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Excited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.
Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.
As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :DI really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the score
as for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?i don't know what to think about the use of mw2. i mean, i love his work for mw2, it's TOO good to be just a score for a game, a wider audience should hear this, so i'm kind of happy to hear some parts of it here. BUT somehow, it's kind of a lazy move just to copy that 1:1. some cues are untouched and some cues are layered with some themes of mancina. i would be interested to know what was he thinking while doing this? <br><br>i followed his video uploads on his social media channels, where he showed some snippets of the orchestra and i truly loved that. but while hearing at the score, i'm dissappointed to hear the quality as it sounds like synth. i mean that typically Balfe synth sound quality. if he uses truly orchestra, than it's a shame and pitty that it sounds like synths in the end. he needs a better recording or mixing or whatever to get rid of that synth-quality-design and having the true-orchestra feelingMancina's theme + Ad Astra + MW:2= Bad boys for Life.Please enlighten me on how Bad Boys 3 sounds the same as Lego Batman or Genius: Picasso
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Hans ZimmerSteve MazzaroDavid FlemingAndy Page
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Xperiments From Dark Phoenix
Label: Remote Control Productions, Inc. (Digital Download Only)
Length: 78'43
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  1. X-HZT (17:27)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. X-X (5:59)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  3. X-LGDP (8:07)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  4. X-SI (6:25)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  5. X-HD (3:32)
    Hans Zimmer, Andy Page
  6. X-MP (3:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Andy Page (Henry Purcell)
  7. X-MT (5:03)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  8. X-TX (8:48)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page
  9. X-MDP (9:06)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  10. X-F (3:56)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, Andy Page (Henry Purcell)
  11. X-CH (4:58)
    Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andy Page
  12. X-SS (2:01)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Mazzaro, David Fleming, Andy Page
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bob reply Replies: 0 || 2019-08-01 17:46:21
Track #2 tho

Morgan Joylighter reply Replies: 2 || 2019-08-01 16:47:22
Listening now...after five minutes my first thought it, wow this is definitely EXPERIMENTAL. Awesome but bizarre and surprising.


Soldierofrome2019-08-01 17:11:31
where did you listen?


Ds2019-08-01 17:36:37
It is already past midnight in Australia!

John G reply Replies: 12 || 2019-07-26 10:09:20
WE DID IT!!!!!!


Nahuel2019-07-30 03:42:53
A shame how disney ruined this movie with reshoots, missing scenes and poor marketing.


HunterTech2019-07-30 03:55:29
Disney had nothing to do with how the film turned out, since all the crucial choices were made prior to them having full control. The most they did afterwards was give it a stronger marketing boost near release, which only ended up working so well.


HunterTech2019-07-30 03:59:05
*ended up not doing much to help its chances to succeed.


MrZimmerFan2019-07-30 11:41:53
Disney complete the purchase of Fox one month before the movie release, and various executives and workers of Fox said the movie was 'sabotage' in a marketing level by Disney.


HunterTech2019-07-30 22:21:37
I wouldn't call making a video celebrating the series history with all the actors who were on board with the franchise 'sabotage' in any manner. Plus some of the posters I'd say were actually better than several of the more recent ones from the MCU. But yeah, let's keep believing Disney didn't want to make a profit out of this somehow. :P


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-30 22:27:40
Hunter, please, just don't...

Disney was embarassed to "receive" that movie in the Fox deal, they wanted it dead as fast as possible.

They made the production change the entire ending & pushed back the film not to overshadow Captain Marvel (which has the same ending)...


BC2019-07-31 00:18:11
@Hybrid Soldier

Wow...and here I thought Fox were the ones that demanded all of the changes after terrible screen testing. But now that I think about it, it does make sense that Disney demanded the changes, and that they didn't want the movie. Releasing it during summer season, especially after Endgame did the expected gangbusters was commercial suicide.

It might have faired better with the February release date, as it's a quieter month, but word is James Cameron demanded that it be pushed so that his little Battle Angel project wouldn't have any competition...and that turned out so well.


mpolonest123 2019-07-31 00:34:01
The irony is, Dark Phoenix is a stronger film than Captain Marvel. Granted, it’s a heavily flawed film (rushed third-act, awful villains, etc.) but I still would easily place it over that mess.

It definitely makes sense that Disney tried to sabotage the project, which seriously makes me wonder if the original version was a much stronger film. From what has been said it seems like some of the problems can be attributed to the reshoots. Reminds me a bit of Justice League...


HunterTech2019-07-31 01:00:01
I'm sorry, but it just doesn't line up with any of the information we've gotten prior and since release. Even if they wanted to, Disney couldn't do anything with the film until it came close to release. The re-shoots were decided upon before there was even any actual bidding for Fox, and only happened once the actors had enough time to do any additional filming. This choice was made in March 2018, while the merger was approved in July 2018, and not actually being in effect til a full year later. How are you going to dispute any of that?

I know everyone has a hate boner for Disney these days, but at least know when to criticize them for things they've actually done, as opposed to because you happened to not like some of their more recent efforts.

That being said: I'd be happy to see a Kinberg cut of DP, since while heavily flawed, I did get the feeling that they at least tried to make something with intrigue. Especially since this is an iteration I still have fondness for, so I'd like to see how it originally was.


MrZimmerFan2019-07-31 18:42:08
@HunterTech: The change ending was Disney's idea and the poor marketing campaing was to sink by any means the movie, obviously, for a reboot by Disney.

