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The clips are on his Facebook page.2/5 stars? Why are people hating on this?Me tooExcited!!!God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)
God’s gun theme reminds me of part of “River Mission” from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat OST. I think Lorne was an additional composer on that score aswell (excellent OST btw)"It's good shit lieutenant" The principle is based on Thomas Newman's Bond.  "Take back what's ours" and "the truth" is Ad astrahonnestly, I do get why people refer to MW2, but to be honest, it's not the same.  With the amount of time I heard that score, I can say that it uses the same drums, and a pattern that is quite similar to the one used in MW2, but it is not a copy/paste.  It's no different to me than Junkie XL re-using the same pattern of drum in all of his recent scores since Mad Max.  When it comes from the same composer, I guess it's normal to have works that parts that similar from a score to another.  Just think of John Murphy who re-use his powerful theme from Sunshine in a lot of his scores (28 weeks later, kick-ass, etc).   <br><br>Actually I'm quite glad he re-used the themes from Mancina as that was, to me at least, a big miss for BB2 even though Rabin and Jablonsky did a great job.  It's like doing a James Bond movie without the Bond theme.  It might be good, but it miss the little something that gel everything together. ;)  I really like what Lorne did on this one.  Even though he re-used the theme, he made them his own, in a similar way he did with MI Fallout, while sometime paying homage to the original ones. ;)  My 2 cents.Not really familiar with either Mancina’s BB score or MW2, but I’m really enjoying this. It’s like an old-school MV score filtered through Lorne’s sound. The main tune (which I’m guessing is Mancina’s) is a lot of fun, particularly when paired with the choir. <br><br>And as for Ad Astra, the villain motif in “Take Back What’s Ours” sounds like it was directly lifted from the space scenes of that score.can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?
can I see the clip? is it on YouTube?I love the score. It is action packed and to the point.<br><br>I saw his orchestra clips as well but I wonder why he actually spends the money and effort for orchestra when the end product sounds (as usually) 100 percent sample library. All the dynamics of real players are gone in the final mix so why bother with orchestra at all...I'm highly disappointed by the score... Lorne went the very easy way and recycled the MW2 score as well as the Mancina theme in almost every track. Like seriously... the only thing u here is MW2, Main Theme and lot of rustle-synth score. 1/10! No effort went in this score and I dont say that often.As for Ad Astra, unfortunately i can't hear anything from Ad Astra aswell :/ It's just MW2 mixed with Mancinas themes for me. And the cues from MW2, they aren't just drums, all the guitars, melodies, vibes, even the choir or the voices are included. The above mentioned cues from MW2 are not complete, there are plenty of them, but these will give you the idea of what we've mentioned. Again, i'm not mad, i'm happy that a wider audience can hear these cues, but then again, on MW2 they sounded better and fresher than on the BB3 score (i mean the quality of the recordings - you can hear the cues and instruments more directly. On the BB3 score it sounds like being in a bathroom hearing to the MW2 score). And as i said earlier, i would like to understand or know what Lorne thought about using all these cues. Time pressure? Unused opportunity for a wider audience? And then again that synth-sound even using a real orchestra :/@ Mr Tweedy:<br><br>MW2 has hundred of cues, which has all the special atmosphere and sound-effects, but try listen to these cues to understand what i and others mean:<br><br>- Guerilla Tactics <br>- Guerilla<br>- Contingency<br>- Breach<br>- Retreat and Reveille<br><br>Funny thing, play the cue "Guerilla Tactics" from MW2 and let Shazam try to find out what track that is. It shows me as "Lorne Balfe - We're Dangerous People" from BB3 :D
I really like this score!<br>Sure he used Mancina's Theme, that's allright cool, I don't hear anything similar to Ad Astra....don't know why somebody compare this score with Ad Astra....<br>That MW2 sounds are very great, he don't copy himself, he just used the Drums, what's definitely be OK!!<br><br>I don't know why people always want to compare scores....Everybody use his own Temp Music sometimes, that's normal!Please could you give me the exact name of the track from MW2 that is used in BB3? I’d like to compare both!I love Lorne´s music and all, but I am genuinely wondering, why they decided to re-use MW2 so much in the scoreas for the drums, yes, i would understand. but the orchestra? you're recording the strings from a real orchestra, so why the downgrade in sound-quality?Because that parts are sampled drums and there are no real?
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Hans ZimmerGeoff ZanelliJim DooleyClay Duncan
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Matchstick Men (Complete Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 131'19
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  1. Flim Flam (0:15)
  2. Ichi Ni San (3:03)
  3. Prizes (1:30)
  4. Victim Of Fraud (0:53)
  5. Open Window (0:57)
  6. Grocery Store (1:33)
  7. Losing The Pills (1:36)
  8. Shoes Off (0:19)
  9. Shrink (0:51)
  10. I Have A Daughter? (1:20)
  11. Suzi's Topology (0:50)
  12. Meeting Angela (2:27)
  13. Lunch (0:50)
  14. Frechette (0:53)
  15. Moving In (2:00)
  16. Obsessive Compulsive (2:05)
  17. The Club (0:43)
  18. Let Us Greed (1:17)
  19. Nosy Parker (1:35)
  20. Con Artist Teaching (2:05)
  21. Not Bad (4:31)
  22. Realizing (0:43)
  23. Scouting (1:48)
  24. In The Airport (0:55)
  25. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (1:36)
  26. Walk Him To The Plane (1:18)
  27. Airport Con (1:15)
  28. Do I Get A Cut? (1:40)
  29. Parking Escape (0:57)
  30. Angela Arrested Before (1:41)
  31. No More Cigarettes (1:18)
  32. No More Pills (1:29)
  33. Vitamins (1:02)
  34. Visiting Klein (1:45)
  35. Frechette is Shot (4:33)
  36. Heaven (0:45)
  37. Interrogation (1:27)
  38. Dear Roy (2:53)
  39. No Baby (1:53)
  40. Carpeteria (3:19)
  41. I'm Grown Up (1:16)
  42. Happy Ending (2:27)
  43. Waltz Suite (3:05)
  44. Flim Flam (Alternate I) (0:16)
  45. Flim Flam (Alternate II) (0:16)
  46. Ichi Ni San (Alternate I) (1:49)
  47. Ichi Ni San (Alternate II (2:55)
  48. Losing The Pills (Alternate) (1:35)
  49. Shoes Off (Alternate) (0:19)
  50. I Have A Daughter? (Alternate) (1:21)
  51. Meeting Angela (Alternate I) (2:31)
  52. Meeting Angela (Alternate II) (1:37)
  53. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate I) (2:33)
  54. Lunch - Frechette (Alternate II) (2/33)
  55. Moving In (Alternate I) (2:00)
  56. Moving In (Alternate II) (2:03)
  57. Obsessive Compulsive (Alternate) (2:36)
  58. The Club (Alternate I) (0:42)
  59. The Club (Alternate II) (0:44)
  60. Let Us Greed (Alternate I) (1:16)
  61. Let Us Greed (Alternate II) (1:27)
  62. Not Bad (Alternate) (4:31)
  63. Scouting (Alternate) (1:46)
  64. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate I) (1:37)
  65. Do You Mind If I Seat There? (Alternate II) (1:40)
  66. Walk Him To The Plane (Alternate) (1:32)
  67. Airport Con (Alternate I) (3:53)
  68. Airport Con (Alternate II) (2:00)
  69. No More Pills (Alternate) (0:52)
  70. Visiting Klein (Alternate I) (1:34)
  71. Visiting Klein (Alternate II) (1:25)
  72. Dear Roy (Alternate) (2:18)
  73. No Baby (Alternate) (1:59)
  74. Carpeteria (Alternate I) (2:32)
  75. Carpeteria (Alternate II) (5:06)
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Dr. Vinny G. reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-21 00:00:00
As an accomplished composer/musician/performer, I feel compelled to enter a comment. I saw “Matchstick Men” shortly after it was released on DVD. 2004, I think. And I write this as an individual whose brain has cataloged a SURPLUS of music over many years.

