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The score reflects the situation of DC movies very well. If Zimmer, like Snyder, continued, the result may not please everyone. A lot of people were unhappy with Snyder's work in the genre, just as many fans of soundtrack were with Zimmer's contributions that never followed the path taken by all the other composers who came before him.<br><br>The two left (regardless of the reason that led them to do this).<br><br>When Zimmer left everyone knew that XL would not hold the pressure or that the result would not be satisfactory for most.<br><br>When Elfman and Whedon were announced we all knew that they were hired to go against everything DC has done before to try to reach the first film of the franchise to reach 1 billion. Even if they were to follow Marvel's script and drop their originality.<br><br>But the hiring of Elfman and Whedon shows that the studio was long lost. Snyder succumbed to BvS. The only salvation for the DCEU are the solo films like Wonder Woman, the next Batman, Aquaman ...and freedom. Freedom for the directors, composers... Warner has always had this advantage over Marvel.@Edmund <br>Given the chance I think Junkie probably could deliver a pretty fun score that stayed thematically consistent with the current universe. It all depends on what the studio/director wants out of the music. The biggest disappointment to me is that this was a huge missed opportunity to do a heroic take on Zimmer’s Superman theme, something we haven’t heard since MoS. Hell, even the trailers did that.... -_-rumor has it Lorne Balfe did this score<br><br>I guess if we do not get any credits then that proves it<br>======================================<br><br>Oh, absolutely! I'm sure we will soon find out that Balfe also scored Star Wars and Titanic. And Harry Potter. And Indiana Jones.Edmund, I somewhat agree - I've seen very little from Junkie to make me think this would have been a groundbreaking, wonderful score. However, maybe it's the Zimmer fan in me, but I would have loved to hear "stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place" in this score. So many scenes begged for just that. Compositionally it doesn't make for an interesting soundtrack or film score, I agree, but I would be willing to sacrifice that for thematic continuity.I certainly understand the criticisms leveled at Elfman's JL score, but I'm not at all convinced Junkie would have been a better option. I've never been too convinced by him anyway (Mad Max was a situation where his sound happened to be a good fit, but even then I think a better composer could have made much more out of the same ingredients). And since anything worthwhile in the previous two (and yeah, I'm aware I like MoS and BvS waaaaaaaay less than the average reader of this site) ended up being by Hans anyway, I really doubt Junkie flying solo would have been up to much. My guess is he would have pulled out stock, barely-altered reprises of Zimmer's themes all over the place without adding much new material on his own, which would have satisfied the DC fans more than what Elfman did, sure, but would have been a lot less interesting as a score album. I mean, say what you want about the questionable thematic decisions Elfman made, the two gigantic full-length action cues are pretty solid in and of themselves. I'll take that over Junkie letting the drums pound for eleven minutes straight, any day of the week.
The studio is the music owner now.There you go. So we probably will never get to hear what Tom planned/did for this movie. I really believe that it would've been great compared to the generic score we got. <br>Only two tracks stood out to me and only one was an actual cue from the movie.Gabriel Yared leaked his Troy back in 2004 but I think he got in quite a lot of trouble for that. There's a reason he hasn't done too many high profile films since then, I think. A few rejecteds have slipped out over the years but it's pretty unheard of for the composer himself to be the one to leak it I think, that would be career suicide if they got caught. Usually they come out the same way complete scores do, some anonymous person working on the scoring team probably did it.and Zimmer criticized Elfman...back and forth, etc. So what? The movie is lame, the score is about as lame as Bat V Sup@JBSO99 you're right. It's so big and widely spread.<br><br>And you're right about me forgetting those score. I just picked these three because Elfman critized Zimmer
@Iamtommie  You forgot the theme by Elliot Goldenthal for Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, for not to mention the theme from the 60's TV show and all the themes for all the different animated motion pictures such as The Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the Phantasm, or the videogames like the Arkham series.<br><br>Batman's musical legacy is very big so him saying there is only one theme and his the one he created is really disrespectful to a big amount of composers.Yeah, that's what I thought you meant. And that's what Elfman should have done if he wanted to use the old themes.I think what Elfman said is not true.<br>Batman has different themes for different movies because every Batman is different.<br><br>Michael Keaton as Batman: Elfman's Theme<br>Christian Bale as Batman: Hans' Theme<br>Ben Affleck as Batman: Hans & Junkie's Theme.<br>Of course much more but the most important.<br><br>Each one if dies Batman's have a different story and a different universe. I think that for each universe a new theme is the best thing you can do. With a different theme you can relate more to this Batman than a previous one.<br><br>By the way, I think TDK, MoS & WW are 3 of the top 10 themes by Zimmer. I think what Elfman did the WW theme is an abomination. He removed the key instrument in the theme because he thought it was childisch.<br><br>I think the Justce League score is way worse than previous DCEU or Batman movies. I hope that Lorne of Junkie will do future DCUE movies instead of Elfman.<br><br>(Seeing Justice League thursday. I am curious if it is really that bad as everyine says)GITS was unreleased, JXL's JL score was completely rejected. The real qustion is how many rejected scores have leaked in the history of modern film scoring?Ghost in a thing that doesn't have life but does
Which score would that be?Seeing as how Lorne Balfe “leaked” his own score, I wonder if Tom could easily do the same?Haha - honestly though, before I realized this I felt Jablonsky didn't really bind the score together that well with themes and motifs. This is a pretty cool connection and I'm glad he made it.Almost like this was a film score or something! ;)I don't suppose you have credits for this score, Hybrid?
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltHeitor PereiraMartin Tillman
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The Pledge
Label: Milan Records
Length: 40'18
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Barbara reply Replies: 0 || 2012-03-10 10:17:44
This is a superb DVD! For a ivnlioist, Frank Peter Zimmermann represents the highest level of musicianship. The Documentary is not just about Bach, in fact it has lots of other footage, including his son and his own performance of the Sibelius Violin Concerto with the Danish Radio Symphony (this is excellent). He plays like Kogan, not surprisingly and his technique is as flawless as any ivnlioist I have seen or heard.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-12-01 00:00:00
Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt also worked together on various works including the GLADIATOR and INVINCIBLE soundtracks, but don't expect to listen to anything similar, in the score for THE PLEDGE.

