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Extremely pleased with the release, remastering, and liner booklet notes.  Nice to finally have all of this music.  Sure, some things could have been done differently, like anything else.  I'll be enjoying a thorough listen this weekend, and may watch the film again, as it's been years.The Thin Red Line >> The New World....Good for you?I don't like Hans Zimmer, James Horner is my favorite.Uhh, I don't electronic music ain't gonna work on Alita Battle Angel.
Jasha just released a neat little piano album!<br>Go check it out: https://itunes.apple .com/no/album/time-lapse-ep/1452867752My only real gripes left with the score is the somewhat uninspired choral writing (and the fact that the choir sounds like samples in a lot of moments) and the reused percussion samples from every JXL action score ever since Mad Max.After repeated listens of the score and seeing the film 3 times, I'd say now that the score is MUCH better than I initially gave it credit for.<br>Alita's theme (the 4 notes first heard at 1:53 in A Discovery) is used many times throughout the score in many instrumental varieties and variations, and used to great effect in emotional scenes<br>(I Don't Even Know My Own Name, What's Your Dream?, In Time You'll Remember, With Me, I'd Give You My Heart, What Did You Do), In the Clouds especially)<br>And do yourself a favor and get I See Church from somewhere, it's the 2nd best action track of the score after Motorball.<br>--------------------<br>In short, I would now give it a 4.5 / 5 from my previous 3 / 5Hybrid, what's the story with Finale vs. Safe Now? On this page Finale is listed as Jackman and Zimmer. On the OST page, it's Jackman, Zimmer, & Jasha Klebe. The two versions are different too. Finale has a longer intro and a big outro that makes the Time thing even more obvious. So are they two different tracks with different credits, or is Safe Now just Finale clipped short?Oh man, that's a tough question...I haven't listened to Curse of the Black Pearl in a while.... He's credited on almost every track for themes used... "Fog Bound" is the big Klaus Badelt cue from that movie (the real, 5-minute one in the movie is pretty much all Klaus I believe). <br><br>But Hans appears almost everywhere in POTC 1. Sometimes it's arrangements of his themes by the other guys, sometimes it's parts of the tunes that he wrote put directly in like he wrote them... The following scenes are pretty much directly Hans, if I remember right (this is the list I'm referencing ó but as you can see, Zimmer's name is almost everywhere hans-zimmer . com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1128): <br><br>3. Captain Jack Sparrow (Hans wrote the big theme here, as well as the Jack Sparrow stuff at the end)<br>8. Breaking the Chains (more Jack Sparrow theme...) <br>17. Boarding the Dauntless (Jack Sparrow theme...)<br>24. Moonlight Serenade (Zimmer said he wrote this scene like Cinderella walking into a Metallica concert)<br> <br>Aaaaand a lot of the final fighting music is lifted directly out of the suite Zimmer wrote, so it's 90% him. But once again, his themes as arranged by other people appear everywhere. Hybrid can answer way more about all this than I can.<br>
Oh wow! Thatís all really interesting. So how much of the OST is really HAnS Zimmer then???Hans was composing The Last Samurai while the first POTC was being made. He had promised Tom Cruise and Edward Zwick (might have even signed a contract) that he would only work on The Last Samurai and no other movies at that time. So while Hans agreed to write the POTC themes for Gore Verbinski, he wasn't allowed to be credited due to his obligations to the Last Samurai. So he wrote a few themes and then handed the score off to Klaus Badelt, who got the "name" credit on the score. But the whole score is really Klaus, Geoff Zanelli, Nick Glennie Smith, Ramin Djawadi, and a few others doing arrangements of the theme that Hans wrote (and Hans writing for a couple scenes incognito, like when Elizabeth first sees the skeleton pirates). Then Klaus did do the dark "Fog Bound/Underwater March" tune, as mentioned.Canít insult me! I am genuinely curious. Whatís this about The Last Samurai???I'm not saying this to insult David, but it's funny to me that even now, 16 years later, after so many clarifications from HZ and others, people still get confused because of the way POTC 1 got credited. All because Hans had to work on The Last Samurai (which is one of my favorite scores of his, so I guess it was worth the confusion).Saw the film last sunday and loved it. Also loved what Tom Holkenborg did hear. It did not felt nor 300. RoE nor Mad MAx. It's something else and loved it how it worked in context.