I remember distinctly watching the "making of matchstick men" where Ridley Scott gave Hans such a hard time about the score. And again, as someone who has such a catalog of music in the brain, I have found myself humming or whistling "THIS" score over and over in the last 4 years. With no likely end in sight. It's catchy. It's contagious. And it's my opinion. I even caved and got some ring tones. (Shocked all my colleagues.) I’m more curious to what the rejected scores sounded like. Maybe he used them for other films. Take that Mr. Scott!

Since, I have been more aware of Mr. Zimmer's works over the last 4 years and now I have a clearer understanding of why some of my favorite films (before and since “Matchstick Men”) are some of my favorite films, i.e. “Mission Impossible II” & “Gladiator”. Answer – “Zimmer scores”. And really, if you take away the score, "Matchstick Men" as a film, is average at its best. The score, is what makes this film. Period!! Maybe that's why Ridley pushed Hans like he did?

It’s no wonder that someone would create a web site of this like. As well, he is now someone I would like to converse and/or collaborate before I go to the other side. John Williams, take a vacation. There’s a new sheriff in town, and his name is Hans!!

Kindly,
Dr. Vinny G.
Rochester, NY
(Home to Hochstein and Eastman) schools of Music that is. &#61514;

Jack reply Replies: 0 || 2007-08-01 00:00:00
Hi everyone! I've got this question: some days ago I was listening to this score and I realised that the first part of track "Weird Is Good" has a particular style, something I've only heard in Gotan Project's songs: so, Is that an omage by Hans Zimmer to this fantastic (IMHO) group?

thanks

bye

Ted reply Replies: 0 || 2006-09-15 00:00:00
What is the name of the song that was playing when roy sent angela away with frank after the shooting?

BobdH reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
Hmm... the only thing track 8 (Mines) makes me think about is Journey to the Line, from The Thin Red Line. Man, how obvious is it which track was the temp-score?!?

ABC reply Replies: 0 || 2005-08-27 00:00:00
I think the reason why Track 8 sounds like Journey to the Line is because it should sound like Journey to the Line --)

axel jespersen reply Replies: 0 || 2005-07-18 00:00:00
track 8 is what made the film what it is.

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