Unlike the last few Zimmer scores, which were vast, dramatic, intense and epic, THE PLEDGE, is built on a more down-beat atmosphere (and that’s of course due to the nature of the movie) The score opens with a beautiful and haunting melody sang by a woman and repeated by a violin.
Track02 contains several percussion beats and creates a scary atmosphere. Parts like this can be found a lot in the score -- where percussion, electronic sounds and effects, scary voices, piano, violin, the female voice and mandolin create a creepy atmosphere, like track04, track05, track09, track12, track13, track15.
In track03, the main theme makes its first appearance. It consists of guitar, mandolin, violin and piano and can be heard several times in the film, sometimes in different versions - the main instrument could be piano in one, violin or guitar in other (track07, track08 (more upbeat and fast, played by beautiful guitar), track11, track15).
The score also has a piano theme that can be firstly heard in track06 and repeats itself several times during the film (like in track10). It has a sad and lovely tune, a real treat for the ears!
In track 12 we have the beautiful female voice again in another haunting melody that features great atmosphere, feeling and depth.
Track14 is a combination of all the themes and great parts of the entire score. It consists of the female voice, vastly beautiful and sad piano melodies and the violin for escort-- probably the best track in this album and some of Zimmer's greatest works up-to-date.
Track16, which closes the film, is also a combination of several themes and parts of the film. It starts with the piano theme (heard in track06 and track10) and goes on with haunting and scary electronic effects and sounds created by percussion, guitar, mandolin and creepy violin. Then the piano theme is played by violin this time and makes a great difference. The track, (at about 3 minutes of play), gets loud, creepy and scary-- then calms down and ends with a more intense variation of track 14, played by violin (as the main instrument) piano, mandolin, guitars and loud percussion, providing the score (and film) with a more up-beat ending.

The entire score is a great work, which has lovely melodies and themes for easy listening. All these create a sad and sometimes creepy atmosphere that fits perfect in the theme and subject of the film. THE PLEDGE is not your typical Hans Zimmer or Klaus Badelt score for sure, with the great choir themes, loud brass and dramatic, epic atmosphere and feeling. It's just lovely, sad and hauntingly beautiful - quality music for all the music and movie lovers, and -of course- Zimmer followers.

Demetris Christodoulides

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