he is working on the new Terminator movie?! :OCredits for Dua Lipa's single "Swan Song" for the movie:<br>Written by Dua Lipa, Justin Tranter, Kennedi Lykken, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson & Tom Holkenborg<br>Produced by Mattman & RobinMy definition of a Complete score is somewhat different. My goal is to find and mix everything you hear in the movie. Some things you find, others you don't. That's always an adventure in itself.<br><br>The source cues are not hard to find, sometimes it can be tricky to find the right performance/conductor.<br><br>In the case of TTRL, it's mostly the Beam cues that are difficult to find. Francesco Lupica wrote several pieces of Beam cues specifically for the movie, 5 of them which were used. There's also the 'Concerto for Beam' written by Powell, and there's the 'Sit back & Relax' album that was used. So to me, that's a pretty substantial (and important!) amount of music  that made it into the cut, which hardly anyone ever talks about.<br><br>Anyway, maybe a future project will tackle most of these issues.So he's scoring that and the new terminator? Damn dude's getting as busy as Henry JackmanUnless they're composed by Zimmer or someone else from RCP, I wouldn't expect source cues to appear here. And there's like two tracks with Beam in the title listed, so what else would have that name?
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Hannibal (Expanded Score)
Label: Unofficial Release
Length: 134'57
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  1. Verger & Barney Prologue (3:11)
    Hans Zimmer
  2. Main Titles (1:45)
    Hans Zimmer
  3. Starling's Arrest Plan - Evelda Appears (4:54)
    Hans Zimmer
  4. Evelda's Execution (2:00)
    Hans Zimmer
  5. Watching The News (0:59)
    Hans Zimmer
  6. Back On The Case - To Verger's (6:24)
    Hans Zimmer
  7. Face Peeling (1:45)
    Klaus Badelt (Johann Strauss)
  8. Can Look At My Face (3:21)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  9. Not A Bad Guy - Starling & Lecter Tape (3:29)
    Hans Zimmer, Nick Glennie-Smith
  10. Hello Dr. Fell (4:00)
    Hans Zimmer
  11. The Letter Opened (1:39)
    Hans Zimmer
  12. Ta Ta H. (0:28)
    Geoff Zanelli
  13. Hand Cream (1:51)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  14. Fell Is Lecter (4:46)
    Hans Zimmer
  15. Advance In Life (7:13)
    Hans Zimmer, Martin Tillman, Bruce Fowler
  16. Buying Silver Bracelet (1:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  17. Gnocco's Night Out (3:39)
    Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson, Martin Tillman
  18. Pigs (1:39)
    Klaus Badelt (Johann Strauss)
  19. Vide Cor Meum (Libretto From Dante's La Vita Nuova) (2:11)
    Patrick Cassidy
  20. Allegra Meets Dr. Fell (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  21. Starling Sees Lecter - Pazzi Lies - Lecture (9:16)
    Hans Zimmer
  22. Lecter Questions Pazzi (4:29)
    Hans Zimmer
  23. Mateo Knifed - Lecter Waves (2:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli, Martin Tillman
  24. Starling Jogs (0:47)
    Hans Zimmer
  25. Lecter At Krendler's Home (1:02)
    Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson, Martin Tillman
  26. Vide Cor Meum (For Lecter Shopping) (2:10)
    Patrick Cassidy
  27. Deep Roller (1:17)
    Hans Zimmer, Martin Tillman
  28. Getting Instructions (1:12)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  29. Driving Instructions (2:22)
    Hans Zimmer, James Dooley
  30. Lecter Snatched (1:54)
    Hans Zimmer, Steve Jablonsky
  31. Starling To Verger's (1:34)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  32. Gourmet Valse Tartare (9:08)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt (Johann Strauss)
  33. Krendler Goes Down (0:42)
    Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli
  34. The Awakening (2:20)
    Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt
  35. Sweatbreads (8:44)
    Mel Wesson, Martin Tillman, Marc Streitenfeld
  36. Look In The Mirror (2:00)
    Hans Zimmer
  37. Handcuffed To Lecter (6:55)
    Hans Zimmer
  38. Dear Clarice Suite (2:56)
    Hans Zimmer
  39. F2K Suite (3:12)
    Hans Zimmer
  40. Arrow Choir Suite (4:38)
    Hans Zimmer
  41. Ligeti Suite (2:45)
    Hans Zimmer
  42. Vide Cor Meum Suite (3:57)
    Patrick Cassidy
  43. Getting Instructions (Alternate) (1:12)
    Hans Zimmer
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Lord Eddard Stark reply Replies: 1 || 2016-06-15 15:43:45
Is "Arrow Choir Suite" "Virtue" from the album?


