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what an incredible album! it is getting very close to my personal favorite which is dunkirk. there is so much mastery in both. one thing that dunkirk has that this album doesn't have is a sense of repetition. both albums have some kind of non-finality. with dunkirk, i feel transported back to the beginning. with this one, i am not sure what comes next.<br><br>Hans and team probably have their share of anecdotes but here's another one.<br><br>i was playing this one day and my friend's daughter asked me if this was from... she hesitated and asked: the dark phoenix movie? i was astonished. she is 12 and probably not into movie scores. but she was able to pinpoint the right movie from a random part. that's something many aspire to. especially with the millions of super heroes movies out there!<br><br>i told her how impressed i was and went on unleashing my Hans Zimmer collection onto her haha :)Because i don't support the idea of 'only good scores are full orchestral', don't agree with that statement.<br><br>Yes, i love Your Highness and Steamboy, aslo really like stuff like TF (except the four) and TMNT 2. But also something like Pain & Gain, Bloodshot, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th or the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Deepwater Horizon, even i consider (unpopular opinion) guilty pleasure Battleship.<br><br>Yes, i'm weird :p<br>I love revisiting this score. It's just so much fun, and I love hearing this side of Steve's music. I remember watching interviews where he'd talk about programming John Williams' string patterns into midi instruments, and his love for Williams' work overall. This side of him is rarely shown in his projects. <br><br>But then you have scores like this that show off how much of a wizard he can be with music. Melodic action music, fun and creative use of synth, classic Jablonsky choir chants, and beautiful use of the orchestra. Perfect for a fantasy comedy with a modern twist. <br><br>I cannot stress enough how much I love tracks like "Isabel the Strong", "Labyrinths And Humps", and "Mean Knights and Horsies O' My!". "Playful Secrets" in particular shows just how much of an expert Steve is with an orchestra. It sounds straight out of a John Williams score like Harry Potter or Indiana Jones with a fun Danny Elfman choir on top. Not to mention the beautifully performed bassoon and French Horn combo at 0:39 and 0:44! <br><br>These are the kinds of projects I like to see from Jablonsky. Films and games that allow him to show off his skills and test his abilities to the point where he creates complex, unique, varied, thematically rich, and truly poignant music. <br><br>This is something that I can point to and say "that's 100% a Steve Jablonsky score". It has some influence from Zimmer, but is not copying him by any means. Maybe with the slight exception of "Thadeous".Can't really agree that much with Bloodshot. The reason I was able to be engaged in Jablonsky's past scores similar to this (e.g. TF5, TMNT 2) was his strong melodic voice. Even in the more sound design parts of those scores there was at least several themes that I enjoyed, easily identified, and analyzed some lovely development for them. <br><br>Bloodshot doesn't really have that, it's got themes so minimal (except for KT which I can't really enjoy because the melody sounds identical to "Optimus"), that whatever development is there, I feel nothing toward because it's easy and boring to develop a theme that's basically just a series of chords. <br><br>Keanu I can't entirely judge Jablonsky for as it was also Nathan Whitehead's score, but it just sounds like Bloodshot 0.5 to me. Guitar chords, sound design, string ostinatos, wandering piano theme, been there done that. <br><br>Good lord, do I hope Steve works on Orbital Era though. It would be so refreshing to hear a full-on orchestral Jablonsky score again.Not only better than Spenser, it's better than Skyscraper.<br><br>Ok, Bloodshot maybe isn't one of the best works by Jablonsky, but after such disappointing with Skyscraper, see Jab in a work with choir, guitars, cool themes (if don't catch the similarities between KT's theme with the Autobots theme ;D) and good action writing (hang in there, i'm not going say is something good as Steamboy or Your Highness, even some of the Transformers/The Island stuff), as for the sound design, i prefer people like Jab, Zimmer or Holkenborg MORE than something dreadful as Reznor/Ross
