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Movie credits:<br><br>Original score by Hans Zimmer & Lorne Balfe<br><br>Music Supervisor: Allison Wood<br>Music Production Services: Steven Kofsky<br>Music Production Coordinator: Queenie Li<br>Score Produced by Lorne Balfe<br>Additional Music by Boris Salchow, Peter Adams, Max Aruj & Steffen Thum<br>Electric Cello: Peter Gregson<br>Electric Violin: Eos Counsell<br>Guitar: Michael Bitton<br>Technical Music Assistants: Michael Bitton, Alfie Godfry & Mike Ladouceur<br>Technical Score Engineer: Chuck Choi<br>Digital Instrument Design: Mark Wherry<br>Digital Instrument Preparation: Taurees Habib & Raul Vega<br>Studio Manager for Remote Control Productions: Shalini Singh<br>Assistant to Hans Zimmer: Cynthia ParkI'm a "CD only" guy. Digital has no attracting power to me, neither has vinyl. I know that music is what matters, still, for  a complete enjoyment I need my CD.I much prefer the cd ... although I also use the digitalVery excited about this one. Although for me personally I think every score should just get a complete release every time especially with digital music being where it is. CDs and vinyls are amazing, but personally I'd go for all digital and get a complete release every time. Anyone agree or disagree thoughts?If the score is as good as "Themyscira" then it will be my favorite HZ score in over a decade.
Come back To GENEVA, we will  be waiting For you like 2 years ago..WHAT a beautiful concert.Please come back...Disney I believe was only offloading three or four of their upcoming releases, only to Disney+ if Iím not mistaken. They are still keeping certain films slated for theatrical only as of now, but more than likely they might end up doing the same to keep up with Warner Bros. <br><br>I wonder if this might push other studios into selling to streaming, much like how MGM was trying to sell NTTD.At least, isn't Disney :pThe lineup includes Tom and Jerry, Dune, Godzilla Vs. Kong, Matrix 4, The Suicide Squad, In The Heights, Mortal Kombat, and more.So every WB theatrical film slated for 2021 will be going to HBO Max simultaneously with theatrical.<br><br>Wow.....
If the score is as good as the "Themyscira" track, I would be sooo happy.Talking recent, not old releases (the original release of Tenet dosen't have a CD release)Tenet and Interstellar expanded both got physical releases, didnít they?The most recent scores by Watertower, dosen't have a physical release, like The Witches or Scoob!<br><br>Most probably is going to be a digital only release.WaterTower music will most definitely release a physical disc. willing to bet there will be a deluxe version as well, a la MoS BvS and Aquaman. could be wrong though. the only reason it says this is a digital download is because thatís the single Themyscira.
CD or download only?I would love it if it is really 5 minutes per track. I love tracks that are at least 4 minutes long. <br><br>But more likely, the last main action tracks would crack 10 mins long.85 minutes for normal album is more than enough for me. I'm not really into long tracks or super-extended suites. If it puts on album it's great, but not necessary for me. And I don't mention dluxe or expanded albums by the way, that's another cases.So 85 minutes for 17 tracks is an average of 5 minutes per track.... seems a little long, so maybe weíll get a few long form suites??Agree. 2020 is rough for us.
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Lorne Balfe
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His Dark Materials (TV Series - Season 2) (The Musical Anthology)
Label: Silva Screen Records
Length: 31'18
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  1. The Subtle Knife (4:53)
  2. Play The Serpent (2:59)
  3. Dark Materials - Between The Worlds (1:34)
  4. A Spectre's Playground (2:29)
  5. A New Cardinal Rises (3:58)
  6. The Witch Queen Of Lake Lubana (3:31)
  7. Children Of The Prophecy (3:00)
  8. The City In The Sky (5:01)
  9. The Shaman (3:53)
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MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 9 || 2020-11-23 16:36:54
Henry Jackman is now Black Widow's composer, apparently in his instagram, posted a photo


NotSoAnonymous2020-11-23 16:48:36
Henry doesn't have an official Instagram. It looks like you are referring to the account "henry0262020" which appears to be a fake account, to the best of my knowledge.


Hybrid Soldier2020-11-23 16:52:51
Yeah 100% fake... And there was HJ rumor on Black Widow sometimes last year, so if you do the math...