paul2017-12-22 20:19:27
Bonjour, comment avoir cet album (SFX, complete score; alternatif) d'Hannibal ? Il y a 4 tracks qui circulent sur internet mais le reste.. ? Merci de vos rťponses les Bro.

Bayhem reply Replies: 3 || 2017-12-20 22:31:49
Hans seriously needs to score another sophisticated horror movie like this one. When was the last time he did one...? I'm currently listening to both "Hannibal" and "The Ring" and my God, I'm loving the hell out of these scores. So atmospheric, so creepy, so eerie, so memorable.

Hans is cleatly very picky these days (rightfully so), but I certainly hope for another Hannibal-style score from him.



Ian2017-12-20 22:40:21
Honestly, with the direction in which Hans has been going since Inception, and particularly with BvS and Inferno, I'd expect a new Zimmer horror score to end up a heavily electronic mess with tons of ghostwriting by Mazzaro and Kawczynski.


Bayhem2017-12-20 22:59:28
Oh man, I hope not....

It's also very important who is the director. If it's Ridley Scott or Gore Verbinski, then I have no doubt that Hans will deliver.

I'm not the biggest fan of the so-called sound design scores and I know that recently Hans has been receiving some criticism for that, but I still believe that if he works with someone like Scott we would hear much more than an 'electronic mess' and sound design.

But then again, the hottest horror composer right now is Hans's pal Benjamin Wallfisch and the way things are going he's gonna be the one scoring all horror projects that knock on MV/RC's door. And honestly, I'm cool with that. I LOVE Wallfisch' score for "A Cure for Wellness". He did a great job.


james (now james callahan)2017-12-21 02:20:16
Well, some very good genres fell into his hands over the past few years as Rango, The Lone Ranger, The Little Prince... The last two are good scores, though, but Lone Ranger is still a Sherlock and all the PoTC quilt and Little Prince music is a bit lazy.

And in both films Zimmer got the chance to risk because Little Prince is an international film and Lone Range is from Verbinsky and Bruckeheimer (say whatever you want from the man but he produced At World's End, King Arthur, Black Hawk Dawn, Crimson Tide, Days of Thunder...)

Marc reply Replies: 2 || 2015-10-07 13:57:46
I'm very curious about two tracks in the previous fake 2CD expanded edition: Victim (2:05)and Adagio (8:59). Do anyone know if they where from other movies, promos or what?
Thank you!


Marc2015-10-12 12:33:02
No info? I'm really interested in knowing the composers of these two (specially "Adagio" if it's from other score with will deserve a buy).


Lord Eddard Stark 2015-11-19 14:48:54
Victim And Adagio are Frederich Talgorn

Bondo reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-30 02:16:54
What does F2K stand for? And anyone else notice it sounds a LOT like Jablonsky's horror music? :D

El Baradei reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-09 17:34:30
It seems Steven Price listened too often to the track Fish Market before writing the score to Gravity.

Edmund Meinerts reply Replies: 0 || 2015-10-04 11:50:33
I just noticed that there's an almost 9-minute cue on this credited to Marc Streitenfeld, among others. That seems weird - shouldn't this have been way back in the day when he was still Hans' chauffeur? :p

Scorefan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-09-19 02:50:30
So that site is out. For this score?

