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Yes, the sound mixing in the movie is bad, you can't listen the music properly, is buried under a lot of sound effects.<br><br>It was one of those situations where 'the music is trying to overlook the thunderous sound effects',I do kinda prefer the 2014 score over the KOTM score, but McCreary's work does deserve more love than just being called a 'retreat of the original theme'.<br>It also deserved to be heard more, but the movie's sound mixing was terrible.Wasn't expecting to see someone else here for the same reason. Really hoping those two soundtracks return, they're great for studying music.Are Steve Jablonsky and Rupert Greyson-Williams still apart of RCP or they went solo too?I wouldn't disagree that Godzilla KOTM is a good score since it works very well for the movie and by itself. I'm just saying that Junkie XL can bring something new and interesting to the franchise which hasn't been done before.
Before someone jump, i will said in this kind of movies, change a composer is very common, don't say i don't want McCreary will be back, only i prefer other people try other things.<br><br>Like i said, i listen very OFTEN the three scores in this movies, and i love each style (as for the movies... well, prefer G14 and KSI over KOTM)@Moggyman<br><br>If you think that all McCreary did was modernize the Godzilla theme, you clearly haven't listend to the score.<br>He indeed used and modernized the themes for Godzilla & Mothra.<br>Besides that he wrote new themes for Rodan, Ghidorah, Monarch, The Russel Family and a theme he called the Ancient theme.<br><br>Besides this, he used the orchestra, choir, soloist and specialty instruments in the best way they can be used.<br><br>His score was one of the best blockbuster and orchestral scores of the last couple of years, in my opinion.<br><br>Until I hear Holkenborg's score I can't really comment on if it will be good. But at the moment I am sad McCreary isn't coming back. But I am very curious what Holkenborg will doI disagree, the McCreary's score in that movie is really, really good... but I put this, as myself i listen very often the other two: G14 and Skull Island, also really, really good, can't put a score over another because one composer uses a theme (a very mytical one, if you are a movie monster fan), specially in that franchise.<br><br>Yes, Ifukube create a wonderful theme (and the original movie have a really tough score to listen isolated of the movie), but other composer make a wonderful themes (and polaraising), like Otani (which his score for GMK is FULL electronic, but really good) or Oshima (great theme, maybe the inspiration for Desplat's theme), even the most forgotten Reijiro Koroku create a terrific theme for the character in 1984Bear McCreary is a good composer but all he did for Godzilla KOTM was modernize the original Godzilla theme, which isnt super creative. Junkie, on the other hand, may give us a really creative score based on his eagerness to do the project.Yeah besides the massive disappointment that is the movie Godzilla: King of the Monsters, the even bigger disappointment is that Bear McCreary won't be back for more.
you fool.... its impossible ! everybody knows that there is only one batman theme.... (joke)In a recent interview, Junkie mentioned that he's bringing back themes for Superman and Wonder Woman, while everything else is new. I wonder if he's gonna make a new Batman theme.It's true, there is completely different team from composer to director in crossover :)But the film was particularly bad...<br><br>So I rather have a whole other team do something ELSE lol...Yeah... McCreary's score is one of the best from last year so I'd rather have him again.
I open to ANY composer in this movies.<br><br>To answer the question, YES, i'm ready<br><br>Specially to a guy, who loves G14, KSi and KOTMNo way. After what Bear McCreary did on King of the Monsters last year I definitely want him back.Atli still has his studio at Remote but mostly works from home in Iceland.<br><br>Guillaume game back to settle to Remote a couple of years ago (before he was splitting time between RCP & France).<br><br>Heitor still is at RCP as far as I know, haven't heard anything in a while.<br><br>Nathan Stornetta left Remote in 2015 (against Hans' will !! :)) cause he didn't fancy much that whole Hollywood business. He is home in Switzerland doing his own projects, but also touring with Hans...Atli ÷rvarsson, Heitor Pereira, Guillaume Roussel and Nathan Stornetta ?Marc left RCP in like... 2003 ? lol<br><br><br>And yes he is, check his page, he just doesn't have much going on anyway.
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Hans ZimmerKlaus BadeltLisa GerrardNick Glennie-Smith
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Mission - Impossible 2 (Expanded)
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  1. Hijack (5:32)
  2. Mission: Impossible Theme (0:36)
  3. Seville - Part I & II (2:07)
  4. The Heist (2:40)
  5. Sunset Ride (0:38)
  6. Seville - Part III (1:52)
  7. Nyah (Film Version) (feat. Heitor Pereira) (2:42)
  8. Nekhorvichís Message (1:18)
  9. Nyah's True Mission (2:27)
  10. The Bait (2:51)
  11. Ambrose Welcomes Nyah (4:08)
  12. The Chimera Myth (1:30)
  13. Finger Cutting (0:47)
  14. At The Race Track (7:06)
  15. McCloy Gets Gas - Nyah Tries To Escape (5:21)
  16. McCloy In Hospital - Ambrose Knows (2:46)
  17. Breaking Into Biocyte (3:02)
  18. Chimera - Part I (3:25)
  19. Bio-Techno (1:51)
  20. Injection (4:28)
  21. Chimera - Part II (6:18)
  22. Bare Island - Part I (2:24)
  23. Bare Island - Part II (3:02)
  24. Mano A Mano - Part I (4:15)
  25. Bare Island - Part III & IV (7:29)
  26. Mano A Mano - Part II (5:17)
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katrin reply Replies: 0 || 2020-08-14 06:43:04
why no cd release?