Anonymous2020-11-23 21:42:56
damn it would be kinda awesome and hilarious if Lorne Balfe got Lorne Balfeíd LOL


Graham2020-11-25 01:16:35
Why is Lorne Balfe not nominated for a Grammy for Ad Astra ?


AndreasM2020-11-25 11:16:39
The poster shows Lorne Balfe as the composer.

But then it also did have Desplat!


MusoPT2020-11-26 00:36:59
Jackman is not replacing Balfe!
Balfe is the most busiest composer at the moment so he isnít going to get replaced last minute!!!!!


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-26 18:08:55
...wouldn't being really busy be an argument *for* him possibly being replaced? When you're signed on to 10 movies and release schedules are being constantly pushed around because nobody has a clue when theaters are going to open again, you shouldn't be surprised if eventually you might run into some conflicts.


Andy2020-11-27 18:26:26
Wait!
So has Balfe been replaced due to having other projects?
I thought it had been completed?


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-28 00:32:18
No no, it's just a fake rumor. I was just responding to that MusoPT guy who made it sound like it's totally inconceivable that Balfe could ever be replaced.

MrHarris reply Replies: 1 || 2020-11-21 16:52:19
I understand the comments about the orchestra sounding like samples by some of the comments?

If you follow his Twitter you see the BBC orchestra recording the soundtrack.Season two is cool and Balfeís music is bigger that season 1.Bit choirs also.

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Edmund Meinerts2020-11-21 17:01:22
That recording footage makes it all the more baffling to me why the end product sounds the way it does.

Adam reply Replies: 0 || 2020-11-17 14:59:05
Really excellent soundtrack this season.
We only got the first episode last night and the incidental score is much dark fantasy.
Well done.

Dirk reply Replies: 3 || 2020-11-17 00:50:40
Slightly disappointed by the Balfster. The themes he had for the first season were brilliant and truly ingenious.

I do wonder why this season one can't make out anything from the cacophony. I think the Balfe has mistaken a wall of sound for greatness. Balfe is known to have finesse, this latest season is a cacophony of sound. Balfe's mixing is a huge problem now.

If this was recorded by the BBC Orchestra, I would ask Balfe to reimburse me.

Balfe is a nice guy but I do not EVER understand his choices in mixing his scores to sound like samples......ho hey.


rockhound2020-11-17 11:43:58
The music on this albun is good, but i also think the Anthology for Season 1 is much better. And i also have a problem with the sound. For me, many parts sound also like samples than a live orchestra. That problem had already the double cd for Season 1, but at least the Anthology for Season 1 sounded like real orchestral music. Anyway, im still looking forward to the Season 2 album.


Malcom 2020-11-17 12:09:51
I think I preferred the music from the first Anthology but then since watching season 2 I prefer itís soundtrack.

Itís a much darker story than one.

Music really reflects this well and dark.The City in the Sky and The Shamen are my favorite tracks.


Mr Tweedy2020-11-17 13:43:04
Remember these are only "theme suites" and not the actual score as heard in the series. I'm pretty sure the themes from season 1 (+ Anthology) will come back during this 2nd season's indicental music
Nonetheless, the new themes are weaker than the material from season 1, for sure.

MrBen reply Replies: 0 || 2020-11-17 08:51:46
This seasonís soundtrack is way better than the lat one.larger sounding

A New Cardinal Rises and The Shamen are the best tracks on the album.

MrZimmerFan reply Replies: 1 || 2020-11-12 12:14:51
Jungleland out tomorrow

https://music.apple.com /nz/album/jungleland- original-motion-picture-score/1538478365


Knight2020-11-12 15:13:09
Just as I suspected, it sounds pretty damn great. Never heard this kind of brass-heavy writing from Lorne at all, so refreshing.

mpolonest123 reply Replies: 29 || 2020-11-04 20:20:10
Really looking forward to this. As far as Balfe scores go, ďHis Dark MaterialsĒ was as close to a masterpiece as heís gotten so far.


superultramegaa2020-11-04 21:50:08
True. I actually felt like he had a unique vision for that one. Unfortunately I heard the in-show tracks sucked compared to the anthology ones.