Smitty reply Replies: 7 || 2015-09-10 08:43:53
Literally had this dropped in my lap and I can vouch for its authenticity. I don't waste my time on fakes. The only down side is that it's not totally complete. I tacked on about 30 minutes of extra material from various bootlegs and the official album making it almost 3 hours.

Something tells me it'll be around soon so maybe you'll hear it for yourself.


Anon2015-09-10 21:33:06
Nice


Anonymous2015-09-17 02:02:32
and so its here. look around. its out :D


Nyct2015-09-17 03:17:02
Are you Sure??? Because, frankly, it hasn't actually been posted anywhere.


David2015-09-17 03:56:46
Frankly, it has. I'm listening to it right now!!


Frank2015-09-17 09:40:39
Yep, can't believe this is really happening but we finally got the recording session for this. I think now the only thing left that we're long awaiting for is the 4-hour The Thin Red Line recording session maybe?


Edmund Meinerts2015-09-17 09:52:58
I think TRL is out too! At least, I have a version which is 5hrs 22min which I've never dared to venture into. With good reason: it's a huge friggin' mess, with no proper track titles, probably zillions of different versions of the same cue, and it would generally take hours and hours to sort through and weed out what's unnecessary (and this on a score I don't even like that much outside of a few pieces).

I think Hybrid even acknowledged its existence once and said he didn't have the time to sort it out either and make a page for it. Totally understandable, in this case... :O


JJ2015-09-17 13:20:38
Yes, TRL is been publicly around for some time, the only drawback is that the quality is not great (128kbps)

madmartigan reply Replies: 0 || 2015-08-27 12:03:20
Hi Hybrid,
Do you know which is the music/track from this Expanded Score played at the end of the movie, when Lecter is in the plane with the boy child ?

Wendigo reply Replies: 5 || 2015-08-19 03:54:07
Any guess as to when a leak will occur?


Russel2015-08-19 06:14:16
Ah yes, of course. December 24th, 2024


Elaine2015-08-19 13:25:29
According to my source, the leak will be on February 14th, in the year two thousand and sixteen. I received this information from an alien. As I told my husband, it was in the Paramus Holiday Inn, I was having a drink at the bar, alone, and this alien approached me. He started talking to me. He bought me a drink, and then I think he must have used some kind of a ray or a mind control device because he forced me to follow him to his room and that's where he told me about the leak.


Wendigo2015-08-19 17:18:27
Despite the sarcasm, you both sound stupider than my question.


greg2015-08-19 17:23:51
please dont joke about aliens we all know they are gonna kick our asses in the near future


Joshua2015-08-19 19:23:43
@Elaine sweet Ghostbusters 2 burn! lol

Mr. Charles reply Replies: 8 || 2012-08-21 02:38:42
Fake?


Hybrid Soldier2012-08-21 08:36:55
All fakes...


Uga2015-08-16 03:39:29
Interesting tracklist


Anonymous2015-08-16 09:31:11
Not fake.


Nyct2015-08-17 01:40:42
Then...prove it.


Madmartigan2015-08-17 23:21:00
Why is it called "Expanded" ? Is it not complete ? I listened to this expanded and I compared it to the movie.... The only track missing is the last one with the boy in the plane.


Nyct2015-08-17 23:24:52
Where? How?


Anonymous2015-08-18 00:03:03
@Nyct

its real. hybrid soldier would not have added the credits to fake cues -_-

plus i know some people who have it


Nyct2015-08-18 00:53:32
I'm just being pushy about it. I've been searching for this gem for nearly a decade now and that fact that a tracklist has been posted gave me hope.

Lasse reply Replies: 0 || 2010-04-09 00:00:00
there is a new Hannibal bootleg soundtrack whit soundtracks like :

-Lecter hunt
-Bring him home
-Investegation
-Eating the Nurse
-An Der Schonen
-The Abducting
-Come After You
-Aftermath
-Adjust To The Darkenss

ridlazz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-04-12 00:00:00
what si the las 7 soundtracks on the album ???

ridlazz reply Replies: 0 || 2008-03-09 00:00:00
the lasy 7 soundtracks.

why havent they a name????

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