen

Disney owns Fox and with his mentality...


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-28 20:30:24
The problem is :

1 - Fox never released anything physically.
2 - They could have deals with other speciality labels, but after Disney swallowed them, old deals (LLL etc.) are gone.
3 - Technically, the ones that could takeover releasing it physically are Hollywood Records (Disney), but are apparently not staffed to add Fox catalogue to "to-do releases" before many months.

So, it could happen, but not right away... And will there still be any interest in a few months ? I don't think so. But who knows...


nvictor2019-07-28 21:59:05
OMG! yes yes yaass! so happy for this release :) :) i was on a trip when the news came out. amazing that big corporations have started listening to people. internet is amazing, isn't it? sad there is probably so much music sitting out there in the dark corners of many studios that no one will ever hear...

anyways, now we just wait a few days for this awesome release.

LS100 Studios reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 17:35:35
Great to see this happening! Curious as to what this will include, whether it's unreleased tracks, composer sketches and suites, or a mix of both. Hopefully it includes the music when young Jean arrives at the school, and maybe the credits music. But I'm game for brand new composer sketches too.

The track titles are interesting. Assuming the X-HZT is a composer sketch for Zimmer's new X-Men theme, like the composer sketch for Man of Steel. Maybe X-MT is a suite for Magneto's theme?

Very excited for this, especially since it's longer than the original score. Lots of possibilities!

timothy reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 12:15:16
Interesting to see the "Remote Control Productions, Inc." as the Label. Does this mean, that there is a chance to release older scores, complete scores, through this label? THAT would be groundbreaking...

GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 1 || 2019-07-26 10:53:20
What does mean HZT, HD or SS? Where is normal names of cues?


badbu 2019-07-26 11:47:33
HZT maybe Hans Zimmer Theme

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2019-07-25 23:21:21
It is coming afterall !


mpolonest123 2019-07-26 00:01:41
Awwwwww yessss!


nvictor2019-07-26 00:10:49
yaaass!


BC2019-07-26 00:52:37
Will this be a separate release, or will it be released in a Deluxe Edition with the released score?


Scorefan2019-07-26 01:37:13
@Hybrid, after all, Zimmer really liked work on this score. It's not common and judging by the label this effort comes from Zimmer and company.


Ahmad2019-07-26 02:32:18
Hoping this reaches HDTracks so I can double dip with the OST.


badbu2019-07-26 07:08:36
i'm so so happy!!!
and it's crazy to see that the labbel is rcp oO

HunterTech reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 00:40:56
I noticed that the label is only mentioned here as "Remote Control Productions, Inc.," as opposed to Fox Music of the OST. Does that mean that Fox/Disney has nothing to do with this particular release then?

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