James reply Replies: 5 || 2020-08-09 20:48:10
So this is what Mondo had to say about their massive screw up. I've never heard something so stupid in my life. If I had a direct line to Hans Zimmerman himself I'd call him about this. I'm sure he would be interested to know they butchered his album.

"Hi James,

I talked with the soundtracks department and here's what they had to say:

Weíve been made aware of a discrepancy between how the audio sounds on our album versus how it was previously released in original releases.

Our masters came directly from the studio and from original recording sessions, and we did not do any adjustments to the masters in post other than standard vinyl mastering process. But it seems any previous post production on those original releases, and cues used in the film itself, are absent from our release and may account for the differences you notice.

We currently do not have any plans on remastering the score."


HunterTech2020-08-09 22:58:27
Considering the recent issues with the isolated score on Days of Thunder's 4K release sounding very inconsistent, I do wonder if Paramount has simply been poor in preserving stuff. Especially when they mention the studio and not the record label, which might've had a better copy on hand (they did finally put the OST on digital recently, after all).

I am not going to hold Mondo responsible for this, especially considering they normally do just press the regular OSTs onto LPs. I don't expect them to be fully privy to if a score sounds fine or not, since they're often just given the stuff prepared for them. Besides, repressing records would be a super expensive ordeal, especially with how limited they're often designed to be now.

And honestly: since no one has made the comparison to Sherlock 2 yet, how bad sounding is it really? I'd much rather it be slightly off than it being complete trash like the Perseverance release of Rain Man was. If HZ was able to let that slide once, then he won't be so worked up over a small tempo issue.


Hybrid Soldier2020-08-09 23:35:03
You gotta realize one thing, most of the time, Hans doesn't even know about these releases (and honestly I think he doesn't care). Only a few labels like LLL play ball and have him involved (but as Hans doesn't own most of his music, they have no other reason than courtesy to do so).

As for MI2, people who complained about the "content" instead of the tech aspect of it were goddamn wrong. Yes, the film mixes / OST mixes are pretty different. Because you have suites & sometimes material specifically arranged for the album or alternate cues.

Mondo having released the final mixes (and I know what Paramount provided them, it's just exactly the same 2 CD set copy that leaked years ago), I have no problem if the content is different.

And that's the topic on which they answered, James. Technically, they're not wrong, but they are ditching the REAL problem, for which they are responsible for ! The speed issue is on them, not on what they got.


HunterTech2020-08-10 00:53:37
I guess it's only fair that they do shoulder the blame, considering again that releases like these aren't really the norm for them. I still wouldn't expect a recall and replacement, since it'd be a lot of money down the drain there. Their loss ultimately at the end of the day.

