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Its Imagine the Fire insertThe Japanese version can be ordered here: http: //www.cdjapan.co.jp/ product/WPCR-18185<br><br>The "Swan Song" is also included on the CD. So it has 3 additional tracks.Theres quite a bit of good unreleased stuff from this score. Stuff like the cue that plays during Alita's first game of motorball with the other kids, the bar fight music, the unused string rendition of Alita's theme and the end titles arrangement of Motorball/Swan Song.Does anyone have the "Motorball" cue from end credits? It sounds like the beginning of the "Motorball" track but it's different than on the OST. It plays directly after the Swan Song track...<br><br>Why is it left off the CD?Huh... Do people at RCP ask H-Z.com to use the official, less accurate credits in some cases? I seem to recall some credit fiasco on POTC4.
So what happened to the credits here? It used to be a mixture of solo Atli cues with Atli/Dave Fleming, and now all three guys are credited for every track even though Tillman is only listed as a musician? Is this like with Armageddon, where the "official" credits aren't as accurate as the older ones were? :pMost of the album is comprised of suites, with one consistent tempo per track. <br><br>The material that was scored to picture was scored using the risset rhythm technique, which gave a lot of those tracks their "infinitely getting faster" feeling in the film, so the tempo is always climbing in the film versions. The suites have a stable tempo (except for a couple normal tempo changes, which are different)Not really any... "Nothing Out There" contains the sad piano theme from Begins and Dark Knight, but otherwise the themes that get reprised are pretty much Hans stuff. <br><br>Speaking of credits, any chance the complete score page could be updated with what's out there and official?Could somebody tell me in what cues JNH's themes appear on album?Yeah, that cue was either a last minute rewrite or one of the music editors did it.... As for where you can find it...Google is your friend. But it's not going to be available anywhere officially.
I think it will be in between NOT ORDINARY CITIZEN / THE SLOW KNIFE and IMAGINE THE FIRE, Does anybody know where can I find it?<br>I noticed that this score doesn't has the soundtrack of the part where Blake is taking the people to the bridge and he is discusing with the other police officer before he blows the bridgeThat's right, I forgot about that... And I totally agree about the score vs. the album. I had no use for this score on album at first, but now that I've watched the movie a few times, I can really hear the logic behind the score and I "get it." <br><br>I still don't get the music as heard on album, though. Are the longer pieces some early suites Hans wrote? Or did he specifically make these arrangements for the album? Do you know the answer to that one, Hybrid?I wanna say I heard the full Cat Suite somewhere... I can't remember if it was legit, but it was 15:39 and it was indeed quite repetitive. It was basically the Selina Kyle Suite from the Z+ app, along with demos of several of the Catwoman-related cues in the final score. If you've listened through the score, you've basically heard the unreleased stuff.@Mike<br>Zimmer has said in interviews that he “mapped out” the film with one long piece of music to establish the changing tempo of the story, and apparently the script was written to capture the rhythmic feel of the film. So from the very beginning the story was always split up between the three.<br><br>I think a big part of the initial disappointment with the score was the album presentation, which gives off the impression that the music is just some sound design that Zimmer threw together (this is how I personally felt when I first gave it a listen). In actuality it’s a technically impressive score, I really can’t think of any other film score that is so synchronized with a film’s tempo and flows as one long piece of music. Apparently it was a nightmare for Hans, especially when the smallest edits to the film would ruin the flow.<br><br>Doing the 59-minute album was a pretty big disservice to the whole purpose of the music. If you remove one piece the whole thing falls apart, which is part of the reason the album feels so disjointed.