Just listen Bloodshot OST again and I like it better than for the first time. Yes there is a lot of sounddesign elements, but quiet and melodic moments are good at some parts. My favorite track is "Bloodshot". For me this work, despite all the problems, is far better than Spencer Confidential.<br><br>There is extremely need of new Sci-Fi (not like Bloodshot, lol) or Fantasy project for Steve to work on. I'm fairly certain that he could provide amazing music for this genres, but for some reason.<br>Also, I've listened a few tracks from his "Keanu" score (posted on his new website) and it's wonderful, hope there will be a full release sometime. This one reminds me of another genre where Steve is good - comedy and parody movies - "Your Highness", "Pain and Gain", "Sims 3" (yes, it's a game score but it has that comedy atmosphere I'm talking about) all are really great scores for its genre.<br><br>For me "Eternals" from Marvel could be a good movie for Steve to work. And honestly, I would like to see what he could brings to "Godzilla vs Kong" crossover more than Junkie XL.<br><br>At least I hope that Katsuhiro Otomo would like to work with Steve again on his new anime project "Orbital Era", truly a dream-project.Yes, the sound mixing in the movie is bad, you can't listen the music properly, is buried under a lot of sound effects.<br><br>It was one of those situations where 'the music is trying to overlook the thunderous sound effects',I do kinda prefer the 2014 score over the KOTM score, but McCreary's work does deserve more love than just being called a 'retreat of the original theme'.<br>It also deserved to be heard more, but the movie's sound mixing was terrible.Wasn't expecting to see someone else here for the same reason. Really hoping those two soundtracks return, they're great for studying music.Are Steve Jablonsky and Rupert Greyson-Williams still apart of RCP or they went solo too?
I wouldn't disagree that Godzilla KOTM is a good score since it works very well for the movie and by itself. I'm just saying that Junkie XL can bring something new and interesting to the franchise which hasn't been done before.Before someone jump, i will said in this kind of movies, change a composer is very common, don't say i don't want McCreary will be back, only i prefer other people try other things.<br><br>Like i said, i listen very OFTEN the three scores in this movies, and i love each style (as for the movies... well, prefer G14 and KSI over KOTM)@Moggyman<br><br>If you think that all McCreary did was modernize the Godzilla theme, you clearly haven't listend to the score.<br>He indeed used and modernized the themes for Godzilla & Mothra.<br>Besides that he wrote new themes for Rodan, Ghidorah, Monarch, The Russel Family and a theme he called the Ancient theme.<br><br>Besides this, he used the orchestra, choir, soloist and specialty instruments in the best way they can be used.<br><br>His score was one of the best blockbuster and orchestral scores of the last couple of years, in my opinion.<br><br>Until I hear Holkenborg's score I can't really comment on if it will be good. But at the moment I am sad McCreary isn't coming back. But I am very curious what Holkenborg will doI disagree, the McCreary's score in that movie is really, really good... but I put this, as myself i listen very often the other two: G14 and Skull Island, also really, really good, can't put a score over another because one composer uses a theme (a very mytical one, if you are a movie monster fan), specially in that franchise.<br><br>Yes, Ifukube create a wonderful theme (and the original movie have a really tough score to listen isolated of the movie), but other composer make a wonderful themes (and polaraising), like Otani (which his score for GMK is FULL electronic, but really good) or Oshima (great theme, maybe the inspiration for Desplat's theme), even the most forgotten Reijiro Koroku create a terrific theme for the character in 1984Bear McCreary is a good composer but all he did for Godzilla KOTM was modernize the original Godzilla theme, which isnt super creative. Junkie, on the other hand, may give us a really creative score based on his eagerness to do the project.
Yeah besides the massive disappointment that is the movie Godzilla: King of the Monsters, the even bigger disappointment is that Bear McCreary won't be back for more.you fool.... its impossible ! everybody knows that there is only one batman theme.... (joke)In a recent interview, Junkie mentioned that he's bringing back themes for Superman and Wonder Woman, while everything else is new. I wonder if he's gonna make a new Batman theme.It's true, there is completely different team from composer to director in crossover :)But the film was particularly bad...<br><br>So I rather have a whole other team do something ELSE lol...
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MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 16 || 2020-09-09 18:26:03
If you expected the music of the Dune trailer is Hans'... i don't think so.