Knight2020-11-05 00:29:48
You heard wrong.


mpolonest123 2020-11-05 01:32:35
@superultramega

I initially felt that way when listening to the stand-alone album (which itself is missing some important cues) but after seeing the show I could definitely hear how Lorne took his wide pallet of themes and musical colours and developed them throughout the season.

And yeah there are a number of cues that definitely veer towards the more stereotypical ďBalfe Action SoundĒ or more general sound design, but there if you are a fan of fantasy scores with variety and a large number of themes itís easily worth checking out.


Macejko2020-11-05 09:14:59
I did enjoy Lorne's HDM a lot too, but I have one major gripe with it: despite strong themes and the kind of epic fantasy writing that gets my heart racing, it sounds really sterile at times. Too clean. As if it were made in a lab.


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-05 18:13:28
Yeah, I sort of agree with Macejko. There are some really cool themes and ideas but, as with many Lorne scores, the production of it makes it sound a bit cheap to me. I know he rarely does, but I think this project really merited getting a live orchestra. Sadly that's a big part of the reason why he's in such high demand - he's inexpensive and fast, and cutting out the recording process helps a ton with that.

It actually bothers me more with this than it does with many of his less interesting scores because of the quality of the material.


Knight2020-11-05 18:52:54
Ah are we back on the tinfoil hat theory that Balfe doesn't use live orchestras cause he has a very processed mix?

Balfe had 2 orchestras for recording HDM season 1 Edmund, there are many recording session video snippets of them.


Mike2020-11-05 20:24:16
Edmund - It shows you are not a professional because Balfe posts the orchestra sessions all the time.Sounds real to me but Iím not a composer

Or maybe itís all made up !!!


superultramegaa2020-11-05 21:55:16
Lmao, back to everyone immediately going for Edmund even though Macejko thought the same thing. Not that I blame either of them, it does sound like samples to me, and I work with them all the time! It's just how Lorne's scores are mixed for some weird reason.


Pilas2020-11-05 22:15:21
If samples sounded as good as Balfeís Dark Materials then there is no need for orchestras!!!!!Also check the credits. The BBC Welsh Symphony orchestra is the orchestra


Macejko2020-11-05 23:28:23
I never said that I thought Lorne didn't use an orchestra . I knew that he did, even though Edmund did made me double-check. Just goes to show how easily can someone believe that HDM was produced using samples only. It really needs a bit more "organic" sound in places, for the lack of a better word.


Brian2020-11-06 00:10:33
How can it be organic when it has synths and electronic cellos for example?Dark Materials is a hybrid score so is a mix of electronic instruments and real instruments.


superultramegaa2020-11-06 00:46:30
Look up Halo 3 ODST or Halo: Reach soundtrack. They organically use electronics, but the orchestra still sounds expressive and realistic. Hell, even Batman Begins or Transformers 2 have beautiful orchestras with the electronic elements.

Not that HDM sounds bad, it's a minor criticism that Balfe's scores sound too clean, and in some ways is a good thing. It's more a question of preference whether that sound bothers you or not.


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-06 12:40:38
Maybe he does use a real orchestra but somewhere in the production process he does something that makes it sound fake, which makes one wonder why he bothers.

"If samples sounded as good as Balfeís Dark Materials then there is no need for orchestras!!!!!"

Words cannot convey just how much I disagree with this statement.


Michael2020-11-06 15:05:01
I think I would rather Steve Lipson and Alan Meyersons experienced opinion than some of this groups thoughts when it comes to mixing.why would Balfe want it to sound bad?His music is great and just sounds like jealousy.



Knight2020-11-06 15:56:09
> why would Balfe want it to sound bad?

Because he doesn't think it sounds bad. The same reason James Newton Howard keeps mixing his scores like cardboard or Holkenborg mixing his own music like grunge brickwalled garbage. Because that's how they want or like it to sound.


Andrew2020-11-06 16:40:14
Dear Knight, having worked with Lorne I know he knows more about music production than you.His attention to detail is impeccable in the mix and production.Your opinion about James and Tom is also greatly wrong.It is a style of production.You may not personally like it but that doesnít mean it is inferior.Please read Steve Lipsonís Sunday blog and you will learn a lot about these composers skills.


