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Because they didn't work direcly in this score, but their material from the previous one was reused.Does anyone know why some of the composer names are in brackets? Thanks!thanks4:05 of "STEALTH" some of the best soulful action music I've heard from a Zimmer score. I wonder who wrote that particular section. This the type of stuff I would play trying to rush a pregnant woman to the hospitalIn case he's visiting this site, I wanna say 'Thank You' to Ashton Gleckman who does the 'Behind the Score' episodes on YouTube. I loved the 1-hour episode for the Transformers scores and I actually learned a lot. Very educational. I found the video by accident and now I plan on watching his other videos as well.<br><br>Job well done, my friend.
@Hybrid <br>You don't add anymore Trevor Morris things ?Probably for chronological purposes<br>even though the movie uses a shortened version of Romanian Wind at that timei saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene.<br>===============================<br><br><br>I agree. <br><br>And I think at the end of the day the movie itself is not the type of movie that could win people over with its score. No matter how successful and popular it is and no matter how good the score is. I Am Number 4 was part of the YA craze that took over Hollywood a few years back (we all know how people feel about those movies), and even the most successful YA movies (like Twilight) are not exactly known for their scores.<br><br>People - even film critics who are supposed to talk about all aspects of the movie - were too busy talking about half-naked characters and Kristen Stewart's acting..... and completely ignoring the good work done by Alexandre Desplat.<br><br>It was pretty much the same with I Am Number Four...<br><br>It's not that Trevor created a "bad" score, it's simply a case of a nice, little score that went under the radar. No one bothered to talk about it..... Just like his score for Torque, which as far as I'm concerned is one of his best scores.I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.<br>===========================<br><br><br>I totally get what you're saying. I also get kinda frustrated when a "big" track overshadows an entire score. The best recent examples are IMO the Transformers scores. I don't blame folks for gravitating towards the epic sound and the power anthems, but A LOT of subtle, equally great tracks end up getting completely ignored. And just like you, they're usually my favorite tracks. <br><br>But why most people don't think like us?<br><br>The reason I think is because those "big tracks" are presented - most of the time - during the most memorable moments in those movies. They immediately get people's attention. They're stuck in their mind along with those iconic images. And I think by nature, people are more attracted to the big and "in your face". For most casual listeners the more subtle tracks work in the context of the movie and they absolutely do notice them while watching the actual film. But unlike you and I they don't feel the need to listen to them separately. They're too busy paying attention to the "big track". That goes even for some score fans.<br><br>While tracks like the Star War theme, the Indy theme, the Transformers theme, the Gladiator theme, the Godfather theme, the Armageddon theme, the Pirates theme, the Lord of the Rings theme are so big, melodic abd easily digestable that folks simply can't resist them. And when there are vocals involved as well (like Gladiator) it's even better, because people treat it as a full-blown song. An emotional song that they can listen to over and over again.<br><br>The subtle tracks simply can't win against that. Sadly....<br><br>By the way, speaking of The Island, My Name is Lincoln (as much as I like it) is not my favorite track of the score. The more subtle opening track (The Island Awaits You) and especially the Lima One Alpha theme are my personal favorite tracks. Of course, they're nowhere near My Name is Lincoln, in terms of popularity.<br>Why is Romanian Wind not sequenced after Case Re-Opened? Is not the former 7M48 and the latter 7M47?
Yeah that is true, can’t argue there lol<br><br>And is it me or does “Calypso Must Be Released” sound like Black Hawk Down?To be fair there is a lot of King Arthur in At World's End too. Just the general feeling you get from the action tracks in both scores is virtually identical. Hell, one of the main themes from King Arthur even appears when Bootstrap Bill remembers that Will is his son.@MrTweedy<br>That’s totally fine, everyone has their own favorite HZ scores, which is awesome!<br><br>It’s funny though, I feel like DMC is far more schizophrenic than AWE. Now don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love DMC. It’s the score that got me into Hans Zimmer. But still, I feel like a major part of that score is note-for-note reprises of cues/themes from COTBP. Not to mention the temp tracking of King Arthur.<br><br>AWE always felt far more original to me, especially considering that the entire tone of the music shifts from the “rock’n’roll” sound of the first two to a more traditional score (at least by Hans Zimmer standards lol)@MrTweedy<br><br>Just curious, what scores do you considered to be Zimmer's best?The Pinnacle of Hans' career?<br>Although I really like this score, I don't agree. But hey, I know it's just a matter of opinion, okay? ;)<br><br>Of course it shows Hans strengths in almost every area (action, drama, romance, comedy...) but for me it's too much of a medley of previous works, without much personality.<br>It feels a bit like a palette with too many colors. From the action sequences borrowed from Drop Zone, to the Morricone inspirations for Jack's Sequences, to Gladiator's duduk that ended up there with no real reason, to a beautiful Love Theme that brings another new shape to the sonic identity... it's like the score sometimes goes schizophrenic.<br><br>Though each individual idea is really enjoyable to listen to, I think Hans has made scores that are much more cohesive and enjoyable as a whole!