badbu 2020-09-09 19:57:48
i hope not...it’s aweful...


MrZimmerFan2020-09-09 20:04:55
It's Pink Floyd's Eclipse, an homage to the Jodorowsky's never realised version, because he wanted Pink Floyd to compose the music of his movie


Hybrid Soldier2020-09-09 20:51:12
It is in fact Hans' arrangement of the song, exactly for that reason.

But it also confirms Teaser 1 music was Hans, and that is the most important... lol


IN2020-09-10 08:18:44
Disappointed with this stuff being Hans tbh. Here is hoping the actual OST will be great but if those snippets are anything to go by...

Honestly I thought all of it was just some generic trailerhouse stuff. Was expecting him being inspired meant we’d get something as great as Interstellar (which we still might of course).


Macejko2020-09-10 09:39:57
There are very few things more creatively bankrupt than basing movie trailers around well-known songs. Seriously, every single goddamn time nowadays.


iamtommie442020-09-10 10:23:31
I don't think we can judge what the score will sound like on the basis of a trailer song arranged by Zimmer.

Trailer music and the music in the film both have different purposes 9 out 10 times are different from the score in the film.

Just wait until the score and film come out to judge what Zimmer has done.


e2020-09-10 10:36:16
Movie trailers themselves are creatively bankrupt macejko. I just find myself feeling slightly embarrassed watching them. I was hoping the Dune trailer might be something a bit more special... but it was just the usual series of non-sequiturs, corny narration, and shots of people punching cut to some lame-sounding drums ...

I'm really looking forward to Dune and Bond, both movie and score, but the music just sounded like the usual stock trailer crap, hopefully it's not indicative of the score...


Macejko2020-09-10 10:58:02
e: You said it, man. I would also mention the blockbuster movie posters, or rather "a collection of large heads stacked on top smaller heads".

I know that in the case of Dune, the use of a Pink Floyd song is (at least probably) a tribute to Jodorowsky's unrealised vision, but that's more of a lucky excuse to continue this embarassing trailer trend than anything else. If this connection wasn't there, they would just use some other band.


isildur2020-09-10 17:33:45
I hope the score won't sound like the Teaser 1 music. That's just Man of Steel and BvS arrangement. The drums are getting old now. I hope Hans will come up with something utterly fresh and exciting.


Anonymous2020-09-10 20:43:54
you don’t know mos and BvS if you think the teaser sounds like either of those scores. i think it sounds awesome and can wait to hear the full score


Hybrid Soldier2020-09-10 21:37:27
That was not Teaser 1, but Teaser 2.

Teaser 1 was the pre Tenet cinema exclusive.


That's what I'm talking about.


Oh and BTW Inception & The Peacemaker had trailers using arrangements of the scores (specifically done by Lorne & HGW) which... sounded quite nothing like the actual scores ! lol


ThePhantasm2020-09-10 21:42:36
wait so the music you hear in teaser 2 is Hans music? there is a teaser with Jason Momoa walking and the music sounds amazing, but it's not the same music from the full length trailer


IN2020-09-10 22:15:01
Hmm, yeah kinda unsure now.

So there is that teaser playing before Tenet that starts with Chalamet and his hand in the box etc. Some soft synth (iirc) and then the title reveal at the end where we do hear music. So thats Hans?

How about the other teaser(?) thats a rollup of the cast fading away with some sand effect, that one sounded also pretty similar to the pre-Tenet teaser (have to go back and listen).


Hybrid Soldier2020-09-10 22:43:34
I think all the teasers use HZ's score.


Mephariel2020-09-11 04:07:38
Sounds awesome to me. Can't wait to hear the full score.


ThePhantasm2020-09-11 06:41:52
I hope it is, i love the theme that plays when jason momoa is walking and taking the glove off it's soooooo epic.


isildur2020-09-11 14:17:21
I thought Teaser 1 was the one released before the trailer. My bad. Here is the teaser that played before tenet. Watch it before it's deleted

https: //www.reddit.com/r/tenet/comments/ikcped/dune_trailer_tease_ that_played_before_tenet/

Maninblack52 reply Replies: 6 || 2020-09-07 16:31:54
Is there any chance of Zimmer reusing Newman's themes? That Madeline cue from spectre was excellent.


Edmund Meinerts2020-09-07 16:57:21
I really, really doubt it. That would be very unlike Zimmer to do.


Miralsice2020-09-08 00:18:28
Sadly, but it’s even less likely than that Zimmer will re-use John Barry's Bond theme.


HunterTech2020-09-08 05:04:59
If you mean the "007 theme" off From Russia With Love ("007 Takes the Lektor"), then nobody has used it past its last appearance (not even David Arnold).

Of course the iconic Monty Norman theme is gonna be used. No official EON film has ever ignored it. Besides, when is Zimmer one to actually ignore iconic themes in long running franchises?


NotSoAnonymous2020-09-08 20:16:05
Yeah, EON would never allow the Bond theme to be omitted. The only time that has even remotely occurred was with David Arnold's "Casino Royale" score, which was intentional, as it was an origin story. And even then its a classic bond score through and through with all the elements and motifs in their infancy culminating in the full theme over the credits.