If the movie success, Disney will have a great problem.


BC2019-07-31 22:42:51
@HunterTech

The deal wasn't official until recently, but for all intents and purposes both companies were working like it was. A lot of people were released from their jobs, and Fox cancelled a lot of in development projects, while Disney decided to let them wrap up production on the movies they were working on.

At least that's what I've gathered from following the whole thing. The waiting period took so long and there was so much information it's very possible that I misremembered/am wrong.

@mpolonest123

I completely agree, and it's a shame. The movie had all of the pieces needed to be a great film, it just needed some reshoots to add a few sequences and strengthen what was there. I went into the movie expecting it to be a crapshoot and ended up really liking it and seeing it 3 times. It's far from perfect, but it's definitely not worse than The Last Stand's stab at adapting the material. Or X-Men Origins: Wolverine for that matter.


badbu2019-08-01 10:13:42
tomorrow!!! :-) <3

M-N reply Replies: 1 || 2019-07-31 13:25:56
Hey, since Hans managed to get this released under RCP, maybe Tom Holkenborg can do something similar with his Justice League material. I know, it's probably a pipe dream, and I imagine Tom just wants to move on from all that, but a man can dream.


mpolonest123 2019-07-31 15:00:15
I’m pretty sure the music for Justice League is owned by Warner Bros. And I highly doubt they are going to put anything out.

I wouldn’t be surprised if waaaayyyy down the road we get a Snyder cut in some form or another, with Tom’s music attached.

Ro reply Replies: 2 || 2019-07-28 11:52:38
If I understood things correctly, this wasn't the first time a Hans Zimmer scored project ended up with a trunk-load of unused materials. Yet this is seemingly the first time the composer himself pushed for these unused materials to be released for all to hear. What was the motivation here?


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-28 12:40:03
Because, for once, he was proud of all that work ? ;)


finn2019-07-30 12:12:03
hey hybrid could u talk abit more about that, that seems sad, that he isnt proud.

which movies did was he proud and not proud working on etc. would love to know more about hat

Jordan reply Replies: 5 || 2019-07-25 23:38:46
Still hoping for a 2CDs release :(


Leo 2019-07-28 08:07:56
This is the second CD bruh


Jordan2019-07-28 18:17:40
I mean "CD", not digital !


MrZimmerFan2019-07-28 18:19:11
That's not gonna happen

Disney owns Fox and with his mentality...


Hybrid Soldier2019-07-28 20:30:24
The problem is :

1 - Fox never released anything physically.
2 - They could have deals with other speciality labels, but after Disney swallowed them, old deals (LLL etc.) are gone.
3 - Technically, the ones that could takeover releasing it physically are Hollywood Records (Disney), but are apparently not staffed to add Fox catalogue to "to-do releases" before many months.

So, it could happen, but not right away... And will there still be any interest in a few months ? I don't think so. But who knows...


nvictor2019-07-28 21:59:05
OMG! yes yes yaass! so happy for this release :) :) i was on a trip when the news came out. amazing that big corporations have started listening to people. internet is amazing, isn't it? sad there is probably so much music sitting out there in the dark corners of many studios that no one will ever hear...

anyways, now we just wait a few days for this awesome release.

LS100 Studios reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 17:35:35
Great to see this happening! Curious as to what this will include, whether it's unreleased tracks, composer sketches and suites, or a mix of both. Hopefully it includes the music when young Jean arrives at the school, and maybe the credits music. But I'm game for brand new composer sketches too.

The track titles are interesting. Assuming the X-HZT is a composer sketch for Zimmer's new X-Men theme, like the composer sketch for Man of Steel. Maybe X-MT is a suite for Magneto's theme?

Very excited for this, especially since it's longer than the original score. Lots of possibilities!

timothy reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 12:15:16
Interesting to see the "Remote Control Productions, Inc." as the Label. Does this mean, that there is a chance to release older scores, complete scores, through this label? THAT would be groundbreaking...

GermanRCPFan reply Replies: 1 || 2019-07-26 10:53:20
What does mean HZT, HD or SS? Where is normal names of cues?


badbu 2019-07-26 11:47:33
HZT maybe Hans Zimmer Theme

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 6 || 2019-07-25 23:21:21
It is coming afterall !


mpolonest123 2019-07-26 00:01:41
Awwwwww yessss!


nvictor2019-07-26 00:10:49
yaaass!


BC2019-07-26 00:52:37
Will this be a separate release, or will it be released in a Deluxe Edition with the released score?


Scorefan2019-07-26 01:37:13
@Hybrid, after all, Zimmer really liked work on this score. It's not common and judging by the label this effort comes from Zimmer and company.


Ahmad2019-07-26 02:32:18
Hoping this reaches HDTracks so I can double dip with the OST.


badbu2019-07-26 07:08:36
i'm so so happy!!!
and it's crazy to see that the labbel is rcp oO

HunterTech reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 00:40:56
I noticed that the label is only mentioned here as "Remote Control Productions, Inc.," as opposed to Fox Music of the OST. Does that mean that Fox/Disney has nothing to do with this particular release then?

Nick reply Replies: 0 || 2019-07-26 00:27:18
Oh Hell yes! I understand that getting unreleased music released after all isn’t really that grand or important in the big scheme of things, but it still warms my heart knowing that when enough people rally around a cause and voice their thoughts, change can occur, regardless of the ultimate player on top. And this isn’t just a victory for that general sentiment, but also a victory for honest fans who care about the integrity of art and artists.

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