A bit disappointed about the content being the exact same as the leak, as I would've liked some of the film edits or at least the alt mixes I've seen pop up. I guess I'll just have to hope Disney does end up cooperating with LLL sooner than later.


Randy Watson2020-08-10 13:14:43
Who is Hans Zimmerman?


James2020-08-10 21:16:50
I'm confident he would care. Not saying he has any control over it.
I don't think Mondo should be making any money from this release. It ought to be canceled and removed from their website.

It's more than just a tempo issue. The tone is entirely off, and parts that were once pleasing to hear, now sound awful to my ears.

Seems Mondo is lacking the proper quality control. Hopefully this is a wake up call for them. If enough people avoid buying this album or return it, they'll get the message. I like to see capitalism work properly.

Magnus Rex reply Replies: 11 || 2020-05-31 06:30:38
Comparing the track times listed here, it seems (at first glance) that many of the tracks are edited down from the complete cues as heard on the bootleg. Could the listed track times be simply incorrect, or have edits been made to make the score fit onto four sides? I guess we can find out when the record ships in July.

Additionally, for those without a record player it sucks that a CD release was not possible for La-La Land. Whatever the reasons are for that, it's a bizarre situation that one independent label can release the same material on vinyl but another cannot on CD. Quite perplexing...


Mr Tweedy2020-06-01 09:12:19
Maybe the different time lengths is due to tracks slightly overlapping each other (as in many HZ soundtrack releases)?


Magnus Rex2020-06-02 05:30:44
It could be possible, but there would be too many seconds of overlap between some of these tracks for that to be a possibility in this specific case. I really hope they haven't cut down the tracks to fit on vinyl, otherwise the bootleg will trump it in terms of content.


Per2020-06-02 09:58:33
In sound quality (regardless of what certain peope might say about how great LPs sound; it's an analog format) the bootleg already trumps it I guess...


AnimalCMan2020-07-25 05:40:07
I just received this and can confirm that all the tracks play slightly sped up, you can see how much by comparing the length of Mission: Impossible Theme and Injection which are identical to the original score and both shorter. Iíve informed Mondo about this, but have no idea if or how theyíll handle it. Pretty disappointing as this is one of my favorite Zimmer scores.


Magnus Rex2020-07-25 07:26:43
@AnimalCMan - are they just played faster or is the pitch altered? Or both? If you hear anything from Mondo, I am sure there are others besides me that would like to hear why this was done. Please keep us informed.


AnimalCMan2020-07-25 08:48:35
@Magnus Rex - From what I could deduce comparing runtimes or a few tracks, there seems to be a speed up of about 7% and this also seems to naturally raise the pitch slightly. Whether or not this is easily noticeable to listeners who arenít familiar with the score is debatable, but I personally found transitions in certain tracks to feel off or jarring and especially faster tempo tracks to feel too fast. Iím still not sure how all this could have slipped by Mondo, but Iíll post an update when I hear from them.


Magnus Rex2020-07-26 05:52:27
@AnimalCMan - hmm, that is disconcerting. I have yet to play the album but judging by the track times (which I commented on in May), the producuers may have tried to squeeze more music onto a side by time-compressing it a little. Ideally, you want about 18 minutes per side of a 12" for optimum fidelity (the sound gets worse the nearer to the center the needle drifts) and they are already pushing that if my math is correct. Still, I am just theorizing; it would be interesting to know if Mondo have anything to say about it. Thank you for reaching out to them.


AnimalCMan2020-07-28 21:50:49
Well, Iíve gotten a response from Mondo and this situation is quite interesting. Having talked to their creative director, it sounds like there was no manipulation on their part. They were provided the original session recordings and transferred that exactly as it had been received.

I donít know how the process works of creating a master plate for records and if something could have gone wrong there, but according to what I was told it sounds as if these original recordings are faster, as strange as that sounds. I have no idea why theyíd be faster than the music in the film and on the original soundtrack, but there it is.

