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Not as simply as that.... Training is Ramin's arrangement of a Hans theme, and the core of Mr. Charles when the Fischer theme isn't playing is a Hans idea, too, as far as I know. Take the Zimmer out and those moments wouldn't be the same.I think Balfe working with Nolan would have done a great jobBob,The Training is basically Ramin Djawadi and Mr.Charles is BalfeI hope these two team up again. Zimmer's score is the main driving force for some memorable scenes. Just a few<br>Batman Begins-The Training<br>TDK- Joker crash the party, Gordon's speech and ending<br>Inception - Time, Mr.Charles, <br>TKDR - the climb, imagine the fire and orphan<br>Interstellar-Stay, Docking, coward, mountain<br>Dunkirk - well the entire movieJustin Hurwitz I can see. I enjoyed La La Land and First Man. But Both Hurwitz and Göransson are several notches above Lorne Balfe. <br><br>I think 80/100 directors would rather work with Göransson than Balfe.
I really believe that Nolan has made a mistake as a composer.I think Lorne Balfe, David Julyan or Justin Hurwitz would be much better options than Ludwig Goransson.Interesting news. <br><br>Geoff Zanelli is one of those composers who I’ve loved his additional music over his solo efforts, Pirates 5 excluded. I hope he gets a chance to write some great fantasy music for this, regardless if he reuses JNH’s themes or not.I think I am the only one, who would be glad about David Julyan return.<br><br>I really like his music for early Nolan's films, especially Insomnia, and it's what i can call an "atmospheric experience".<br><br>Don't know how his music fits for espionage timetraveling movie, but, for me, i'st would be something interesting to hear.@mpolonest123: those Pemberton scores are indeed pure gold, very cool on album but insanely good in the movie. My favorite is still his King Arthur, that was a beast of a score that stuck with the movie like glue and really enhanced Guy Ritchie's dark, twisted, trippy vision.*3 things
Sure, but there's two things to consider. <br>1). Pirates has such an iconic sound that it'd be really stupid for them to suddenly abandon it at #5. Especially when we hired the guy who has worked on the previous 4. 2). Maleficent, as successful as it was to warrant a sequel, isn't quite as well known in the score department, despite being well received by those who have heard it. 3). Because Zanelli worked on all Pirates, he had enough familiarity with the sounds and motifs that he knew where to go once he led the ship. In Maleficent's case, he's taking over from a previous composer, and is working with a director who likely only knows his work on POTC5. As such, there's no knowing yet if he might be compelled to continue on from JNH, or if it's decided he just does his own thing.<br><br>I'm happy that Geoff at the very least has a safe career at Disney, considering two of their recent live action successes has had him involved. However, considering I hear his recently work hasn't been his best, JNH likely would've benefited from returning to a world that had some of his best material after he wasn't given the opportunity to do so with Glass. As such, it really is a severely missed opportunity, even if newer blood is getting more opportunities.Just listening to this again. It really is a best of both score. What I think is so great, is that you can hear both of the brothers' own voice but they blend so well together!! Really really great score!<br><br>It's a really remarkable score, the swifts in tone between dramatic and jazz is top-notch. It's higher on favorite list from 2019 already, than I thought it would ever be.<br><br>Give me more Gregson-Williams brothers scores!!!!!!I was hoping for JNH, but we'll see what he does. JNH's themes were amazing zo it would be stupod not to use them. But he used the Pirates themes, so I'm feeling actually quite ok about itTrue, but he didn’t really get credit for The Lone Ranger or any of the Pirates films other than #5... those are billed strictly as HZ scores. I would say Christopher Robin likely was a result of the success of his Pirates score, and Timothy Green wasn’t really a Disney tentpole release. Maleficent isn’t a Marvel or Star Wars level tentpole, but it is still a blockbuster film that I think he’ll do an awesome job with.@Mephariel - you’re right. However Interstellar and Inception, musically speaking, are simple scores. They are moving, beautiful, and masterpieces, but still simple. Which is great! <br><br>But if we are wanting Zimmer to return to a type of music, I’d much rather prefer something along the lines of Pirates, The Rock, The Last Samurai, Crimson Tide, etc. Tonally, of course it would be more modern and new, but melodically a return to those forms would be a dream come true.
Geoff has done several other Disney projects besides Pirates 5.  (All Pirates movies since the first, Lone Ranger, Christopher Robin, Odd Life of Timothy Green). And I have to say that I would rather JNH return for the sequel, as that would allow him to expand on his fantastic score for the first film.@George<br><br>To be fair, Interstellar is a genuine masterpiece score and maybe one my favorite score of all time, but I am not sure when Nolan will allow Zimmer to return to that type of scoring. <br><br>Hell, Time is my favorite cue ever, but again, I am not sure if Nolan is interested in that kind of music anymore.  <br><br>I guess we will see with Tenet. And yes, I absolutely think Göransson can be a future star in the making and if anyone is allow write his or her own "Time" cultural moment, it may as well be him.@mephariel @mpolonest123 - glad I’m not the only one who’s more excited for those compared to cold and dark Nolan/Zimmer scores. I’m kinda over those to be honest.And if I’m completely honest, I’m more excited by WW84, Spongebob, Top Gun, and Dark Phoenix than another potential Nolan collab.@mephariel <br>I can definitely see that, especially with King Arthur and Spiderverse. I do think his music adds a lot to the films he scores (Steve Jobs and Man From Uncle being two great examples) where he consistently switches up styles and tones to keep things fresh. Maybe not the strongest theme writer but I do love his approaches.
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Matchstick Men (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 131'19
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  1. Flim Flam (0:15)
  2. Ichi Ni San (3:03)
  3. Prizes (1:30)
  4. Victim Of Fraud (0:53)
  5. Open Window (0:57)
  6. Grocery Store (1:33)
  7. Losing The Pills (1:36)
  8. Shoes Off (0:19)
  9. Shrink (0:51)
  10. I Have A Daughter? (1:20)
  11. Suzi's Topology (0:50)
  12. Meeting Angela (2:27)
  13. Lunch (0:50)
  14. Frechette (0:53)
  15. Moving In (2:00)
  16. Obsessive Compulsive (2:05)
  17. The Club (0:43)
  18. Let Us Greed (1:17)
  19. Nosy Parker (1:35)
  20. Con Artist Teaching (2:05)
  21. Not Bad (4:31)
  22. Realizing (0:43)
  23. Scouting (1:48)
  24. In The Airport (0:55)
  25. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (1:36)
  26. Walk Him To The Plane (1:18)
  27. Airport Con (1:15)
  28. Do I Get A Cut? (1:40)
  29. Parking Escape (0:57)
  30. Angela Arrested Before (1:41)
  31. No More Cigarettes (1:18)
  32. No More Pills (1:29)
  33. Vitamins (1:02)
  34. Visiting Klein (1:45)
  35. Frechette is Shot (4:33)
  36. Heaven (0:45)
  37. Interrogation (1:27)
  38. Dear Roy (2:53)
  39. No Baby (1:53)
  40. Carpeteria (3:19)
  41. I'm Grown Up (1:16)
  42. Happy Ending (2:27)
  43. Waltz Suite (3:05)
  44. Flim Flam (Alternate I) (0:16)
  45. Flim Flam (Alternate II) (0:16)
  46. Ichi Ni San (Alternate I) (1:49)
  47. Ichi Ni San (Alternate II (2:55)
  48. Losing The Pills (Alternate) (1:35)
  49. Shoes Off (Alternate) (0:19)
  50. I Have A Daughter? (Alternate) (1:21)
  51. Meeting Angela (Alternate I) (2:31)
  52. Meeting Angela (Alternate II) (1:37)
  53. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate I) (2:33)
  54. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate II) (2/33)
  55. Moving In (Alternate I) (2:00)
  56. Moving In (Alternate II) (2:03)
  57. Obsessive Compulsive (Alternate) (2:36)
  58. The Club (Alternate I) (0:42)
  59. The Club (Alternate II) (0:44)
  60. Let Us Greed (Alternate I) (1:16)
  61. Let Us Greed (Alternate II) (1:27)
  62. Not Bad (Alternate) (4:31)
  63. Scouting (Alternate) (1:46)
  64. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate I) (1:37)
  65. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate II) (1:40)
  66. Walk Him To The Plane (Alternate) (1:32)
  67. Airport Con (Alternate I) (3:53)
  68. Airport Con (Alternate II) (2:00)
  69. No More Pills (Alternate) (0:52)
  70. Visiting Klein (Alternate I) (1:34)
  71. Visiting Klein (Alternate II) (1:25)
  72. Dear Roy (Alternate) (2:18)
  73. No Baby (Alternate) (1:59)
  74. Carpeteria (Alternate I) (2:32)
  75. Carpeteria (Alternate II) (5:06)
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Dr. Vinny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-21 00:00:00
As an accomplished composer/musician/performer, I feel compelled to enter a comment. I saw “Matchstick Men” shortly after it was released on DVD. 2004, I think. And I write this as an individual whose brain has cataloged a SURPLUS of music over many years.