Anyone here listened "The Predator" FYC score? <br>Any chance to compare tracklist and running time with official release?These versions suites haven't been officially released, but maybe you can find them somewhere around the Internet unofficially.<br><br>As for the Cat Suite, the most important parts of it can be found in "Selina Kyle" (it's a shortened version of it actually) and "Mind if I cut in?" from the OST. I remember that Hybrid once said that the 15mins Cat Suite was too repetitive, that's why a 5min only version was released, so maybe you are just fine with those two.<br>Where can I listen to the Cat Suite? Or is it literally: Selina Kyle Theme? <br>The Mole P1 (0-1:57)<br>Regimental Brothers P1 (0-1:19)<br>The Mole P2 (1:57-3:44)<br>Regimental Brothers P3 (2:44 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier<br>Supermarine P1 (0-2:47)<br>The Mole P3 (3:45 onward)<br>We Need Our Army Back (again) <br>Supermarine P2 (*5:33)<br>Impulse<br>The Tide<br>Home <br>The Oil <br>Variation 15<br>End Credits <br><br>As everyone said already, the album is made up of suites that combine several cues and several "sounds" used in various places. For example, the is a sound in The Mole (At 2:05) that sounds like a fuse being ignited. This sound is actually right after The Tide in the film.<br>The only tracks that are almost identical to the film are: The Tide, Variation 15 and End Credits, the rest is different. <br><br>So if you were to order the tracks as first heard in the film it would be: <br>The Mole <br>Regimental Brothers <br>We Need Our Army Back<br>Shivering Soldier <br>Supermarine <br>Impluse <br>The Tide <br>Home <br>The Oil<br>Variation 15<br>End credits<br><br>As much as I enjoyed listening to this release, I wish they didn't butcher the score the way they did. I like the suites but there are so many great cues in this film that weren't released. If only they released an isolated score track on Blu-ray. Listening to film extracts is just not enough.I noticed that as well — the ticking goes all through the movie, except for the boat scenes, and only stops when they get on the train. <br><br>I wonder...could the film have originally been shot so that the beach, sea, and air sequences were there own arcs, and the longer album tracks were written for that? And then Nolan went in and turned the movie into the frenetic, constantly cutting-back-and-forth final product? <br><br>While the album is fine, I personally don't understand why we couldn't have just gotten the film cues. They might have had to stitch several together for each track, but it could have worked.
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Hans ZimmerHeitor PereiraMichael BrookJim Dooley
ComposerAdditional MusicAdditional MusicAdditional Music
Black Hawk Down (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 186'20
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  1. Hunger (6:36)
  2. Garrison Briefing (4:19)
  3. Calm Before The Storm (5:04)
  4. Chant (5:44)
  5. Hostages - Pila Is Dead (5:01)
  6. Black Hawk Down (3:26)
  7. Moving Out (3:24)
  8. After The Crash (2:57)
  9. In School (1:28)
  10. Crash Site (5:48)
  11. Of The Earth (2:19)
  12. Roadblock (2:42)
  13. Super 64 Going Down (5:19)
  14. Cover Me (3:35)
  15. Ashes To Ashes (4:43)
  16. Leave No Man Behind (2:18)
  17. Overview (1:16)
  18. Draw Off Fire (1:23)
  19. Get Us Out Of Here (3:05)
  20. Rescue (8:02)
  21. Hold Your Fire (3:37)
  22. Garrison Requests UN Troops (2:37)
  23. Firimbi Interrogation (1:34)
  24. Pinned Down (4:35)
  25. Holy War (1:12)
  26. It's Nothing (2:03)
  27. Tribal War (3:08)
  28. Evac - Run To The Stadium (9:48)
  29. It's About The Men Next To You (3:10)
  30. Still (4:48)
  31. Hunger (Alternate) (6:36)
  32. Bakara (Suite) (3:14)
  33. Marketplace (Suite) (1:43)
  34. Chant (Suite) (2:34)
  35. Market (Suite) (2:46)
  36. Pila Is Dead (Alternate I) (2:22)
  37. Pila Is Dead (Alternate II) (2:22)
  38. Black Hawk Down (Suite) (1:39)
  39. Ascent (Suite) (5:36)
  40. Vale Of Plenty (Suite) (2:28)
  41. Synchrotone (Suite) (2:40)
  42. Tribal War (Album Version) (2:40)
  43. Monitors (Suite) (2:37)
  44. Super 64 Going Down (Demo) (3:44)
  45. Leave No Man Behind (Alternate) (2:22)
  46. Still (Reprise) (2:12)
  47. Mogadishu Blues (Suite) (2:54)
  48. Get Us Out Of Here (Alternate) (3:08)
  49. The Next Turn (Suite) (3:14)
  50. Leave No Man Behind (Suite) (6:19)
  51. Run To The Stadium (Alternate) (2:22)
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alihaidar paradox reply Replies: 0 || 2018-08-10 09:31:24
the feeling that comes to me when I hear your music is indescribable. You interfere me in another world.. I m waiting your new music.. All the best