Thankfully, it sounded like some follow-up research would be performed on their part, but I donít know what this means in the long run. If anybody else has listened to this, feel free to provide feedback here or directly to Mondo as speaking up when something is wrong is always valuable.


Magnus Rex2020-07-29 04:21:25
Thanks for that, Animal. A very curious situation. I haven't opened my LPs yet and if they are sped up, I have no real interest in playing them. I might drop Mondo a line and see what else they have to say.


James2020-07-31 02:58:54
I sent Mondo an e-mail as well. Its definitely sped up.


James2020-08-01 23:08:06
Mondo only offered to send me a return label and a refund. No info yet on if they plan to fix it. :-/

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2020-08-01 22:28:58
Mine arrived today and is definitely sped up.

Evan reply Replies: 5 || 2020-07-14 18:07:28
Has anyone actually heard the vinyl yet? Hoping someone eventually rips it.


Gibber2020-07-15 01:27:35
Its on itunes


Gibber2020-07-15 01:29:53
Part of the album is on apple music for the first time


rockhound2020-07-15 09:37:22
I just found the normal score album on itunes. In which store is the expanded album or part of it?


badbu 2020-07-15 23:16:22
on itunes is just the normal one


Magnus Rex2020-07-25 03:56:37
@Evan - I got it today and will be ripping it. Interested to hear how it sounds.

Hybrid Soldier reply Replies: 12 || 2020-05-26 23:30:46
Cool release but... Vinyl only ! :/


Per2020-05-27 00:00:21
So useless really, yeah... :(


AlitaFan2020-05-27 00:46:56
Why only expanded?

The product page says:
"Mondo Music, in conjunction with Hollywood Records, are proud to present the premiere vinyl pressing of Hans Zimmerís complete score to MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 2."

So, it's the complete score... isn't it?


HunterTech2020-05-27 02:17:32
Thanks to the way certain cues have to correspond to their album titles instead, it's hard to tell currently if this actually has everything from the film. Doesn't help that certain album suites are most certainly not here, and there's likely alt mixes that could've been included. We'll just have to see.

I get the feeling the reason this is LP only for now is due to Disney (who own Hollywood Records) being allowed to fully oversee this specific release. Any digital and CD re-releases are probably in legal lingo with Paramount, hence why the OST isn't available for streaming currently.


Jasper2020-05-27 10:56:44
Time to buy a record player guys!

Honestly couldn't be more happy about this.


Jerry2020-05-28 07:23:02
Any chance of a CD or Digital release?


Hybrid Soldier2020-05-28 07:42:33
No.


Randy Watson2020-05-28 09:26:06
@Jerry

At the Film Score Monthly message board, MV said that La La Land has been trying to release this one for years but got shot down by the studio. So sadly, a CD release won't happen for now


Nicolas, Webmaster2020-05-28 09:48:36
Next time, we can expect a wax cylinder release... :(


Per2020-05-28 09:59:02
.. and people wonder why there's "bootlegs" out there...


Ds2020-05-28 22:01:59
Why would a studio allow a vinyl release but no CD or digital release? That's utter nonsense. Almost like they're refusing to make money.


Scorefan2020-05-29 15:45:05
LLL made MI 1 Complete. So they are trying to make MI 2 Complete. That could move Varese to make MI 3 Complete. But studio (Disney) don't want it.


Kalman2020-06-06 11:11:04
Nostalgia has its place but when it turns into stupidity it gets annoying. Vinyl only release, c'mon!... I was so happy when CDs replaced vinyls and now we should be glad that that dated and impractical technology comes back? It's a NO for me!

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2020-05-30 13:30:40
Vinyl only...How dumb can you get

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Ro reply Replies: 1 || 2020-05-27 06:28:14
If I saw that cover art without the title text, the MI franchise would have been about the last thing that'd cross my mind. >_<


SPECTER2020-05-29 20:18:14
Lol, youíre right! I though that was Rambo III climbing the cliffs for a moment.

badbu reply Replies: 0 || 2020-05-27 10:18:52
yes yes yes!!! the best MI Score :) can't wait!

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