i also think it is an underrated score. especially the action music has a couple of nice touches. i saw the movie a couple of weeks ago again and the showdown in the school is very well shot and intense and trevors music is effective there. you can hear track 8 and 19 in that scene. a really good action scene. the emotional music is nothing ground breaking, but a lovely listen.Y'know, it's funny. The big names that always get the most attention in film music are often not my favorite tracks of the scores they represent. Now We Are Free, Arrival to Earth, Like A Dog Chasing Cars, Star Wars Main Theme, Indiana Jones Main Theme, Infinite White, One Day, Circle of Life, The Fellowship. Though they are the most well known, they're usually nowhere near the peak of quality of their scores. <br><br><br>I noticed this the most in Hans Zimmer's concerts (not World of Hans Zimmer mind you). The parts he played from The Dark Knight Trilogy in particular usually had the least substance. Just the bombastic tracks. The only choice I agreed with was Time from Inception. There was no Am I Not Merciful, A Watchful Guardian, Sunrise Over Pride Rock, none of that. <br><br><br>Even with Star Wars, the main theme and the Force theme are solid pieces of music, but neither come close to the beauty of Princess Leia's theme, or the wondrous Yoda theme. <br><br><br>Same with Lord of the Rings. The Fellowship Reunited, Very Old Friends, Gollum, and The Breaking of the Fellowship are much more substantial pieces than The Fellowship Theme alone in my opinion. <br><br><br>Can't say anything about My Name is Lincoln because I haven't finished The Island score yet, but yeah. I just find it odd how people gravitate to the triumphant or inspirational music first, rather than the more subtle, unique pieces.Thanks guys, will check out these cues.Hmm, aside from "The Guardian Suite' I don't think I've heard any other tracks from this score. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one....lol.<br><br>Speaking of.........I would most definitely put "The Guardian Suite' right up there next to "Now We Are Free" and "My Name is Lincoln". It's *that* good and powerful. Shame that the movie is not as popular as The Island and Gladiator. If it was, that suite would've been one of the most popular film score tracks with millions of views on YouTube. It certainly deserves it.Very underrated score. As already pointed out by a couple of reviewers, it's a nice, little throwback to MV/RC's Golden Years and Trevor's own scores from 1997 to 2002. Give it a listen if you can. It's not long and it's worth it.
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Hans ZimmerHeitor PereiraMichael BrookJim Dooley
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Black Hawk Down (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 186'20
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  1. Hunger (6:36)
  2. Garrison Briefing (4:19)
  3. Calm Before The Storm (5:04)
  4. Chant (5:44)
  5. Hostages - Pila Is Dead (5:01)
  6. Black Hawk Down (3:26)
  7. Moving Out (3:24)
  8. After The Crash (2:57)
  9. In School (1:28)
  10. Crash Site (5:48)
  11. Of The Earth (2:19)
  12. Roadblock (2:42)
  13. Super 64 Going Down (5:19)
  14. Cover Me (3:35)
  15. Ashes To Ashes (4:43)
  16. Leave No Man Behind (2:18)
  17. Overview (1:16)
  18. Draw Off Fire (1:23)
  19. Get Us Out Of Here (3:05)
  20. Rescue (8:02)
  21. Hold Your Fire (3:37)
  22. Garrison Requests UN Troops (2:37)
  23. Firimbi Interrogation (1:34)
  24. Pinned Down (4:35)
  25. Holy War (1:12)
  26. It's Nothing (2:03)
  27. Tribal War (3:08)
  28. Evac - Run To The Stadium (9:48)
  29. It's About The Men Next To You (3:10)
  30. Still (4:48)
  31. Hunger (Alternate) (6:36)
  32. Bakara (Suite) (3:14)
  33. Marketplace (Suite) (1:43)
  34. Chant (Suite) (2:34)
  35. Market (Suite) (2:46)
  36. Pila Is Dead (Alternate I) (2:22)
  37. Pila Is Dead (Alternate II) (2:22)
  38. Black Hawk Down (Suite) (1:39)
  39. Ascent (Suite) (5:36)
  40. Vale Of Plenty (Suite) (2:28)
  41. Synchrotone (Suite) (2:40)
  42. Tribal War (Album Version) (2:40)
  43. Monitors (Suite) (2:37)
  44. Super 64 Going Down (Demo) (3:44)
  45. Leave No Man Behind (Alternate) (2:22)
  46. Still (Reprise) (2:12)
  47. Mogadishu Blues (Suite) (2:54)
  48. Get Us Out Of Here (Alternate) (3:08)
  49. The Next Turn (Suite) (3:14)
  50. Leave No Man Behind (Suite) (6:19)
  51. Run To The Stadium (Alternate) (2:22)
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Guzz reply Replies: 5 || 2018-03-10 14:38:06
I've read an article about BHD and here a quote which amused me:

"The score being very experimental, Hans Zimmer was afraid there would not be much music suitable for a listening experience on compact disc."

HAHAHA, damn how time has changed. What are your fears now Mr. Zimmer, after you've killed the listening experience totally with your scores lately, like Dunkirk and all those Drone scores. In comparisson to your work now, BHD is a melodical and listening experience paradise!


Mike (OTM)2018-03-10 22:30:15
Well. You're not wrong.

I was noticing the same thing watching Black Hawk Down recently. Compared to his recent output, it's practically beautiful. And it has...ya know...THEMES. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-10 23:48:39
If you'd take Hans to his words, no music he ever wrote would have been released.


Olive2018-03-11 00:07:55
Hans is an advertiser. He is able to say anything to draw attention to his work! He has not acquired all the popularity he has for nothing.


Ian2018-03-11 02:05:01
Olive - I'm not sure I agree; I think Hans loves the attention, but he also seems to be more concerned with telling a good story than actually being, you know, right. A prime example of this is his "The Dark Knight movies were twelve years of our lives." when by every confirmable account he worked on them over a period of seven years.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-11 10:11:38
Hans gets mixed up with dates...

He's not like us, watching his career year by year... I remember in an interview he even had to ask his assistant Cynthia about what year The Lion King was done... He worked 8 years on TDK Trilogy... When he started to tell that story, it had been 12 years that he started... But he mixed up, and kept telling 12 years WORKING on it... lol

BHD Fan reply Replies: 6 || 2018-02-27 05:55:37
How does the "sessions" leak compare to this above tracklisting?

1. BHD.1M1/2/3/4 (5:58)
2. BHD.1M1/2/3/4Rmx (6:46)
3. BHD.1M1AL Rmx (2:15)
4. BHD.2M12 (4:30)
5. BHD.2M15/16B (5:21)
6. BHD.2M16A (1:46)
7. BHD.3M18 (11:22)
8. BHD.3M18w vox (6:41)
9. BHD.3M19Insert (2:17)
10. BHD.3M20 (5:47)
11. BHD.3M20Rmx (2:27)
12. BHD.3M20w Vox (5:47)
13. BHD.3M21 (3:18)
14. BHD.4M22pt1 2 (3:22)
15. BHD.4M23 (4:36)
16. BHD.4M24 (2:16)
17. BHD.4M24 New (1:54)
18. BHD.4M25 26A B (11:06)
19. BHD.4M25OvrLy (2:38)
20. BHD.5M27A (2:29)
21. BHD.5M27B (1:09)
22. BHD.5M28 (2:21)
23. BHD.5M28Rmx (2:17)
24. BHD.5M29A (1:24)
25. BHD.5M29B (3:10)
26. BHD.5M29BRedo (3:09)
27. BHD.5M29C New (1:14)
28. BHD.5M30/33 (7:02)
29. BHD.6M34 (3:36)
30. BHD.6M34ANew (1:23)
31. BHD.6M35 (2:48)
32. BHD.6M35BNew (1:59)
33. BHD.6M36 (2:03)
34. BHD.6M37 (3:38)
35. BHD.6M37alt2 (1:17)
36. BHD.7M38 (1:12)
37. BHD.7M39 (1:40)
38. BHD.7M40 (3:08)
39. BHD.7M40w xtras (3:08)
40. BHD.7M41/42 (9:49)
41. BHD.7M42 (4:22)
42. BHD.8M43 (3:12)

Most of the track times do not seem to add up and the sessions appear to be even in the wrong sequence. Anyone got any ideas? Are these cue numbers fake or something?


Mr Tweedy2018-02-27 10:25:45
You got the original version with sessions track names. The expanded score featured here is a re-organized version aimed for a better listening experience.
Nonetheless, both versions are still incomplete !