Furthermore, the brief recording session for NTTD that leaked some time ago had the classic bond theme motif right at the end. No way Hans would not use one of the most iconic films themes of all time - especially with Johnny Marr being in the mix.

As for the "007" theme, I doubt that will make a return - as cool as that would be.


Anonymous2020-09-09 00:12:18
Norman’s Bond theme is literally sprinkled throughout the entire film, as is You Know My Name. Its just not heard in FULL until the very end. But you can definitely hear it all over.


NotSoAnonymous2020-09-09 03:42:36
As I noted "even then its a classic bond score through and through with all the elements and motifs in their infancy culminating in the full theme over the credits."

You definitely hear bits and pieces, however, the full traditional arrangement isn't heard until the end. You can hear the chord progression in a few tracks, as well as the percussion lines, and some minor nods to the main theme, however, arrangements of "You Know My Name" make up the majority of the score.

Cgibber reply Replies: 4 || 2020-09-03 10:58:40
Does anyone know if the new trailer music will be from Hans?


Cgibber2020-09-03 14:01:26
Ya it definitely is not.


badbu2020-09-03 14:12:58
i think it is


Mephariel2020-09-04 05:15:37
I think it sounds like it could be from Hans. But not definitive.


jimbo2020-09-06 19:09:00
The new international trailer at 0:51 definately has a Zimmer sound going on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9bAepYiDRI

badbu reply Replies: 4 || 2020-07-30 17:10:45
can't wait to hear some cues... :(
come on hans drop one on youtube :D


Anonymous2020-07-30 18:34:36
well you gonna have to wait. it’s rumored the film won’t open until spring 2021 now, which will put it at having been delayed nearly an entire year.


badbu 2020-07-30 20:51:50
yes i know :/


badbu2020-08-27 14:38:49
in germany november 2020 :)


Der Profl2020-08-29 00:47:11
@badbu Hopefully. But if a second wave is coming, maybe No Time To Die has no time to screen in the cinemas. (Oh, that was a bad joke. I go now.)

Anonymous reply Replies: 9 || 2020-06-24 14:29:04
Steve Mazzaro is co-composer ?


Mr.Unbreakable2020-06-24 19:55:29
I imagine Steve has played the same role as Lorne in inception.


ThePhantasm2020-06-24 20:35:55
I think it's a bigger role than that. from an interview hans just did it sounds like he did more than Hans... a lot more. I could be wrong but that's the vibe i got from it. I'm really glad Steve is getting his time to shit. JB is a huge name and he's flow low key for too long.


Edmund Meinerts2020-06-24 21:39:22
"I'm really glad Steve is getting his time to shit."

Yeah constipation can be pretty rough


Hybrid Soldier2020-06-24 22:29:09
Be careful of the natural tendency Hans has to put some light on the role of others... :)


Mephariel2020-06-25 07:05:47
Yeah, Zimmer has already say things like that. That is how he build his empire.


Macejko2020-06-25 10:41:49
I remember Hans directly responding to me on Facebook saying that this score is gonna be mostly him. Oh well, from the "Kawczynski - Mazzaro" duo, Steve is at least a much, much better choice. And as Hybrid says, it might be embellished.


Macejko2020-06-25 10:42:27
Oh, sorry, I thought we are talking about Dune here.


ThePhantasm2020-06-25 21:26:02
i did not realize i put shit instead of shine lmaoooo fml I'm out of here lol


Anonymous2020-07-12 03:08:15
“natural tendency to put light on the role of others” hahahah...

Anon reply Replies: 1 || 2020-06-24 12:31:11
Zimmer did an interview with Variety about this - variety.com/2020/music/news/hans-zimmer-interview-bond-dune- lion-king-ascap-awards-1234646855/

god, I hope we get to hear some of it soon


e2020-06-24 17:20:25
Sounds like he was challenging himself to write a ton of scores this year. He sounds really inspired lol.

James reply Replies: 8 || 2020-03-20 06:51:39
I don't suppose the Bond producers would allow you to do a preview of 30 seconds clips from 4-5 tracks (and maybe the gunbarrel) to tide us over until November?


badbu2020-03-20 14:40:58
that would be amazing :D


Hybrid Soldier2020-03-20 16:45:42
Guys............ Come back in november... (And who knows what happens until then...)