Guzz reply Replies: 5 || 2018-03-10 14:38:06
I've read an article about BHD and here a quote which amused me:

"The score being very experimental, Hans Zimmer was afraid there would not be much music suitable for a listening experience on compact disc."

HAHAHA, damn how time has changed. What are your fears now Mr. Zimmer, after you've killed the listening experience totally with your scores lately, like Dunkirk and all those Drone scores. In comparisson to your work now, BHD is a melodical and listening experience paradise!


Mike (OTM)2018-03-10 22:30:15
Well. You're not wrong.

I was noticing the same thing watching Black Hawk Down recently. Compared to his recent output, it's practically beautiful. And it has...ya know...THEMES. lol.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-10 23:48:39
If you'd take Hans to his words, no music he ever wrote would have been released.


Olive2018-03-11 00:07:55
Hans is an advertiser. He is able to say anything to draw attention to his work! He has not acquired all the popularity he has for nothing.


Ian2018-03-11 02:05:01
Olive - I'm not sure I agree; I think Hans loves the attention, but he also seems to be more concerned with telling a good story than actually being, you know, right. A prime example of this is his "The Dark Knight movies were twelve years of our lives." when by every confirmable account he worked on them over a period of seven years.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-11 10:11:38
Hans gets mixed up with dates...

He's not like us, watching his career year by year... I remember in an interview he even had to ask his assistant Cynthia about what year The Lion King was done... He worked 8 years on TDK Trilogy... When he started to tell that story, it had been 12 years that he started... But he mixed up, and kept telling 12 years WORKING on it... lol

BHD Fan reply Replies: 6 || 2018-02-27 05:55:37
How does the "sessions" leak compare to this above tracklisting?

1. BHD.1M1/2/3/4 (5:58)
2. BHD.1M1/2/3/4Rmx (6:46)
3. BHD.1M1AL Rmx (2:15)
4. BHD.2M12 (4:30)
5. BHD.2M15/16B (5:21)
6. BHD.2M16A (1:46)
7. BHD.3M18 (11:22)
8. BHD.3M18w vox (6:41)
9. BHD.3M19Insert (2:17)
10. BHD.3M20 (5:47)
11. BHD.3M20Rmx (2:27)
12. BHD.3M20w Vox (5:47)
13. BHD.3M21 (3:18)
14. BHD.4M22pt1 2 (3:22)
15. BHD.4M23 (4:36)
16. BHD.4M24 (2:16)
17. BHD.4M24 New (1:54)
18. BHD.4M25 26A B (11:06)
19. BHD.4M25OvrLy (2:38)
20. BHD.5M27A (2:29)
21. BHD.5M27B (1:09)
22. BHD.5M28 (2:21)
23. BHD.5M28Rmx (2:17)
24. BHD.5M29A (1:24)
25. BHD.5M29B (3:10)
26. BHD.5M29BRedo (3:09)
27. BHD.5M29C New (1:14)
28. BHD.5M30/33 (7:02)
29. BHD.6M34 (3:36)
30. BHD.6M34ANew (1:23)
31. BHD.6M35 (2:48)
32. BHD.6M35BNew (1:59)
33. BHD.6M36 (2:03)
34. BHD.6M37 (3:38)
35. BHD.6M37alt2 (1:17)
36. BHD.7M38 (1:12)
37. BHD.7M39 (1:40)
38. BHD.7M40 (3:08)
39. BHD.7M40w xtras (3:08)
40. BHD.7M41/42 (9:49)
41. BHD.7M42 (4:22)
42. BHD.8M43 (3:12)

Most of the track times do not seem to add up and the sessions appear to be even in the wrong sequence. Anyone got any ideas? Are these cue numbers fake or something?


Mr Tweedy2018-02-27 10:25:45
You got the original version with sessions track names. The expanded score featured here is a re-organized version aimed for a better listening experience.
Nonetheless, both versions are still incomplete !


BHD Fan2018-02-28 00:00:41
So the one by Hybrid moves some tracks around?


Mr Tweedy2018-03-01 23:50:47
Well, I've been heavily involved in remastering unreleased scores with Hybrid Soldier for about 10 years.

The version of BHD showed on this page is my work. I edited some tracks together (such as 2m15_16B with 2m16A that were originally meant to be mixed together, while they were presented on the sessions in an almost unlistenable, non-chronological way), and I worked several days in order to get the best audio mix possible.

As we got many different sources for this score (sessions, various promos, soundtrack album...), I made a version that is as complete as possible. A few tracks are still missing from every version available.