BHD Fan2018-02-28 00:00:41
So the one by Hybrid moves some tracks around?


Mr Tweedy2018-03-01 23:50:47
Well, I've been heavily involved in remastering unreleased scores with Hybrid Soldier for about 10 years.

The version of BHD showed on this page is my work. I edited some tracks together (such as 2m15_16B with 2m16A that were originally meant to be mixed together, while they were presented on the sessions in an almost unlistenable, non-chronological way), and I worked several days in order to get the best audio mix possible.

As we got many different sources for this score (sessions, various promos, soundtrack album...), I made a version that is as complete as possible. A few tracks are still missing from every version available.

So, no, Hybrid didn't move tracks around, that's me who tried to provide the best, most complete presentation of this score. And this is Hybrid who decided to showcase this version here.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-01 23:53:27
^

What he said... Even though, sometimes, yeah, I do move tracks around ! lol


Marcorea12018-03-02 02:27:41
I too made my own edit. Not complete but just an alternative listen using the tracks I thought was best. ‘The Mogadishu commemorative’


BHD Fan2018-03-03 04:19:59
Mr Tweedy thanks for replying. Can you give a rough breakdown of what tracks from the "sessions" correspond to your version seen here? You are right in that some of the sessions tracks are un-listenable and while I don't have the promos CDs and extra stuff, it'd be interesting to see how you came up with the version seen here.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 11 || 2018-02-27 13:53:30
This was in many ways the start of a downfall for HZ. A truly collaborative process, and in many ways a revolutionary score.

Yet, the silly sound design stuff started here which now makes him such an inadequate composer. No one wants a Hans score anymore (well except his usual collaborators). This will phase out soon and Zimmer will be another Faltermeyer and Moroder whereas he could have been a Williams.


Bibi2018-02-27 14:19:11
I pray to see "downfalls" like this one then !


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-27 15:02:36
Not me. (Although I'm not a big fan of this score either...)


Mike (OTM)2018-02-27 19:30:02
Any way we could make accounts on this site? I've had the same problem. I used to be pretty much the only "Mike" here, so I went by "Mike." Now I need a way to differentiate myself from some, uh....zealous fanboy Mikes. ;)


Olive 2018-02-28 00:01:08
For one second I believed in tjis comment! Lol This was made for a Balfe fanboy for sure.


Olive2018-02-28 00:02:30
I vote for personal accounts too!


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 00:04:30
It will happen with the new version of the site...



Please don't ask me when that's happening... Right Antas ? lol


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-28 09:13:38
Well that's good to hear! (Although I hope you keep your green text, Hybrid. :D )


isildur2018-02-28 11:23:42
Looks like all the trolls (or maybe just one, posting with different names) decided it's time to shift from Facebook to here. At least try to be a bit creative, all your posts are basically of same template.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 12:31:21
Bah... At least it's creating traffic on the site, defeating his purpose... lol


Medigo2018-02-28 22:44:33
I'd like it if I could at least keep my Edmunds straight


Ian2018-03-03 03:35:19
Honestly, I see a lot of merit to "Edmund"'s argument. Thematic content aside, Black Hawk Down has this really weird - shitty, frankly - blend of synthetic and orchestral content that just doesn't work IMO. Ironically, a score like Inferno does a better job at that.

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PABLO reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-10 00:00:00
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Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

mikee bruno reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-20 00:00:00
very good , I also had to compose in a similar style and this track as been a good inspiration.
ciao

Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-04 00:00:00
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Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-02 00:00:00
Please email me to ######
if anyone has any of the Black Hawk Down promo CD'S.Thanks !

sergio cardoso reply Replies: 0 || 2005-10-03 00:00:00
Hi, i dont speak english very well, but , i am braziliam and i woud like the emaill from Heitor Pereira, i want talk to him, about any musics by composed to him. Tanks!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
IN ENGLISH PLEASE !!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
Cette version du score de BHD est assez décevante, d'une part parce que la plupart des morceaux sont de l'underscore, en bref, rien de vraiment nouveau et intéressant.
Beaucoup de morceaux sont des alternés de ce qui est présenté dans le film, on n'y entend pas le thème... :/
Un grand nombre de pistes sont présentes sur le site de jeff rona (www.jeffrona.com), le reste est repiqué du dvd ou juste des démos de Geoff Zanelli pour un projet similaire à BHD... à recommander pour les gros fans, sinon, passez votre chemin, rien ici n'est sincèrement convaincant ou justifiant la création d'un pareil bootleg... (fan made ?)

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