1232020-03-20 23:33:06
Hybrid, probably a stupid question, but I would love to know, is there any chance you could add back the player with music to this website? At least to albums that are older, there were some gems that I could never find on albums (extended version of training montage from Flyboys, Bible, etc), so thats why I am asking. Thanks


Hybrid Soldier2020-03-21 09:55:09
Unfortunately, that's not possible... Even if I would love to... :(


1232020-03-21 10:38:40
I understand *cough cough* maybe you could add some to your youtube channel *cough cough* :D :D


J2020-03-22 01:12:55
Out of curiosity - what tracks in particular would you want to hear most?


1232020-03-22 12:54:28
I would love to listen to an extended version of "Training Montage" from Flyboys, It´s just few more additional seconds, but I love film version the most and If I recall correctly, it was on this website :/


e2020-05-16 22:09:11
I know there's probably nothing you can tell us but Hybrid do you have any stories about this score or any of the upcoming ones to whet the appetite?

Mr.Unbreakable reply Replies: 5 || 2020-03-01 00:40:05
Hans Zimmer for mission impossible 7 !!! This is incredible although I wanted to see Lorne again.


Felix2020-03-01 01:09:51
My god.....
McQuarries Post was just because of TopGun, this habe nothong to do with MI7


Mr.Unbreakable2020-03-01 01:11:38
I correct before anyone says anything. Hans is not doing M:I 7


Thomas2020-03-01 04:28:11
I hope Lorne Balfe is doing it again.I think this is about Top Gun.Fallout was the best of the franchises soundtrack.


Hybrid Soldier2020-03-01 10:12:49
Stop spreading nonsense... Can't you read, THINK & analyse before you post anything ?

There's a high probably Lorne will return.


Mephariel2020-03-02 05:17:47
It is crazy to think that both James Bond and M:I franchises are under RCP control. At least M:I is. Not sure about Bond after this.

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2020-03-01 15:23:53
Oscar Senén and Joan Martorell orchestrate the score ?

Andreas reply Replies: 11 || 2020-02-20 22:29:24
Will the Song "No Time to Die" from Billie Eilish on the CD release of this Album?


Anon2020-02-20 23:11:50
doesn't look like it but per the announcement on 007.com an 'epic sweeping instrumental orchestral version' of it will be


Andreas2020-02-21 11:07:58
Well ok, but how to get the song itself on physical cd, if its not on this soundtrack. There is now official Single CD yet for the Song ... :/


Felix2020-02-21 15:33:08
Who needs CDs?? LoL


Lejti2020-02-21 15:39:22
Felix: some people buy CD-s yet nowadays, some people thinks, if a music is a masterpiece in it's own, then they can appreciate the composer's work with some money, even that money going to the publisher


Macejko2020-02-21 15:39:26
I do. And other collectors too. LOL.


Lejti2020-02-21 18:40:04
Macejko: i do too


Andreas2020-02-24 19:18:16
It's not only to appreciate the work, its to have something "real" in your hands, for your music collection. I don't like only to have a digital music archive. Of course, i rip all the cds i own to WAV and MP3. But i want to have them in my physical music collection.


mpolonest123 2020-02-24 19:40:15
It all comes to personal preference I think. Personally I’ve moved on from collecting cd’s (or anything really) and would rather have everything digital simply to utilize space.

That being said, I completely understand the appeals of having physical media, it would be sad to see that go away for the people who really love it.


Andreas2020-03-01 11:33:32
So, there are still no hints or something that tells if the Song itself will be on this soundtrack release, or not?


Hybrid Soldier2020-03-01 12:53:47
Press release was clear : it'll contain a more orchestral arrangement of it. But not the single as released a few days ago.


Andreas2020-03-01 15:06:22
So it will not be on it. So as it seems there will be no official Single CD release, i decided to buy a promo cd from "no time to die" on ebay. Would the Song had been on the album release, i could have dispense the promo cd. Btw, thank you for you reply!

Ian Brown McCarthy reply Replies: 2 || 2020-02-20 07:04:19
LOL @ 1/5 star rating, before release.

Good job, Internet.


dingoutback2020-02-21 18:38:48
I for one believe they should not allow user ratings until the album has been released.


J2020-02-22 13:04:33
And even then, people rate before listening to it...

badbu reply Replies: 0 || 2020-02-20 09:29:25
oh yes!!! :-)

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