I remember distinctly watching the "making of matchstick men" where Ridley Scott gave Hans such a hard time about the score. And again, as someone who has such a catalog of music in the brain, I have found myself humming or whistling "THIS" score over and over in the last 4 years. With no likely end in sight. It's catchy. It's contagious. And it's my opinion. I even caved and got some ring tones. (Shocked all my colleagues.) I’m more curious to what the rejected scores sounded like. Maybe he used them for other films. Take that Mr. Scott!

Since, I have been more aware of Mr. Zimmer's works over the last 4 years and now I have a clearer understanding of why some of my favorite films (before and since “Matchstick Men”) are some of my favorite films, i.e. “Mission Impossible II” & “Gladiator”. Answer – “Zimmer scores”. And really, if you take away the score, "Matchstick Men" as a film, is average at its best. The score, is what makes this film. Period!! Maybe that's why Ridley pushed Hans like he did?

It’s no wonder that someone would create a web site of this like. As well, he is now someone I would like to converse and/or collaborate before I go to the other side. John Williams, take a vacation. There’s a new sheriff in town, and his name is Hans!!

Kindly,
Dr. Vinny G.
Rochester, NY
(Home to Hochstein and Eastman) schools of Music that is. &#61514;

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-01 00:00:00
Hi everyone! I've got this question: some days ago I was listening to this score and I realised that the first part of track "Weird Is Good" has a particular style, something I've only heard in Gotan Project's songs: so, Is that an omage by Hans Zimmer to this fantastic (IMHO) group?

thanks

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Ted reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-15 00:00:00
What is the name of the song that was playing when roy sent angela away with frank after the shooting?

BobdH reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
Hmm... the only thing track 8 (Mines) makes me think about is Journey to the Line, from The Thin Red Line. Man, how obvious is it which track was the temp-score?!?

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
I think the reason why Track 8 sounds like Journey to the Line is because it should sound like Journey to the Line --)

axel jespersen reply Replies: 0 || 2005-07-18 00:00:00
track 8 is what made the film what it is.

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