MaxK2020-11-06 16:42:48
Everytime Balfe has a new score itís the same rubbish about how it sounds!
It sounds epic to me and great melodies for Dark Materials


Knight2020-11-06 17:03:01
Gee Andrew I never would have fuckin guessed that a composer like Lorne knows more about music production than a layman. I don't give a shit if you think my opinion about James or Tom is wrong, I don't like those mixing styles and I doubt I will ever like them, so me reading a blog about how skilled they are won't matter in the slightest.

P.S. JNH and Lorne are 2 of my favourite composers in the business so don't try jumping on my case like I have seen you do with Edmund and others countless times before.


David2020-11-08 01:30:33
The score just got released and He nailed it again and itís even better than season 1


Powellfan2020-11-08 05:02:29
JNH scores sound like cardboard Knight? What does that mean, mid-heavy?

> Steve Lipsonís Sunday blog

Where can I find that?


Knight2020-11-08 20:25:07
@Powellfan

He mixes the large majority of his scores like papery garbage (Red Sparrow, The Huntsman: Winter's War, Salt, Hunger Games Mockingjay 1&2, 2 especially holy crap that one sounds awful), and a lot of the ones he doesn't he undermixes elements so that they aren't as punchy as they would be if they were mixed normally (Fantastic Beasts 1&2, The Nutcracker). I think the amount of orchestral scores he has actually mixed very well I can count off one hand (The Water Horse, The Tourist). The Water Horse is like my gold standard for any of his scores cause everything about it sounds bloody fantastic.


Michael2020-11-08 23:49:08
Forst episode was amazing and the anthology Is big and great memories


MrMalone2020-11-09 15:59:32
Finally watched episode 1 and the soundtrack was even better than last year.I think today alone Iíve listened to the album 5 times.Bit short in length


Edmund Meinerts2020-11-09 17:40:41
Agree with you Knight especially about Mockingjay 2. That is one of the worst recorded scores I have ever heard, especially in the digital age. It makes what on paper is a fantastic action cue, "Sewer Attack", into a screeching assault on the eardrums that's frankly painful to listen to. It is so so so shrill and treble-heavy. Then at the opposite end of the spectrum you have Crimes of Grindelwald which is so muffled it sounds like it was recorded underwater. And in between is Nutcracker which is a bit underpowered but otherwise sounds gorgeous. Dunno what's up with JNH lately, he's all over the shop with his recordings. Even The Tourist which you exempt I find too treble-heavy in parts.

But Mockingjay 2, gah. That's the absolute pits. Even Balfe's scores sound way better than that one! :p


Knight2020-11-09 18:36:58
Surprising to see someone else share the opinion of JNH's crap mixing. xD I don't think I've seen anyone else ever comment on it even though it seems very obvious to me, but that's personal taste/priorities I guess. It's a damn shame too imo cause he's been recording/mixing his scores like this for almost 3 decades now with only a few actual great mixes.

I really only consider The Tourist to be good because all the orchestral elements are nicely defined even if the merging with the electronics is a tad dry and jarring.


Powellfan2020-11-09 23:18:13
I'll have to actively listen to those and see what I think. Edmund, I just listened to Sewer Attack and I don't think it's that bad. It is... I'd say overly crisp rather than shrill but if you don't listen to it too loud it's ok.

It's funny you mention The Water Horse; there a single, really loud percussion hit on one track that terrifies the shit out of me whenever I forget to expect it. It's astoundingly loud compared to what's going on.


18682020-11-10 02:07:24
A shame that he did not have patience to let the instruments perform. The rest is synth soup. Balfe is unfortunately limited in skill and will play what we tell him to play.

It is not his fault.


Moggyman2020-11-11 07:13:13
Yeah, JNH isn't always the best at sound mixing. He can create some brilliant stuff and other times, it just doesn't sound quite right. I think he does better when he starts fresh on a big budget film instead of sequels. As for Balfe, I think his career is just getting started. I was super impressed by MIF and his score for Ad Astra. If anything, I'm optimistic about his score for Black Widow.


David182020-11-11 11:15:40
I never knew Lorne Balfe could write like this!It is an interesting mixture of John Williams and Hans Zimmer together.

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