So, no, Hybrid didn't move tracks around, that's me who tried to provide the best, most complete presentation of this score. And this is Hybrid who decided to showcase this version here.


Hybrid Soldier2018-03-01 23:53:27
^

What he said... Even though, sometimes, yeah, I do move tracks around ! lol


Marcorea12018-03-02 02:27:41
I too made my own edit. Not complete but just an alternative listen using the tracks I thought was best. ‘The Mogadishu commemorative’


BHD Fan2018-03-03 04:19:59
Mr Tweedy thanks for replying. Can you give a rough breakdown of what tracks from the "sessions" correspond to your version seen here? You are right in that some of the sessions tracks are un-listenable and while I don't have the promos CDs and extra stuff, it'd be interesting to see how you came up with the version seen here.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 11 || 2018-02-27 13:53:30
This was in many ways the start of a downfall for HZ. A truly collaborative process, and in many ways a revolutionary score.

Yet, the silly sound design stuff started here which now makes him such an inadequate composer. No one wants a Hans score anymore (well except his usual collaborators). This will phase out soon and Zimmer will be another Faltermeyer and Moroder whereas he could have been a Williams.


Bibi2018-02-27 14:19:11
I pray to see "downfalls" like this one then !


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-27 15:02:36
Not me. (Although I'm not a big fan of this score either...)


Mike (OTM)2018-02-27 19:30:02
Any way we could make accounts on this site? I've had the same problem. I used to be pretty much the only "Mike" here, so I went by "Mike." Now I need a way to differentiate myself from some, uh....zealous fanboy Mikes. ;)


Olive 2018-02-28 00:01:08
For one second I believed in tjis comment! Lol This was made for a Balfe fanboy for sure.


Olive2018-02-28 00:02:30
I vote for personal accounts too!


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 00:04:30
It will happen with the new version of the site...



Please don't ask me when that's happening... Right Antas ? lol


Edmund Meinerts2018-02-28 09:13:38
Well that's good to hear! (Although I hope you keep your green text, Hybrid. :D )


isildur2018-02-28 11:23:42
Looks like all the trolls (or maybe just one, posting with different names) decided it's time to shift from Facebook to here. At least try to be a bit creative, all your posts are basically of same template.


Hybrid Soldier2018-02-28 12:31:21
Bah... At least it's creating traffic on the site, defeating his purpose... lol


Medigo2018-02-28 22:44:33
I'd like it if I could at least keep my Edmunds straight


Ian2018-03-03 03:35:19
Honestly, I see a lot of merit to "Edmund"'s argument. Thematic content aside, Black Hawk Down has this really weird - shitty, frankly - blend of synthetic and orchestral content that just doesn't work IMO. Ironically, a score like Inferno does a better job at that.

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PABLO reply Replies: 0 || 2006-05-10 00:00:00
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Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

Mathis reply Replies: 0 || 2006-02-23 00:00:00
I really like the style of the music (especially track 01) where/how do I find more like it? what is the origin/style of it?

thanks a lot.

Mathis.

mikee bruno reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-20 00:00:00
very good , I also had to compose in a similar style and this track as been a good inspiration.
ciao

Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-04 00:00:00
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Brian reply Replies: 0 || 2006-01-02 00:00:00
Please email me to ######
if anyone has any of the Black Hawk Down promo CD'S.Thanks !

sergio cardoso reply Replies: 0 || 2005-10-03 00:00:00
Hi, i dont speak english very well, but , i am braziliam and i woud like the emaill from Heitor Pereira, i want talk to him, about any musics by composed to him. Tanks!!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
IN ENGLISH PLEASE !!

Anonymous reply Replies: 0 || 2004-11-28 00:00:00
Cette version du score de BHD est assez décevante, d'une part parce que la plupart des morceaux sont de l'underscore, en bref, rien de vraiment nouveau et intéressant.
Beaucoup de morceaux sont des alternés de ce qui est présenté dans le film, on n'y entend pas le thème... :/
Un grand nombre de pistes sont présentes sur le site de jeff rona (www.jeffrona.com), le reste est repiqué du dvd ou juste des démos de Geoff Zanelli pour un projet similaire à BHD... à recommander pour les gros fans, sinon, passez votre chemin, rien ici n'est sincèrement convaincant ou justifiant la création d'un pareil bootleg... (fan made ?)

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